Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

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YO

HIPLOP

SUP BOYO

'YA KNOW, JUST CHILLING.

YOU SCUM BRAH?

From day one, jordan appears to be town. appears to be a borderline RVS wagon that was jumped on heavily.

LOLGOAT

@reck (or anyone else, I suppose) do you know how to read mastin? I remember him vaguely (he posts big scary walls as town) but not well enough to meta or anything, but dude is sticking out like a sore thumb in this game. Continuously posting seemingly trying to be like "LOOK HOW CRAZY OF A TOWNIE I AM".

hmm, Im not sure I understand the MrZephewr vote, to me hed be the most protown player yesterday? I'd be much more inclined to vote BnB

I do agree we should (during this shift at least, because this one appears to be entirely random) vote for people in our own shift.

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so like, do we have our own RVS in here? this setup is trippy lol

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well, actually I think i disagree with myself. There is 16 pages of information on the other people, 0 on us.

I propose we all say who is most likely to be scum in the last pool, and why. Then we as a shift can look at eachother more clearly. This will ideally give town the most information, I think? Very similar idea to why no lynches are usually bad

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YO

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anyone have previous experience with jordan? honestly he seems weird, almost like a troll? Unfortunately trolls can sometimes be town ~_~

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EBWOP: idk why that quote is there.

the weird thing about logical's post is like hes blatantly sheeping a wagon he has no idea about.

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because of reasons i dont think you can be telling the truth zoraster. basically conf scum?

VOTE: zoraster

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hiplop seems to be trying to poke and prod but this setup makes that more difficult than usual. He said a couple of things that kind of bothered me but they aren't necessarily indicative of scum. i plan on paying more attention to him but I have no plans for direct interaction while we're in opposite shifts; mostly because I can't think of an optimal way to do it.

Lol im having a hard time in this game because of the whole shift thing, basically every time I come on has to be a catch up post. trying to find a way to like incorporate my play style within it, but it apparently isnt working too well

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Gah this is ridiculous. Why isn't zoraster dead?

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BirdAndBeast need to be town.

hm? why?

I dont really have a read on the guy. literally i have like a 50/50 mindset like everything he does could go either way.

if serene is actually a lyncher, that is quite possibly the best thing ever.

Sven zepher and Jesters are almost definitely town.

the goat rubs me off as weird. but he kinda townslipped too so :s

AGar is probably my biggest scum read that isn't zoraster, seems to be trying to distract the town in a harmful way

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the possibility of a crossbus here is pretty likely i think. This doesn't really seem like townvtown or scumvtown.

dont we gain more if we kill bnb and then serene? If bnb flips and serene isn't gone, that essentially confscums them, doesnt it? While on the other hand if serene flips town or lyncher, it really doesnt indicate anything about BnB.

For this reason i think BnB makes more sense today as a lynch VOTE: bnb2

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Eh, thats a good point broseidon. I had tunnel vision on killing EITHER serene or BnB. They are just seriously annoying this game and I wanted to kill them, i guess

Hiplop how in the world does it confscum Serene if B&B flips town? Why are people considering the possibility that Serene is actually a lyncher? Where is the rest of night shift?

Yeah...that was pretty bad.
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Bro, I honestly dont see the connection between zoraster and venmar? They only interact once in a vote post near the end of the wagon. I mean, it could be a late-wagon bus, but I dont see what links them more than well anyone else who was lynching zoraster. Venmar does seem kind of scummy, but that might be my natural tendancy to link cynicism with scummy-bastards. He has been lurking while also putting forth virtually nothing

Also, scum just pulled a nasty trick. We're lynching in B2 and B6.

That soon? hmm, i guess we are losing our only conftown at b.7 so this actually isnt a bad plan.

VOTE: venmar. Trust bro at this point, i've iso'd the guy a few times and his insistence on BnB is pretty strong, and any reactions to someone disliking him are pretty trash. I'm interested to see him try and defend him self here.

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man venmar is definitely not scum. this play would not come from a scum player.

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actually feel like an idiot for sheeping just because IC

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oh what im getting lynched

lemme check why

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so because of gut and I realized sheeping BRO was a bad idea? I read vemnar as cynical and attributed that to scum, upon further inspectiuon he was clearly just pissed off town. I'm pretty sure hes town, so I unvoted.

I mean, if it means anything if you look at any of my towngames since ive been back, people mislynch me. I just have been really off. Like all of my town games recently have resulted in me getting mislynched really early. I'm just an easy target for scum.

Like theres not much I can say other than sheeping mastin isn't a good idea? And that I'll promise to be more productive b.c tbh, I iso'd myself and oh god its bad. I am capable of not being useless, I'll do a proper re-read tonight and get my act together.

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THE WORST PART OF THIS IS THAT MASTINS READ IS LITERALLY JUST OMGUS TOO.

what about my vote was bad, BnB?

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Essentially at first his case seemed strong to me, and it was kind of a knee jerk reaction to follow the claim IC with a seemingly good case. Venmar had kind of annoyed me in the past which contributed to it.

I changed my mind because I slept on it in all honesty. I caught up and reading venmars interactions with bro just screamed town. The guy looked like a pissed off townie who kind of felt the end was nigh. Thats why I unvoted.

FWIW my vote would be on BnB right now if it had to be on anyone. Might as well VOTE: bnb again, sigh.

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guys sorry i vanished for a while there, had a really rough weekend. Should be good now though

Im still convinced of my bnb scum read, he is strawmanning like a motherfucker and that just leaves a horribly sour taste in my mouth.

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can venmar not do anything but vote?

If so, Venmar find a way to communicate with us through votes? Like use multiple votes to send some sort of code or signal to us? Its really not helpful at this point to have a completely quiet player

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might want to consult a medical professional asap

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sorry dryfit i dont understand of what you meant by too tryhard?2

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reck and i are good people i promise

i always have something of value to say in the other shift... I'm currently starring in a production right now so ill be busy for 2/3 more days :\

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I'm pretty okay with dry-fit's death. He has rubbed me as scummy basically all game and has always kind of been a secondary scum read of mine.

VOTE: dryfit5

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This actually makes sense. I always just figured it was random but venmar brings up incredible points.

Out of them I'm most happy with goats death, I'm currently on lunch break so when I get home I'll double check and vote him if I still think that way

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Fwiw I do t think ika is the scum. I'd be inclined at this point to say goat > 14.5>ika

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EBWOP was meant to say:

FWIW I DON'T think ika is scum. I'd be inclined at this point to say goat > 14.5>ika

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reck and i are good people i promise

i always have something of value to say in the other shift... I'm currently starring in a production right now so ill be busy for 2/3 more days :\

He must be. You're not even interested in a survival vote on him.

Vote: Hiplop

i have reasons to say that.

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Well, i just caught up! Quite a change from last time.

I'm honestly at a loss as to how to defend myself? I don't think the fact that we're neighbours really says much. I have basically thought reck was town from the start. I tried to bring up game related things in the topic and he didn't reply. I admit i COMPLETELY missed one question by him for some reason (I just looked back). I mean, I think reck is kind of exaggerating what I posted in there. I have never been a neighbour in a game before, and considering we were both in the same shift I had trouble as to what we would talk about. I told him that, and he agreed. The fact that not much has been said in the qt isn't all on me like hes making it seem, neither of us had any idea what to say.

This actually sucks, basically all my town reads are voting me :\ I don't know what to say, like ever since i came back to this site I'm getting mislynched as town like crazy and its really killing my motivation. I realize thats not much but really its the only plead I have. If I live I will step up big time, especially if Reck's role works like he said it did. It makes our roles less useless. My role says nothing about my alignment, and I've been pretty lurky. I understand why my lynch makes sense, but I still think goat is the scum here.

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and really the content reck posted in the qt I didn't really have an opinion on. He was talking about meta in games I have never read, so I didn't comment on it.I got sick of just being like "yeah that makes sense", which i admit now was sorta silly.

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Reck I meant I havent used it correcxtly in a game!

and okay

-Hello
-ask if we should claim names
- I say yes
-we claim
- he called himself town a bunch of times
- i said his role is cooler than mine
- he told me he felt dumb for going after conftown-broseidon
- I didn't notice
- during zorasters super crazy moments i said whats up with him and reck didnt reply
- reck doesnt like serene
- he talked about birdandbeast being town
- he asks me to full claim to him, I say sure and apologize because I wasnt very good in neighbourhoods, he agrees.
- he syas its weird that im just a neighbour
- Then i post 3 times over course of 3 days and he says nothing about the content I said.
- post i missed that shows hes angry
- I say I get mislynched a lot and dont know what to say in qts
- reck dissed infinite jesters and talked about meta
- I agreed infinite was being weird based on what jester said
- reck uses role

/ff

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like I dont know what you expect. you told me you dont know what to say either, I took your angry post as you not knowing what to say in QT rather than being angry at me.

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YOU AGREED IT WAS WEIRD/HARD. YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING EITHER. my god, so me doing nothing makes me terrible and useless, but you doing nothing is just silly old reckoner being Reckoner? Thats bullshit.

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people are just going to sheep you because you have a high post count anyway.

whatever

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because of reasons i dont think you can be telling the truth zoraster. basically conf scum?

Gah this is ridiculous. Why isn't zoraster dead?

VOTE: zoraster

11 4/9/2014 17:46:00 hiplop: "What's up with zoraster? Nothing is making any sense"

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- What reasons?

That was setup spec! I didn't believe that he was a neighbourizor when I was already a neighbour! Seemed like too much of a repeat role with Lovers already being in play.

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VOTE: goat

Wasn't my vote already here? I thought it was

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anyone else having very weird site problems? can only sign in occasionally.

anyways: goats self vote, and general posts about his wagon just SCREAM town to me. Venmars PoE case still makes sense, but I think it may have been more of a coincidence now.

Ika also seems town to me, i kind of feel a lot like him. Not sure how he is in other games, but I think his posting style makes him an easy wagon to jump on, as well as his sort of apathetic tone. I definitely am not in favour of this lynch.

However, a new suspect has come into the limelight, i think. Goodmorning seems desperate as FUCK to not die, and is OMGUSing everyone who is suspicious of him. All her posts seem like they have a plan to them; as if someone in a QT is telling her the best way to act.

because of this, UNVOTE: VOTE: goodmorning

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still not supportive of the ika lynch. I think im more happy with 14.5

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V/LA for 2/3 days

14.5 looks worse to me than ika for sure. I'm pretty convinced jka is town

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Go home, this is not your shift.

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alright im back i just gotta catch up so that should be done by end of tonight

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Gah, after reading im still convinced ika is town. He seems like apathetic town rather than scum and I really don't think I can support the wagon. 14.5 is a bit suspicious but is still mostly null.

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But honestly at the same time, if hes not going to help out I have a hard time rationalizes keeping him alive.

gah

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for me it would be

14.5 > zepher > aronis > ika, i think

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for me it would be

14.5 > zepher > aronis > ika, i think

Why that group of players? And you think? It sounds like you're not the person making these reads, you're just echoing them.

I literally looked at the vote count and listed off which wagons I would prefer. Not sure what is confusing about that group of players?

I think zepher looks kind of fishy, but honestly is there any huge case against him? Just wondering if I missed something?

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VOTE: zepher

this is l-1. Isnt the best vote, but he seems shifty as fuck to me

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I have never accurately read Peregrine V which really makes me mad. Despite that though, I am REALLY feeling the town coming from him. If hes scum im going to kick myself in the teeth, because part of me thinks it might just be because he thinks im town. ARGH

From what I remember (and take into mind this is pretty old, likely outdated meta) Mr Zepher is much quieter as scum? I have a feeling hes scum, and it pisses me off because I have literally nothing of quality to say other than gut.

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cant we have a tea party instead?

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I have never accurately read Peregrine V which really makes me mad. Despite that though, I am REALLY feeling the town coming from him. If hes scum im going to kick myself in the teeth, because part of me thinks it might just be because he thinks im town. ARGH

From what I remember (and take into mind this is pretty old, likely outdated meta) Mr Zepher is much quieter as scum? I have a feeling hes scum, and it pisses me off because I have literally nothing of quality to say other than gut.

Only through one fluke post in the process of PoE. Reck's death makes me think you are scum.
Also, in that other game (Mini theme) you were much more active/effective.

Why the change between that town Hiplop and this "town" hiplop?

Well if you remember I actually was pretty inactive until I found a use for myself. Wasn't until later on. I had a role and the town was pretty weak so I stepped up. Honestly ive had a lack of motivation this game and I'm unsure why

and peregrine i think town-silence would be a pretty awful role

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because im a good boy

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I honestly was warming up to the idea of zeph-town until this appeal to emotion bullshit.

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That was me claiming intent to hammer just dont want to end shift in case anything happens

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@IKA Male Secretary Who Feels Some Gender-Related Shame Not Due to His Job But Because His Boss Makes Him Question His Masculinity

I'm definitely understanding svens points there...hmm going to think about this

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neighbour with RECK remember?

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but hes dead now so basically vanilla

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wopah! IF ONLY THERE WERE 2 SCUM TO VOTE HIM RIGHT JORDAN?

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4 pages to go... im not sure if the sex offenders-party can win this

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sven yeah my role has a name its hugo esposito and something about being a mafia member in it???? not sure what it means

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No one else is talking to us Jordan I'm really sad now

Thanks so much to Zoraster for fakeclaiming my role so I wouldn't die <3

VOTE: 14.5

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fun game

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u cant post liar

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Im really damn happy that reck/zoraster played how they did lol

I could just slide through for infinity due to the neighbourizor claim from zoraster and people completely ignoring me after reck died

Only thing about this setup is it definitely made scum-lurking a bit too easy

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honestly shocked that both zoraster/serene lived as long as they did.

Even me, like people had it nailed down that i HAD TO BE SCUM, and still no pressure at all

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also the fact that we had people talking about the lovers alignment at endgame was 10/10

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i did love this game a lot <3

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Just read the deadthread. Laughed so hard at every person post death being like "fuck why is hiplop alive"

Really glad my internet survived FWIW

Serene and zoraster won this game for us oddly enough

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I noticed this game favored strategic lurking a tad too much (pressure would build but by the time it was my shift was mostly forgotten and could shift focus to like ika or something)