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who should i vote hoopla
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this lagged my screen for at least 3 secs longer than it should have
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Say I were to counterclaim this???In post 28, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:We're a miller.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Why do you think lynching a town encryptor is a good idea?
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But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???In post 50, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.In post 47, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Say I were to counterclaim this???vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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3?In post 54, SaintKerrigan wrote:- Three negative town roles already claimed. I'm not sure yet what to think about that.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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???In post 67, Juls wrote:SAD if he thinks he should die, who am I to question that? As far as I know this isn't bastard so no jesters.
Why are you assuming a town encryptor is only a benefit to the scum?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Am I???In post 66, SleepyKrew wrote: ARE YOU SERIOUSvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Good voting Tammy
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Well it depends on setup.In post 72, Juls wrote:I'm not making that assumption. Who does day talk benefit more though?
Obv?
I don't understand why you're automatically assuming it just benefits scum???vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Bad voting SKIn post 86, SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: SADvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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How are you making that assumption when you don't know anything about the setup.In post 91, Juls wrote:@SAD, I already said I am not making that assumption but I think scum day talk benefits scum more than town day talk benefits town.
Unless you do???
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Well for starters I think neighborhoods are VERY strong in being able to identify if there are any scum in there.In post 100, Juls wrote:Let's say we had the groups you suggest. The other groups could still talk in the night. What does a town person have to say in the day that can't wait to be said at night? Now ask yourself the same question about scum.
And masons can generally talk about their honest thoughts and be able to pull gambits and such?
I think you think scum daytalk is much stronger than it usually is. (the only good opinion I've seen so far about town not wanting scum to have daytalk is the number of hydras)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 88, Juls wrote:You tell me why we should not lynch him then?Vote: Juls
This is totally a srs vote.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I'll help you outIn post 122, SleepyKrew wrote:You're still scum though
But I don't remember why whereas SAD and jason are obvious so carry along
-Jumps after SK on the 'Lynching desp b/c he's an encryptor' logic
-When questioned about her personal reasoning, then asserts that her assumption is that scum daytalk is stronger than town daytalk (in any scenario??)
-When given logical reasons as to why her assumptions are wrong, she then quickly backs off.
The problem lies in the fact that I think she's both experienced and intelligent enough to have came up with those scenarios where we wouldn't just want to quick lynch the encryptor. Right now I think she just wanted to jump on the 'lynch the encryptor' idea to look town (b/c there'sno waya scum would jump on an idea that's puts them at a disadvantage right???)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Ty ty <3 <3In post 129, Juls wrote:@SAD 123 - Awww and I was just starting to town read you. You can still be town even though your vote is bad.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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No I kinda just passed out in the corner and woke up when Zach started poking me.
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The "scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor " is sarcasm and what I'm implying I think Juls was going for to look like she was town.In post 137, Feu et Vol wrote:pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I'm a rooster actually but ty close enough <3In post 140, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
Chicken!In post 63, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???In post 50, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.In post 47, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Say I were to counterclaim this???vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay we should really try not to spam this game so we can be productive in lynching the scum in short amounts of time thx for your corporation dudes and dudettes I rlly do appreciate it
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Honestly I was gonna push her really hard so I'm personally glad she claimed right now as opposed to later!In post 202, Oversoul wrote:Was Juls really in lynch territory?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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???In post 176, helium-3 wrote:
can you talk to me a bit about why you want to pl any1?In post 13, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Can't tell if it's better to pl the metal sonic hydra or the marquis hydra???
cos except for special instances, I think it shld never be done. and it seems like when it is presented in a joking manner it tends to come from scum.
VOTE: sad
Personally from what I've seen of Marquis and MS is they tend to be very spammy and chaotic and I half jokingly wanted to avoid that in a short game! (though I've rarely followed mafia for like the past year so take my words with a grain of salt?)
That's fine I don't throw reads out there in hopes of people unvoting me???In post 176, helium-3 wrote: i'm not unvoting
I was just pointing to Desp's 97 and implying it's at least not terrible logic.In post 176, helium-3 wrote: not sure what you are getting at about the number of hydras tho
Well obv yeah but I just didn't try to quote that post and probably forgot it about it in multiquoted. I was voting her on her overall play thus far up to that point not over one specific post!In post 190, helium-3 wrote:why shld we ignore the quote? is that not part of the reason you were voting her cos that is why I thought you werevezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I was surprised to see that quote above mine???In post 218, helium-3 wrote:okay, well walk me through the need as to why you placed a vote and then "omg that post is not why I am voting her" when it was the summation of her posts that led you to vote her in the first place.
Honestly I didn't even really pay attention to the exact quote rather than just notice something I didn't exactly want there?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I obv didn't mean ignore that quote in general I meant ignore that post specifically when reading my post to no think that I am solely responding to that post.In post 221, helium-3 wrote:what is bugging me is why shld we ignore the quote when that was 1 of the posts/reasons you were voting her? yeah? cos it was a summation of her posts which included the 1 you wanted every1 to ignore?
I can't tell if you're trying to reaction test me or are being purposely obtuse about this for a different reason but this is like, pretty bad?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Dude.In post 228, Oversoul wrote:
You just came out of a game where a scum in a neighborhood fooled you?In post 105, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Well for starters I think neighborhoods are VERY strong in being able to identify if there are any scum in there.
I like, barely followed that game. At all :/
I didn't even know Majiffy was in that game till after he died...vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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But it says majiffy was in the game :In post 257, Imperium wrote:Oh then my original reply still stands. I have no idea what he's mentioning about majiffy?
I already answered this?In post 258, helium-3 wrote:I am trying to figure out why you felt the need to say "omg ignore that quote" when it shld have been coupled with your thinking.
I have a very fidgety playstyle and didn't want people to think that I was solely replying to that post as opposed to her whole gameplay?
B/c you're taking something that is very much irrelevant and are trying to look like you're scumhunting (based on it).In post 258, helium-3 wrote:why is it bad exactly?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I still don't see why you're seeing it as "omgggggg sheeet ignore that quote" as opposed to me coolly and offhandedly saying "ignore that quote as I'm not specifically replying to that"?In post 273, helium-3 wrote:I am questioning sad about his "omg ignore that post" wrt you.
(Especially since I usually tend to put offhanded things that come to me in parentheses)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.
Helium just feels all over the place and not really attacking genuinely? But at the same time the points they've chosen to focus on don't really make me think "scum motivation".
Still think Juls might be scum? I mean I would be frustrated with mollie really regardless, but I'll hold off on actually getting a concert read till I might ISO them soon or just generally wait for more posts.
Skrew/Sugo/Tamcho are all leaning town. I guess? Idrk yet I guess but w/e I'll be able to sort it out later.
I feel like I should have a read on not_mafia but I don't. I'll do some ISOs when I actually get coffee.
Also Mastin is probably gonna call this post bad. The preemptive response is "lol".vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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When hydras weren't as common in games, hydra dissonance used to be a thing to tell if a slot is town since you would expect a mafia hydra to have more concrete readings since they are just bsing anyway.
When hydras become much more common, a lot of scum hydras started pulling the dissonance card on purpose, so right now, it's just a null factor.
Anyway, I agree with Juls that using your neighborhood as your hydra QT is probably bad idea right now, but it does seem something likely to come from town so it's just solidifying that read.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 474, helium-3 wrote:
yeah,In post 470, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.
Helium just feels all over the place and not really attacking genuinely? But at the same time the points they've chosen to focus on don't really make me think "scum motivation".
Still think Juls might be scum? I mean I would be frustrated with mollie really regardless, but I'll hold off on actually getting a concert read till I might ISO them soon or just generally wait for more posts.
Skrew/Sugo/Tamcho are all leaning town. I guess? Idrk yet I guess but w/e I'll be able to sort it out later.
I feel like I should have a read on not_mafia but I don't. I'll do some ISOs when I actually get coffee.
Also Mastin is probably gonna call this post bad. The preemptive response is "lol".i'mgoing to call this post shitty and bad too.
lolDayvig: Helium
Juls would you be okay being lynched if they flip town???vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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That's a scum response.In post 506, helium-3 wrote:
this is a shit gambit. not surprising.In post 503, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Dayvig: Helium
Juls would you be okay being lynched if they flip town???
on the off-chance it's real, don't lynch Juls.
sheep mastin. lynch not_mafia and oversoul.
Juls is likely town.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Whattt??In post 516, Antihero wrote:you're so scum
set a cheap, shit "trap" and don't even explain your read from it.
Why would you think I would dayvig you is beyond me? This bit is just included to make it look like a town response:
I wasn't even interested in your response rather than Juls (and if you're town it should've been blatantly obvious) but ty for responding with a scum response ily <3 <3In post 506, helium-3 wrote:on the off-chance it's real, don't lynch Juls.
sheep mastin. lynch not_mafia and oversoul.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Since we're on the hoopla topic the boded is like totally bad.In post 438, Hoopla wrote:Juls' claim was premature and weird in a way that scum don't usually make.I strongly believe her claim.I also believe Marquis' claim too, but if either of them are scum, it'd be him.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I don't take offense to pretty much... anything!In post 523, helium-3 wrote:
i could see you pulling a dumb move like that. and if you take offense to that, too bad.In post 520, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Whattt??
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Idk I just really don't like the fact she said "I believe the claim" rather than "I think Juls is town/scum" because the claim wasn't really being disputed...In post 546, jasonT1981 wrote:In post 525, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Since we're on the hoopla topic the boded is like totally bad.In post 438, Hoopla wrote:Juls' claim was premature and weird in a way that scum don't usually make.I strongly believe her claim.I also believe Marquis' claim too, but if either of them are scum, it'd be him.
do you think the pair could be connected somehow?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Bert you've already played with me in 169 you should know this is how I play???In post 551, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Your chaotic dayvig thing bothers me, it didn't generate discussion. Half of your reads are non-opinions pretty much, aka pure hubris. Also why are you going after helium so early instead of letting mollie do her D1 thing before we judgevezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Something along the lines of "lol this is stupid"
as opposed to "this is a gambit, and I know it is, but here let me put this part here about what everyone else should do in case I die to look like it's a town response".vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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???In post 557, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Why wouldn't there being two neighborizers be disputed? Setup spec impinges on gameplay.
Because the neghborizer role can easily be proven?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Well I mean more of my randomish style of posting reads but etc.In post 560, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
death tunneling style? you're not doing that hereIn post 556, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Bert you've already played with me in 169 you should know this is how I play???vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Yes but the way Hoopla said "I believe her claim" sounded like it was your role that was being disputed as opposed to your alignment.In post 563, Juls wrote:No one is doubting I am a neighborizor, they are doubting my alignmentvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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No.In post 566, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Do you guys think a massclaim would help
Yeah... no.In post 567, Oversoul wrote:Honestly it mightvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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Tbh there's a lot right now to focus on and right now I feel like I could let you do your own thing and then interact with you if any bells ring! (but I'm currently trying to figure out more priority targets right now with such short days).In post 581, Imperium wrote:You know what I'm going to say right?
If I'm just leaning town but you aren't sure, why aren't you interacting with me?
In any case whats your current read on Juls?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Honestly I like helium's points on them, but it's more of "I like the fact helium is finally making points that sound good/look like they're believing them" rather than "they're good points b/c it's true, not_mafia's posts have been bad" if that makes sense?In post 592, Imperium wrote:What do you think of not_mafia?
I'm going to ISO not_mafia soon but from what I remember he wasn't really memorable at all.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Honestly right now I think what you're seeing of "her actions as something town would [not] want to do / think of doing" as much more of her playstyle rather that b/c of he actually being scum. Tammy (I think?) compared her to Camn, and iirc that's very good way to put it.In post 603, Feu et Vol wrote:juls might be more town than just the slim possibility i've been worrying about in case of a chainlynch but i still don't see the majority of her actions as something town would want to do / think of doing.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
chesskid3: I play on NA because i enjoy my freedom.