and i'm an encryptor. rock papers scissors for who gets to die d1?In post 28, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:We're a miller.
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it says that if one encryptor is alive daytalk is active. in a way that implies i might not be the only one.In post 58, jasonT1981 wrote:By implying multiple encryptors, I am assuming multiball scum?-
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there are a lot of powerhouse hydras with known scum plotters that would absolutely benefit from daytalk. pretty much any permutation you can think of, really.In post 92, Imperium wrote:Maybe it's due to norms at my homesite, but I don't think daytalk is that big a deal definitely not something SO SCAREY I'd want to lynch someone who looks town from this to get rid of.-
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lol i did. right above me saying hi.
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hey can we go back to lynching this please tiaIn post 267, Juls wrote:So, I'm going to lose interest in this game real fast if you guys keep chatting about games other than this one. I'm not in the cool kids club which makes for a really boring read.-
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i don't really care what he claimed?In post 285, Feu et Vol wrote:You realize they claimed neighborizer right? Even if they are scum we can wait for them to make a neighborhood and add to the discussion of the game. There is no way they would waste it on their scum buddies so there would be a place for town people to discuss not only at night but for the time being during the day as well. I see no benefit what so ever from lynching Juls at this point.
nothing stopping him from claiming blocked, "claiming" he neighborized his buddy, etc.
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yup. so you agree that one of them is likely scum, yeah?In post 291, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:you're aware Marquis claimed town neighborizer right-
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hmmm?In post 317, helium-3 wrote:I think town cos of stated reasons. I just don't see him burning his meta that way.-
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if they're both town and the 3rd neighborizer doesn't claim now then he never gets to use his power so that sounds like a win to me.In post 326, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:there's a good chance there's another neighborizer out there and if there is and it's a scum neighborizer there wouldn't be much of a reason for it to claim it at this point-
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yeah but that was over like a two week day phaseIn post 377, Imperium wrote:i dont' even know. i just remember that the reason that I thought you guys were both off in Charmed was because you ignored each other.-
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can you explain this to me like i'm five? still not getting it.In post 382, helium-3 wrote:your claim doesn't have much future sustainability in this game or the next. you will have to do a lot to support a town positive utility function.
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yeah but juls' "wahh i'm not in the cool kids club" didn't sound genuine whatsoeverIn post 403, helium-3 wrote:julztown: I know what is like to feel left out cos sometimes I feel that way too. I also don't know what to do when some1 meltsdown in the way that she did.
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makes senseIn post 411, Imperium wrote:yeah but it was something I was worried about early on and didn't say anything because Nacho told me I was wrong about everything and then I let your brother sounding not like he did in too many heads throw me off. i'd rather be careful and make sure than let some of my worries go unsaid.
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i don't even think the frustration sounds genuine/town so qedIn post 418, helium-3 wrote:help me out here plz.
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*raises hand*In post 436, Hoopla wrote:I feel overwhelmed by this game already. Who is town? I'm basically willing to sheep someone and vote with them until I have any real opinions of my own. Someone speak up.
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In post 438, Hoopla wrote:Juls' claim was premature and weird in a way that scum don't usually make. I strongly believe her claim. I also believe Marquis' claim too, but if either of them are scum, it'd be him.
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why is slice scum and why don't scum claim prematurely/awkwardly? especially if they feel threatened and powerless (which juls has claimed in this topic)?In post 441, Hoopla wrote:
Town neighbouriser.In post 439, SleepyKrew wrote:When you say you believe Juls's claim, you believe she's a neighborizer or specifically a town neighborizer?-
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but you were voting meIn post 448, Juls wrote:Because it was relevant to my reasoning. And I saw the wheels of the wagon rolling and I figured I should get it out of the way so we could focus on lynching scum since we don't have a lot of time. I guess I didn't anticipate how severe of a mistake people thought I made.
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ohmyfuckinggodwhyisthisstillaliveIn post 475, Juls wrote:The hydra dissonance defense-
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In post 479, Juls wrote:An excuse to change your reads on a dime. Keep doing it, it only helps my case on you.
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In post 502, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Anyway, I agree with Juls that using your neighborhood as your hydra QT is probably bad idea right now, but it does seem something likely to come from town so it's just solidifying that read.
qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?
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now i'm just leaning town because my vote on you is lazy? lol.In post 505, Juls wrote:And since I am handing out reads prior to my imminent hanging, I actually think sugoku is town. They have taken the most reasoned approach to my play. My CC is likely scum but I am not 100% certain of that. Setting up a tit-for-tat CC seems an odd choice unless there is a third neighborizor. I lean town on Desperado but don't like his lazy vote of me. SAD is also likely town. As is Oversoul for being some blatant in requesting access to the neighborhood. Everyone else is unknown.
P-edit: absolutely and I hope that's real.
In post 337, Juls wrote:I didn't see how scum would self vote and seem to actually mean it so yeah, I read him as town.
i was lazily voting you during both of these comments so what's up?In post 339, Juls wrote:@Imperium 338 - I think desp is town, I think oversoul is more town than not, I think the hydra cc'ing me (feu whatever) is scum. I am sorta going back and forth on helium due to the way they are questioning...can't really quantify that.-
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what's a town response?
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im in another concurrent neighborhood game that is strictly nighttalk only and i'm kind of stoned right nowIn post 532, Feu et Vol wrote:thanks for calling it out but what-
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?? so what? you said me voting myself made me town. then you just said we didn't have a ton of time so you wanted to be on a wagon and catch scum...even though you were on record as thinking i was town.In post 536, Juls wrote:You were voting you too so....-
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because it's a meaningful distinction that you can't justify?In post 537, Juls wrote:Why are you arguing over town vs leaning town?-
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i literally explained this in the post immediately afterwards.In post 540, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?-
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i explained it.In post 548, jasonT1981 wrote:Interesting catch... I would like to know this tootwice.before perpetual nonsense made this "catch"-
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juls has stated multiple times that he wants helium lynched when he flips town...is anyone reading this fuckin game???In post 549, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:dat chaining-
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duhIn post 582, Imperium wrote:Yeah, I didn't really get time to though, you guys killed us night one!
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not really. i'd be more convinced if you had information on what juls does with claims as town and scum. do you think you've assembled a representative sample that should be convincing?In post 623, Hoopla wrote:Desperado. How do you feel about my opinion on Juls? Is it convincing?-
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because one mislynch on an otherwise unimportant slot isn't as valuable as scum having daytalk with practically any set of scum in this playerlist.In post 804, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Why let them have a mislynch on you just to eliminate day talk abilities?-
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i definitely would not need to do this because i'm generally alive late game in every game i play.In post 806, Imperium wrote:I can't see him doing it so that people won't be parnaoid for why he's still alive because that's not something I think he'd worry about or anyone would worry about which would be the only reason to make that claim.-
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that's the problem though, i don't get nked when i'm town (as a general rule).In post 809, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:And if he is seen as a threat and nk'd, scum lose daytalk and that's awesome
juls is scum. slandaar and saint kerrigan and nobody special lean scum. oversoul too.
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because i can't read tammy worth shit and i feel more comfortable reading nacho
as for not mafia his iso is only 7 posts long and i'm feeling pretty good after some post-work activities sooooo
multiple references to the speed of the game with "quickness" in the title is slimey and the krew vote blows chunksIn post 150, Not_Mafia wrote:Oh god, how many pages am I going to wake up to each morning.
Dayne v Juls feels town v town to me. Daytalk can be very powerful in good hands, not saying I want to lynch Desp or I'm even completely sure he's not reaction testing or something but.. meh, daytalk utilised properly can be good.
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Posting:Content ratio too high
PEDIT: oh lord like a dozen posts popping up
he's wrong about krew, otherwise mehIn post 169, Not_Mafia wrote:@Feu et Vol It's not that I find him annoying (I don't), it's a noise to signal thing
@Helium I can't make head nor tail of that post about Desp's self vote, were you calling his vote stupid or counter-productive or what?
huh?In post 188, Not_Mafia wrote:Here's a game where scum used daytalk well throughout and it was probably (one of) the main factor(s) behind their win.
Anyway I feel like we're just getting in to theory discussion (the strength of daytalk isn't irrelevant but I don't think that's the lynch should be dependent on) when the actual game-related discussion is about whether we should lynch Desp, which I'd say a resounding no to at this juncture because despite my opinion on daytalk the actual implication of his role is ambiguous.
zzzzzIn post 193, Not_Mafia wrote:I am aware of the semi-hipocrisy in the post but the theory talk is only in the first half of the post. I was saying my final words on the theory stuff and after that trying to shift the topic back on track
i haven't agreed with a single thing not mafia has done.In post 451, Not_Mafia wrote:@Marquis (Feu Et Vol head) It seems you understood me the first time and I realise you are probably correct now
That comment wasn't entirely seriousIn post 410, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:
You signed up for a game with 4 day deadlines. You should be expecting plenty of thread explosions. Why does it strike you as unusual?In post 150, Not_Mafia wrote:Oh god, how many pages am I going to wake up to each morning.
That was my gut read after reading their argumentIn post 410, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:
Why?In post 150, Not_Mafia wrote:Dayne v Juls feels town v town to me.
I do not want to lynch DespIn post 410, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:
This is incredibly non-committal and feels like a load of hedging. Do you or do you not want to lynch Desp?In post 150, Not_Mafia wrote:Daytalk can be very powerful in good hands, not saying I want to lynch Desp or I'm even completely sure he's not reaction testing or something but.. meh, daytalk utilised properly can be good.
Because at that point he hadn't really posted any content, just a bunch of questions.In post 410, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:This is a pretty terrible vote. Why does SleepyKrew's posting feel like noise to you?
I still lean town on Juls by the timing of her claim and because I don't see how this Hydra talk stuff is alignment indicative so I feel like she's just being backed in to a corner over nothing, I don't like the read on Feu Et Vol but I can also see it coming from someone who doesn't know them. Helium I see jumping on everyone and I don't think they're actually reading the posts they're attacking people for. The not liking entrances thing is mutual with slice of life, both head's entrance looked quite forced to me
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until now. bus.jpq?In post 498, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Juls
Antihero's histrionics aside, I'm not liking Juls' "You're scum so you're using hydra dissonance as a scum tactic". Should really be the other way around.
at least he's helpingIn post 626, Not_Mafia wrote:@Juls. I understand that but your point about the change in reads was discounted but you continued to push it on a house of cards of "You're scum so the hydra dissonance is fake and scum motivated"
conclusion: meh. could be scum. could be town. i think i played against notmafiatown once in a game i replaced in to as scum in the midst of getting rolled by the town in a hard boiled game. i'll need to refresh myself on it but i feel like i remember him being more active/antagonistic whereas here he's floating along despite the time crunch.-
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publically yes. privately i had you as scum for practically the entire game and called nacho as scum to cabd in site chat sometime during d1/d2In post 816, Imperium wrote:WAIT YOU HAD ME AS TOWN EARLY IN TALES OF...
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that was a bro read and i think i'd pretty much checked out by the time nacho got lynched?In post 819, Imperium wrote:pedit: but the day before or the day we did lynch nacho you had both of us in the if we could all recognize we're town list we'd win the game. I was town, but Nacho was not, and you did not want to lynch nacho the day I through a fit about him being scum.-
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i'm not shit at reading nacho though.In post 823, Imperium wrote:That's fine, but my issue is the "I feel more comfortable reading Nacho" when he's shit at reading nacho. But it's probably irrelevant as he'd probably just write me off as town if he were scum and I think his encryptor thing is town anyway.-
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mastin-style quick guide to desperado/nacho interactions:
are we both town? we'll figure that out pretty quickly
is desperado scum and nacho town? desperado isfucked
is nacho scum and desperado town? desperado will probably recognize it but fail to get nacho lynched.
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Try harder. You're part of the reason I'm still not caught up yet.In post 124, SleepyKrew wrote:Yes I post a lot. Sorry. I really do try to restrain myself.-
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