Mafia with the Quickness 2 GAME OVER!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:33 am

Hello.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:34 am

Can't tell if it's better to pl the metal sonic hydra or the marquis hydra???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:34 am

This is assuming jason improved his act from the wire game.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:34 am

In post 14, Hoopla wrote:
In post 12, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Hello.
vote

who should i vote hoopla

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:37 am

In post 11, Feu et Vol wrote: http://imustaccelerate.tumblr.com/

this lagged my screen for at least 3 secs longer than it should have

vote: feu et vol

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:39 am

fine ill sheep hoops for now

vote: slandaar

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:39 am

do you want me to proxy my vote to you also????

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #47 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:30 am

In post 28, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:We're a miller.

Say I were to counterclaim this???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #62 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:10 am

In post 59, Juls wrote:
unvote, vote: desp

Taking one for the team. Good on you.

Why do you think lynching a town encryptor is a good idea?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #63 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:10 am

In post 50, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 47, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Say I were to counterclaim this???
We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.

But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #68 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:12 am

In post 54, SaintKerrigan wrote:- Three negative town roles already claimed. I'm not sure yet what to think about that.

3?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #69 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:13 am

In post 67, Juls wrote:SAD if he thinks he should die, who am I to question that? As far as I know this isn't bastard so no jesters.

???

Why are you assuming a town encryptor is only a benefit to the scum?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #71 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:14 am

In post 66, SleepyKrew wrote: ARE YOU SERIOUS

Am I???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #80 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:18 am

In post 75, Imperium wrote:Hi!

VOTE: sir arthur dayne

Here we go!

Good voting Tammy

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #85 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:20 am

In post 72, Juls wrote:I'm not making that assumption. Who does day talk benefit more though?

Well it depends on setup.

Obv?

I don't understand why you're automatically assuming it just benefits scum???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #90 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:22 am

In post 88, Juls wrote:You tell me why we should not lynch him then?

???

Neighborhoods? Masons???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #93 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:23 am

In post 86, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 80, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 75, Imperium wrote:Hi!

VOTE: sir arthur dayne

Here we go!
Good voting Tammy
UNVOTE:
VOTE: SAD

Bad voting SK

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #95 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:24 am

In post 91, Juls wrote:@SAD, I already said I am not making that assumption but I think scum day talk benefits scum more than town day talk benefits town.

How are you making that assumption when you don't know anything about the setup.

Unless you do???

(ex 1 neighborhood 2 mason groups 1 scumteam)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #105 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:37 am

In post 100, Juls wrote:Let's say we had the groups you suggest. The other groups could still talk in the night. What does a town person have to say in the day that can't wait to be said at night? Now ask yourself the same question about scum.

Well for starters I think neighborhoods are VERY strong in being able to identify if there are any scum in there.

And masons can generally talk about their honest thoughts and be able to pull gambits and such?

I think you think scum daytalk is much stronger than it usually is. (the only good opinion I've seen so far about town not wanting scum to have daytalk is the number of hydras)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #123 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:53 am

In post 88, Juls wrote:You tell me why we should not lynch him then?

Vote: Juls

This is totally a srs vote.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #125 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:54 am

(Ignore that quote btw.)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #134 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:07 am

In post 122, SleepyKrew wrote:You're still scum though
But I don't remember why whereas SAD and jason are obvious so carry along

I'll help you out

-Jumps after SK on the 'Lynching desp b/c he's an encryptor' logic
-When questioned about her personal reasoning, then asserts that her assumption is that scum daytalk is stronger than town daytalk (in any scenario??)
-When given logical reasons as to why her assumptions are wrong, she then quickly backs off.

The problem lies in the fact that I think she's both experienced and intelligent enough to have came up with those scenarios where we wouldn't just want to quick lynch the encryptor. Right now I think she just wanted to jump on the 'lynch the encryptor' idea to look town (b/c there's

no way

a scum would jump on an idea that's puts them at a disadvantage right???)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #135 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:08 am

In post 129, Juls wrote:@SAD 123 - Awww and I was just starting to town read you. You can still be town even though your vote is bad.

Ty ty <3 <3

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #136 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:09 am

Oh my

This is a 19p game

The horror.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #142 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:11 am

In post 139, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 136, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Oh my

This is a 19p game

The horror.
Were you there at signups?

No I kinda just passed out in the corner and woke up when Zach started poking me.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #146 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:13 am

In post 137, Feu et Vol wrote:pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??

The "scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor " is sarcasm and what I'm implying I think Juls was going for to look like she was town.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #148 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:14 am

In post 140, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 63, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 50, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 47, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Say I were to counterclaim this???
We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.
But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???
Chicken!

I'm a rooster actually but ty close enough <3

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #172 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:31 am

Okay we should really try not to spam this game so we can be productive in lynching the scum in short amounts of time thx for your corporation dudes and dudettes I rlly do appreciate it

I'm out for a while.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #174 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:32 am

(before I leave Marquis is town)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #213 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:34 pm

In post 202, Oversoul wrote:Was Juls really in lynch territory?

Honestly I was gonna push her really hard so I'm personally glad she claimed right now as opposed to later!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #216 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 176, helium-3 wrote:
In post 13, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Can't tell if it's better to pl the metal sonic hydra or the marquis hydra???
can you talk to me a bit about why you want to pl any1?

cos except for special instances, I think it shld never be done. and it seems like when it is presented in a joking manner it tends to come from scum.

VOTE: sad

???

Personally from what I've seen of Marquis and MS is they tend to be very spammy and chaotic and I half jokingly wanted to avoid that in a short game! (though I've rarely followed mafia for like the past year so take my words with a grain of salt?)

In post 176, helium-3 wrote: i'm not unvoting

That's fine I don't throw reads out there in hopes of people unvoting me???

In post 176, helium-3 wrote: not sure what you are getting at about the number of hydras tho

I was just pointing to Desp's 97 and implying it's at least not terrible logic.

In post 190, helium-3 wrote:why shld we ignore the quote? is that not part of the reason you were voting her cos that is why I thought you were

Well obv yeah but I just didn't try to quote that post and probably forgot it about it in multiquoted. I was voting her on her overall play thus far up to that point not over one specific post!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #217 (isolation #31) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:42 pm

Oh.

Unvote

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #219 (isolation #32) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:05 pm

In post 218, helium-3 wrote:okay, well walk me through the need as to why you placed a vote and then "omg that post is not why I am voting her" when it was the summation of her posts that led you to vote her in the first place.

I was surprised to see that quote above mine???

Honestly I didn't even really pay attention to the exact quote rather than just notice something I didn't exactly want there?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #220 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:06 pm

Above my post voting her, to be exact.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #248 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:25 pm

In post 221, helium-3 wrote:what is bugging me is why shld we ignore the quote when that was 1 of the posts/reasons you were voting her? yeah? cos it was a summation of her posts which included the 1 you wanted every1 to ignore?

I obv didn't mean ignore that quote in general I meant ignore that post specifically when reading my post to no think that I am solely responding to that post.

I can't tell if you're trying to reaction test me or are being purposely obtuse about this for a different reason but this is like, pretty bad?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #249 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:28 pm

In post 228, Oversoul wrote:
In post 105, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Well for starters I think neighborhoods are VERY strong in being able to identify if there are any scum in there.
You just came out of a game where a scum in a neighborhood fooled you?

Dude.

I like, barely followed that game. At all :/

I didn't even know Majiffy was in that game till after he died...

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #250 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:29 pm

I for one believe both neighborizer claims!

Not necessarily that they're both coming from town but etc.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #265 (isolation #37) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:59 pm

In post 257, Imperium wrote:Oh then my original reply still stands. I have no idea what he's mentioning about majiffy?

But it says majiffy was in the game

:

In post 2, Yulia Jue wrote:3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo

In post 258, helium-3 wrote:I am trying to figure out why you felt the need to say "omg ignore that quote" when it shld have been coupled with your thinking.

I already answered this?

I have a very fidgety playstyle and didn't want people to think that I was solely replying to that post as opposed to her whole gameplay?

In post 258, helium-3 wrote:why is it bad exactly?

B/c you're taking something that is very much irrelevant and are trying to look like you're scumhunting (based on it).

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #268 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:05 pm

Wow :\

I'm used to seeing GiF but don't think I've ever seen giffy >_>

Pedit: It's k we can talk about what you think of oversoul trying to get you to neighborize him???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #275 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:14 pm

In post 273, helium-3 wrote:I am questioning sad about his "omg ignore that post" wrt you.

I still don't see why you're seeing it as "omgggggg sheeet ignore that quote" as opposed to me coolly and offhandedly saying "ignore that quote as I'm not specifically replying to that"?

(Especially since I usually tend to put offhanded things that come to me in parentheses)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #470 (isolation #40) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:23 am

So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.

Helium just feels all over the place and not really attacking genuinely? But at the same time the points they've chosen to focus on don't really make me think "scum motivation".

Still think Juls might be scum? I mean I would be frustrated with mollie really regardless, but I'll hold off on actually getting a concert read till I might ISO them soon or just generally wait for more posts.

Skrew/Sugo/Tamcho are all leaning town. I guess? Idrk yet I guess but w/e I'll be able to sort it out later.

I feel like I should have a read on not_mafia but I don't. I'll do some ISOs when I actually get coffee.

Also Mastin is probably gonna call this post bad. The preemptive response is "lol".

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #502 (isolation #41) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:46 am

When hydras weren't as common in games, hydra dissonance used to be a thing to tell if a slot is town since you would expect a mafia hydra to have more concrete readings since they are just bsing anyway.

When hydras become much more common, a lot of scum hydras started pulling the dissonance card on purpose, so right now, it's just a null factor.

Anyway, I agree with Juls that using your neighborhood as your hydra QT is probably bad idea right now, but it does seem something likely to come from town so it's just solidifying that read.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #503 (isolation #42) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:49 am

In post 474, helium-3 wrote:
In post 470, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.

Helium just feels all over the place and not really attacking genuinely? But at the same time the points they've chosen to focus on don't really make me think "scum motivation".

Still think Juls might be scum? I mean I would be frustrated with mollie really regardless, but I'll hold off on actually getting a concert read till I might ISO them soon or just generally wait for more posts.

Skrew/Sugo/Tamcho are all leaning town. I guess? Idrk yet I guess but w/e I'll be able to sort it out later.

I feel like I should have a read on not_mafia but I don't. I'll do some ISOs when I actually get coffee.

Also Mastin is probably gonna call this post bad. The preemptive response is "lol".
yeah,
i'm
going to call this post shitty and bad too.

lol

Dayvig: Helium

Juls would you be okay being lynched if they flip town???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #511 (isolation #43) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:00 am

In post 506, helium-3 wrote:
In post 503, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Dayvig: Helium

Juls would you be okay being lynched if they flip town???
this is a shit gambit. not surprising.

on the off-chance it's real, don't lynch Juls.

sheep mastin. lynch not_mafia and oversoul.

That's a scum response.

Juls is likely town.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #513 (isolation #44) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:01 am

Vote: Helium

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #520 (isolation #45) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:06 am

In post 516, Antihero wrote:
In post 511, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:That's a scum response.

Juls is likely town.
you're so scum

set a cheap, shit "trap" and don't even explain your read from it.

Whattt??

Why would you think I would dayvig you is beyond me? This bit is just included to make it look like a town response:

In post 506, helium-3 wrote:on the off-chance it's real, don't lynch Juls.

sheep mastin. lynch not_mafia and oversoul.

I wasn't even interested in your response rather than Juls (and if you're town it should've been blatantly obvious) but ty for responding with a scum response ily <3 <3

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #525 (isolation #46) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:10 am

In post 438, Hoopla wrote:Juls' claim was premature and weird in a way that scum don't usually make.
I strongly believe her claim.
I also believe Marquis' claim too, but if either of them are scum, it'd be him.

Since we're on the hoopla topic the boded is like totally bad.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #526 (isolation #47) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:12 am

In post 523, helium-3 wrote:
In post 520, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Whattt??
i could see you pulling a dumb move like that. and if you take offense to that, too bad.

i apparently need to leave instructions for yall since there's apparently a lot of trouble around here understanding basic logic

I don't take offense to pretty much... anything!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #555 (isolation #48) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:10 am

In post 546, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 525, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 438, Hoopla wrote:Juls' claim was premature and weird in a way that scum don't usually make.
I strongly believe her claim.
I also believe Marquis' claim too, but if either of them are scum, it'd be him.
Since we're on the hoopla topic the boded is like totally bad.

do you think the pair could be connected somehow?

Idk I just really don't like the fact she said "I believe the claim" rather than "I think Juls is town/scum" because the claim wasn't really being disputed...

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #556 (isolation #49) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:10 am

In post 551, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Your chaotic dayvig thing bothers me, it didn't generate discussion. Half of your reads are non-opinions pretty much, aka pure hubris. Also why are you going after helium so early instead of letting mollie do her D1 thing before we judge

Bert you've already played with me in 169 you should know this is how I play???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #558 (isolation #50) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:13 am

In post 534, Desperado wrote:
In post 511, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:That's a scum response.

Juls is likely town.
what's a town response?

Something along the lines of "lol this is stupid"

as opposed to "this is a gambit, and I know it is, but here let me put this part here about what everyone else should do in case I die to look like it's a town response".

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #561 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:13 am

In post 557, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Why wouldn't there being two neighborizers be disputed? Setup spec impinges on gameplay.

???

Because the neghborizer role can easily be proven?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #562 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:15 am

In post 560, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 556, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Bert you've already played with me in 169 you should know this is how I play???
death tunneling style? you're not doing that here

Well I mean more of my randomish style of posting reads but etc.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #565 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:17 am

In post 563, Juls wrote:No one is doubting I am a neighborizor, they are doubting my alignment

Yes but the way Hoopla said "I believe her claim" sounded like it was your role that was being disputed as opposed to your alignment.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #568 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:20 am

In post 566, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Do you guys think a massclaim would help

No.

In post 567, Oversoul wrote:Honestly it might

Yeah... no.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #569 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:21 am

(I mean yeah sure, it WOULD help, but probably scum much more).

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #585 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:58 am

In post 581, Imperium wrote:You know what I'm going to say right?

If I'm just leaning town but you aren't sure, why aren't you interacting with me?

Tbh there's a lot right now to focus on and right now I feel like I could let you do your own thing and then interact with you if any bells ring! (but I'm currently trying to figure out more priority targets right now with such short days).

In any case whats your current read on Juls?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #591 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:10 am

zzz

are you srs.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #602 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:16 am

In post 592, Imperium wrote:What do you think of not_mafia?

Honestly I like helium's points on them, but it's more of "I like the fact helium is finally making points that sound good/look like they're believing them" rather than "they're good points b/c it's true, not_mafia's posts have been bad" if that makes sense?

I'm going to ISO not_mafia soon but from what I remember he wasn't really memorable at all.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #605 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:21 am

In post 603, Feu et Vol wrote:juls might be more town than just the slim possibility i've been worrying about in case of a chainlynch but i still don't see the majority of her actions as something town would want to do / think of doing.

Honestly right now I think what you're seeing of "her actions as something town would [not] want to do / think of doing" as much more of her playstyle rather that b/c of he actually being scum. Tammy (I think?) compared her to Camn, and iirc that's very good way to put it.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #660 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:30 am

In post 656, Slice of Life wrote:
In post 581, Imperium wrote:If I'm just leaning town but you aren't sure, why aren't you interacting with me?
(Because he's scum, and if me joining his wagon gets him more votes than any of my other scumspects, I'm doing so once caught up.)

You're gonna try to tell the person who's known me for such a long time and who can probably read me the best on this site how to read me???

That's pretty lol.

Also all your few points are extremely bad.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #661 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:32 am

In post 650, Slice of Life wrote:discrediting helium when BOTH heads are VERY strong players (in vastly different ways)

I honestly don't give a single damn about how strong the players are, if I see crap play, I'm calling it out.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #662 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:33 am

(Hint like your own)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #665 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:35 am

In post 656, Slice of Life wrote:Not only is this response utter trash, it's also highly false: if there's a lot to focus on...why hasn't he actually, y'know. FOCUSED on it.

How is this a sentence you can actually type and click post on and expect it to be taken serious.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #666 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:35 am

(Like have you actually read any of my posts?)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #669 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:42 am

In post 668, Slice of Life wrote:then resorting to personal insults regarding grammar and vocabulary.

Wut.

Saying this just shows you're not even reading my posts.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #671 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:44 am

Because I've generally had an opinion on almost every major topic that has been brought up (except maybe not_mafia - which is why I said null and I need to ISO) and you claim I've focused on nothing?

You know people can just ISO me and see that you're just bullshitting right?

Pedit: Yeah, because taking everything at face value and then making a case based around it will look super genuine and will generally get you far. Go you!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #672 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:46 am

Not but srsly you thinking that I'm insulting your grammar as opposed to the content of your posts should show you how bad you are at reading me.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #674 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:57 pm

If you're referring to my apparent knowledge of the game being multi-ball I'm assuming in case it was, they're likely scum together.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #676 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:59 pm

Oh I thought you took this to mean I have ~inside knowledge~ of the game being multi-ball.

In post 470, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #677 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:04 pm

Why do we still have 2 players with 0 contribution to this game and what is the status on their prods/replacings?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #679 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:06 pm

Oh NS posted.

I apparently missed it.

In any case what's up with Nero?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #687 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:11 pm

In post 682, SleepyKrew wrote:See I had alarm bells go off when he said he didn't expect helium you think it was real. Upon rereading, the gambit was aimed at Juls (dumb thing to do), so I want to know why helium would know it was fake but Juls would fall from it?

...Because I expected a) mollie to be more familiar with my general playstyle and b) Juls having been away from mafia for a longish time period?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #718 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:27 pm

Okay so I can probably go for a not_mafia wagon right now since his posts read as sidelining too much, and honestly his juls jump looks lazy. Pressure there would be p nice.

Vote: not_mafia

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #720 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:29 pm

In post 717, Imperium wrote:
In post 687, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 682, SleepyKrew wrote:See I had alarm bells go off when he said he didn't expect helium you think it was real. Upon rereading, the gambit was aimed at Juls (dumb thing to do), so I want to know why helium would know it was fake but Juls would fall from it?
...Because I expected a) mollie to be more familiar with my general playstyle and b) Juls having been away from mafia for a longish time period?
have you played with mollie much?

I believe I played a few games where she was a hydra, but I would generally expect her to be at least aware of my playstyle more than Juls (who is probably seeing me for the first time?). And generally I got the feeling she was a bit more old-fashioned, so much more likely to fall for it.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #721 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:29 pm

In post 719, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 718, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Okay so I can probably go for a not_mafia wagon right now since his posts read as sidelining too much, and honestly his juls jump looks lazy. Pressure there would be p nice.

Vote: not_mafia
Thanks for avoiding me and thanks for saying it's just for pressure

Yw bb.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #723 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:37 pm

I'm totes town doe D:

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #726 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:49 pm

In post 724, Imperium wrote:Arthur - What are your thoughts on Jason?

Pretty much nothing, I just want more contribution from him. Though this brought back painful flashbacks from the wire game:

In post 548, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 540, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:
In post 530, Desperado wrote:qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?
Is this a slip?

You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?

Interesting catch... I would like to know this too

Is that a general playstyle?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #731 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:59 pm

In post 728, Imperium wrote:Arthur - Why did you look for Sleepy's scumslip for you?

I was genuinely curious in how he thought I "scumslipped" and it seemed fun to look at my ISO for something that might be considered a slip!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #748 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:44 pm

I feel like SKerr had a strongish start and I thought she would be more relevant but honestly I feel like she falling into the background

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #753 (isolation #80) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:54 pm

In post 0, Zachrulez wrote: 1. JasonT1981
3. Slandaar
4. Nero Cain
5. Speedy Saki (Metal Sonic + Saki)
18. Nobody Special

I honestly need something more from you guys before the day is up since we're running on such short deadlines and I'm not really content with someone being null for so long relative to the speed of the game thx ily all <3

(I just saw SKerr's post about her compiling an analysis post I look forward to that!)

I'm out for the night.

Pedit: Yeah but Jason was still talking about the catch after Desp already answered it which was very reminiscent of his lazish posting in wire but I guess it can be a posting style type of thing?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #867 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:26 am

In post 858, Speedy Saki wrote:this game is really pretty quick

This needs to get dayvigged.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #905 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:59 am

Oh dear

Can we not have a thousand pages about hydra dissonance again???

Abort topic immediately, and focus on either pressuring NS to do something useful so his word can be trusted more, pressuring him for more ~role info~, or trusting him and believing he's smart enough to interpret his role/whatever as Juls being scum (and I don't want this to be a 'it was a small maybe, and oops i just misinterpreted what was said anyway').

Thx,

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #907 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:01 am

In post 904, Juls wrote:When you lynch me, please go back and look at every person misrepresenting my attempts to explain what I meant as me "pushing it".

Why do you keep playing the "when you lynch me" card instead of fighting more actively to

not

get lynched?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #959 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:34 pm

Yeah I'm probably not gonna take that advice until I see the slot do something even mildly useful.

Thx.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #961 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:35 pm

Okay.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #965 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:47 pm

So like nothing much really interesting to comment on.

SKerr I thought you were gonna make a big analysis post?

Speedy is in very dire danger if they don't end up doing anything... as pretty much everyone else who's not doing much.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #966 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Can I join the gurls club table???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #969 (isolation #88) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:50 pm

(I have to go but if you're a vig don't counterclaim I maybe or may not be a vig and that may or may not have been a ploy to GET THEM TO DO SOMETHING tia)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #976 (isolation #89) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:58 pm

you're playing a PGO wrong

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1128 (isolation #90) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:11 am

Jason might actually be town.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1129 (isolation #91) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:12 am

(Like I actually like some of his posts in relativity to most Jason posts)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1143 (isolation #92) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:47 am

In post 1132, shos wrote:
In post 212, Nero Cain wrote:*snip*

claim: super VT
why the fuck did my slot claim???

This is so bad on so many levels

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1148 (isolation #93) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:59 am

In post 1146, shos wrote:@SAD:
why? it was harmless and showed me that desp isn't really reading the game in detail.

b/c wtf is a super vt

In post 1147, shos wrote:ka I'm through with 14 pages

anyone want to summarize a list of the claims so far?

Juls - Neighborizer
Feu - Neighborizer
Desperado - Encryptor

And both NS and Speedy crumbed some stuff.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1151 (isolation #94) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:00 am

Yeah i thought desp was joking too *shrug*

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1162 (isolation #95) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:38 am

In post 1156, helium-3 wrote:but I am curious as to why you think I should know your play? cos that confuses me a great deal and makes me not trust you.

I didn't exactly mean

my

play, per say, I meant you're part of the ~new generation~ (can't think of a better way to put it?) and is much more aware of the gambit, and I would think you should know that I'm aware of it too.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1546 (isolation #96) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:34 pm

Oh. Hello. Again.

Okay so I don't want to make a post about every little thing, so to not spam up the thread I have caught up

first

(*you should be gasping at this point for effect*).

First shos claim felt kinda really bad.
Skrew's claims was even more terribad.
Not_Mafia's claim/post didn't actually feel that bad, and struck me as pretty genuine (though there is a chance an experiened player told him to just claim VT as opposed to some ~weird role~)
Honestly SKerr's 1515 read really fake and I'm somewhat sad the wagon on her has crumbled (even though I was never on there but w/e?)
Have I mentioned I never liked how mastylen just backpedaled on like a bunch of reads?
NS is gut town.

mollie I did reply to your thing!!

In post 1162, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 1156, helium-3 wrote:but I am curious as to why you think I should know your play? cos that confuses me a great deal and makes me not trust you.
I didn't exactly mean
my
play, per say, I meant you're part of the ~new generation~ (can't think of a better way to put it?) and is much more aware of the gambit, and I would think you should know that I'm aware of it too.

(I mean mastylen told me to say that so blame them if you don't like it? But you should at least acknowledge I gave you a reply

)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1555 (isolation #97) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:51 pm

In post 1547, SaintKerrigan wrote:@sad: how does it feel fake?

It feels too forged, like you had nothing to say but just felt like you should complain loudly about the claims/posts/etc that has happened without actually giving any opinion.

I think what's really bothering me about it is the fact that you decided to complain about N_M's wagon dying (that bit it fine), but then somehow happen to mention shos but give

absolutely 0 opinion about him

. It just... doesn't feel like a genuine reaction.

In post 1547, SaintKerrigan wrote:Also what's your response to my FoS on you?

Cool!

(I mean with regards to how it affects my read on

you

: not particularly in anyway? How I generally feel about you suspecting me: meh)

Also I don't really overreact under pressure (other than my first game as scum ugh

)! I kinda just try trollishly slip out of it!

Now that we're on topic of that post, I really don't like the fact you add in the part about you perhaps upgrading it to a vote. Again, it doesn't feel like you're trying genuinely to create pressure in the right places or attempt to comprise or just... mesh the game together (I don't particularly blame you for having scumreads that aren't perhaps getting as much pressure, but generally town (who don't have scumreads that are being pressured strongly) would try more to get other townies to see their PoV and try to make them see their scumreads as opposed to just placing - or saying they're going to place - a vote on them without trying to get... other townies more, uhh, "involved" in what they're seeing. A good example of this is mollie talking to Tammy about how she might be reading me wrong as should reconsider her read on me!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1571 (isolation #98) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:17 pm

In post 1569, Imperium wrote:The only thing that bothers me is his looking for the scum slip.

But I was genuinely curious what he thought was a "scumslip"

(I mean regardless of alignment really I would've been curious!)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #1581 (isolation #99) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:43 pm

Vote: shos

(L-1)

I'm out for the night.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:44 pm

Haha well yeah who the fuck knows who hes gonna shoot if hes actually town looks like missing a few screws but idc as long as its npt one us. agree outing masons this early would suck hard

anyway im out cant stay awake longer for the fli

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:46 pm

FUCKK thos phone sicks balls

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:47 pm

If only i actually had slim fingers the things i can actually achieve ffs

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:20 am

(that was just a gambit btw)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:27 am

Juls
Desperado
Sugoku Sugoi
Feu et Vol
Nobody Special
Perpetual Nonsense

Hoopla
SleepyKrew
Speedy Saki
Oversoul

helium-3
Slandaar
jasonT1981
Slice of Life

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:52 am

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:57 am

In post 1731, Hoopla wrote:
In post 1729, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone.
how so?

His votes look opportunistic scum and there's some rather large wagons with like everyone but him either confirmed town, or highly likely town.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:57 am

In post 1733, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1729, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.
lolwut this post please die

Which part is bad sir???

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:02 am

In post 500, Zachrulez wrote:
11th Vote Count of Day 1

Juls
(5): Desperado, Sugoku Sugoi, Feu et Vol, SleepyKrew, Not_Mafia

helium-3
(2): Juls, jasonT1981

Imperium
(1): Perpetual Nonsense

Slice of Life
(1): Hoopla

SaintKerrigan
(1): Slandaar

Ser Arthur Dayne
(1): Imperium

Speedy Saki
(1): Oversoul

Not_Mafia
(1): helium-3

Oversoul
(1): Slice of Life

Not Voting
(5): Nero Cain, Ser Arthur Dayne, Speedy Saki, Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-06-17 09:00:00)

In post 1350, Zachrulez wrote:
21st Vote Count of Day 1

Not_Mafia
(7): Sugoku Sugoi, Ser Arthur Dayne, Imperium, Speedy Saki, SleepyKrew, shos, Juls

shos
(4): Perpetual Nonsense, Slandaar, helium-3, Not_Mafia

SaintKerrigan
(3): Oversoul, Desperado, Hoopla

Oversoul
(1): Slice of Life

Juls
(1): Feu et Vol

Speedy Saki
(1): jasonT1981

Not Voting
(2): Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-06-17 09:00:00)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:19 pm

Vote: Slandaar

Good job town caught our first scum ez I'll see you all D3.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:46 am

(If you guys missed it Jason is town btw)

Also I'm appalled by the fact the fact people missed Slandaar's reeking scumpost. Like I haven't seen a scummier sentence in my life as much as that second sentence.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:21 am

In post 1851, Slandaar wrote:Not wanting to post my life story is scummy?

Obviously I know my activity hasn't been of an acceptable level which I can explain with a life story post but I hate those so I just decided to use self-meta. It isn't WIFOM because clearly my plan as scum would never be to not contribute to a game and then argue I'm not scum because as scum I normally contribute and try to look town. The point of the selfmeta was to say/show my lack of activity isn't alignment indicative because as scum I do actually contribute thus the self-meta is posted instead of posting my life story.

I have the day off today so I will be able to try and get into the game...

Jason

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:21 am

DO YOU SEE THAT

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:21 am

CAN U HAMMER

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:26 am

In post 1891, Slice of Life wrote:PS I'm not hammering someone for being what I read as genuinely inactive.

DUDE THAT'S NOT THE POINT

zzzz

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:40 am

In post 1905, Slandaar wrote:Even day cop. Haven't used it today; intend to read things first before making my decision will do that in a bit.

=======[]
[]=======

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:06 pm

In post 1932, Slandaar wrote:Anyways, thank you everyone for your input, I have listened to it and taken it into consideration but in the end I decided Sugoku is/are the best candidates. Will pm the mod.

Is this real life.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:23 pm

In post 1944, helium-3 wrote:sad softclaimed masons yesterday so unless metal wants to back him up then sad is most likely scum. it looked like it was a claim under the anxiety that shos might venge him. and then the follow-up today "it was a gambit" makes me think he is full of shit. cos, halfclaims are shit under that setting.

Wut.

I was obv trying to make it look like I posted in the wrong place (here instead of masons place)

How bad can you be.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:25 pm

Also lol you're funny if you think I would want to kill tammy n1.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:25 pm

But then again this is literally 169 all over again.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:27 pm

Here ya go

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also I quite enjoy playing with Tammy so even had I been scum I wouldn't have supported a kill on her this early, but etc.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:28 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5552984

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:34 pm

How bad can you be

I picked up on the obvscum and pointed it out to everyone.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:35 pm

Also how is trying to push an obvscum before they try to pull some weird gambit a bad thing wtf are you on.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:36 pm

Come on your points are bs and your reaction tests are bs, stop with this now.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:37 pm

In post 1954, helium-3 wrote:try again. I am calling out your shit on softclaiming masons at a time when the only reason to do so was for self-preservation against a possible venge on you.

Want a cookie?

I told you it was a gambit. Go re-read it. Go read the two posts AFTER IT. Realize it was me trying to make it look like I accidentally posted in the wrong place to pull the nightkill instead of me having any fear of getting vigged.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:41 pm

In post 1962, SleepyKrew wrote:Also it didn't look like accidentally posting in the wrong place to me ftr

How is that even the point.

It's about the motivation.

I'm scum now for pulling bad gambits?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:45 pm

In post 1968, helium-3 wrote:
In post 1965, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 1962, SleepyKrew wrote:Also it didn't look like accidentally posting in the wrong place to me ftr

How is that even the point.

It's about the motivation.

I'm scum now for pulling bad gambits?
what was your motivation

Well now I can understand why you're scumreading me when you don't even read my posts.

In post 1960, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I told you it was a gambit. Go re-read it. Go read the two posts AFTER IT.
Realize it was me trying to make it look like I accidentally posted in the wrong place to pull the nightkill
instead of me having any fear of getting vigged.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:48 pm

The person who assembles imaginary cases and wants people to follow them is calling me on "bullshit"

Okay bud.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:53 pm

That's what a meant too.

Jeez.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:53 pm

Okay gimmie a sec.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:56 pm

In post 1617, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Haha well yeah who the fuck knows who hes gonna shoot if hes actually town looks like missing a few screws but idc as long as its npt one us. agree outing masons this early would suck hard

anyway im out cant stay awake longer for the fli

Notice how I start off with a response. No one gave any indication that they were questioning who shos was gonna shoot before my post.
Notice how I say "agree".
Notice how it says "us".
Notice how I tried to make it look like the post was cut before finished.

In post 1618, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:FUCKK thos phone sicks balls

Notice how I give an indication I hate phone posting.

In post 1619, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:If only i actually had slim fingers the things i can actually achieve ffs

Notice how I allude to the fact that I accidentally clicked "submit".

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:59 pm

In post 1983, helium-3 wrote:your saying it was a gambit in response to an anticipated response to what you did on d1 when you were not even under fire for that particular reason looks out of place.

What does this even mean.

Why do I need to be "under-fire" to try to pull a gambit to try and draw a nightkill with few cons and a bunch of pros.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:00 pm

In post 1985, SleepyKrew wrote:I AM GOING TO USE THE WORD MASONS EVEN THOUGH "US" WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE

B/c us could literally mean a shitton of stuff.

Also it can just be assumed it was the scum qt I was trying to speak in

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:01 pm

In post 1988, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1984, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Notice how I allude to the fact that I accidentally clicked "submit".
Do you know what a fact is

Your face!

#Comebacks2014

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:02 pm

This conversation is getting boring.

Imma go play league.

Someone like post in big letters on a page when Slandaar actually gets lynched.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:34 am

In post 1798, Slice of Life wrote:The self meta-ing rings my buzzer a little bit. They're saying they aren't scum because they haven't bothered trying to look town, basically.

In post 1799, Slice of Life wrote:Trouble is, I don't believe that because in their iso, they look like they're making an attempt at doing something. Null to me, I can buy the excuses that they're behind.

In post 2013, Slice of Life wrote:Why is Desp an obvious townie to you?

Vote: Slice of Life

See you day 4.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:35 am

In post 1891, Slice of Life wrote:PS I'm not hammering someone for being what I read as genuinely inactive.

Oh lol and this.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:38 am

You're going down next bud.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:38 am

In post 2071, Haylen wrote:
Claim: Vanilla Townie

Funny how SAD thought he could swoop in with a hammer though. That was a bad post.

Funny how you think I can't count.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:40 am

In post 2075, Juls wrote:
In post 2072, Oversoul wrote:I think SAD is scum actually. I think that vote on Slandaar was a bus.
Then why are you voting SOL?

Juls pls. His wagon is tomorrow let him have his little fun right now.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:41 am

In post 2077, Haylen wrote:I plan on looking into SAD more tomorrow, but my vote is going to be placed there as a holder so my feelings are clear.

Vote: SAD

Your feelings of you thinking I can't count are very clear, yes.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:32 pm

In post 2109, Juls wrote:
In post 95, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
(ex 1 neighborhood 2 mason groups 1 scumteam)
@SAD was this a crumb that you knew this information?

Nope it was just trying to demonstrate an ideal situation in which town could have massive advantage of daytalk.

Not that this actually happened in reality but etc

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:32 pm

In post 2112, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:There are no comments about the quick day yesterday and ======[], who else finds the silence deafening?

It was awesome!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:33 pm

(But srsly what comments do you actually want?)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:31 pm

(I kinda think that's why he's town)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:31 pm

((except for a lingering thought that that's what he did in the wire iirc

))

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:35 pm

Vote: SleepyKrew

^ Good voting.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:42 pm

In post 1883, SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Slandaar

L-1

In post 1884, jasonT1981 wrote:these last two pages have been like listening to two 5 year olds talk.....jesus.

In post 1885, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 1851, Slandaar wrote:Not wanting to post my life story is scummy?

Obviously I know my activity hasn't been of an acceptable level which I can explain with a life story post but I hate those so I just decided to use self-meta. It isn't WIFOM because clearly my plan as scum would never be to not contribute to a game and then argue I'm not scum because as scum I normally contribute and try to look town. The point of the selfmeta was to say/show my lack of activity isn't alignment indicative because as scum I do actually contribute thus the self-meta is posted instead of posting my life story.

I have the day off today so I will be able to try and get into the game...
Jason

In post 1886, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:DO YOU SEE THAT

In post 1887, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:CAN U HAMMER

In post 1888, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1887, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:CAN U HAMMER
what the fuck dude

In post 1890, SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:

"Hi I put my partner at L-1 to get them to claim day-cop so maybe they can save their skin but then I got antsy that there was going to be a quickhammer before he has time to pull his shenanigans".

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:43 pm

ugh it was the other spoiler

i keep confusing them

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:47 pm

Just generally how he looked lost and confused in the wire and here.

I'm not sure if it's a playstyle of how he typically is or if it's a gambit he pulls as scum or what.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:49 pm

In post 2118, jasonT1981 wrote:Helium tried to out masons in day 2... post 1624 viewtopic.php?p=5955517#p5955517

then goes as far as outright outting a mason in 1627 viewtopic.php?p=5955525#p5955525

Like I think he's referring to me as the mason but like he either missed Desp's post above his and like my/heluim's 20 pages of trying to explain the gambit, or what.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:52 pm

In post 2185, Juls wrote: lets do it. Me vs Feu!
Everyone
pick a side, me or feu. Lynch the more scummy one. If you lynch me, kill feu and Sugoku. If you lynch Feu and he isn't scum, lynch me.

Ffs stop being bad.

In post 2185, Juls wrote: lets do it. Me vs Feu!
Everyone
pick a side, me or feu. Lynch the more scummy one. If you lynch me, kill feu and Sugoku. If you lynch Feu and he isn't scum, lynch me.

Ffs stop being bad. And you're still playing this game to the fullest of your potential and don't give me the freaking look.

Okay let me just get this straight:
jasonT1981 - No claim
Speedy Saki - Masons with NS
helium-3 - No claim
Desperado - Encryptor
Perpetual Nonsense - Miller
Juls - Neighborizer. Day 1: Sugo, 2: Hoopla (dead), 3: Jason
Sugoku Sugoi: No claim
Oversoul - No claim
Feu et Vol - Neighborizer. Day1: Speedy, 2: PN, 3: Sugo
SleepyKrew - 2 shot commuter
Ser Arthur Dayne- No claim

Imma go sleep and ponder if we need to massclaim today. While I do that everyone go look at where SKrew thought he had caught me in a scumslip and tell me if it reads genuine.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:53 pm

In post 2184, Feu et Vol wrote:it's scum playing dumb. i don't get at all how you can still push a speedy saki angle as town in light of the flip, almost like you're trying to distance yourself from the the nightkill or something.

FFs stop being bad too.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:59 pm

I still have no clue how you can see it as a slip.

Sugo saw the thread the morning of Day 4.

NS was killed N3.

If that's what you're still talking about that makes 0 sense.

If you're talking about the how they didn''t go "gee, maybe PN/Fue is scum" then that actually might make sense.

I'm off to sleep b/c I'm seriously lacking it.

(though ftr I feel it is horribly dumb if PN/Fue was scum and actually killed NS because he was a mason since he presented no threat plus they would receive major suspicion from a move that earned them... what a dead confirmed townie that presented no threat? Might be WIFOM but meh)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:33 pm

In post 2280, Oversoul wrote:I am basically conftown because Mastin can literally not read me for shit and she was voting me.

What
Is
This

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:34 pm

In post 2282, Oversoul wrote:VOTE: Juls

Called Saki town. So boss.

How are you still alive.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:36 pm

In post 2299, SleepyKrew wrote:PS to scared scum
Are you really scared enough to play outguess the commute? You wanna dance? I'll dance. Let the music play, bitches.

What
Is
This

Is this real life.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:37 pm

In post 2188, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:everyone go look at where SKrew thought he had caught me in a scumslip and tell me if it reads genuine.

tia

Ser Arthur Dayne · Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:34 am

Unvote
Vote: OVersoul

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:42 am

Welcome singer!

Guys I'm kinda busy the next few days :/ I'll try to keep up, but honestly right now I'm kinda doubting my read on SKrew. I think at one point he reached a point where he was cornered to provide content and started throwing sloppy things, which imo town do (this doesn't really sound good but it's somewhat what i did in Reck's game http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=25009)

Anyway I still really feel Oversoul is by FAR our best bet for scum right now. Just look at PoE. Look at the people that can't be scum together. And then the people who are very highly likely town. It basically leaves oversoul.

I want to look at Sugo and Helium at one point more in depth. Though from what I've read quickly Anti's post seem really genuine.

(I still don't know what to think of Jason don't ask)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:01 pm

Sigh.

Vote: SleepyKrew

I still think his recent play is reminiscent of my play in reck's game that I linked where I was town.

Plus I really think Oversoul is by farrrrrr our best shot at scum because of PoE, even IGNORING how scummy he has been. But speaking of the latter, like... he simply literally put SKrew at L-1 with... nothing. And he was calling him town before...

Might be a bus *shrug*

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:01 pm

Or like it can just point to Jason scum.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:54 am

TOWN
Desperado
Feu et Vol

VERY LIKELY TOWN PARANOIA ASIDE
Perpetual Nonsense
singersigner

THEN WE HAVE:
Helium vs Sugo (can't be scum together)

REMAINING
Oversoul

Vote: Oversoul

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:26 am

In post 2596, Oversoul wrote:I was not around at the conclusion of yesterday?

Take a look. I was gone from the site for two days completely. I was in a cabin in the middle of the woods. *shrug*

Perchance you missed my VLA banner?

This is so terrible.

Let me get this straight.

You read Sleepy's push on Jason, and had time to vote him, but couldn't even put like 1 line saying "I'm voting SleepyKrew because of his push against Jason. It was forestalled and wasting time. I thought his early pushed were genuine but his play faltered as the day went on."

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:28 am

In post 2388, Oversoul wrote:Desp it's almost as if multiple days and multiple posts have happened since those first two quoted posts.

I must have missed all that in the mean time!

Wait you even had time to reply with a sarcastic comment!

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:31 am

In post 2579, helium-3 wrote:
In post 2577, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:TOWN
Desperado
Feu et Vol
desperado? yes
beasthydra? no

I don't really know about beast but marquis felt very town in the beginning of the game.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:32 am

(though something isn't adding up b/c i'm getting the feeling the game is too town-sided in its current state)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:33 am

Should probably massclaim, yeah.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:33 am

Who has not yet claimed? Me, Jason, Sugo, and helium?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:35 am

In post 2118, jasonT1981 wrote:OK my thoughts incase I am speed lynched before I get back online

<snip>

If you genuinely thought you get get lynched at this point, why didn't you... you know, claim?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:40 am

In post 2608, Desperado wrote:if a neighborizer is scum it's feu hydra

Can you read the neighbor QT and tell us what you think of their posting there?

irrc Sugo said their posting there was extremely town or something.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:21 am

prod dodge

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:03 pm

In post 2779, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Until about D3, Arthur's reads with mine overlapped quite well but I don't get the whole "one of Helium or Sugoku" thing in Post 2577. I agree that from your POV, it is unlikely that Helium and us are scum together but I'm not calling Helium scum at all.

Well I kinda put that there saying you guys can't be scum together, to show that even IF one of you were scum POE still hits Oversoul.

I also think scum might be just playing bad in general.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:14 am

If oversoul is town he should be very ashamed of his play here.

Fortunately he's not and is just trolling at this point.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:13 pm

What's worrying me about singer is the fact she entered the game and then right away was like "bam one of the neighbors have to be scum".

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:14 pm

Also I was rereading some and this

In post 1903, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:We are not against lynching Slandaar but the speed of the wagon as well as everyone preferring Slandaar over Jason worries me. I am getting the impression that Slandaar is being wagoned due to low activity and contributions to the game which is a null tell although I do think he is very likely scum through POE. I want to see the claim as well and go from there.

Is just...

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:52 pm

In post 2506, singersigner wrote:what do you think the chances are of two town neighborisors

So is this like a legitimate question

or like

"What do you think the CHANCES of two town neighborizer are"

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:53 pm

Hmm

Unvote

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:57 pm

In post 2909, Oversoul wrote:Well this has drained me.
*sigh* lynch me and be done with it

I clearly will be able to do nothing to change any of your minds.

Sigh. Your posts were actually getting much better up until this post.

Then you skyrocketed again.

If you're scum you should blame yourself for this post like Slandaar should blame himself for the post that made him pretty obv scum :p

Ser Arthur Dayne · Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:57 pm

(still don't actually want a hammer yet though)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:51 pm

In post 2913, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 2506, singersigner wrote:what do you think the chances are of two town neighborisors
So is this like a legitimate question

or like

"What do you think the CHANCES of two town neighborizer are"

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:56 pm

Eh.

Actually gonna hammer oversoul. This day doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere and the bit of cold feet I was getting is overwhelmed by the fact that POE points straight to him, and the fact if he does actually flip town I have more incentive to start looking at people that are flying under my radar.

Vote: Oversoul

Ser Arthur Dayne · Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:58 pm

(psst that mean you two helium/sugo, and the two neighbors)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:58 am

So I didn't want to lynch any of the neighbors till I actually looked at the neighborhoods, but since I haven't yet (

) and there is so little people left, I kinda wanna look at the scummier of the two.

Right now where I'm at

PN's claim looks really genuine. Now that doesn't necessarily means they're town (I mean a scum could've gotten a fake-claim of miller), but I think the fact they claimed it early points more to the fact they're town. Plus from what little I know about Bert he's read town early on.
Still think one of Sugo and Helium is town, and not both.
Jason I'm going paranoid over because I can actually see a SKrew vs Jason being planned scum on scum. If one of them does get lynched, the other would be in a good position.

So few people left :s

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:59 am

(Does Zach even actually give out fake-claims like Faraday et al.?)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:00 pm

Also need to massclaim the remaining unclaimed people.

Sugo
Helium
Me

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:01 pm

(Meh there's actually no point to waiting any longer - I'm VT)

Ser Arthur Dayne · Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:01 pm

In post 2955, helium-3 wrote:i think it's SAD/feu

i'm town bud.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:14 pm

Vote: singersigner

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:34 am

V/LA for about 24hrs

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:17 am

In post 3015, helium-3 wrote:well shit, i didn't realize we had <48hours

Yes, and why haven't you actually claimed yet?

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:17 am

Unvote
Vote: Jason

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:10 pm

F-16 I'm town.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:10 pm

Like you know I'm town too so I don't understand why you're trying to play it off.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:23 pm

Again you guys are misrepping and I already explained this once.

I am not saying one of Sugo or Helium has to be scum.

I am saying IF - note the word if, here this'll help out

IF

one of them is scum, the other can't be scum.

So in my list of trying to narrow everyone down, I'm putting them in a binary state and stating that at most one of them could be scum, so trying to get the other scum IF one of them is scum. If some people are scummier than them, sure I would want them to be lynched first. But helium/sugo are still in a binary state BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SCUM TOGETHER.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:25 pm

In post 2787, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 2779, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Until about D3, Arthur's reads with mine overlapped quite well but I don't get the whole "one of Helium or Sugoku" thing in Post 2577. I agree that from your POV, it is unlikely that Helium and us are scum together but I'm not calling Helium scum at all.
Well I kinda put that there saying you guys can't be scum together, to show that even IF one of you were scum POE still hits Oversoul.

I also think scum might be just playing bad in general.

Funny - which is what I said right here but who's paying attention anyhow.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:27 pm

In post 3068, singersigner wrote:SAD/Jason/PN/Fue

How is this even a valid readlist

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:29 pm

In post 3072, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:So, why should I "know" you are town here, Arthur?

Because anyone who was able to write this about me:

In post 1440, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:6) Ser Arthur Dayne - Arthur's initial posts felt easygoing and natural tonally, and his frustration with Helium3 in Post 248 felt particularly genuine especially when he was getting grilled about why his quote should be ignored and wondering if they were trying to reaction test him. I also really like his reaction in Post 503 and the dayvig Helium and asking if Juls would be okay with the lynch felt like he was genuinely trying to sort Juls. While we disagree with his Post 511, it felt like he actually thought he caught scum and I can see it coming from a town POV especially when he provides his reasoning in Post 520 which actually makes a lot of sense. His wanting to leave Tammy alone in Post 585 also matches up with how I know he sorted her in NY169 and I really love his confident response to Slice in Post 660 about Tammy being able to read him best.

Should know I am town because this is literally hitting everything on the head and rarely does anyone get this good at reading me.

For that to evaporate away is worrying.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:30 pm

In post 3074, singersigner wrote:I dunno, more valid than you thinking I could be scum at this point. So what about other than those two? How do you actually feel about the game state? Who might jason's buddy be?

I actually don't think you're scum anymore since I reread Juls.

Honestly leaning towards Sugo being Jason's partner.

Maybe Bert, though the Sugo push on them reads weird.