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Sugo, to explain further:
If you had wrote that as town I would expect you to be able to remember it and be able to still think I'm town because of it - because you know in 169 where I said rarely do people actually read me good as how I feel you/Tammy read me.
If you had wrote that as scum you could've easily been putting things that I wanted to see to make you think I'm town, because I don't doubt you can fake that type of genuine reading as scum.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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to make me think you're town*In post 3077, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:you think I'm townvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 2190, Juls wrote:Fuck you SAD...I have given you two scum. Sugoku slipped and your fucking head is in the sand.
Oh and @singerIn post 2191, Juls wrote:Sorry, that was out of line but this is bull shit. What do you think we are all town?
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Hun I don't remember half this game.
But if it's the part you're talking about, where SKrew got lynched - then yes, it was a valid strategy since Jason became a strong townread after SKrew's lynch.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Also how do you just brush aside a point you've been harping on forever now like it was nothing that I gave a valid response toIn post 3072, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:So, why should I "know" you are town here, Arthur?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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AT LEAST 1?In post 3067, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Whereas my saying that there is at least one scum in Arthur, Jason, and PN makes perfect sense.
Gee that's awfully concrete reads.
You're telling me you put 3 people - want one of them lynched, and think there might just be one of them that is scum.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I sure was very manipulative in 169 tooIn post 3087, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:You comparing my ability to read you to Tammy's (who's played tons of games with you here and are apparently offsite as well) feels manipulative as fuck. It reminds me of FoxHound in Tales where DV pointed out my early townread of him as a reason for why I shouldn't scumread him then.
In post 7515, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote: I just think that they're one of the few people who should clearly see I'm town because they have experience with me and because I feel like they're one of those few people like Tammy who can read me good.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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So how do you brush aside one of you ~MAJOR~ points on me RE: you/helium without even stating if you like the response or not, or if you think it's fake/genuine/etc.In post 3089, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:1) Of course, I'm evaluating players, interacting with all of you/Bert/Jason and evaluating your responses to develop my reads.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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We have hydra'd together,In post 3087, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:sense as I've been wrong as town in the only game we played together.
and I believe I played more than one game with your previous account.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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But yet
You are still showing insight into my play that people rarely reach.
I don't want to pull an OS/mastin card, but when you're showing familiarity into my play, I will assume you are able to read me, and I don't care how many game we've played together - you might be experienced with the playstyle/etc, it doesn't matter to me at all.
So when you then go back on that read when it seemed so genuine and nailed in the first read, I'm only left to think it was falsely tailored to my liking.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Why didn't you say that before.
For someone who has been harping on that as a major point, you sure didn't feel like giving thoughts on the matter at all and instead tried to push a different matter.
Almost reads like you didn't come up with a way to push that point further and instead tried turning the tables to a different point so you can just continue your push.
Which I might say reads very fake.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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"GEE I LIKE THAT RESPONSEIn post 3096, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:
I read your response. I don't see a reason for you to create a Helium/Sugoku dichotomy at all. I mean, we don't make sense as scum with plenty of players, like Jason for a start. Helium doesn't make sense with Feu. Helium doesn't make sense with Juls/Singer. I don't understand why Sugoku/Helium is any sort of dichotomy in particular or why you are mentioning it at all.In post 3091, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
So how do you brush aside one of you ~MAJOR~ points on me RE: you/helium without even stating if you like the response or not, or if you think it's fake/genuine/etc.In post 3089, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:1) Of course, I'm evaluating players, interacting with all of you/Bert/Jason and evaluating your responses to develop my reads.
GEE I DON'T LIKE THAT RESPONSE."
You didn't pick one - it looked like you just waited for Helium to say if they liked it or not and then wagon that to see if you should push harder or not.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What if those pairings make sense to me?In post 3096, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:I don't see a reason for you to create a Helium/Sugoku dichotomy at all. I mean, we don't make sense as scum with plenty of players, like Jason for a start. Helium doesn't make sense with Feu. Helium doesn't make sense with Juls/Singer. I don't understand why Sugoku/Helium is any sort of dichotomy in particular or why you are mentioning it at all.
Why are you assuming we have exact same reads?
What if I just don't think you/Helium make sense as partners?
Why do you continue to make bullshit up?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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It's funny how when you're pressured to give a response you came up with a bullshitty response that is totally dependent on your reads and doesn't even take into account what/how I might be thinking.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Sure reads change.In post 3102, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Reads change. Not go back on my reads means to assume that all of my D1 reads are correct.
But when they do you have to actually take into account HOW you were reading someone before hand, not just throw everything out of the window.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Vote: Sugo
See you all day 7 (maybe!).
I still think Jason is scum/still willing to lynch him.
Just feel like getting the satisfaction of being on a scum (a more likely scum perhaps!).
It feels great if you're going to ask.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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You should join me!In post 3107, Feu et Vol wrote:Pedit I really really hope you're scum now because this is ridiculousvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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NO YOU'RE NOTIn post 3111, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Now that I know I'm wrong somewhere, I am re-evaluating my reads.
STOP SAYING THIS
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS NOT RE-EVAULTING READSvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Lol?In post 3112, Feu et Vol wrote:"I think blank and blank are scum but let's push away from the bigger wagon because in reality that's my scum partner and I'm trying to look like I supported his lynch if he flips first"
No I legit still think Jason is scum and fully don't expect anyone to join me on Sugo and will switch back.
What a prime example of someone who has no hope in reading me.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Sugo is not in hammer range either and the wagon is mighty good btw!In post 3114, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:It won't be a hammer. You are good to vote.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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zzzzIn post 3118, Feu et Vol wrote:SAD I DONT CARE IF IM ASKING YOU TO BUS NOW BUT YOU VOTE JASON TOO
no (at least not now)
I'll see you tomorrow
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Oh one last comment - yes lets brush aside valid points with sarcasm instead of actually trying to respond to themIn post 3111, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:You are drowning out our argument with a bunch of overblown rhetoric in Post 3101 and Post 3103vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What.In post 3126, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:I thought you said I was scum. If I am scum, my ability to read you is irrelevant to this game. Why are you commenting on it?
You are able to read me.
You are able to fake read me in a way (when you're scum) that would be to my liking/tailored to fit me correctly.
Because it stems from the fact you're able to read me in the first place.
How does this not make sense.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Do you award every "bad play" (in your opinion) with a scumread.In post 3128, Feu et Vol wrote:Do you understand why I think you are scum with jason now?
That can get awfully terrible after a while.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Also, the more I thought about it, the more I like this:
And agree that the miller claim just doesn't make sense right now.In post 3135, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:I also agree with F-16 that Bert claiming miller is smth he would do in order to fool Tammy.
This game wasn't advertised as a bastard, and I would assume that a miller without a cop is considered bastard?
Would also be fairly happy with a PN lynch.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Also:In post 2966, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:(Does Zach even actually give out fake-claims like Faraday et al.?)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Yes.In post 3145, helium-3 wrote:
is this supposed to be in relation to you thinking that a (lol) miller claim is a fakeclaim?In post 3144, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also:In post 2966, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:(Does Zach even actually give out fake-claims like Faraday et al.?)
I have no words.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Your personality is beyond atrocious.In post 3146, helium-3 wrote:what do you think of sad's narrative about pn being scum cos they were given a fake miller claim like I am still laughing about this.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay, so one of the neighbors is close to 100% scum, since I don't see PN and Sugo together.
Sad thing is every time I look at both their ISO, I find things that makes me read them town >_>
Which is making me lean towards lynching from the former two.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3213, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:I want to vote Arthur but I'm holding back so Pie can approve of it and to see which way the other votes fall.
Testing the waters much?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3212, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Okay, five possibilities:
Arthur/Singer
Arthur/Feu
Arthur/PN
Feu/Singer
Feu/PN
Singer/PN
What is this post?
And what is the point of it?
And why are you so bad?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3217, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:I am 100% sure you are scum, Arthur.
I'll have fun quoting this to you at endgame!
Sadly can't say the same thing about you!In post 3217, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Good job so far.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3216, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Why are you pointing out null tells as scum tells?
Because it's terrible.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3223, Feu et Vol wrote:sure the common denominator of any scumteam is sad.
Ohhhh.
Now I understand why Sugo posted the possibilities.
There are some people that can't get to them on their own.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I know.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3227, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Arthur, in this possibility that we're town from our POV, who's the scum?
...?
Am I looking from your PoV or mine... or what.
Can you rephrase that.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I would lean PN/Singer.
Again, I am having trouble seeing any of the neighbors as scum, but at the end of the day feu's play combined with singer's play both make me lean singer as the scum of the two.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3232, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Honestly I'll be honest
Pick one or the other while readingvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3312, Feu et Vol wrote:VOTE: sad
there is absolutely no way he's town in any scumteam scenario.
I'm town hun.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 3316, Sugoku Sugoi wrote:Arthur is confirmed scum.
In post 3321, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm town hun.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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