Through the Looking-Glass [Game Over]

SleepyKrew · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:35 am

Aronis self-hammered as town in LYLO last game. Thus, Aronis does not get to make it to LYLO is this game. Now's the best time to take care of that. This is not RVS. I am advocating a policy lynch.
VOTE: Aronis

SleepyKrew · Post Post #36 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:21 am

Is Cho not publicly an alt yet? Should I not say who it is?
Sorry Aronis!
Not quite sure what to make of Cho. Wouldn't scum be more likely to read the sample PM?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:31 am

Whoa Marquis's wiki page is really informative
PEDIT: Last game, was the scum PT a neighborhood?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:33 am

I checked. Yes, scum PT was considered a hood last game.

PEDIT: People can be in more than one hood. And my comment about your wiki wasn't sarcasm. I learned the identity of two accounts that I've been curious about.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #46 (isolation #4) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:36 am

CORRECTION: The only place the scum PT was called a hood was in the PT itself. It was not a hood for role PM purposes.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:46 am

ns, talk to me.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #67 (isolation #6) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:00 am

In post 64, notscience wrote:About what?

The lack of trolling coming from marquis, aka his scum meta?

Him trying to pull the "oblivious townie" gig?

Does he ever troll as Cho though?
What do you make of him saying "no that's not a towntell" to me?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #68 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:02 am

In post 20, Cho wrote:A game is not defined by its moderator.

okay this was pretty trollolololzy

SleepyKrew · Post Post #93 (isolation #8) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:41 am

In post 73, Katsuki wrote:SK why are you not voting marquis?

Eh, why

are

you?

ns, talk to me plz

SleepyKrew · Post Post #102 (isolation #9) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:55 am

In post 94, notscience wrote:I answered your question

What else do you want to talk about

The only people who have posted much are me (anyone not townreading me atm is doing something wrong), Marquis (subtle trolling is noted), and Konowa who I think might be town.

Well now I want to understand your unvote.
I've posted as much as Konowa (now more than Konowa)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #103 (isolation #10) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:56 am

In post 100, Katsuki wrote:Actually nvm ignore the last two posts and carry on.

...You were serious about the format claim? wtf
Why did you think it was a good idea and why did you change your mind?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #105 (isolation #11) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:59 am

plz less vague

SleepyKrew · Post Post #108 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:04 am

In post 106, notscience wrote:Most of my vote was based on the premise that he wasn't trolling and that awkward sounding post.

I thought you didn't realize it was Marquis until your 9th post. Am I misinterpreting that?

Konowa, idk

SleepyKrew · Post Post #110 (isolation #13) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:08 am

In post 109, Konowa wrote:
In post 102, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 94, notscience wrote:I answered your question

What else do you want to talk about

The only people who have posted much are me (anyone not townreading me atm is doing something wrong), Marquis (subtle trolling is noted), and Konowa who I think might be town.

Well now I want to understand your unvote.
I've posted as much as Konowa (now more than Konowa)

Asking because this was extremely self-conscious, and can't ever remember you being self-conscious.

I thought it was odd he left me off because you and I had the same number of posts, and I was engaging him. I can see why you might think I was asking to be townread though.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #112 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:51 am

In post 33, notscience wrote:And that explains it.

Its an alt.

Then why did you make this post?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #113 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:51 am

Oh nvm you said it was an alt just not who it was

SleepyKrew · Post Post #115 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:53 am

How does him trolling negate the oblivious townie thing and the AtE?

PEDIT: hey I corrected myself didn't I

SleepyKrew · Post Post #119 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:58 am

Hey Katsuki I wanted clarification

In post 117, Cho wrote:
SleepyKrew
, I appreciate the effort you're putting in here. I'm just not sure how to read you now because it so strongly contradicts the image of you I've built up in my head.

Pretend I'm an alt

SleepyKrew · Post Post #123 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:00 am

In post 64, notscience wrote:The lack of trolling coming from marquis, aka his scum meta?

How often have you held the belief that Marquis not trolling = scum?

(Idr if Marquis was trolling or not in Quickness)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #125 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:02 am

In post 120, notscience wrote:Part of me might just be scared to be attacked again though.

Clarify please?

In post 121, Cho wrote:Point taken, if I understand your implication correctly.

I wasn't implying anything; I was trying to be witty

SleepyKrew · Post Post #129 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:03 am

In post 124, notscience wrote:Rather recent actually

idr who brought it up in xmen but they were right

Good job you just agreed with Titus
That's the answer I was expecting though. Which wasn't what I was hoping for. Darn.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #131 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:04 am

In post 126, Cho wrote:This is a problem that I should probably correct soon.

?

In post 127, notscience wrote:He knows where to put pressure to make me freak out

Do you think he'd to this if he was town?

In post 128, Cho wrote:I thought there was an implication along the lines of "look in the mirror", or something else hypocrisy-related.

That was the joke, yes.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #134 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:06 am

In post 132, Cho wrote:
In post 131, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 126, Cho wrote:This is a problem that I should probably correct soon.

?

The gap in my meta.

Ah. *Did* you troll in Quickness?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #138 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:08 am

In post 135, notscience wrote:
In post 131, SleepyKrew wrote:Do you think he'd to this if he was town?

I don't know.

In post 136, Cho wrote:
In post 134, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 132, Cho wrote:
In post 131, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 126, Cho wrote:This is a problem that I should probably correct soon.

?

The gap in my meta.

Ah. *Did* you troll in Quickness?

I explained my lack of trolling as owing a good game to Beast.

I thought that was your excuse in X-Men. I don't think you trolling or not was even brought up in Quickness.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #140 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:24 am

Salamence, can you link me to your past like 5 town games and 5 scum games?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #144 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:51 am

VOTE: Desp

SleepyKrew · Post Post #148 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:34 am

In post 145, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Empking

This is objectively the best lynch.

¿Porqué?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #149 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:35 am

*¿Por qué?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #158 (isolation #28) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 150, Cho wrote:
In post 7, Empking wrote:
Vote: Aro

FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.4

Empking [2] -
Cho, notscience

I was asking Nacho, but you go ahead and explain why that's scummy (and also why you haven't explained that before).

SleepyKrew · Post Post #160 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:41 pm

Froot Loop,

not

trolling was the scumtell.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #161 (isolation #30) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:43 pm

In post 154, Cho wrote:
In post 151, Froot Loop wrote:I had thought that the trolling was the scumtell.

Not quite, scum. There are many better reasons you can fake a scumread on me for.

That said, I'm completely comfortable with the Empking wagon, partially because it can compete with my own. Sorry folks, but I'm town, and getting mislynched on Day 1 isn't the plan.

Are you actually scumreading FL?
Why else are you comfortable with the Empking wagon?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #165 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:56 pm

In post 162, Cho wrote:It's scummy because... in hindsight, it isn't really, and I've done it before as town. I just didn't like the post at the time, I suppose.

Walk me through your thinking. Why didn't you like it at first?

In post 162, Cho wrote:And I didn't think it was necessary. There was a clear implication in how it was his only post, yet I voted him over all the other players I could have voted.

This = "it was obvious I thought his only post was scummy"
It != "it was obvious why that post was scummy"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #167 (isolation #32) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:00 pm

In post 162, Cho wrote:It's scummy because... in hindsight, it isn't really, and I've done it before as town. I just didn't like the post at the time, I suppose.

Walk me through your thinking. Why didn't you like it at first?

In post 162, Cho wrote:And I didn't think it was necessary. There was a clear implication in how it was his only post, yet I voted him over all the other players I could have voted.

This = "it was obvious I thought his only post was scummy"
It != "it was obvious why that post was scummy"

In post 163, Katsuki wrote:Where's my vote..

Vote: Cho

Could you stop ignoring me? This is my third time asking for you to clarify what you misremembered about title formats
(the answer is obvious, but it leads to the followup: why did you want a format claim?)
Also, why are you voting Cho?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #169 (isolation #33) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:02 pm

Cho, anything to say about Desperado?
I'll have more later.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #193 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:16 pm

temporarily back
The pronoun stuff is making me think Marquis is seeing how comfortable he is with a female pronoun (I think mastin did this with some alt before "coming out" so to speak as transgender)
Or maybe that's not what's happening

DV why are you townreading me?

Katsuki is intentionally ignoring me so that's fun

/bye again

SleepyKrew · Post Post #260 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:17 am

Guys I'm awake

SleepyKrew · Post Post #275 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:26 am

TD, does it bother you that I went from super engaged to "Hi I'm here but no actually doing things, don't pay attention to me la-de-da" ?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #278 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:28 am

In post 274, TiphaineDeath wrote:I am scumreading you because you have the mindset not of understanding the game and searching for scum, but of keeping pressure off yourself, thus the lack of actually reading the posts I referenced and not knowing the trap that was being set for you.

wait are you serious about calling her scum because you said DV's post instead of hers? whut

SleepyKrew · Post Post #284 (isolation #38) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:30 am

In post 279, notscience wrote:I'm going to just tune out TD's bins tunneling

Instead of trying to use it to read TD?

PEDIT: yeah but for a while I was doing the same "not contributing right now but still posting" thing

SleepyKrew · Post Post #285 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:31 am

In post 283, notscience wrote:TD are you intentionally pushing a playstyle case or are you jsut trying to look like busy tunneling town?

What happened to ignoring

SleepyKrew · Post Post #291 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:34 am

TD please explain what's scummy about not correcting the post number.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #294 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:34 am

In post 290, notscience wrote:
In post 274, TiphaineDeath wrote:because you have the mindset not of understanding the game and searching for scum, but of keeping pressure off yourself,

This is playstyle.

It's also wrong,

But it's playstyle.

Eh sometimes mindset is playstyle sometimes it actually is dependent on alignment

SleepyKrew · Post Post #301 (isolation #42) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:37 am

Can I just be a Nacho buddy irl?
Anyway I'm gonna go now and when I come back I'd like TD to have answered any outstanding questions I have (plus any average ones too, HEYO). I also want TD to link me to similar ragerants he's made as town before.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #306 (isolation #43) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:40 am

In post 303, Katsuki wrote:
In post 301, SleepyKrew wrote:Can I just be a Nacho buddy irl?

Only if you lynch him here. Bonus points if you help us throw someone into the pool.

He might get mad at me though D:

Yo TD if ns is making you that mad, ignore him for now.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #308 (isolation #44) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:41 am

In post 305, notscience wrote:Not making it any better for you~

Who are you voting again?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #311 (isolation #45) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:41 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Katsuki
bye for real guys hf

SleepyKrew · Post Post #312 (isolation #46) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:42 am

In post 309, Katsuki wrote:HE WON'T TRUST ME

Is "he" Nacho or me?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #313 (isolation #47) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:43 am

Ignore that
Pretend I'm not engaging with you anymore

SleepyKrew · Post Post #331 (isolation #48) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:53 am

OKAY I'M SERIOUSLY LEAVING AFTER THIS POST
The only non-fluff thing Katsuki has done is vote Cho (and I'm still not sure if that was simply because wagons are good or because of a scumread; Katsuki's ISO indicates both)
Then he abandons the Cho wagon, despite having an actual scumread, to do this Nacho shit
He doesn't even explain the scumread (or indicate it's a serious vote) until muffin shows up 200 posts later

SleepyKrew · Post Post #335 (isolation #49) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:54 am

In post 332, TiphaineDeath wrote:Katsuki, I think I've already caught two scum, you can take your fake daycop guilty and shove it.

I asked you for some meta

SleepyKrew · Post Post #347 (isolation #50) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:58 am

just throwing this out there before leaving (srsly I'm gonna leave):
muffin playing along with Katsuki right now reminds me of muffin helping Andrius and I spam the thread with hangman in LotR (we were scum, I think muffin was different scum or some scummy third party?)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #442 (isolation #51) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:05 am

In post 440, TiphaineDeath wrote:And for your information I don't give a shit about your "FacePalming," I'm right, you're wrong, and you are incapable of understanding that even when I lay it out before you in the simplest terms humanely possible.

You sure seemed to care when you got all angry about people not listening to you

notscience please just tell him why/how your mind changed (iirc you already said it once so just quoting that should be fine)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #445 (isolation #52) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:05 am

Reminder to self: Nati meta

SleepyKrew · Post Post #447 (isolation #53) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:06 am

In post 443, Katsuki wrote:BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

You forgot to specify whose blood

SleepyKrew · Post Post #448 (isolation #54) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:06 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #486 (isolation #55) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:40 am

Kats, I'm not deciding whether not to bus or not. I'm clearly not bussing ^_^
I'm sure you can get a Nacho lynch without me.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #487 (isolation #56) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:41 am

In post 479, Cho wrote:Because she's probably trying to sell a daycop-guilty gambit as real.

Aren't you voting Nacho

SleepyKrew · Post Post #493 (isolation #57) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:42 am

In post 490, Katsuki wrote:
In post 486, SleepyKrew wrote:Kats, I'm not deciding whether not to bus or not. I'm clearly not bussing ^_^
I'm sure you can get a Nacho lynch without me.

Ok then sit tight it'll take a day to get your guillotine set up.

You should investigate me tomorrow
Plz nobody millerizeify me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #523 (isolation #58) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:20 pm

In post 517, notscience wrote:Rc is town, cool.

I thought it was a pretty scummy vote but I'm not going to push it without flips.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #526 (isolation #59) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:38 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Desperado

SleepyKrew · Post Post #531 (isolation #60) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 529, Bins wrote:wait so it is legit

In post 530, Bins wrote:i hate you guys already

Why would you hate a guilty?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #534 (isolation #61) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:44 pm

UNVOTE:
I'm still not going to bus Nacho, but I'm not going to stand in your way either.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #535 (isolation #62) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:44 pm

Yeah, lots of people didn't believe it, myself included.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #541 (isolation #63) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:50 pm

In post 536, Bins wrote:that's why i think im confused

i didn't believe because i thought it was jokes
you didnt believe it because you think she's scum?

I thought Kats was scum because I thought the guilty was fake, not the other way around.

In post 537, Bins wrote:
In post 534, SleepyKrew wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm still not going to bus Nacho, but I'm not going to stand in your way either.

Who is this addressed to?

Mostly Katsuki, but since you're voting Nacho you can envision Chris Pratt's eyes staring at you as well

SleepyKrew · Post Post #544 (isolation #64) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:52 pm

In post 539, Katsuki wrote:SK, what about Nati's statement made you decide to turnaround on your trust of my claim?

It was Brian + Nati + having some time away from the thread + not playing Ace Attorney while also doing this

SleepyKrew · Post Post #546 (isolation #65) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:54 pm

Ésto*

I think

SleepyKrew · Post Post #547 (isolation #66) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:55 pm

Or is it Estó
idr
I should get back to my math homework

SleepyKrew · Post Post #549 (isolation #67) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:56 pm

You seem to have dropped a tilde ~

SleepyKrew · Post Post #552 (isolation #68) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:58 pm

Not really

PEDIT: just seeing more people taking it seriously (Nati and Brian) made me realize that I should take it seriously too

SleepyKrew · Post Post #553 (isolation #69) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:01 pm

What *is* your reputation btw?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #555 (isolation #70) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:06 pm

In post 554, Froot Loop wrote:You weren't taking it seriously before? You were really active at the beginning of the game.

I thought Katsuki was trolling. What does my activity have to do with anything?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #561 (isolation #71) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:11 pm

...what
But lots of activity could mean lots of fluff
*Especially* at the beginning
(though that's not the case in this specific example but whatever)
How are me taking the game seriously and me believing Katsuki related? I was seriously scumreading him for a bit, so it's not like I ignored the guilty.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #566 (isolation #72) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:14 pm

In post 563, zMuffinMan wrote:aggravated algebra

for someone who claims intimate knowledge of fakegod's mid meta, you're surprisingly dim-witted if you're assuming this is a 4scum game

what
But last game
I thought FG made a point of nerfing town so there could only be three scum, meaning that 4 is a distinct possibility in a less anti-town setup

SleepyKrew · Post Post #569 (isolation #73) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:18 pm

In post 567, Katsuki wrote:
In post 561, SleepyKrew wrote:...what
But lots of activity could mean lots of fluff
*Especially* at the beginning
(though that's not the case in this specific example but whatever)
How are me taking the game seriously and me believing Katsuki related? I was seriously scumreading him for a bit, so it's not like I ignored the guilty.

Ok on one hand you say you think I was trolling yet you also maintained a scumread on me. I'm not seeing how from your perspective, the views of others believing my claim leading to you taking it seriously would affect your read on me.

I thought you were trolling
I thought you would eventually go "lol guys it's fake" at an inconvenient time
I thought that you were using it as an excuse to not actually do anything
That is why I scumread you
Now I believe you
And I don't think you're a Mafia Day Cop

SleepyKrew · Post Post #572 (isolation #74) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:19 pm

In post 568, Katsuki wrote:
In post 565, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 513, Katsuki wrote:
In post 504, RedCoyote wrote:VOTE: Nachomamma8 due to Kat's claim. If Nacho is town, we can lynch Kat tomorrow.

This is a terrible post.

Why don't you like this post? I thought it was alright.

Gut.

Pit fell out of my stomach while reading that post.

I didn't like how he doesn't entertain the "Katsuki is trolling" possibility whatsoever, seeing as how many people weren't believing you

SleepyKrew · Post Post #575 (isolation #75) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:22 pm

In post 571, Katsuki wrote:
In post 553, SleepyKrew wrote:What *is* your reputation btw?

If you don't know then it's not important. Plus you gave a different answer than what I was expecting anyways.

*curiosity intensifies*

SleepyKrew · Post Post #576 (isolation #76) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:23 pm

In post 574, Froot Loop wrote:Yeah, maybe *worthwhile* activity at the beginning of a game, actually commenting and investigating, which is what I thought you were doing at the beginning of this game.

I just saw the comment about becoming serious and thought it was weird because I remembered you being especially active at the beginning of the game so I said something.

Yeah my activity and seriousness are going to fluctuate more than usual because I just got Dual Destinies, sorry
Keep on townreading me or whatever though

SleepyKrew · Post Post #581 (isolation #77) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:32 pm

In post 578, Katsuki wrote:But anyways, back to this game.

Oh right. Earlier, you were only pushing the Nacho wagon. Now, you're also trying to interact with me to understand my mindset (I'm assuming you're doing this for hunting purposes). Why the sudden interest in not-Nacho people? Has my reaction been that much different from everyone else's?

PEDIT: Oh cool why'd I get crossed off
It's not a hit list is it? Am I already dead and just don't know it?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #584 (isolation #78) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:35 pm

notscience, in your next post, I'd like your Katsuki and Nacho reads with reasoning por favor and danke

SleepyKrew · Post Post #586 (isolation #79) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:38 pm

In post 585, Bins wrote:What made you think Nacho was town given the fact he only has two posts?

Is that at me? Nothing. I just thought Katsuki didn't actually have a guilty.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #593 (isolation #80) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:44 pm

In post 588, Katsuki wrote:
In post 581, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 578, Katsuki wrote:But anyways, back to this game.

Oh right. Earlier, you were only pushing the Nacho wagon. Now, you're also trying to interact with me to understand my mindset (I'm assuming you're doing this for hunting purposes). Why the sudden interest in not-Nacho people? Has my reaction been that much different from everyone else's?

PEDIT: Oh cool why'd I get crossed off
It's not a hit list is it? Am I already dead and just don't know it?

Not-Nacho people? It's only been you. I was getting ready to set up the case for your lynch before pg22/23.

So why am I the only not-Nacho that you've been interested in?
Could you walk me through your read of me and how it's changed?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #595 (isolation #81) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:45 pm

In post 590, Konowa wrote:Doesn't refute the fact that I know more than you at this moment.

I want to call this a scumclaim but I shouldn't

SleepyKrew · Post Post #604 (isolation #82) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:53 pm

Katsuki plz

SleepyKrew · Post Post #608 (isolation #83) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:55 pm

In post 593, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 588, Katsuki wrote:
In post 581, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 578, Katsuki wrote:But anyways, back to this game.

Oh right. Earlier, you were only pushing the Nacho wagon. Now, you're also trying to interact with me to understand my mindset (I'm assuming you're doing this for hunting purposes). Why the sudden interest in not-Nacho people? Has my reaction been that much different from everyone else's?

PEDIT: Oh cool why'd I get crossed off
It's not a hit list is it? Am I already dead and just don't know it?

Not-Nacho people? It's only been you. I was getting ready to set up the case for your lynch before pg22/23.

So why am I the only not-Nacho that you've been interested in?
Could you walk me through your read of me and how it's changed?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #615 (isolation #84) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:58 pm

In post 610, Katsuki wrote:
In post 608, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 593, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 588, Katsuki wrote:
In post 581, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 578, Katsuki wrote:But anyways, back to this game.

Oh right. Earlier, you were only pushing the Nacho wagon. Now, you're also trying to interact with me to understand my mindset (I'm assuming you're doing this for hunting purposes). Why the sudden interest in not-Nacho people? Has my reaction been that much different from everyone else's?

PEDIT: Oh cool why'd I get crossed off
It's not a hit list is it? Am I already dead and just don't know it?

Not-Nacho people? It's only been you. I was getting ready to set up the case for your lynch before pg22/23.

So why am I the only not-Nacho that you've been interested in?
Could you walk me through your read of me and how it's changed?

read post you quoted

It doesn't really answer what I'm asking, which is why I asked. If you don't wanna answer just say so and I'll go back to my corner.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #616 (isolation #85) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:59 pm

Konowa
Katsuki and Nacho reads with reasoning GO

SleepyKrew · Post Post #619 (isolation #86) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:01 pm

Froot Loop
Reads on Katsuki and Nacho with reasoning GOGO

SleepyKrew · Post Post #634 (isolation #87) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:28 pm

I don't see anything about a Katsuki read in that post Froot Loop

SleepyKrew · Post Post #635 (isolation #88) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:28 pm

In post 633, Katsuki wrote:You expect useful contributions from confscum? :/

He could claim Miller!

SleepyKrew · Post Post #641 (isolation #89) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:36 pm

In post 637, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 635, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 633, Katsuki wrote:You expect useful contributions from confscum? :/

He could claim Miller!

If he claims anything resembling a miller or friendly neighbor, I'm power lynching him.

wtf why would you power lynch a claimed friendly neighbor

SleepyKrew · Post Post #646 (isolation #90) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:44 pm

that slippery lemon

SleepyKrew · Post Post #650 (isolation #91) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:09 pm

In post 649, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 634, SleepyKrew wrote:I don't see anything about a Katsuki read in that post Froot Loop

Ok, I have some questions about Katsuki's play but he's claimed cop so there's nothing much more. Whether or not his cop-claim is true will have a big effect on my read of him and I can't make a decision on that until nacho's said something.

Here let me tell you what Nacho will say: "Katsuki is lying" or "I'm a miller"
What do those do to your Katsuki read?
Obviously the veracity of his claim will affect your read. When I'm asking for a read on him, I'm essentially asking if you believe the claim or not.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #653 (isolation #92) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:15 pm

VOTE: Nacho
L-1

SleepyKrew · Post Post #659 (isolation #93) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:26 pm

In post 616, SleepyKrew wrote:Konowa
Katsuki and Nacho reads with reasoning GO

SleepyKrew · Post Post #661 (isolation #94) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:31 pm

I saw all caps and bold and an unvote and I nearly lost my shit
Good thing I actually read the words ^_^

SleepyKrew · Post Post #677 (isolation #95) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:47 pm

In post 662, Katsuki wrote:Were you expecting LOLdayvig?

I should sleep though head so heavy

I was expecting lol fakecop

SleepyKrew · Post Post #681 (isolation #96) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:49 pm

In post 666, Konowa wrote:
In post 659, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 616, SleepyKrew wrote:Konowa
Katsuki and Nacho reads with reasoning GO

Nacho is VLA
And Kats is being Kats, I guess.

This is the weakest, most non committal post I've ever seen
Konowa maybe you couldn't read me this game bc you're scum

SleepyKrew · Post Post #682 (isolation #97) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:51 pm

My hood has Nacho and Empking
rip Nacho

SleepyKrew · Post Post #686 (isolation #98) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:58 pm

muffin asked if there was any reason not to and there really isn't so

SleepyKrew · Post Post #717 (isolation #99) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:04 am

In post 691, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 650, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 649, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 634, SleepyKrew wrote:I don't see anything about a Katsuki read in that post Froot Loop

Ok, I have some questions about Katsuki's play but he's claimed cop so there's nothing much more. Whether or not his cop-claim is true will have a big effect on my read of him and I can't make a decision on that until nacho's said something.

Here let me tell you what Nacho will say: "Katsuki is lying" or "I'm a miller"
What do those do to your Katsuki read?
Obviously the veracity of his claim will affect your read. When I'm asking for a read on him, I'm essentially asking if you believe the claim or not.

Why do we need to lynch him now? There are many possibilities of things that can happen, why remove them from the equation by lynching him immediately? I don't feel comfortable lynching someone who has posted twice in this game. That has no implication on my read or whatever of Katsuki. Nacho is coming back tomorrow. The only people who benefit from a quicklynch are scum, whether or not nacho is scum.

um no a scum lynch is pretty much best case scenario

SleepyKrew · Post Post #718 (isolation #100) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:06 am

wow ns everything you've said recently is terrible

Kats, did you get all the info you wanted that quickly?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #722 (isolation #101) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:22 am

Why are you ignoring Daycop
Plz give a better reason than "FakeGod's never used a regular Daycop before and he never will!!!!!"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #725 (isolation #102) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:24 am

The AP wagon happened because the Feu hood decided to keep a secret they shouldn't have
Do you think that's happening here
If so, who is keeping the secret?
PS "in a neighborhood" is incorrect

SleepyKrew · Post Post #726 (isolation #103) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:25 am

In post 723, notscience wrote:There's also the gambler's fallacy of "does Katsuki draw 2 roles that are both used during the day, already a rarity, in back to back games?"

Yeah it's a fallacy so why are you pretending it matters

SleepyKrew · Post Post #729 (isolation #104) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:25 am

In post 723, notscience wrote:Because it's a shitty way to try and get an lolwagon on nacho and fuck this game over AGAIN by people being fucking retarded, just like that last one, and I'm intent on not letting some fucking joke do that.

Why do you not believe the claim

SleepyKrew · Post Post #731 (isolation #105) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:27 am

In post 724, Cho wrote:There was a hidden counterclaim driving that.

whut
Also you're aware that we're not "driving the wagon up a bit", we're waiting for a hammer, right?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #740 (isolation #106) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:34 am

Why would you want to give scumNacho time to post

WHAT THE FUCK CHO (btw answer my thing in 731)

Back to ns, if your reasoning includes "I know it's a fallacy but", you should just stop

SleepyKrew · Post Post #741 (isolation #107) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:34 am

TD what that notscience is saying makes any sense

SleepyKrew · Post Post #744 (isolation #108) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:37 am

Sorry Nacho ilu

PEDIT: lesbian parent puppy dog eyes

SleepyKrew · Post Post #748 (isolation #109) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:39 am

And Katsuki revoted
This is at least the third time Cho has been oblivious and I'm beginning to think it's to add on to the original oblivious townie act

SleepyKrew · Post Post #753 (isolation #110) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:43 am

When did I townread you

SleepyKrew · Post Post #757 (isolation #111) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:48 am

Yeah I really should pick up my stuff from earlier shouldn't I. Eh I'll do it later. But yeah I wasn't scumreading you but I also wasn't townreading you.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #765 (isolation #112) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:22 am

This is very simple. We have guaranteed scum among these two.
I think it's likelier that Katsuki is telling the truth.
But rest assured, a Nacho townflip = a dead cupcake

But SleepyKrew, what if Kats says the guilty wasn't real!

Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #767 (isolation #113) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:24 am

In post 766, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 765, SleepyKrew wrote:Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

No, he's not.

You think townKatsuki would actually let your lynch happen on a fake guilty?
UNVOTE: btw

SleepyKrew · Post Post #768 (isolation #114) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:29 am

In post 743, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 740, SleepyKrew wrote:Why would you want to give scumNacho time to post

And anyone who ever posted a line of this any variant of it loses some of my respect for them as a player.

I'm sorry Nacho it was a joke and then I forgot it was a joke and that's honestly the honest truth plz forgive

SleepyKrew · Post Post #773 (isolation #115) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:32 am

In post 770, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 767, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 766, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 765, SleepyKrew wrote:Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

No, he's not.

You think townKatsuki would actually let your lynch happen on a fake guilty?
UNVOTE: btw

Why are you unvoting?

Because you should be given the chance to talk, and L-2 with muffin still out there felt uncomfortable.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #774 (isolation #116) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:33 am

squeeee

SleepyKrew · Post Post #776 (isolation #117) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:34 am

In post 775, DeasVail wrote:
In post 773, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 770, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 767, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 766, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 765, SleepyKrew wrote:Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

No, he's not.

You think townKatsuki would actually let your lynch happen on a fake guilty?
UNVOTE: btw

Why are you unvoting?

Because you should be given the chance to talk, and L-2 with muffin still out there felt uncomfortable.

Why didn't you unvote before he got here?

Because I was dumb and didn't want to give him the chance to talk. Which was dumb and bad and wrong plz don't ever listen to me.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #777 (isolation #118) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:35 am

I'm going to say I feel for Katsuki's sweet frosty wiles

SleepyKrew · Post Post #780 (isolation #119) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:40 am

In post 778, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 767, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 766, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 765, SleepyKrew wrote:Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

No, he's not.

You think townKatsuki would actually let your lynch happen on a fake guilty?
UNVOTE: btw

Yes, he would.
The reaction test only works if there's actual danger of the lynch going through: I doubt he'd retract it until the very, very last moment.

I took putting you at L-1 and telling muffin to hammer to be that moment. *shrug* it'll happen soon enough

In post 779, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 765, SleepyKrew wrote:This is very simple. We have guaranteed scum among these two.
I think it's likelier that Katsuki is telling the truth.
But rest assured, a Nacho townflip = a dead cupcake

But SleepyKrew, what if Kats says the guilty wasn't real!

Kats put Nacho at L-1 with muffin off the wagon, meaning Katsuki essentially said "I am 1000% okay with the lynch happening right now". He's past the point of no return.

Are we in the position of deciding if nacho or Katsuki is telling the truth? I think it's relevant if Katsuki's action isn't likely as scum.

We're not going to know anything for sure without a flip. You're allowed to have thoughts that aren't based on concrete evidence, yknow. That's how reads work.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #783 (isolation #120) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:45 am

Are you going to give reads?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #795 (isolation #121) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:23 pm

What happened to the guilty

SleepyKrew · Post Post #797 (isolation #122) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:29 pm

I was talking specifically to muffin but I'm curious as to why you're saying that with such certainty without Katuski responding

SleepyKrew · Post Post #800 (isolation #123) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:34 pm

Because of how far he pushed the wagon.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #802 (isolation #124) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:38 pm

...are you also using gamblers fallacy?
Yeah but after that he put Nacho at L-1 and told muffin to hammer so

SleepyKrew · Post Post #809 (isolation #125) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:10 pm

VOTE: Katsuki

SleepyKrew · Post Post #811 (isolation #126) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:13 pm

I already did.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #813 (isolation #127) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:15 pm

In post 808, Katsuki wrote:I REALLY wanted to GO FOR GOLD too.

Explain this statement.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #815 (isolation #128) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:20 pm

I'm not baking muffins until the cupcake's done.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #816 (isolation #129) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:20 pm

Dat pun dough

SleepyKrew · Post Post #819 (isolation #130) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:22 pm

In post 813, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 808, Katsuki wrote:I REALLY wanted to GO FOR GOLD too.

Explain this statement.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #820 (isolation #131) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:23 pm

There are multiple entries on that page please learn to scroll down

SleepyKrew · Post Post #824 (isolation #132) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:47 pm

In post 822, Katsuki wrote:
In post 819, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 813, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 808, Katsuki wrote:I REALLY wanted to GO FOR GOLD too.

Explain this statement.

It's quite self-explanatory.

I've already demonstrated how dumb I am so just explain it for me.

SleepyKrew · Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:17 pm

How did you plan on figuring out his alignment

SleepyKrew · Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:38 pm

Answer the question

SleepyKrew · Post Post #842 (isolation #135) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:42 am

Fruit Luip, are you always like this when you get scumread/voted?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #846 (isolation #136) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:11 am

What's your read on Katsuki, Empking?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #847 (isolation #137) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:11 am

In post 845, zMuffinMan wrote:also i've only played one game with froot loop so i'm nowhere near certain if this means anything, but this is totally different from ffery's game in terms of approach to the game, behaviour, etc

(even before the day cop stuff, the play was entirely different)

Would she get jumpy at the slightest expressed suspicion?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #853 (isolation #138) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:04 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #864 (isolation #139) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:29 am

In post 861, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 857, Cho wrote:My gut told me the daycop was probably fake

your gut is pretty insightful

i was convinced it was real the whole time

We really need sarcasm tags.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #867 (isolation #140) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:31 am

But you italicized the wrong word,

milady

SleepyKrew · Post Post #879 (isolation #141) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:12 am

In post 870, Empking wrote:
In post 846, SleepyKrew wrote:What's your read on Katsuki, Empking?

He's been a big part of the day and nobody really seems to find him scummy. I'm using the wisdom of the crowds to call him town.

That's stupid and also two votes isn't "nobody".

SleepyKrew · Post Post #887 (isolation #142) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:16 am

In post 874, Katsuki wrote:
In post 864, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 861, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 857, Cho wrote:My gut told me the daycop was probably fake

your gut is pretty insightful

i was convinced it was real the whole time

We really need sarcasm tags.

So you didn't believe the claim until it was convenient to (when it started to gain traction), and pushed it like you believed it the whole time when the wagon was close to a lynch.

If Nacho really is town then you're for sure scum.

Yeah the traction made me rethink my thinking but if you read my posts once I come off my "omg there's actually a daycop so yeah I'll vote Nacho let's lynch this scumfuck"-high, you'll see that while I beloved you, I still had my doubts. You're right that this looks bad though. I thought I was being dumb and overcorrected.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #888 (isolation #143) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:17 am

believed*

SleepyKrew · Post Post #892 (isolation #144) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:20 am

In post 877, RedCoyote wrote:SK, am I guilty of wanting to "punish" Kat for not playing to my standards? Are you?

Do you mean wanting to lynch him for faking? Well you said you'd lynch him if Nacho flipped town, and you didn't seem to entertain the possibility of the guilty being fake. I'm guilty of something very similar, with one major (IMO) difference, and that's that I wouldn't want to lynch Kats if he'd have taken his foot off the gas earlier.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #895 (isolation #145) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:23 am

In post 826, SleepyKrew wrote:How did you plan on figuring out his alignment

In post 830, SleepyKrew wrote:Answer the question

Katsuki

SleepyKrew · Post Post #896 (isolation #146) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:23 am

In post 894, Katsuki wrote:Right you never did finish humoring me santy, why are you voting me.

Answer my question first.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #899 (isolation #147) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:28 am

This is not a hard question. I need an actual answer so I can evaluate if I like my vote or not.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #903 (isolation #148) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:32 am

In post 901, Katsuki wrote:@SK: Fineeeeeeeeee... the same considerations that would go into any cop result.

...what? There was no cop result. But just to be clear, you're saying you'd read him based off his reaction to the cop result, right?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #905 (isolation #149) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:33 am

muffin I'm gonna nominate you for sarspasm

SleepyKrew · Post Post #909 (isolation #150) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:54 am

In post 903, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 901, Katsuki wrote:@SK: Fineeeeeeeeee... the same considerations that would go into any cop result.

...what? There was no cop result. But just to be clear, you're saying you'd read him based off his reaction to the cop result, right?

Katsuki if you actually care about why I'm voting you, you'll answer this
but I don't think you really do

SleepyKrew · Post Post #912 (isolation #151) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:41 am

He answered the initial question after some pestering. I'm sure I'll get an answer to my follow-up eventually.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #914 (isolation #152) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:44 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #924 (isolation #153) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:14 pm

Well then answer the followup

SleepyKrew · Post Post #925 (isolation #154) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:14 pm

btw you trying to protect the thread from getting spammed up is hilarious and yes I made this two separate posts on purpose

SleepyKrew · Post Post #927 (isolation #155) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:21 pm

pot kettle answer my fucking question

SleepyKrew · Post Post #931 (isolation #156) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:44 pm

In post 903, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 901, Katsuki wrote:@SK: Fineeeeeeeeee... the same considerations that would go into any cop result.

...what? There was no cop result. But just to be clear, you're saying you'd read him based off his reaction to the cop result, right?

I'm going to go ezmode and assume your answer to this is yes, in which case I'll type up my case and thoughts and other things tomorrow

SleepyKrew · Post Post #940 (isolation #157) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:34 am

In post 938, Empking wrote:It seems completely reasonless

It isn't.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #944 (isolation #158) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:14 am

Emping I'd like you to respond to the suspicion on you that some have expressed.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #948 (isolation #159) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:12 am

In post 742, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have a small scumread on Empking for his "oh woe is me, i don't get to play w/Nacho but role information is role information"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #950 (isolation #160) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:47 am

In post 949, Froot Loop wrote:Sleepy, I'm not sure. His nacho voting was bad but he's been moving things along.

Didn't you have me as your second strongest lean-town, even after I voted Nacho?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #953 (isolation #161) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:07 am

In post 951, Froot Loop wrote:I didn't mean that list to be in order but yeah, I think you're town at the moment or at least you're doing things that are helping the town.

Oh okay I wasn't second, I was top 3. How come you didn't mention my bad Nacho vote until now?

SleepyKrew · Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:13 am

ok so I'm really tired from today so I'll do my thing tomorrow
not stalling I swear

SleepyKrew · Post Post #963 (isolation #163) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:44 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #966 (isolation #164) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:39 am

In post 965, Salamence20 wrote:Not interested.

Am I a townread now or still null?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #969 (isolation #165) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:18 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #972 (isolation #166) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:21 am

You're already voting me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #974 (isolation #167) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:22 am

Later today

SleepyKrew · Post Post #977 (isolation #168) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:49 am

Oh I miscounted

SleepyKrew · Post Post #981 (isolation #169) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:58 am

Okay my next post will actually be important and not filler

SleepyKrew · Post Post #986 (isolation #170) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:27 am

In post 982, Empking wrote:
In post 981, SleepyKrew wrote:
Okay my next post will actually be important and not filler

Will it involve you claiming? (That's a genuine question; not a rhetorical one which I admit would share its phrasing.)

If someone gives intent to hammer.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #988 (isolation #171) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:50 am

In post 972, SleepyKrew wrote:You're already voting me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #990 (isolation #172) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:08 am

If you do that, all you'll be doing is proving that you don't actually care about my claim and don't want me to write my case on you (because I'm big and scary and you fear me).

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:53 am

In post 983, Katsuki wrote:It will probably talk about why my lack of answering will affect his read in any way when he already deems me the best vote prior to it.

I was voting you because I assumed the answer to "how did you plan on reading Nacho?" was "via his reaction to the guilty". I later decided to let you answer; you chose not to, so I'm sticking with the obvious assumption.
First off, faking a guilty, and persisting in this fake guilty, can easily draw a Cop counterclaim.
Second, and more importantly, I have a problem with his target. Nacho. His plan was to read Nacho based on his reaction to the guilty. Because Nacho is the type of player that can't fake a town reaction, right? Yeah no. If you wanted to generate reactions while also seeing if someone responded to a guilty on them in a scummy way, you should have gone after a weaker player. Nacho is a strong player though, and that makes him a threat. Wouldn't getting him lynched be great? The wagon reached L-1 three times (once put there by yours truly). After the second time, muffin unvoted. Guess who put Nacho back at L-1 and called for a hammer, just like after I made my L-1 vote? Katsuki. (Katsuki had previously unvoted because there were ~things~ he wanted to "discuss". Guess how many things he discussed before revoting!) Nacho arrives. "If I'm lynched, Katsuki dies." Then Katsuki decides to unvote! And his read on Nacho is a nice big idk.
So essentially, riding a fake guilty on Nacho to D1 is scummy because it opens the chance for a cc, it has the very real chance of lynching a strong player, and it targets said strong player instead of a weak player who would give a more meaningful reaction to a guilty.
I think Kats said at some point that he did it to generate reactions and make D1 not useless, which is bullshit because we were already having meaningful discussions before he decided to fake the guilty.
It bothers me a little that Kats isn't trying to get muffin to vote me, but idk if that's actually relevant.

In post 624, Katsuki wrote:
In post 615, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 610, Katsuki wrote:
In post 608, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 593, SleepyKrew wrote:But anyways, back to this game.
Oh right. Earlier, you were only pushing the Nacho wagon. Now, you're also trying to interact with me to understand my mindset (I'm assuming you're doing this for hunting purposes). Why the sudden interest in not-Nacho people? Has my reaction been that much different from everyone else's?

PEDIT: Oh cool why'd I get crossed off
It's not a hit list is it? Am I already dead and just don't know it?

Not-Nacho people? It's only been you. I was getting ready to set up the case for your lynch before pg22/23.
So why am I the only not-Nacho that you've been interested in?
Could you walk me through your read of me and how it's changed?

read post you quoted

It doesn't really answer what I'm asking, which is why I asked. If you don't wanna answer just say so and I'll go back to my corner.

Eh.

Let's say gut. Plus 22/23. I'm too lazy to waste time on this though, unless I start scumreading you again.

Hey you're scumreading me again

In post 874, Katsuki wrote:
In post 864, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 861, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 857, Cho wrote:My gut told me the daycop was probably fake

your gut is pretty insightful

i was convinced it was real the whole time

We really need sarcasm tags.

So you didn't believe the claim until it was convenient to (when it started to gain traction), and pushed it like you believed it the whole time when the wagon was close to a lynch.

If Nacho really is town then you're for sure scum.

It's funny because he started townreading me when I stopped opposing his claim, and didn't say anything when I voted Nacho.
He also didn't vote me until my wagon started getting momentum. In fact, it was his vote that made my wagon exceed the wagon on his previous vote (Froot). His scumread was so strong that he was willing to abandon muffin to vote me, but only if 3 other people did first

god I really hope that's coherent
I think I refer to Katsuki both as "you" and in the third person, but I don't think it's confusing? Let me know if anything needs clarifying.

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:56 am

I'm also going to throw out that Salamence never provided the meta I asked for, but I doubt that I'd get to look at it the way I wanted before lynch/deadline anyway now.

I really don't mind this lynch because my thoughts pertaining to the guilty were really inconsistent and definitely looked fake and opportunistic. I might even support this wagon if it was on anyone else.

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:00 am

Also still need to look at Nati. Throw in Desp and muffin too. Brian is lurking pretty hard. More later(?)

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:01 am

In post 1003, Katsuki wrote:lol that's a lot of revised storytelling and I'm glad I hammered.

Prove me wrong with specifics and I'll claim Masons with you.

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:01 am

Oh that's really self-serving
I'll claim you're a Friendly Neighbor

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:03 am

In post 1006, SleepyKrew wrote:Prove me wrong with specifics

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:00 pm

In post 1014, Natirasha wrote:VOTE: Froot Loop

Well hello there
You're probably going to respond with something coy
So I'm just letting you know there's an implied question(s) in this post

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:56 pm

Salamence stop avoiding me

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:23 pm

That sounds like an out of game influence to me

(I almost offered a sig/avatar/location bet earlier thank Hercules I didn't)

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:29 pm

And I was obviously being serious?
(though I've seen modkills for jokingly offering an illegal bet)

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:29 pm

OH GAME RELEVANT
ns did I miss anything in my Katsuki case?

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:22 pm

You could try doublevoting again.

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:59 pm

I'm gonna claim if I'm still L-1 when the countdown hits two days.

SleepyKrew · Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:02 pm

Oh but I'm not L-1 anymore thanks Nati.
*I'll claim if I still look like the only viable lynch when the countdown hits 2 days

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:29 am

I read last game. I knew format didn't matter. Kats was in last game. That's why I wanted to know why he wanted a format claim.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:32 am

In post 1071, SleepyKrew wrote:I read last game. I knew format didn't matter. Kats was in last game. That's why I wanted to know why he wanted a format claim.

Also, my first post was trying to policy lynch Aronis for what he did in the last game, so obviously I'd read it.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:35 am

If by "ok" you mean I'll still win then ok.
I'd like your opinion of the format claim thing now that I cleared that up.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:40 am

Your title is either bolded, italicized, or underlined. It doesn't actually matter.

PEDIT: I wanted to see how you typically handle early game.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:41 am

In post 1079, DeasVail wrote:This post only makes me feel worse man.

Also I really doubt I'm not getting lynched, so just pretend you read me solidly as town so you can brag when I flip.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:42 am

I don't think I'd describe RC as mean or noncaring in PF's game.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:44 am

In post 140, SleepyKrew wrote:Salamence, can you link me to your past like 5 town games and 5 scum games?

link
5 each
Don't bother doing it now though.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:46 am

In post 1086, DeasVail wrote:But what about if you flip scum and I'm just that stupid guy?

Then you get to enjoy a scumflip?

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:46 am

DV would not enjoy my scumflip
Meaning DV isn't town
Ergo DV is scum

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:52 am

In post 1091, Konowa wrote:Zero sense, SK.

What were you referring to?

In post 1095, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1078, SleepyKrew wrote:If by "ok" you mean I'll still win then ok.

Why did you post this like this?

Because you're trying to reassure me, but my lynch is probably going to happen, so you must be reassuring me that my alignment (whatever it is) will win.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:56 am

In post 1097, Konowa wrote:Post #1089. Maybe it's not zero sense, but more null sense would make more sense.

Dude it was a joke
I will never use the word "Ergo" in on mafiascum unless I'm being facetious
(and after a quick search, apparently that was the first time I've used it)

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:58 am

In post 1098, DeasVail wrote:Oh no. I'm asking for you to reassure me. I want to think you're town so that I can scream at everyone to stop lynching you to no avail. This weird state of sort of thinking you're town but not being at all confident about it sucks.

But what I did was really bad and scummy. The suspicion of me isn't going to go away unless Nacho wastes an investigate on me or something. If I'm allowed to live now, I'll probably get lynched anyway at a more critical juncture. So instead of reassuring you that I'm town (how am I supposed to do this anyway? AtE flailing? No thanks), I'll reassure you that my lynch is okay.

SleepyKrew · Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:59 am

In post 1102, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 1099, SleepyKrew wrote:I will never use the word "Ergo" in on mafiascum unless I'm being facetious

i use it all the time and i dont know what facetious means but im guessing it means im a dickhead or something

in which case fuck you, intent to hammer

I learned the word facetious on MS ^_^
btw I use ergo in real life to sound smart
But not here. The people here know better.