Super Dangan Ronpa 2 Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Slandaar]

I don't count lyncher as scum sorry TSQ.

Ignoring that I'm referencing 2 games, huh?

Same applies to SK.

Good job.

[Slandaar]

lyncher and sk are 3rd party obviously.

If you found some amazing evidence to the contrary you probably should have linked it instead of just pretend it exists.

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OK guys here is the definitive version of Slandaar and Varsoon. Vote who you deem appropriate. I am sure Varsoon will respond with more lies and nonsense which I won't be responding to because it has trashed the thread as I have accused him of before.

This is heavily cut down to be fairly concise but you will get the gist.

VOTE: Varsoon

Where did I use meta knowledge to lynch Saki?

My very first argument where I vote Varsoon is saying he is lying/misrepping me hard.

I see you also failed to show my meta arguments.

Varsoon failed to show argument (he is lying) this will be a prominent theme throughout.

You will need to show this.

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And this.

I mean everyone knows it is just made up nonsense.

He is inventing arguments. He is scum.

The made up arguments

Where did she read me scum which you claimed Varsoon?

More lies from Varsoon.

Oh and don't be intimidated just provide the quotes requested. They exist, right?

INTERMISSION TSQ MAKING AN APPEARANCE TO DEFEND VARSOONS LIES

(you can skip this bit for now return to it tomorrow)

Spoiler:

HE GAVE YOU THE FUCKING POST NUMBERS FFS.

No he didn't not for what is required. How about you match them up with what I have asked hm?

Lies and slandaar.

TSQ is just not reading it's OK I am sure the rest of the town will force you to actually produce. I mean it's easy if it exists eh?

Why are you writing a wall saying nothing instead of producing what is requested?

Actually I want 4 quotes.

But you seem to be trying your hardest to avoid producing.

You have said numerous things which are blatantly untrue.

This is an issue.

Produce the quotes.

No-one is going to fall for this I mean the longer you delay the worse it looks for you but then... you can't produce the required quotes.

What a bad position you find yourself in.

So, we can see Varsoon is lying and misrepping me to try and lynch me.

This is like the definition of scum. I will skip a bunch of me accusing him of lying to get to the important part:

Also, Slandaar, I only skimmed the thread.
My points on you were pretty much all misinformed, as I clumped up a lot of the ideas I had about multiple players onto ones about you.
I probably lied a bunch in there.
But it was really funny, and you took it really seriously, which made it funnier.

Varsoon verifies I am correct he admits my case is completely right and acts like it is some big joke.

He then fakes a cop guilty and gets scared so retracts.

So, at this point Varsoon has purposefully lied and misrepped me as a joke to trash the thread does anyone think this is town behaviour? And this ignores the fact he was pushing a mislynch with lies and misreps.

Now finally I wish to show what I then accuse him of:

You have trashed this thread lying and misrepping me knowing full well you are doing it.

Why would town do this again Varsoon?

Why would town try to mislynch someone with lies and misreps?

Do explain.

Think about how many of you are pissed off with this. I am really fucking annoyed by this also. Just lynch this fucking scum and be done with it. I have literally said the same thing you are currently saying because Varsoon is being retarded to try and get out of the facts. He was lying and misrepping to push a mislynch. That is scum.

[Slandaar]

The Varsoon quote probably needed to be bolded. That is quite key to the post, everyone should read the whole thing though and then you don't need to bother with the other 40 pages of trash thanks to Varsoon.

[Slandaar]

It's also worth saying when TSQ and Varsoon offer 1v1's they forget to add the clause 'if one flips town the other goes the next day' this is because they are scum and if I go first they don't wish to be lynched obviously and if they go first they know the clause doesn't benefit them. This is the key point though, they forget the clause because it doesn't benefit them when they are lynched first.

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When for me the clause is vital because I need to know my man is dying.

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I do wish to address this though as I don't like it much.

It doesn't matter if you're 'purposefully doing it'.
You PURPOSEFULLY posted that you NEVER have the highest post-count as Scum.
If it's just a point in your meta, then let it just be a point in your meta.
We discussed this.

The problem is I cannot control how much people post compared to me as town and scum. It is unfixable from my end without posting spam as scum which creates another issue that I am basically claiming scum. Fact is if I post a lot I am going to be town near enough always there is no denying this. That isn't a trust tell it's just meta.

A trust tell is more like I only ever post 1 post per day as scum! which you are doing to gain the advantage. Being the highest post count isn't something I can control as either alignment.

Take it to the mods if you want it's the last I will say on it in thread.

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But yeah Varsoon is accusing me of trust telling. Which makes me 100% town. I mean easy scumlynch is easy.

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If I am lynched and flip TOWN I am setting up lynches in a scummy way by ensuring my SCUM READ is lynched the next day am I TSQ?

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tl;dr

Varsoon I see you ignored my fantastic point on TSQ I just made. Why is this?

[Slandaar]

To be honest I kind of want to respond to the Varsoon case because it's so bad.

But I shall resist.

As I have said if anyone thinks any of it is remotely good let me know and I shall correct the situation.

[Slandaar]

I understand perfectly.

YOU do not have a clue what you are saying.

"town people care about the alignment of the people they're lynching and scum players do not."

How does this generic statement apply to me?

The why.

The why is this:

UGH. NO. Saki is just being saki. Which is terrible, but not alignment indicative. I don't believe you don't know this.

I know saki plays like that and I have played roughly 4 games in the last 4 years. If you don't know and you've been on this site for any meaningful period of time, then you're blind.

I don't know Saki.

I told TSQ this, he doesn't care because he is scum.

And, you know, this might just be me, but when I'm attacking someone for meta stuff I... I don't know, ask people about their meta?

Meta stuff.

What is meta stuff about lying and nitpicking? these are not meta arguments. I am not going to meta someone when they have lied to me in the way Saki did.

That's TSQ's entire case debunked in seconds.

Now, why TSQ is scum: he didn't meta me while accusing me of not metaing Saki for NON META RELATED THINGS.

His entire argument about me relies on meta that I will continue to dismiss as nitpicking. It's stupid.

Have a nice day.

The bolded part was never a part of your post 1246!
You keep insisting that you're reading what I write but when

I

literally

misrepresent what you said,

you never noticed.
It's hilarious!

Varsoon's logical well thought out case includes:

He dismissed any push he didn't agree with on D1 as 'nitpicking'.

Varsoon is including in his case something

he

added to my posts himself then tried to gloat that he is misrepresenting me because of it.

Like I said show me a point you think is remotely good I will show you why it isn't. This is quite clear though, Varsoon deliberately misreps me then includes the misrep in his case...

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then rely on meta-game knowledge to make your Saki push

This gem

VOTE: Varsoon

Where did I use meta knowledge to lynch Saki?

This still stands.

I never pushed Saki using meta. Everyone knows I wanted to lynch him for what I think was him lying. That isn't meta.

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He is saying I forgot I voted Nintendo briefly on D1. There isn't a lie there. People forget their actions in life all the time doesn't mean they are going to kill you at night.

This game is unreal. I just showed Varsoon has added a line to my post which in his case he has included as a reason for suspecting me. He wrote the line himself...

I am the mason.

Serious claim.

[Slandaar]

And as confirmed town I suggest you believe me when I tell you Varsoon is lying and misrepping me all over the place and just vote him.

Town needs to trust each other. Trust me here please.

[Slandaar]

Town

Varsoon tomorrow

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Seo is the mason it was obvious on D1 thought he would trust me but whatever.

I caught you 2 scum Varsoon/TSQ just lynch them.

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You are.

Town don't lie and misrep people to push their mislynch.

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Impossible to be scummy I am town.

Scum.

[Slandaar]

Just nonsense really

Varsoon literally added text to my post in a quote then used that text he wrote himself in his case against me and you think I am the scum?

Town will lose here, I know you won't lynch Varsoon and TSQ, you are all too weak to do it. I mean they post witty comments and amusing images they cannot possibly be scum can they? nope.

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Claimed VT? what would that do? moronic

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You have voted town doing nothing for 2 days straight Vezok your play was atrocious. I lynch people for lying how Saki did deal with it.

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what's the difference between claiming mason and claiming vt? plus, it seems like you lied so...

Mine had huge upsides???

Saki was just lying to argue with me.

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I said I don't PL lying.... not all lies are lynchable

Varsoons are though lying to mislynch IS scum.

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I told saki he either shows he wasn't lying or gets lynched because the way he lied was hugely scummy. I enforced the lynch when he didn't. His fault for being moronic honestly.

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The point of claiming Mason, Seo, was we then lynch scum Varsoon I get nked all good.

I left the choice to the mason but obviously you think I fakeclaim mason to out the mason when it's blatantly obvious who the mason is anyway when all Boo's townreads made sense except one.

[Slandaar]

You accused me of meta pushing Saki very very early on

I clearly did not do that.

That is lying to push a mislynch which is scum.

[Slandaar]

Ooh you already got hammered.

Good.

Welcome to my blacklist, regardless of which alignment you are.

Nice act.

I mean what was your case again? I didn't meta Saki when he lied. Then you failed to meta me...

2 scumsies caught.

[Slandaar]

If town can lie to push lynches good luck finding scum.

Lynch Varsoon tomorrow.

[Slandaar]

I lied about Nintendo right? 10th level logic I was lying to get you to accuse me of lying therefore admitting lying is scummy in the process.

I don't believe anything you say.

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And by pushing me for lying you admitted it is scummy therefore you shouldn't be doing it thus town wouldn't so...

You're scum.

Glad we sorted that.

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I didn't lie. I forgot.

As confirmed town it is funny you still accuse me of lying.

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Furthermore, the accusation was more along the lines of you being manipulative of meta in order to leverage a lynch on Saki.

Yes you are lying.

Not selfish reasons; I have no idea about Saki's meta I lynched him for lying because it was incredibly scummy. His fault if he didn't lie he should have proven it when he had the chance. I used no meta. None.

I'm out anyways. Town you need to listen to confirmed town not people who try to speak intelligently but say nothing.

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Thanks for lynching Varsoon, better than winning

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TSQ you cry too much that I broke your ego. I played fine.

[Slandaar]

I don't think you know what cogdis means...

I told you you couldn't play how you wanted to and you bent over to me then said you are bad at scumhunting in a very nice way.

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lol

I can get the quote if you want.

Yes, yes, see not about playing badly now we see the truth as I said.

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I mean just say it straight up don't invent reasons makes you look like the kid you are.

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It's OK as-long as TSQ doesn't try to instigate again.

[Slandaar]

What more am I supposed to do exactly? I wanted to lynch FoD(scum) and then Nintendo (scum) D1 saki lied to me so he went. D2 I wanted Min(town) but moved to TSQ (scum) but town were like nah lets lynch obvtown Flames! D3: Varsoon the greatest ever player was like I have an awesome idea lets lie and misrep Sland and help TSQ scum and Nintendo scum!

Saki doesn't lie scum goes D1 in nintendo. Town listens D2 TSQ goes. I mean really... learn how to scumhunt.

[Slandaar]

If you lie and misrep me I am going to think you are scum. You shouldn't do that. Stop playing terribly.

[Slandaar]

I explained forgetting actions isn't scummy people forget their actions in life ALL the time doesn't mean they have an evil motive for it. Fod sheeped me when you admitted to lying at that point I don't care you were trashing the thread.

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Start listening to other people.

Listen to who?

Who did you listen to?

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He was just applying the one of the most common town fallacy of "wrong = scum"

To who? TSQ?

He was in fact scum... 100% accuracy on using this argument. I mean really. (that isn't what I do although I do argue wrong arguments for obvious reasons)

[Slandaar]

Varsoon wasn't wrong he was flat out lying. Everyone knows I lynched Saki for lying nothing to do with meta. He literally just read what TSQ wrote and thought 'oh yeah nice argument buddy!'

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Fuck of slandaar. I had nf pegged since the beginning,

So did I.

but you had to go after Saki. I thoufht you bussed nf then deflected. What was that all about?

Saki lied. Then all you did was deflected off NF onto me because Saki flipped town. What was that all about?

Also team9 was so obviously scum. The only reason they hadn't gotten lynched was because of flames and slandaar.

Nothing to do with us.

You chose not to believe I wanted to lynch Saki for lying. There was literally no reason to disbelieve this. None. No-one posted a reason that stood up to me saying that. You as a townie should have accepted this not be all mad because I was wrong on one lynch which happens I cannot be right every single time.

You played terrible. You got your mislynch on me and then what? town lost, well done.

[Slandaar]

You're just mad I hated on your buddy but I didn't like his entrance to the game he set the tone.

[Slandaar]

Well, yeah, I'll try to lie less in the future (even when joking).
I didn't mind so much that you forgot your case, but that you were saying that that I was scum because you forgot your case.

I didn't do this. I dropped the argument when I realized I was wrong ie I forgot. Nothing scummy here either. You lied about the Saki meta and a bunch of other stuff so one thing being wrong changed nothing in the grand scheme.

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And now you know I am town there is literally no way you can debate this fact. I did not use meta on Saki. You lied. I voted you. Game over. And no you were not joking about that argument either. Why did you not assess what I was saying? If I say I have no meta on Saki then believe it or check. Don't just lie.

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And I am glad you did. Varsoon agreed to the 1v1 and it happened. I am fine with it. Much happier than if town had won.

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Flames was nothing to do with me. I said to no lynch remember?



Pay attention to the game next time instead of being completely worthless.

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I foresaw a town defeat without radical action it was the last dice roll.

Mason was alive final day and town crumpled so I mean... I was right.

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So, I can 'explain' everything else, but why out the mason. Not that it wasn't clear but why?

And obviously the idea wasn't exactly to out the mason the idea was to remove both Varsoon and I before the next day which would have been much better for town I think we can agree.

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He cc'ed at that point so I was just being honest about my flip?

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You just said I was the main reason for the Varsoon lynch so I must have managed to get him lynched albeit at cost.

I lost credibility after Saki flipped so no-one listened anymore. Similar to how Varsoon went when I flipped. I failed, you failed, the town failed. Good job trying to blame me for your shortcomings. Which scum did you lynch? you failed to lynch your scumread nintendo and your scumread Team 9 etc etc.

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I called Team 9 conftown to try and get them nightkilled so I didn't have to bother with what I thought was a 5 headed hydra. I think people didn't get that.

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See, I am not going to reply to you TSQ. You are trying to instigate again.

[Slandaar]

I'm sorry I had to quit this game being a complete asshole and tool

No-one cares about that. We just want to know if you lied or not?

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The problem town had was Varsoon is a VI who trashed the thread when he came in and Vezok is TSQ's best friend and would never vote him whatever the situation along with Saki and it's like 7 scum. But when you lynch one of those 3 people won't accept it was a good lynch...

[Slandaar]

Also NM was pestering me consistently about the dumbest stuff I have read in a long time.

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Saying someone who is town played scummy is the sign of a VI I am afraid Varsoon.

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Because you are not assessing the situation correctly, you are saying they played scummy so the lynch was OK thus you will never get better and are a VI.

I on the other hand have assessed things and know you are a VI now.

[Slandaar]

No, the point is I seem to have received a lot of the blame for no actual reason. I have now distributed the blame to where it should be distributed.

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I had nothing to do with Flames mislynch. Nothing. So, you are literally lying here. Everyone with common sense knew who the mason one. I knew, the scum knew, so it doesn't matter and as we have covered he was alive the final day so it made no difference. It had the possibility to be great though.

Varsoon offered the 1v1, not me. I agreed and ensured it happened.

Good try TSQ.

[Slandaar]

I'm literally lying. Better vote me.

You are indeed.

It just makes you look the fool.

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Less than you.

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Vezok reread or be quiet. You have no memory of my play.

I was spewing bullshit about TSQ who was scum was I?

You are retarded. Point proven.

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It doesn't matter what you say TSQ was scum, I caught him D2, I knew I caught him.

Your failure to understand this is not something I am able to control.

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It is the same reason I was annoyed with NM he pestered me religiously but not TSQ insinuating I couldn't possibly comprehend TSQ's argument when it's the opposite. He couldn't comprehend mine.

[Slandaar]

Please direct me to where this is officially stated.

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heres slandarrs entire problem hes and egoman and he even admits it:

Subject: SDR2 Dead PT

And yeah I am egotistical

so really hes just trying to defend his overinflated ego right now is what it seems like cus he doesnt want to be wrong

Wrong about what?

[Slandaar]

It's sad because TSQ came into the game and insulted me. I took offence to him and ensured I let him know his nonsense is not tolerated. Vezok his best friend takes his side obviously but that isnt enough so you need to call Kuribo in to help out.

You are pathetic.

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Kuribo you especially. What are you doing here other than to cause problems?

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You didn't read the game. You should do that before throwing arbitrary numbers about.

Forgive me if I do not respond further you are ignored I thought we had an understanding but apparently not you have no morales I should have known.

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i watched the game unfold and tbh, THQ is right, you are just butthurt you couldnt get a scum lynched and you fell for a 1v1.

varsoon addmited his wrongdoing but you cant. its hilarious

Actually I did not like how certain people Varsoon and Vezok particularly are blaming me for everything when neither played well themselves.

I already admitted to failing.

Good job though. You should not join my games.

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It's sad because TSQ came into the game and insulted me. I took offence to him and ensured I let him know his nonsense is not tolerated. Vezok his best friend takes his side obviously but that isnt enough so you need to call Kuribo in to help out.

You are pathetic.

Dude, I don't even know who the fuck Vezok is...I don't think we've even ever played together before, and I didnt tell anyone to come here.

Course you don't

He knew you by a different name than TSQ.

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And at this point I have literally no reason to believe anything you or Kuribo say so good job. I will stick with that as what happened.

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For those who clearly have not read the game and wish to stick their oar in, Ika, please get your facts straight.

VOTE: FoD

VOTE: Nintendo

VOTE: Saki

VOTE: Min

VOTE: TSQ

Then Voted TSQ D3 and Varsoon

So, 3/6 were scum, 4/7 votes on scum.

Cry more about how I played so badly. Everyone had a vote, they could have chosen to vote the scum with me but you didn't.

My assessment;

I played fine.

I think this is a very reasonable assessment.

This is of course ignoring the fact I told you Flames is town and to nolynch. Defended Oka from his wagon D1... etc etc.

So, there you go, I knew TSQ was lying about his reasons, he admitted this basically. Vezok is just TSQ's best friend and actually the one who is butthurt, (whom TSQ lied about knowing). TSQ decided to call in Kuribo to try and help which was pathetic but Kuribo soon was dispatched with his tail between his legs. Varsoon is a VI.

Facts speak louder than the nonsense the 4 of you were trying to pull.

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I didn't vote every player in the game. If I did my accuracy would have been 4/15 which I clearly demonstrated it was much higher. I think the point went completely over your head but I am not surprised.

Everyone had a vote, I was loud about who to lynch but I was right a good %. Good enough to win the game. If people had listened the game would have been a lot different. You chose to do your thing. Had everyone done what I said then I would accept this blame but that is not what happened.

This ignores the fact Saki lynch was completely avoidable if he had co-operated/not lied.

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I never dropped my cases on Nintendo and TSQ.

If you actually suspected TSQ which I hugely doubt. All you had to do was vote him instead. But you were pushing what are provably lies. Guess what is going to happen when I am town and you are lying to try and lynch me?

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Also this is town shea and incredibly motivated.

Who is shea?

Well in context we know it is TSQ.

Anyone think Vezok and TSQ don't know each other?

TSQ is cowardly. Can't even admit what is going on.

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cognitive dissonance

Sorry after rereading I saw this. I have no idea what it means. Can you explain it TSQ?

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Where what is officially stated?

That your definition of caught is the official meaning of the term and not how I was using it.

I just want to see the official documentation before taking your word for it.

I mean... you didn't just stoop to nitpicking my wording did you?

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You walked away? oh you big man you. Why are you back then?

You came here purposefully to cause trouble. That is despicable.

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People seem to think you are a funny man but you're not. I know you better than they do. Coming here was a demonstration of the actual person you are.

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Not so tough without your friends though eh Kuribo? They can't back you up here. Come. Argue. Like you wanted.

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I would never go to your games with the sole purpose to wind you up. We are not the same.

Not that I don't understand your response perfectly. As I said. You try to be the funny man but you're not. You know what you could do? apologize for coming here in the first place then leave and that would be that. Good try twisting it though.

[Slandaar]

Taking you a while to think up a hilarious response? not surprised. Grow up. Coming here was despicable of you. You shouldn't have and you know it. Hope you enjoyed your lashing though.

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I don't know TSQ. I don't know Saki.

I don't believe you. The two of you have lied and contradicted yourselves too much in postgame you have ulterior motives to your posting.

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Oh plus you were using meta in that quote.

YOU WERE USING META.

Lie more.

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To be honest it is probably worth checking if Vezok/TSQ are the same person because it's getting silly at this point. I saw TSQ encouraging Ale to send PM's in the scum qt too. Don't think that went un-noticed TSQ. Encouraging others to cheat is the same as doing so yourself.

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ika apparently has problems with his brain.

[Slandaar]

I came to this thread to see Kuribo work his magic

I hope you enjoyed.

[Slandaar]

Kuribo did come here to cause trouble with me.

This isn't my ego it's a fact. Try harder moron.

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You're completely wrong but considering you clearly have not read there isn't a point restating things.

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I got Saki and Varsoon lynched so it's not that. At least that is what people are saying, right? I just use arguments which people don't understand so ignore a lot of the time but there is no better way to explain them.

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oh i have read enough here and elsewhere that i knw what im saying

No you don't. I know you don't. I know how I upset you though make it less obvious.

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Tell Vezok that. Thank you.

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Worst distancing I have ever seen.

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You know what the word means. You know how I am applying it.

Please tell me you are not this dense in real life?

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He regrets it, he came out badly.

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As I have said.

I know him better than you even when we don't talk. I know him.

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Which is why he tried to say we are the same. Because similarities exist.

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You're a joke Ika.

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it's probably even against site rules.

Of course.

I had a plan for Kuribo.

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You're a joke Ika.

keep telling yourself that

What are you doing here again? Butthurt over previous issues.

Make it less obvious.

[Slandaar]

You came here to start a fight.

You enjoying it?

I was absolutely going to report you if you continued absolutely. I don't see why I shouldn't. Give me a reason.

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Why are you even here? hm?

You knew this would happen. I haven't even begun if you want to go.

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If you don't come here with the sole purpose to annoy me then I would never have mentioned you would I?

[Slandaar]

I told you to apologize for coming here but you didn't.

Think it was a good idea?

[Slandaar]

No as we have covered I would never go to your games with the sole purpose to annoy you. As we remember the game I replaced in where you were a hydra I replaced straight out when I realized.

Good job though.

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I mean the fake posting is all very hilarious but you don't say much.

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It looks like Ika was wrong.

Kuribo couldn't walk off

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You mad you couldn't play in the wire because I was there?

I bet you were.