Advance Wars UPick!--Game Over..?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

but varsoon taught me that crazy is town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i did not realize i was still voting albert

i probably need to take a few days break from this game because all i'm doing is shitposting because i'm feeling a little analysis burnt out right now

ssk is boring but it's also likely to yield scum?

VOTE: ssk

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Can we please start putting me and fery in the same tier

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Can we please start putting me and fery in the same tier

why

because we aren't scum/scum and we're not misreading each other right now

[orcinus_theoriginal]

because we aren't scum/scum and we're not misreading each other right now

Oh okay, that does nothing for me.

i need you to put more things in this sentence

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ok look

we are not scum/scum for literally a billion reasons. if you need to question this please bring it up to me but say it gently because i will flip out on you
me/fery are now either town/scum, scum/town, or town/town
fery and i have expressed really confident reads in each other in this thread
if you have a semblance of understanding of me and fery interactions this means you have to rule out town/scum and scum/town
so this leaves town/town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: saki

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Someone tell me I'm just being paranoid about orcinus.

love me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

good lord

VOTE: ssk

[orcinus_theoriginal]

thanks! looking forward to 2 more years

[orcinus_theoriginal]

For my scumday present I want a scum lynch!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh did he? I didn't even notice. In that case yeah.


Blue moon is all townreads to me. Two masons, a tracker, and one ??? that got a clear on orc.

Don't out the last one. He's very important to us and I plan on using him later.

STD is town probaly, why would he have revieved eagles message? Scum.sending a message saying Orci's town to scum makes no sense. I think we should at him to prob town. I'll post the fruits of my analysis once I have a non-phone keyboard anywhere, stupid Samsung Galaxy Young GT-bla. I'm willing to hammer however.

woghunt...

[orcinus_theoriginal]

outed the fact that STD was the one who got a clear on me i guess. probably not a biggie

is ssk lynched it's early and i can't tell

pedit no i don't think so

[orcinus_theoriginal]

eagle's dead sweetie

[orcinus_theoriginal]

so hawke is ssk

fascinating

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I know. and he flipped message sender. that's why I'm confused why gogurts talking about hawke.

peedit: now i'm really confused ._.

well he could give his abilities to another person i guess

...if there was any doubt about ssk being scum let this confirm it

[orcinus_theoriginal]

did you target honey bee last night?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

My message did not reveal its source, it said "you have received a message"

I got it N1.

so why did wuerg say you got it from hawke?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

HAGAHAHAHAha

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I dont know who to vote right now hmmmmmmm


VOTE: saki

[orcinus_theoriginal]

This also means Mara's slot is scum?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

what a game

[orcinus_theoriginal]

EDIT: Seriously, orcinus.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Perhaps. I don't plan on going into it any further, at least in this thread.

Good game to all! Happy that I ended up on the same note as fery, and extremely apologetic for scumreading her over a 4-person scumlist that ended up having 3/4 scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

cheet you were one of my favorite new people i met this game!!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Spoiler: chat log with nati

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:31)
i saw your message in bolt games hq

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:31)
are you all right

Natirasha
(15:31)
?

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:31)
are you all right

Natirasha
(15:32)
Yes.

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:32)
then why would you post something like 'don't be a jackass'

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:32)
does it feel to you like i'm being a jackass?

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:33)
i mean here i am investing effort into a game you are moderating

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:33)
and i asked for clarification on a rule

Natirasha
(15:33)
My ruleset is pretty vague on things

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:33)
and then you give me "don't be a jackass"

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:33)
i mean so not only do you call me a jackass

Natirasha
(15:33)
I tend to give my players lot of leeway to know what is appropriate in regard to gamestate themselves

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:33)
you also refuse to give me the information i'm asking for

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
right ok i think this appropriate, which means you and i disagree on his notion

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
which means as the moderator

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
you need to tell me

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
what is appropriate

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
and what is not

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
which is incidentally why i asked you if you were feeling all right because this shouldn't be something i have to explain to you

Natirasha
(15:34)
I'm fine with outside knowledge being used, but ciphers are a grey area

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
right

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
so you need to tell me what is and is not allowed wrt encryption

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:34)
because i think it's something very valuable that i'd like to use

Natirasha
(15:35)
I don't know what would or wouldn't be!

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
and you expect me to?

Natirasha
(15:35)
Ask me beforehand

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
ok

Natirasha
(15:35)
'I know it when I see it'

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
fery and i have had numerous talks about stuff

Natirasha
(15:35)
Ovrnight, yes

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
that's the point of fucking rules, nati

Natirasha
(15:35)
when I was sleeping

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
no

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
in skype, about other things

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
would it be fair for me to reference that

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
for instance

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:35)
yesterday you talked to me about X and X

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:36)
would this be a fair thing to allude to

Natirasha
(15:36)
I mean if you're talking about the game outside of your private topics, thats a pretty clear violation of the rules

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:36)
not this fucking game nati

Natirasha
(15:36)
But if it's like, 'Hye, yesterday we were talking about shoes on skype'

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:36)
that would be ok?

Natirasha
(15:37)
I guess thats fine, but don't push it.

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:37)
what do you mean by push

Natirasha
(15:37)
And dont fucking play timestamp mafia

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:37)
this is very frustrating for me nati because you need to be more clear on what you mean

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:37)
because i don't think you eve nknow what you mean

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:37)
like 'if you use it once it's ok but the line is drawn at four times'?

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:38)
like here, i'll give you a few sample rules that you can use to append #13

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:38)
and this is necessary because you and i are disagreeing on what is reasonable and what is/isn't a jackass thing

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:38)
and instead of being modkilled i would highly prefer you actually make these rules clear to me

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:38)
which is, y'know, part of your job as a mod

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:39)
-do not use the specific wording of out of thread communication in any way. content can be used freely

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:40)
-don't use encryptoin


Natirasha
(15:42)
I don't want to forthright ban encryption for a number of reasons

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:42)
ok

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:42)
then set parameters on out of thread encryption pelase

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:46)
alternatively i still don't understand how what we were doing violates rule 13

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:47)
considering we were never quoting this communication

Natirasha
(15:50)
You dont see how using timestamps is out-of-game context?

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:50)
oh you edited rule 13, ok good

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:51)
what o you mean by "other such things"

Natirasha
(15:51)
>really just ask me if something's okay

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:51)
i just did!!!

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:51)
and then you replied wiht a "ok, but don't push it"

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:52)
what the fuck does pushing it entail!!

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:52)
you are making this much more difficult than it needs to be because you're not being decisive

Natirasha
(15:53)
Because everything's grey

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:53)
if you modkill me this game without warning

Natirasha
(15:53)
I have literally never had issues with my ruleset since I first used it

Natirasha
(15:53)
I'm not?

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:53)
this will be a very public shitstorm

Natirasha
(15:53)
I fully expect you to give zoroaster a negative review already

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:53)
this is also the first game you've had where people have NEEDED to encrypt

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:53)
this is not me nati

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:54)
this is wha the game mechanic supports

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:54)
so i'm going to ask one last time

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:54)
what does "pushing it" entail

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:55)
if you do not answer this in a definitive, decisive sense i am going to proceed with what i see fit and what i am motivated by these game mechanics to do

Natirasha
(15:55)
Just use some insight and have me review what you intend!

Natirasha
(15:55)
to post

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:55)
nati

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:55)
you aren't even online to post VCs

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:55)
i'm not running every post by you

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:56)
i can give you a list of things i intend to do

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:56)
and you can tell me if they are ok/not ok

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:56)
do not tell me "ok but don't push it" because that doesn't actually say anything

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:57)
i intend to ask fery about our skype conversation yesterday regarding a specific game and a specific person and put concatonate those words to create a vigenete cypher

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:57)
i intend to ask cabd about some real life things that we've done, concatenate the answers to those questions and create a cypher

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:57)
we will use this cypher and the corresponding key to communicate

orcinus_theoriginal
(15:57)
is this ok

Natirasha
(16:03)
I am consulting with my other moderator

Natirasha
(16:03)
s

Natirasha
(16:03)
please hold

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:03)
ok

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:07)
i'm glad i had the foresight to reject your offer of reviewing everything i post

Natirasha
(16:09)
We're going with precedent set forth from this thread

Natirasha
(16:09)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37899

Natirasha
(16:09)
'do not violate the spirit of the game'

Natirasha
(16:09)
Which is a no

Natirasha
(16:10)
To pretty much any real-life based cryptography'

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:10)
then what kind of encryption is allowed

Natirasha
(16:10)
Very little!

Natirasha
(16:11)
Things planned in game-specific private topics

Natirasha
(16:11)
Like if you and ffery had a signal

Natirasha
(16:11)
that you set up there

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:11)
so real-life based cryptography is a no

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:11)
how about based on previous games

Natirasha
(16:11)
or, things that everyone in the game has access to

Natirasha
(16:12)
Like if you referenced a mafia discussion thread

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:12)
ok

orcinus_theoriginal
(16:12)
solid

[orcinus_theoriginal]

If only Xenocrew had managed to actually win Xenoblade ^^

how's it going buddy

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I just realized how truly fucked my scumteam is, kill me now

abridged for those on the go

Well, now.

Book doing analysis w/ you was really fun. Think this game really got me back into the beat of meta racing