Drawn on Arrival: The Movie: The Game (GAME OVER!)

[pirate mollie]

just so you guys I will lynch anti if you guys can make it happen.

also I am out of rvs. who does that dumb shit anyway

[pirate mollie]

just so you guys I will lynch anti if you guys can make it happen.
also I am out of rvs. who does that dumb shit anyway

Mollie's scum; Anti's town.

why am I scum mastina?

[pirate mollie]

lets vote mastina today!

VOTE: mastina

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: mollie

aaaaaand this is why you are scum.

do you really wanna explore this cos I am giving you fair warning you might not want to go down this road.

I will be nice to you 2 cos I love you both but activating the mollie paranoid tracking device is never a good idea. anti wld know why I was voting him and wld understand why I was voting mastina before she outed as mason.

VOTE: heartless

[pirate mollie]

cw plz.

[pirate mollie]

no really guyz I think they are scum

[pirate mollie]

Nope. Shortcutting it before it induces day1 apathy. Interact all you want, but cut out all of the "lynch Mollie!" posting. Then, tomorrow, if you want to do it, go for it.

yeah I get the fear of overinformation, with spamplayers in the current site-meta, especially with those who have a tendency to spiral around past meta with each other, especially in a large game.

But if mollie is scum here, you're giving her a chance to ease into the game, and/or giving buddies an excuse to ignore the wagon.

Her start to this game was sketch and deserves to be pressured.

this requires so much work.

what part of my play do you think was sketch? and what part of my play where you miss that I think a cw wld be incredibly productive?

[pirate mollie]

what do think of Heartless's claim, like what the motivation is for it?

and read of PV?

I think it deserves a lynch vote that is why I am voting them.

if anti does not get this then lynch him.

tth will be dumb about it unless anti explains it to her. even tho he already said, "there is reason for that" and there is.

what I want is a good strong cw where I can find town when I am being rapid speeded as a lynch. cos that is my goal.

[pirate mollie]

Hey guys,
Also,
I am town.

OMG it's back

ewww

[pirate mollie]

you didn't say policy lynch before

who are you talking to here?

[pirate mollie]

counterwagon. gotcha.
thanks guys.
I'm gonna go not read this game because everyone is ignoring me.

no1 is ignoring you. ppl are just responding to other things.

you, mollie

now i'm trying to figure out what the vote's for

be4 i thought it was about what i just did on MR and lolparanoia, but now it's b/c of the claim? why didn't you say that before?

they are not mutually exclusive.

but thanx for keeping your vote on me and not trying to sort the game out tho!

[pirate mollie]

what do think of Heartless's claim, like what the [scum] motivation is for it?

Spoiler:

We're voting already? We don't even know anything yet do we? Shouldn't we all be a bit more rational about this?

i advise you actually read parama's ic stuff

[se]
hello.
i'm antihero.

while i don't technically have a "teaching" position like the ic, i've been on this site a long time, just never bothered to do newbie games.

so yeah, i might give asides like this from time to time about ...things...

also, i don't capitalize, i overuse ellipses, and i make run on/grammatically incorrect sentences. it's partly because i'm kind of stupid and partly because this is the only venue where i can get away with this kind of writing.

i also tend to curse a lot, but i'll try not to here. if i somehow slip and break this (i hope i don't), i probably don't really mean whatever offensive thing i say.

have at it.
[/se]

also, i don't capitalize, i overuse ellipses, and i make run on/grammatically incorrect sentences. it's partly because i'm kind of stupid and partly because this is the only venue where i can get away with this kind of writing.

"Don't scumread me."

Must be self-conscious scum.

VOTE: Anti-hero

The Mafia team of

Antihero

and

Parama

have won!

Historically, Antihero has never rolled town in a game we were both in. I'd vote him, but I like my Jackel vote more. Also, the instant he rolls "not-PGO," a town vig or SK should just shoot him.

tbh this is 1 of the weirdest posts I have ever read.

[pirate mollie]

there is a 3 part component to it.

1. "anti is scum cos I have never rolled town with him before."

2. you like the jackel vote more. why?

3. you are suggesting a vig kill over a lynch which wld provide info and before you skip to the latter it wld be awsum if you verified your reasoning for both.

[pirate mollie]

if you ppl do not even attempt a wagon on heartless after that shitty claim I gonna be pissed

[pirate mollie]

do i want blood? the answer is yes.

[pirate mollie]

Please calm down. I'm not sure if this is a personal issue thing but I sure don't see either of you as scum.

i sure shit hope it's not personal thing

tth is saying that there's an understandable reference frame mollie is probably approaching this from. she said something to me. words went in my ear and then my brain shut down. but she sounded reasonably confident in it so i'm cool w/ it and i'm sure she'll post it whenever she gets on here.

... the thing that's stumping us right now is what her problem with the full claim is NOW.

for her to still think we're scum she either has to believe we made up that claim (LOL) or that quadz gave us a broken fakeclaim (lol?)

that's kind of what tth asked her in the last post: what problem does she have w/ the claim b/c those actor and post restriction are p cut and dry provable and scum claiming supersaint is just lolz.

I really don't know.
I've seen Mollie go pretty crazy and it sometimes comes from a personal thing. I saw it with her and desp.
The blinders seem on for her and if it gets really bad I tend to put her on ignore till she calms down.
Tbf I've tried in the past to be rational about the arguments and I get no where so I've just feel like Pere does in the situation and declare you both town to end the argument.

erm. excuse me but desp got crazy on me by saying that "hi guys! wats going on" was a scumtell for me when I say it all of the time. when presented a list of games in which I did this he tried to argue that it had to with spelling and grammar. which proved false.

why are you trying to discredit me?

also hi shaft! <3 <3 <3

boo where are you my love?

[pirate mollie]

you don't think that i am doing something and being really transparent about it, absorbing reads and trying to get a read on anti who has the ability to pretend to be best buds with me when scum?

[pirate mollie]

while also trying to figure out how far the bastardization goes? goes from my perspective it is pretty bastard.

[pirate mollie]

you don't think that i am doing something and being really transparent about it, absorbing reads and trying to get a read on anti who has the ability to pretend to be best buds with me when scum?

That's what I thought.

plz tell me what you think of psyche's and marquis's clever clever plan to try to lynch me after I pointed out that I am a doublevoter hhmmm?

like, that must not look scummy at all

[pirate mollie]

It's too early to say, but my intuition tells me there's something slightly off about the way Marquis reacted to Psyche in the conversation.

so your plan is to let 1 of us get lyched?

[pirate mollie]

I don't really have a plan. :S

If need be, I'll elaborate further on why your wagon is mostly ill-founded, but I'd like to spend my time elsewhere as I don't think it's likely to go much further anyway.

is this tth? it sounds like tth.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: mastin2

I'm very supportive of Seraphim's plan to not care about who gets lynched until people start dying.

I am totally down for a mastina lynch but isn't she claiming masons with some1?

[pirate mollie]

^ the above is my attempt of missing the point to every post that I respond to that way I can blend in

[pirate mollie]

I feel like bro was lurching with his vote he knows he does not ever need to vote me to figure me out all he has to do is shake my hand

[pirate mollie]

anti what do you think of mastina's push on me? cos honestly if not for the softclaim I wld be scumreading her right now. she knows I am never a good d1 lynch especially since she has actually seen my scumgame. we all know it sucks not because i don't like playing scum anymore cos I actually love it I don't have to give a shit or try to coordinate a herd of cats on a scum lynch but 1 thing she does as scum is to pick some1 as scum and insist on it despite all evidence to point otherwise.

@ gilly

you seem strangely subdued. I wasn't "tunneling" on anti I was forcing him to interact with me. I kind of liked tth's vote on me but I know anti has by now explained to her as to why I want him to suffer a bit if you want a reference it has to do with an offsite game.

where the fuck is ika in this game

VOTE: ika

[pirate mollie]

Other entrances I don't care for are Gilgamesh's and Marquis'.

I actually like Gilgamesh's entry though. I'm reading him as town for that

have you played with gilly before?

also i find it strange that you like his entry but not his reads as in you said that you think 1 of brian and I are scum which is trying to hedge your bets and leverage a mislynch. brian's indignation kind of reads as townish to me and i know that i am town.

plus gamma is voting you and well...gamma.

in other news can i not even get 1 player to help me sort out ika? like really?

[pirate mollie]

also @ mastina

if you come back into this thread and continue to get weird on me I will think that you have srsly lost your mojo and your ability to understand me and it will make me feel unloved.

[pirate mollie]

So I got around to reading the game and amatuer doesn't seem particularly scummy actually.

Heartless looks a little town too but I never like "i'm town because of my role" arguments, and the neg-utility role they have could theoretically be scum, the PGO would be the only weird thing to give to scum and it'd be fine one out of every 5 days in a game this big.

VOTE: BipolarChemist

I am pretty serious about wanting dead things faster than normal though so if you have a decent wagon you want me on poke me with reasons and I can probably join if they're not awful.

I am with you as to why I think you are voting bpc cos I have my eye on him too but cld you plz help me out with ika tho?

my case on him is probs similar to how you feel about bpc as in can you remember a single thing either of them has said? I think they both have the potential to crack tho but I need help.

@ boo

hi my love!

I am leaning heartless as town I thought I explained this? however I wish anti wld quit sulking he shld have anticipated that i wld give him a hard time. at least for a little while.

[pirate mollie]

heartless can i plz have help with sorting ika? thank you

[pirate mollie]

boo you too

[pirate mollie]

If this is true then I think you helped me learn how to read Mastin.

The flowchart, while half a year old in its latest version, still applies more than it doesn't, by the way.

I'll condense it down for you, though:
If Mastin is scum, accept the loss; she's going to win regardless of what you do. So treat her like town.
If Mastin is town, then she is town. Treat her as town. If she wants to be listened to, listen to her and trust her instincts. If she doesn't tell you to listen to her, take her words with a grain of salt; they're reads but not solid ones.

BAM.
You now know how to treat Mastin.
Will work out for you nearly every single game.

oh plz. you nearly always get this cocky as scum. you just discredited yourself on this very page by saying no that i am never a good d1 lynch but you are keeping your vote there anyway but that you will probably move it. cos you aren't trying to sort the game at all from my perspective. and you do NOT look like lethargic, tired of rolling town you look like jolly happy to finally get a scum role pm scum.

sorry, but that is what you look like. of course i cld be wrong but if you are town you know that when we work together we actually lynch scum, 9 times out of 10. I am an obvs double voter so I am wondering why in the world wld you throw that beautiful history away? especially after redemption where you really shld have listened to mine and majiffy's read on etl cos we have that dynamic too? we lynched scum!guyett didn't we?

I am trying to find town so that i can obvsly work with them this like so obvs and I am wondering why you are being stubborn about this. I think you need to fullclaim so that you can be accountable for when you supposedly "expire". the soft mason claim is the only that is keeping from wanting to deliver your blood to the blood gods.

also i wld like to hear as to why you thought that I was scum in the first place cos I am really interested in hearing that.

[pirate mollie]

Sure. I got nothing from his one post, but I'll vote him for you, Mollie.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ika

Post or perish.

thank you, boo <3!!!

I know he has been around he has called me every single night he is totally avoiding this game like the plague.

he has finally accepted my offer to become my internet adopted son so now I have 2, ika and skrew.

@ psyche

why the jump to ika flaking rather than him simply scumlurking? you are very hard to read. I don't so suppose if I asked sweetly if you are town you cld start posting like you have that alignment? what if I batted my eyelashes at you wld that work? cos I have only seen you as scum before and so far I am not seeing a difference all you are doing is going off on these weird tangentials.

@ varsoon

cld you plz do something except treat yourself like arm furniture? I am listening!

[pirate mollie]

heartless can i plz have help with sorting ika? thank you

tth has a light scum read on him. she also told me why but i kind of tuned her out. sry.

will you plz stop sulking. hey you won in that game cos i thought you deserved it after the shitty gameplaying done by multiple living players, non players and dead players in the pg thread which is only supposed to be used for mod posts and bah posts. everybody knows this but sven and yet they still did it anyway. can you plz get a grip I am listening to you and I don't think i am the only 1!!!!! I am over my surliness and I am sorry if I came across as mean. lets kiss and make up.

[pirate mollie]

will you plz stop sulking. hey you won in that game cos i thought you deserved it after the shitty gameplaying done by multiple living players, non players and dead players in the pg thread which is only supposed to be used for mod posts and bah posts. everybody knows this but sven and yet they still did it anyway. can you plz get a grip I am listening to you and I don't think i am the only 1!!!!! I am over my surliness and I am sorry if I came across as mean. lets kiss and make up.

lol, nothing to do w/ that game
i'm just kind of dumpy right now

[pirate mollie]

Why do something? There's so much noise and confusion that any scum worth their salt is either going to game it or sit back and avoid attention.
That's why my bets are on BRO for now.

I can't even form reads in this maelstrom. Rather than adding to the noise and confusion, I'll stay out of it, thank you.
If you've got questions or something, I'm cool to answer 'em.
Otherwise, I don't see much value in posting when I don't have anything extraordinary to say.

can you plz tell me varsoon who hacked into your account that way i can meta them instead of you

I liked the bro vote.

I am getting pretty strong town vibes from boo and that is probs who i will be working with.

eta: beautiful xpost

[pirate mollie]

Half-true. The RVS stuff means very little to me and I am goading her, but that's part of the sorting out process.

Your case can be summarized as, "She's pushing mollie. She has no scumreads. Therefore, scum."
When the case itself also undermines itself by pointing out "All that stuff she did in Duck Tales, she's doing here."
The only difference between Duck Tales and here (and I do mean the ONLY difference)

is that here, I actually don't have reads that I'm instantly confident in.

Something which does happen, and will change. Different game, different atmosphere. Duck Tales I got ahold of things instantly. Here with this playerlist (players make a difference; circumstances are EVERYTHING because it's a different environment, different feeling, just different game entirely), it's not as instantly happening.

then what was your "100% townread on psyche" about and you certainly seemed pretty freaking confident that I was scum earlier. you also never gave a reason like I asked you were just all like "this is not mollie townposting" which is bs and you and I both know it.

cos this jumped out at me.

[pirate mollie]

can't wait to see what ika comes up with!

[pirate mollie]

Oh, the Psyche thing?
Not RVS.
Totally serious about him being 100% town.

It's more otherstuff that's not strong. Like, I'll give my reactions to posts, stating town/scum, and what I think of a player. Just feels until I say otherwise.

As for you? Pretty sure that I never was more than pretty sure you were scum, and that read has weakened.

This is all standard Mastin stuff.

Why is it freaking you out so much?

because you know I cannot scumhunt on the defensive and to claim in the way that I wld have to be retarded scum and I am insulted to think that you think that I am that retarded. yes, I know my scumgame is pretty fucking dismal but it only isn't THAT BAD. I was okay with my wagon cos I cld scumhunt off of it but built up pretty fucking fast with no cw. I guess I feel like you shld know me by now and we have a pretty decent history together and you know if I townread you I will fight like crazy against your lynch. I also feel like i am pretty decent at reading you even tho you have never given me credit ever but then i realised in redemption that you don't really listen to my reads and it makes me sad but I am not understanding why you are being so derpy right now.

I am feeling weird of you are spending more time time talking about yourself especially since you are claiming you have an expiration date. you brought up bro's role in graveyard but utterly failed to point out that bro's expiration date was announced in the op while yours isn't and all we have is your word to go on and since you are choosing to not be forthright about it yes I am going to get weird on you. I think not claiming when your expiration date is or how it will come about does not help town. but I also know that you have your way about doing things.

so you can go do your thing but just be very much aware that I have my eye on you.

[pirate mollie]

in other news can i not even get 1 player to help me sort out ika? like really?

I am with you as to why I think you are voting bpc cos I have my eye on him too but cld you plz help me out with ika tho?

What's the case on ika?

Stop hatin' bro. Why the hate?

You from London or Canada motherfucka, pick one?

Vote: Gilgamesh

That was a tired ass post. Big thing irking me is "Reina is null for this post"...okay? It's only been 3 days. What good are null reads?

Apparently this is the Cheet game with the life insurance bullshit? Because I saw it mentioned again but did not see an answer to it and I'm on page 13. Chucking Cheet on the scumlist for now.

Also not jumping on ika or amateur atm. Not feeling those. SORRY MOLLIE but I gotta keep it real with you.

K I need to sleep so I can get up in a few hours. Will continue from page 14.

hhmmm...

[pirate mollie]

for those of you who are wondering: im just isoing everyone and geinve out my stance. last night something came up and i was not in the mood to post.

I got work so it will most likely continue tongihtish

so you looked at the game and noticed a bw on you but you didn't iso th number 1 person pushing it?

so disappoint.

ika my dear you can run but can't hide

[pirate mollie]

Spoiler: reduction

because you know I cannot scumhunt on the defensive and to claim in the way that I wld have to be retarded scum and I am insulted to think that you think that I am that retarded. yes, I know my scumgame is pretty fucking dismal but it only isn't THAT BAD. I was okay with my wagon cos I cld scumhunt off of it but built up pretty fucking fast with no cw. I guess I feel like you shld know me by now and we have a pretty decent history together and you know if I townread you I will fight like crazy against your lynch. I also feel like i am pretty decent at reading you even tho you have never given me credit ever but then i realised in redemption that you don't really listen to my reads and it makes me sad but I am not understanding why you are being so derpy right now.

I am feeling weird of you are spending more time time talking about yourself especially since you are claiming you have an expiration date. you brought up bro's role in graveyard but utterly failed to point out that bro's expiration date was announced in the op while yours isn't and all we have is your word to go on and since you are choosing to not be forthright about it yes I am going to get weird on you. I think not claiming when your expiration date is or how it will come about does not help town. but I also know that you have your way about doing things.

so you can go do your thing but just be very much aware that I have my eye on you.

Mollie, if you're scum, postgame apologize to me.
...Because that's just too much a suckerpunch.

And I'm sorry, mollie, for the push. <3 mollie.
VOTE: Shaft.
(Yes, mollie's town. Or owes me a big apology for reaching out like THIS. )

I am town. and back at you! if you are scum I will cry a river of tears cos then I can't say that I feel like I can read you anymore but I understand as to why you might felt a bit weird on me tho. I have never been a doublevoter before so my approach was a bit a different. but i wasn't playing it safe and I was feeling pretty reckless at the time.

Preeeeetty dang sure ika's scum too, btw.

...That said, ika's alignment regardless, I kinda expect there to be some number of scum on ika's wagon.

Especially if...
...Oh, god, I don't want to be the person to say it.
But someone's gonna eventually, so might as well, under the condition we THEN IMMEDIATELY BURY IT AGAIN,
...Especially if the game's multiball.

But assuming singleball (which we should), probably still true because ika's likely to be bussed by this point.

I didn't wanna go there either but the thought did cross my mind! I am just not going there yet.

[pirate mollie]

So I'm not absolutely 100% on ika being scum.

But he seems to have a pretty fine chance of being scum and mollie is now super super town, and I am basically ecstatic to have that as an actual legitimate reason for a day 1 lynch instead of the normal clusterhell of opinions that makes everyone disinterested in the game and ensures that they never read back later to make better opinions.

So go go ika lynch it's the best come join us i believe in all of you and more words that say similar things!

why ika though, compared to like say, BROseidon? or Bulge? at least ika has actually posted content

i actually don't think aero responded well to tth's pressure. the wagon speed was p good and hit the sweet spot in terms of resistance.

that was a good wagon.

Just no resistance from the actual person himself.

I'll consider the wagon when ika actually starts existing in this game.

On the other hand I like the jackal wagon so I'm sheeping

vote jackal

I just have a really hard time not reading this as theamateur trying to distance himself from his counterwagon. Like, a good majority of his posts have been him decrying the ika wagon especially now that it seems like an inevitably. I could be totally wrong about this but ika looks way more like a player who has gotten swamped than caught scum.

I have a list of townreads though ika is not on that list. If he is lynched, I will not be sad but I think there are players more likely to be scum out there.

I'm not really, I'm just questioning why reina(and mollie) is targeting ika over anyone else. Although I do find it interesting why ika hasnt finished her ISO on the remaining 5-6 people in the game

yes. there are the remaining 4 to 5 pple that my beloved ika has not isoed. after only only isoing 3 to 4 pple.

math is hard. I understand it is a 27 player game.

I am not impervious to a the ameater lynch.

[pirate mollie]

i just noticed that in mollies quote thing amature doesnt see that im a guy........

mollie deary, you know that wehn i get into convos i get all destracted. who are the 4-5 that you want me to do? im in a rather good mood atm so i could prob crank out a few good reads on them

bpc, seraph and shaft for starters.

[pirate mollie]

throw varsoon in

[pirate mollie]

nononono

we are not gonna lose site of the ika lynch

[pirate mollie]

nononono

we are not gonna lose site of the ika lynch

gimme a compelling rationale
or im killing this wagon today

cos i want it

[pirate mollie]

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[pirate mollie]

Let's all call mollie the SK so she rage-quits again. That was an entertaining read.

you mean that game where I didn't actually ragequit but nacho pmed the mod and then me and was all like "IMA REPLACING IN FOR MOLLIE" cos he was worried (and I was too!) that I wld face a suspension? YOU MEAN THAT GAME?

you know, normally this kind of needless bullshit antagonistic post wld normally piss me off but there is no way I am gonna let you burst my happy bubble.

see this is why life feels pretty good right now:

it was a snow so my son and spent the day watching movies together. I even got him to watch frozen with me cos it reminds me of tammy and I and our sisterly dynamics and he was all like, "JESUS CHRIST THIS IS SUCH A CHICK FLICK" and yes he really did say that. then we went to the store to get pizza and ice cream and brownie mix and he grabbed arm and had his other hand around my waist cos he didn't want me to slip on the snow and ice, he is totally sweet that way. he will make a wonderful boyfriend some day and I said this to him and he was all like "shut up" and I smiled cos this past valentine's he was invited to some girl's sleepover in which she did not tell her parents so it didn't work out. but he showered, packed his bag and FILLED UP A WATER BOTTLE but was deeply disappointed that he didn't go. so we are probs gonna arrange a supervised "date" and all I cld think was "HOLY SHIT MY 13 YEAR OLD SON HAS GOT GAME".

also my dog found her tennis ball and now instead of pestering me relentlessly for attention is now occupied whenever I throw the ball. she is a miniature boxer and nacho and gamma both think she is pretty dumb cos she simply does not understand body boundaries and mistakenly thinks she is a lapdog. but I love her anyway.

my cat who was all scraggly and lethargic and I was told she was not affectionate at all is literally glowing with good health and is the most affectionate cat I ever owned. she always sleeps close to my heart and takes on the dog if cassie tries to take her spot. we had a family meeting over my son's disappointment recently and both the dog and the cat stood side by side on the ottoman cos they know that they are part of our family. they are very supportive.

AND NACHO IS COMING TO VISIT ON THE 14 OF MARCH!!!!!

things have been really shitty the past few months but life is good right now soyeah, there is no way I am going to let your trolling burst my bubble.

so carry on and say what you want there is simply no way you can steal my joy.

aside from your

nasty

trolling do you have any other observations about the game?

[pirate mollie]

Hi guys.

I'll probably start reading this N1. <3 you all

d2 lynch right here !!!!!

[pirate mollie]

Ugh, I'm obviously not getting my lynch on BRO, so I'll have to compromise and actually read the game.
Mollie, how sure of you on this Ika read?

can remember what ika has said? are you feeling the beloved presence of ikaness in this thread? no?

he is probs scum then. if not I get to yell at him for dragging his feet in postgame so win win for me.

[pirate mollie]

I wld love to hear what varsoon thinks about cheetos and boo and well, any1 actually, right about now.

[pirate mollie]

tth <3

[pirate mollie]

Not sure about Psyche or Jackel POV. Mollie knows my game reasonably well, and might think she can get me mislynched and then be on her merry way

given that I'm a relatively easy mislynch.

since when

everybody knows that you are an incredibly valuable player as town and dangerous as scum. don't hand ME that aTe bs you say you have read enough of the game to have me or jackel as scum and then later in 690 you imply that you aren't actually reading the game.

pfffttt

[pirate mollie]

the ika wagon was born to die

I am just going to pretend that you are town holding the lateral edges and that you have some masterplan in mind.

cos unless you have a cogent reason as to why ika is town then...I dunno.

if ika is town then I am going to murder him IRL.

disclaimer: NOT THAT I AM ACTUALLY THREATENING HIM IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM HIM PLZ DON'T SEND THE POPO AFTER ME TIA

[pirate mollie]

you guys don't have any cogent reasons why he's scum how have i received this heavy burden of proof

you were born that way hence why it is your burden

[pirate mollie]

[pirate mollie]

also if any1 lynches reina when I might have an actual townread on her I will...do something to you. I can't exactly promise what that "something" is but it will be something.

IRL

disclaimer: not that I am trying to threaten any1....

[pirate mollie]

I think ika immediately starting to do isos instead of reading the thread normally and commenting on what stood out for him is a little bit more likely to come from scum than town, to me it seems more likely that scum would see that they needed to look town and start trying to look town with a reads list.

The alternative is the possibility of town coming in and deciding to iso everyone after just 20 pages in a game this big, it's a little unlikely that he'd be thinking that there'd be a ton of info to be gained by isoing everyone given that there's only 20 pages in a 27 player game.

This is definitely cognant, and if you have an read on someone else for something stronger than *they be lurking in a scummy way mon* then go be convincing about it.

Additionally, burdens are dumb. Fuck 'em.

No, this is in fact a trumped up version of the narrative "they be lurking in a scummy way".

Damn it guys. It's a 27 player game. You are always always always going to have people playing just like ika. They're lazy, guilty people and they feel like they have to do something and unable to do anything. The 'insight' that isoing people in a 20 page, 26 player game offers little info just isn't a sufficiently common sentiment here on MS for it to be factored into scum reads.

[pirate mollie]

wtf why did that post.

ANYWAYS THIS IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY

ika is no shrinking violet in large games in fact I think he downright used to them. which is why your argument looks so bad.

[pirate mollie]

@ ika

don't let HI bug you dear. I think lately he has been wotc cos this is what he does; remain useless and trolls.

in other newz your still scum

[pirate mollie]

ika and mollie are just really close and ika has a history of being defensive of ppl he's close to

I also think it is null for him. he also soooper protective of tammy too.

I am scumreading him cos he is subdued and there is a lack of rolefishing in his posts. like i feel that town!ika wld be crawling all over mastina and you. is he? NO! i have actually learned a great deal from him and I am not seeing 1 thing from him that he has taught me.

@ cheet

it isn't a touchy subject I was deathtunneled for like 2 months IRL time by a player who not only had never actually seen my sk game but tried to apply meta that he didn't have on it and was simply untrue. do you know why he was scumreading me? cos my reads were accurate and the sk were wiping out the scum team. perv is the 1 who ultimately owned the scum team and saved face town. both ika and HI were in that game and HI is just trolling however I have no idea what his alignment is, gun to head I think mebbe town but I simply don't know.

[pirate mollie]

eta: that shld read as sk

faction

.

[pirate mollie]

actually i haven't read ika's recent stuff yet and at a glance it looks very slightly not awful

maybe i can do amateur instead, i'll take a look after work.

focus

[pirate mollie]

I have decided to just blog about my daily activities cos I am unlikely to move from from ika but then stranger things have happened.

so I am making crockpot chili blanco and it smells delicious.

I like reina's post 836 cos I got whiplash with psyche's turnaround vote too and I liked

gamma's

*cough* gilly's trying to get ika more engaged with his line of questioning.

if reina and gilly are both scum we will be having bbq critic for post game dinner. I think they are town.

I lean town on mastina? I think. I strongly think this.

[pirate mollie]

wait psyche aren't you and mastina masons

VOTE: seraphim

[pirate mollie]

wait psyche aren't you and mastina masons

VOTE: seraphim

i haven't quite figured out my relationship with mastin yet
but because of it i'm relatively sure he's town

whos idea was it to claim masons

[pirate mollie]

He's so trustworthy that I'd fakeclaim masons with him.

unpack this for me

whoops

[pirate mollie]

ok... we got the bp vest from farside

even more strangely... the bp was used up...

what the fuck?

How the fuck do you know the BP was used up? WHY did you know the BP was used up?

because the mods told us it was

Unvote
Vote: Heartless

Unless I'm completely off base, this is impossible. Without fullclaiming, my role is an X-Shot Bulletproof. I specifically checked with the mod to see whether or not I would be informed if I would informed if I was targeted for a kill and my answer was in the negative. I also know that BPs are rarely told if their shots are expired and there is NOTHING in Farside's role PM that would suggest that the BP is special or different from mine. Which means you're lying about Farside targeting you which makes zero sense to me anyway.

yaye!

seraphim is scum

[pirate mollie]

Unvote

Alright I will.

So you'll grant we're telling the truth about our claim but still contend we're scum?

*tsk tsk tsk*

AHAHAHAHAHA

tth mollie

[pirate mollie]

fuuuu

im so behind

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LOVE SHAFT

[pirate mollie]

I'll reread Seraphim in a bit I guess. I don't really like voting him because he's likely multiball scum either though given that it's not really confirmed multiball yet (although I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is).

hhhmmm...

if he's likely multiball scum here wldn't that make him still scum?

I am surprised that you are not going with the inventor given 1 shot bp vs the 1 shot bp role claim. that just seems to me to be a more logical conclusion to work from then the 1 you seem to be using right now.

[pirate mollie]

I am not informed when I am targeted for a kill.

Maybe it's just the wording, but did you ask if you are informed when your Bulletproof vest is used up?

The way this is worded, you are sounding like you are a self watcher.

I don't even understand this post.

seraph is claiming x-shot and it has at least been within my experience that you are alerted when 1 of your shots is used up. but its critic and they are known for their crazy set-ups.

[pirate mollie]

I think you look scummy in 1137 gilly.

do you think i am being immature, passive aggressive and useless?

and to "but why?" question I am going to go ahead tell you that your post lacks a certain oompf to it. there is a distinct lack of focus of your posts that I received on the brunt end in cursed. you hounded the fuck out of me and here it just seems like you are going through the motions.

help me understand you better

[pirate mollie]

I think if Sera is scum then Gilga is probably town.
I don't think he'd defend a scummate after Sera got put in the hotseat this cycle for doing the same thing D1.

cheetos

have a seat.



why no love?

I only have 1 completed game with you. I wanted skull lynched/day vigged whatever cos she was scummy on d1. the jon push was pl push cos of the spam posting. which in post game made sense.

so after an ika flip which revealed that he was scum and given our 1 game together why no love?

until I have a bit more time to sort

UNVOTE: seraph

I am not liking the backpedaling of psyche's and mastina's mason claim. at all. and I get why cheetos is wondering about mastina's claim as a self watcher. it

cld

go with multiple weird roles that sort of work with each other much like I am going with that I find it likely that far gave heartless the invention and that seraph might actually be bp. we had that shit in graveyard and it fucked with us in the end (2 commuters with a bp). so ugh.

@ gilly

it was your steering off the ika wagon and now steering off of seraphim that is grabbing my attention but what I really need to do is sit down and organize all of the info I have in order to look at whats in front of me. I don't boy that you are "more comfortable with minis but unfamiliar with larges" stuff since you cited "southern belles" hydra in cursed when we were "southern gothic". this is a distinct cog-dis that donnae like. cos obvsly, you were following a game in larges. and whether you want to acknowledge it or not, you were using meta.

tth - plz look at this and give it some thought.

gilly, you also look like you are trying not to make waves.

[pirate mollie]

Also, I feel very uncomfortable.
Can someone please keep mollie away from me?
I don't feel safe.

what were you hoping to accomplish with this post exactly?

waiting for tth to respond to my post

[pirate mollie]

tbh I think your sarcasm is downright douchey!

and you are still not answering as to what you were hoping to accomplish with your post!

so you can play ball or not.

[pirate mollie]

Bleh.
I 100% didn't mean to come across as douchey.
I've been trying to have more fun in the games I play in.
Should just stick to playing the game because when I try to have fun/joke around people think I'm being a dick q.q

I personally opt for ironic humour rather than sarcasm.

I think sarcasm derides the person you are responding to and I think irony is ridiculing the situ. it cld be construed as ridiculing the person it is aimed at or yourself. or just the situ itself.

sometimes i opt for sarcasm if I am feeling miserable about my life.

do you think gilly looks skeered? can you look at gilly?

[pirate mollie]

Post or perish.

No

you probably shld

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: bro

[pirate mollie]

you guyz can either get on the happy bro wagon or do something that might or might not require some sort of srs bodily injury to your...something. I will think of sufficient dire threats later.

plz vote bro tia

[pirate mollie]

We, in fact, need everyone to weigh in. If you sideline and proddodge like this we get neither reads on you as there are no actions/reactions to go off of, nor do we get reads off those you may push.

The fact that scum got lynched day 1 should basically conftown me, but people are morons so...

That doesn't even make any fucking sense!

You didn't DO ANYTHING D1!

Why would that even have anything to do woth you, nevermind conftown you!?

I'm letting you get to me. Imma stop that.
Between you and Jackel though, I'm starting to wonder if there are Jesters in this game...

I'm one of the strongest scum players on site, and I've never let a scum mate or myself get lynched as scum day 1.

If I were buddies with Ika, Ika wouldn't have been lynched.

you were planning a prebus on tammy and I so don't even

[pirate mollie]

In any case, why couldn't you have popped in and voted Seraphim before being voted?

It makes me feel sad to have to threaten you to play with me.

Because it's easier to VCA when I'm not on wagons - it lets me build larger groups down the line.

Also, the bolded really skeeves me out.

wrt italicized: pfffttt

just go ahead and except your fate.

[pirate mollie]

like literally on 1 hand you said you are lynchbait yet on the other you are trying to justify your survivability.

eta: @ bro

[pirate mollie]

like literally on 1 hand you said you are lynchbait yet on the other you are trying to justify your survivability.

eta: @ bro

[pirate mollie]

I think if mollie is scum, scum have day talk. Reasoning behind it is pretty thin, but my gut's telling me that it's good.

who wld be my scum partners then?

[pirate mollie]

Obviously, BRO's gut is incredibly valuable to us.

it must be why he was not on the wagon and why he is saying he is lynchbait but he can narrow things down into groups which don't really follow a reasonable configuration at all!

[pirate mollie]

ftr you are always that guy

plus I was neighbourized last night with some1 who has utterly failed to show up.

his trolling initially looked town but I am having my doubts. not enough love.

I still think bro is scum and we shld vote him.

[pirate mollie]

so my guess is that we have a limited shot janitor!

[pirate mollie]

I wld love to know why boo has psyche as 100% townread

[pirate mollie]

@ boo: yeah no

[pirate mollie]

I dunno why scum would target Heartless. Lemme think. Hmmmm. Town leader, widely town-read, instrumental along with Mollie in getting Ika-scum lynched, accurate reads or fear of supersaint...

I got nothing :p

I love this post. it made me laugh.

boo, hostile intent is trolling and me and he won't stop even if i ask him to. even tho i have said that i clrly do not appreciate it.

I really want you to hear this.

I saved his ass from an L1 lynch in you cld be any1 and tried to save him again when scum!titus claimed a fake tracker result on him when I wanted scum!titus lynched. he was town. the thanks I got from the the first time I saved him was for him to continually vote me and fan the flames of garmr's death tunnel on me. and when I say death tunnel I am talking 400+ posts dedicated to me being a sk. I was town. garmr was town. it was the most painful game I have played ever and it was effecting every aspect of my life and it was dragged on for 2 months. nacho was worried that I was going to get suspended so he stepped in. I have already explained this.

plz don't feed HI. if he had tried to sign up I wld have wotc him. I am not happy that he is in this game and if he continues then I am gone. I will replace out. which sucks cos I am enjoying myself and it will just be another example of me having to replace out cos some1 else is being an asshole. and he is doing it deliberately.

I hope he gets vigged. cos tbh i think he might actually be asshole scum in this game.

[pirate mollie]

@ reina

I am really feeling seraph scum here. I also feel like it might be multiball with more than 1 scumteam hence why seraph said to heartless, "your scumteam has a role blocker" and his overreaching statements and also he just looks like caught scum.

what do you think.

[pirate mollie]

I already back-tracked and said you're not scum, so you can take your ego and kindly get the fuck over yourself. And Idk if maybe you weren't paying attention or not, but I kinda DID sign up before you, was on the list for a while, then opted out because reasons. And so fucking what you defended me. Scum never defends town? Oh okay. Because I'm pretty fucking positive I didn't know your alignment when that was going down. And don't fucking act liike you weren't ALSO on the front-fucking-line D1 trying to get me lynched.

You were the one I soft-claimed to.

You were the one that refused to believe the claim.

You pushed very hard before backing off.

Solid selective fucking memory though, bro. Bravo.

what i said int that game was, "the only time that I have seen some1 claim a fbi agent they were scum" and then I asked for your completed meta games. I looked at them and outshouted your lynch and even got called scum for it COS I HAD A RECENT COMPLETED GAME WHERE A NEWBSCUM PARTNER HAD CLAIMED FBI AGENT. BUT IT WLD BE REALLY RETARDED TO LEAVE A FBI AGENT ALIVE AS A SK AND CONTINUOUSLY FIGHT AGAINST THEIR LYNCH WHEN IT MATTERED.

yes I pushed you until i cld firm up a read. and then I went through effort to do so. which I did and backtracked and said you were town.

ask how many players in this game that I have pushed players to firm up a read or they have seen me other push players to firm up a read. the ceiling will fall with the speed and sheer volume of the hands that will raise.

I am asking you to cut the sk crap cos while when garmr started his whole shit nobody believed him but he wore the very pple who shld have known better down. and they were wondering if i actually was a sk.

this has nothing to do with ego but everything to do with me wanting you to stop. every time you bring that shit up you are deliberately picking at a healing wound cos I don't really believe that you believe that I am a sk in this game with an actual sk flip.

I know you said that you thought I was town in this game but you also added a "for now" disqualifier. which to me indicated you were going to continue calling me a sk. if you are unsure about me then say that but plz do not ride on the coattails of what is clearly your trolling a sore point with me.

do want something to troll me about? troll my age. nacho does it all of the time. troll that i don't shave my armpits. or anything else for that matter. troll me about god there are so many ways you cld troll me just don't pick on that 1.

while it may not seem like it to you, this is a reach out. you don't even have to put me as town, just stop with the sk crap. okay?

@ boo

it will be okay. let us duke it out, its best to get this stuff out of the way early. I oddly have faith in HI. even if we continue to bicker I just want to leave the personal stuff out cos that game got personal. I can't explain why but it did. I never want to reach that level again.

[pirate mollie]

calm down you're bean unintelligbe

^ troll extraordinaire spotted itt

[pirate mollie]

Anyone who thinks I'm scum is literally a dumbass who should never play mafia again

Personally I find it easier to read people who aren't engaging in grandoise posturing bullshit

A detailed read on someone who isn't mollie would help too, just because if you're paying attention mollie's pretty damn unlikely to be mafia given her push on ika yesterday.

what is pretty funny is that in capscom bro and I were scum together and I blew up at him and wis for trying to plan out who they were going to bus! he knows how I feel about d1 bussing that is why i really think he is scum!

[pirate mollie]

hey reina

y no vote on scum on d1 when the original reason you said you voted him was cos you trusted my read?

also what is up with your dithering.

[pirate mollie]

also also also

every argument you are applying to seraph applies to bro in which you hurriedly jumped off of as soon as it grew legs.

wats up with dat

[pirate mollie]

I think seraph is bleeding right now

so tell me more about why no poke at the person you originally started the wagon on?

[pirate mollie]

I am just trying to figure you out. that is all.

[pirate mollie]

@mollie-quote the arguments you're talking about for me (although i should have left to go do things like half an hour ago so I probably won't answer til late tonight)

are you asking why i'm not poking broseidon? he's not really giving anything to poke at, I asked him to give a read on not-you earlier and he hasn't bothered with it yet.

@heartless- I'm not trying to play coy, I'm just trying to explain why I'm doing the things I'm doing to the best of my ability, but it's a lot of explanations of gut feelings for what I've done around sera in particular so it isn't the easiest thing to actually explain. passive aggressive is probably fair, but the words I've said are how I feel about your play and changing them to be nicer would defeat the point of saying it in the first place.

I am asking you why no vote on d1 especially on ika. cos I wanna map out your reason for staying off that lynch. or any1 for that matter.

and then I am asking you as to why you are not applying the same logic to bro as you are to seraph right now so that I can understand.

@ anti

stop aggro-ing reina give him at least a bit of breathing room pretty plz?

[pirate mollie]

@ anti

stop aggro-ing reina give him at least a bit of breathing room pretty plz?

hahahahahaaahahahaahahaa

ha

that...

that's a good one mollie...

gamma wouldn't give tth the fucking time of day on the seraphim case but wants to give her this dismissive, supercilious, smug "well no one suspects me therefore it's scummy to suspect me" horse shit once she starts questioning him on the 180 on sera that YEAH, IS KIND OF WEIRD.

don't appreciate that. not standing for that.

at all.

if you think that I am missing tth's direction then you are missing the cues.

I care about reina's alignment wrt the game. don't be mean to him. I know gamma can take it and mebbe I shld just up. however I wld find it much more interesting if gamma laid out his thought progression as to why he didn't vote d1 when he said he wanted the hammer and why he is suddenly developing cold feet with the bro lynch which is reduced to "seraph didn't respond in the way I like and bro hasn't responded at all!" and he is dithering. which is what he did on d1. which is what I am trying to get to the heart of.

cos gamma is a friend. and before I get fullblown weird on him I wanna try to figure him out.

[pirate mollie]

Do you have a detailed read of someone who isn't mollie that you could share?

Sure - you're also someone I'd like to see dead. Same with Bookitty.

But Seraphim dies first. There's probably some town in there, but the odds of 3/4 or 4/4 being town in there I'd put at <10%

mastin and HI are incredibly fucking town, and I'm kind of curious why mastin isn't in here a bit more. Probably time restraints - I expect big things from her when she gets back, though, since she seems to be one of the few people here with her head on straight.

Boonskies is also probably town - the posting style reminds me of Inv. Inc. That's a fairly low-confidence read, though. The only touchpoint I have for Cheetory's play is a scum game, but the play here seems decently off that game, and he's asking a lot of the right questions.

Heartless is town but needs to just, like, stop for a while.

UNVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

who did you protect last night, bro?

mollie

so you protected me?

so can you walk me through your thought processes at the end of d1?

Votecount 1.18

ika (14) - pirate mollie, Flubbernugget, Heartless, Shaft, The Bulge, theamatuer, Cheetory6, Hostile Intent, PeregrineV, Varsoon, Psyche, Bookitty, boonskiies

Shaft (4) - mastin2, farside22, 4nxi3ty, Gilgamesh King Of Heroes
theamatuer (4) - Aeronaut, Seraphim, Aristophanes, Marquis
BROseidon (1) - Jackel98

pirate mollie (1) - BROseidon

Heartless (1) - ika
boonskiies (1) - BipolarChemist

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(expired on 2015-03-04 18:00:00).

where your vote is still on me and your first post today was:

Hi guys.

I'll probably start reading this N1. <3 you all

While I'm still waiting for a moment of clarity, I think we should definitely punish posts like these.

vote BRO

Ugh, I'm obviously not getting my lynch on BRO, so I'll have to compromise and actually read the game.
Mollie, how sure of you on this Ika read?

I had a snow day today, and tomorrow. And I will also
VOTE: BROseidon

HEY GUYS I FOUND IKA'S SCUMBUDDIES

Not sure what the context for this is, but Varsoon is probably town and I don't think Jackel is a bold enough player to close-follow a scumbuddy on a low-hanging fruit push.

Probably one scum in {

mollie

, Jackel}

cos you came out the gate wanting me lynched which does not match up with you having any sort of confidence in town!me whatsoever. a doc protects the player who they most townread and think are most likely going to get nked and your body of work so far simply does not support that.

[pirate mollie]

I typically attribute strong, decisive, out-the-gate play to town BRO and lurky until-needing-to-strike play to scum BRO.
Meta a shit, though.

thank you so much for volunteering to be the d3 lynch when bro flips scum!

VOTE: bro

I am catching up in case any1 can't tell

[pirate mollie]

i mean... i guess it's plausible that ika's flip changed your mind, but then that doesn't account for your push on mollie today

I love you.

[pirate mollie]

are we allowed to lynch someone who just claimed one of our important prs

yes

when their story doesn't fit their narrative and scummate varsoon is trying to cobble together reasons for vouching for them.

[pirate mollie]

And, from my perspective, let's say I doc protect someone I think is either a hot target for a kill (because they got scum lynched D1) or is bussing scum,
And then they don't die, but there's other kills on town,
In any normal setup, I'd think they aren't cleared from my doc target and possibly scum since they weren't the target the other night.
Maybe that's what's going on in BRO's head?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm the crazy one.

varsoon will feel unloved if I do not address this. so I will.

you don't think that scum wld have thought that I wld have been protected in lieu of a scumflip?

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE:

By the way, justsayin', totally called the BRO wagon being on town, and probably not being towndriven. I'll definitely need to give it a look at some point.

Also, justsayin', 4nxi3ty looks like scum to me.
V's potentially town, but not certainly so.

mastina y no love

[pirate mollie]

anti what posts have you liked cos I barely remember any of them

[pirate mollie]

that is a very large town list coming from paranoid freak you

[pirate mollie]

I don't see how varsoon is town from your eyes.

his d1 vote on bro was premature and it was a "I can't believe no1 thinks he is scum" which looks like a cheeky bus plus there is his today's defense of "I know for a FACT that bro is the doc!" and I don't understand how you can have bro in the mebbe scumpile but not varsoon.

[pirate mollie]

Here's your hydra dissonance, estival.

town: 4nxi3ty, Aristophanes,

Bookitty

,

Boonskiies

, Cheetory6,

Honey bee

,

Jackel98

,

Marquis

,

mastin2

, pirate mollie, Psyche,

Reina

, Seraphim, theamatuer,

Varsoon

Bolded are reads I either disagree with or don't think the evidence is there for.

can you plz walk me through why you think honeybee might be scum but anti has them as town?

[pirate mollie]

b-b-b-but gilly you are not voting bro

wassup

[pirate mollie]

ohhhhhhhhh shaaaaaaaaft

why no vote for bro????????

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE: bro

until shaft graces us with his lovely presence!

heartless if you think I have a brain at all plz unvote

[pirate mollie]

also if any1 votes seraph before we can sort some shit out will town plz take it as a scumclaim

[pirate mollie]

He did claim self-redirector here:

I am the Lumpy Space Princess. I have two abilities: one is my one-shot BP. The other is a two-shot self-redirector which takes a person's ability and redirects it to me that night. I took no action last night because it was not obvious who the scum were so I did not attempt to eat the kill...also I would not have been informed (WHICH IS WHY I ASKED IN THE FIRST PLACE) if I had been shot rendered my role useless as a quasi-Watcher type.

Him being demotivated actually kind of seems kind of bullshit in the context of this post.
I feel like he forgot that he claimed he was demotivated when he made this post. Like he's saying "oh the reason I didn't use any abilities last night was because of me being demotivated!" in one post and then in the next he's saying "oh I decided not to use my abilities".

VOTE: Seraphim

I feel like there's really no reason not to lynch him at this point. I really feel like he's scum and there's too many holes in the way he's been acting/his claim for me to be more comfortable with the idea of lynching anyone else. :/

cheetos goes into the naughty pile for a while until he understands DON"T FUCKING PUSH A LYNCH THROUGH UNTIL I SORT SHIT OUT.

[pirate mollie]

okay.

so I am sitting with 2 doc claims and that is what i am trying to sort out and neither make sense. it is making me insane. bro claiming to have protected me when he must have developed amnesia at the start of d2 cos he put me in his scum category early on which is definitive cog-dis on his part.

HI

, bro is not a derp, he isn't going to protect some1 whom he finds scummy.

the counter to this that is that bro broke down and went all emo which points more to town!bro than scum!bro. yet...bro knows this. as scum bro is very beep boop as in he is very calculated and I am seeing none of that here. I can see him freaking out that we are not in sync cos I can usually spot town!bro and will fight to the death to keep him from getting lynched cos he is such a strong player when he wants to be. I have seen him do nothing and be a confIC with an expiration date in the op on d1. I got so mad at him for that! so i am really torn about him.

the other claim I am having to sort has to do with the ut head mod meta and that I know ut comes up with the weirdest freaking roles which I both love/hate. quadzypants is not excused from this at all, in any way, shape or form, I just have more experience with ut going balls to the wall wrt roles that pretty much are based on a FUCK YOU PPLE LEARN HOW TO PLAY MAFIA mindset. again, quadzypants is not excluded from this at all. I feel like quadzypants is more conservative tho, and who knows ut cld be sneaking bourbon in his coffee for all we know. so enough trying to outguess the mods, I am fairly certain it will only lead to madness and I am nutty enough as it is. I just had to unburden myself.

so what i am left with is that I think scum really want a doc death.

[pirate mollie]

so what i am left with is that I think scum really want a doc death.

So you think BRO is more likely town?

Also why didn't Honey get put in the naughty pile too? :c

she is!

GO SIT IN THE NAUGHTY PILE HONEYB!!!

I CAN REALLY ONLY DO 1 THING AT A TIME AND I AM TRYING TO UNRAVEL SOME STUFF.

[pirate mollie]

but to answer the bro question:

claim + claimed night action + in thread behaviour doesn't add up.

basically, I am arguing with myself in my head (and sometimes out loud) about what is going on here. gut wise both feel like scum to me. I think scum wld not want me around cos of my role. no scum wants a doublevoter around especially if they hit scum on d1.

unfortunately this turns me into a paranoid freakshow of a player and I am trying to find a paper bag to breath into.

[pirate mollie]

Passive info. I know certain setup stuff.

Without revealing too much, night actions and how my role works combine to make me think it'd be too scum-sided and heavy swing if BRO was scum.
:/

you just made a third doc claim you and bro need to fucking die ot out the specifics of your roles cos I stick with my theory that you tried to bus bro in the most awkward way on d1 and you are now trying to protect him cos you realize that you fucked up.

[pirate mollie]

To explain the demotivation thing, it looks like a night action because it was specifically referencing my lack of action. I got it before the beginning of Day 2.

why wld you get this as a bp?

[pirate mollie]

also varsoon has not outed who he protected just thought that i wld point this out.

[pirate mollie]

I am flat out sick of the half outs running around and if you do not full claim I am lynching you seraph.

[pirate mollie]

I have a new opinion

that opinion is fuck everything that's currently happening

VOTE: Hostile Intent
estival i will also probably consider but I don't want to read things right now.

this vote is shit gamma and you know it

[pirate mollie]

To explain the demotivation thing, it looks like a night action because it was specifically referencing my lack of action. I got it before the beginning of Day 2.

this is not a full claim. this is the first that i have heard about you having another action other than bp. unless i am missing something from your iso. if I am, cld you plz point it out?

[pirate mollie]

I am also a Doctor!

so far i have doc claims from bro, boo, shaft, varsoon, psycke, mastina, aniety, honey, heartless, ut, quadzypants, seraph, reina and jackel and I just want to try to keep all of this straight!

[pirate mollie]

Psyche, I call BS on your doctor claim. Nuff said.

If we have a vig or another SK, this would be a great kill for tonight.

don't ignore me

[pirate mollie]

also just so you pple know where my heart lies....

VOTE: shaft

[pirate mollie]

@Varsoon: When have you ever been told as a doctor that you successfully protected someone? The only way I have EVER known if my protection was successful was from a missing kill. How would BRO have known for sure if his protect was used or not, please?

There's matters of deduction.
Let's say you protect X.
Let's assume scum has only one kill available.
X does not die.
You can assume (other claims pending) that you protected that person from the kill.

Outside of that, nah, you'd have to figure out shniz and shnaz.
Look, it's not as useful for clearing people as cop, but it can be used to clear folks.
We're just in a closed setup, so, eh, I don't care that much about shenanigans outside of seeing that my role gets the most utility for town,
and my role lets me know there's a doctor. It's not a fake-claim, at least.

then full claim

[pirate mollie]

Psyche, I call BS on your doctor claim. Nuff said.

If we have a vig or another SK, this would be a great kill for tonight.

don't ignore me

I haven't ignored you, if anything you have ignored the answers to my questions if you think I've been ignoring you.

I am gonna restate this.

what other night action do you have other than bp that you know that you were demotivated?

cos I am asking you to spell it out here. cos no, you have not full claimed.

[pirate mollie]

oh yeah I thought you were talking bullshit cos it sounded like bullshit and actually the claim sounds much more likely to come from scum than town.

[pirate mollie]

but plz humour me

if you didn't use your 2 shot redirector and you claim being demotivated then how wld you know that you were demotivated if you didn't use your night action? I find this interesting since you didn't seem to believe for 1 second that heartless was notified if their bp was used up cos they were told by the mods it was.

[pirate mollie]

I will humor you but I refuse to link you to any more posts lol. Do your own grunt work.

I have no idea why, Mollie; I suspect, however,

that even if I was VT I would have gotten that PM

. It has nothing to do with whether or not I used an action but rather everything to do with the fact that the action was used on me.

Also to clarify, I didn't believe that Heartless was told because I asked the mods about my own BP and they told me that I would not notified like Heartless had just claimed they had been. I saw two identical role abilities/qualities being treated differently and called bullshit.

okay so why did you have such a problem with heartless saying they knew that there bp was used up cos that is the part that does not make sense and which I am asking you to quantify.

[pirate mollie]

i mean... i guess it's plausible that ika's flip changed your mind, but then that doesn't account for your push on mollie today

Uh...

you guyz can either get on the happy bro wagon or do something that might or might not require some sort of srs bodily injury to your...something. I will think of sufficient dire threats later.

plz vote bro tia

Wow, I thought you were frustration-wagoning me.

Let's selectively pick evidence, then say other evidence might exist while blatantly ignoring that it actually exists!

Also, to answer all the "why did you target mollie" questions at once:

1) My day 1 reads this game were about as sturdy as a fat person on wicker furniture.
2) Mollie drove the Ika wagon
3) My only consideration in who to protect is not only "who do I think is likely town," but also "Who do I think, if they are town, is likely to get shot." Even though my read on mollie wasn't super-town, it was town enough so that, when combined with how likely I thought that she was to get shot if she's town, that she made the most sense.
4) I already said that there's modifications to my role. They influence my targeting decisioning.

okay so why did come out the gate thinking I was scum? cos that is the part you are not really covering.

[pirate mollie]

On day 1?

Something about how I was getting arbitrarily wagoned for no discernible reason on like page 5. I don't remember at this point.

I didn't vote you on d1 so i am not sure what you are talking about. I did vote you in this day round tho.

I feel like you are not reading the thread and all i can say is I think you probably should!

[pirate mollie]

bro read the fucking thread if you are town it will greatly piss me off if you are freaking missing the huge bakeries I have left in this thread when you cannot even be bothered to try.

[pirate mollie]

hey bro lemme get your attention for 5 seconds and tell you to read the goddamn thread cos there is something going on that if you are town I need you to help me sort which directly involves you mebbe this will get your attention if I make it about you

[pirate mollie]

okay.

so I am sitting with 2 doc claims and that is what i am trying to sort out and neither make sense. it is making me insane. bro claiming to have protected me when he must have developed amnesia at the start of d2 cos he put me in his scum category early on which is definitive cog-dis on his part.

HI

, bro is not a derp, he isn't going to protect some1 whom he finds scummy.

the counter to this that is that bro broke down and went all emo which points more to town!bro than scum!bro. yet...bro knows this. as scum bro is very beep boop as in he is very calculated and I am seeing none of that here. I can see him freaking out that we are not in sync cos I can usually spot town!bro and will fight to the death to keep him from getting lynched cos he is such a strong player when he wants to be. I have seen him do nothing and be a confIC with an expiration date in the op on d1. I got so mad at him for that! so i am really torn about him.

the other claim I am having to sort has to do with the ut head mod meta and that I know ut comes up with the weirdest freaking roles which I both love/hate. quadzypants is not excused from this at all, in any way, shape or form, I just have more experience with ut going balls to the wall wrt roles that pretty much are based on a FUCK YOU PPLE LEARN HOW TO PLAY MAFIA mindset. again, quadzypants is not excluded from this at all. I feel like quadzypants is more conservative tho, and who knows ut cld be sneaking bourbon in his coffee for all we know. so enough trying to outguess the mods, I am fairly certain it will only lead to madness and I am nutty enough as it is. I just had to unburden myself.

so what i am left with is that I think scum really want a doc death.

This is the aforementioned wall, before someone pointlessly asks about it.

so you didn't really read it the first time did you? and I notice you are not giving an opinion about it

[pirate mollie]

are we allowed to lynch someone who just claimed one of our important prs

yes

when their story doesn't fit their narrative and scummate varsoon is trying to cobble together reasons for vouching for them.

Bad mollie. You lost Wicked because of this shit - I expect you not to make the same mistakes.

bad bro. i didn't even vote you and did not agree with the vote you have penny claiming bad meta on you and bert believing her over me don't motherfucker that shit at my feet I told every1 nacho was scum and pple were too chickenshit to lynch him

don't you dare bring that shit up

[pirate mollie]

I don't understand this shaft wagon. It seems like another "let's lynch a random lurker" while super scummy non-lurkers exist.

I really wish you wld just fucking trust me once in a while

[pirate mollie]

And Bookitty yes most females do have such drama, even on this site which is why the LOL and it didn't even involve me which is why your naivety is sweet and funny. I'm not terribly evil in RL either but if a basic bitch messes with me then she's going to be put down. It must be nice to never have been part of the cliquery.

mebbe they crying at how terribad at mafia you are I mean I have only known you 5 minutes and I already kind of want to start crying myself as well gauge my eyeballs with a very dull butter knife and then rip out my own intestines and hang myself with them.

the only 1 who is me dramatic and emotional is you which is ironic.

this is a bad cw on an unlikeable player to the beautiful scum lynch on shaft who i am pretty sure he is scum for how he is acting in our hood. I am giving him 20 minutes to do something amazing and then I am going to outline why this is such a glorious lynch.

cheery if you do not stop tunneling I will knock the shit out of you.

[pirate mollie]

shaft is mad at me now.

[pirate mollie]

Read over the page of the game (and the next page too I think) where estival reacts to jackal's saying he's a townie with information and that he thinks estival is scum.

This is #1778 by the way, jackal saying he's a townie with information is on the page before that, his reactions to me are on the same page as 1778 and the page after I think.

@cheetory- >.> I saw someone else do it and thought it was a nickname

usually I call him cheetos.

@ reina who i am supposed to pretend isn't gamma.

I hear what you are saying, now plz listen to me; I know of the site that he comes from and they are all like that except 1 or 2. all of them.

when I was looking at my spreadsheet I just now realized that he had taken over the bpc slot so yeah he cld be scum cos bpc was a bit of a scumread of mine.

I am trying to talk to shaft who is making me feel bad but I think we have very different approaches. he is shutting down.

[pirate mollie]

mollie, are you townreading Bookitty? Why?

she is in the town pile for the time being. is it just her entrance on d1 or is there more to it than that.

[pirate mollie]

pirate mollie, have we played with you? Or you just know of it? Yes, we are all theatrical and dramatic and a bit crazy.

heartless, my reaction is partially because scum try to latch onto me. In a game like this, with 27 players and one day's worth of content, wagons, reads, anyone going after me is ignoring the elephant in the room. Why?

no I have never played on that site I wld not touch it with a 10 ft pole. I have just run across several of you and it just seems like it takes forever to get you guys out of your bad habits. I am just familiar with the mindset and I think you are being called scum cos your playstyle but bpc was a useless lurksack so there is that. at least you are playing.

anyways shaft making me feel bad is working cos I adore him but I also know how slimey he can be as scum so meh. he wishes i didn't out us but I feel like it is in town's best interest in order to eliminate hood bs later. there are some key points that i am not understanding wrt where he is coming from tho.

UNVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

mollie, are you townreading Bookitty? Why?

she is in the town pile for the time being. is it just her entrance on d1 or is there more to it than that.

There are things that are

just

off.

She's going to great lengths to talk about how much she believes us about farside's invention and that's making me paranoid. There's also the recent behavior around the swirling Shaft and estival wagons. She's been working with you this whole time with her votes, which would make sense if you were town reading each other and trying to work more efficiently at game solving. Given that, it's weird she didn't acknowledge the Shaft wagon you're championing and went straight for a policy lynch vote on estival (Post 1833). That's an anomaly.

Another thing that really pinged me was the way she responded to Antihero a while back in Post 1319. When Anti outlined vague gut suspicion of her, she went

straight

for Anti's weak spot: guilt. One way I've seen scum try to shake Anti off their trail is to play on his shame and make him feel like a dick for pushing them. Irritatingly he usually backs off, especially if the person is question happens to have two X chromosomes . The most recent example where I had this problem was with Anti and Titus in Open 581. That game made me go on an hour long tirade about which parts of his brain he was thinking with and why he was falling for Titus' stupid AtE. I thought he learned his lesson, but I guess old habits die hard.

If Bookitty has experience with Anti or his hydras, which she indicated she did in Post 1553, she knows which of his buttons to push. The paranoid part of me says it's a manipulative ploy.

well I am falling for shaft's aTe in the hood which is very mild but he sounds so defeatist it is making me feel bad. so i think it is more that anti genuinely doesn't want to be a dick to some1 as likeable as boo. can you point me to the posts where she did that tho?

I am looking at the 2 wagons on d1 and they are pretty interesting. ika was lynched with 13 votes while what comes closest to a competing wagon is shaft at 4. so i am guessing there was a bit of bussing going on? of the 4 on shaft far flipped town while on ika bulge flipped town. I find the lack of a proper cs to be very interesting.

[pirate mollie]

pirate mollie, what do you think the bad habits are?

where do i start?

arrogance, insisting your reads are correct and every1 listen to you while not listening to any1 else, the strangest scumhunting that I have ever seen, insentience on all people who vote you are scum eve if there are 12 players voting you, the list can go on. but the biggest thing that I find a bit disturbing is the total lack of working with your fellow team, which points to a dysfunctional group dynamic. it seems that there is some imbalance there somewhere cos nearly every single player who has come from there seems to have this need to prove themselves and tell every1 what great scumhunters they are.

I think you did have a bit of a meltdown and thats okay cos I can see why, you felt like you were getting strung up for shitty reasons. which unfortunately is null. you are seeming kind of townish but I dunno. gut wise I really feel it is shaft and you are his cw. its the timing of it mostly pushed by reina and it does not help that bro whom I am townreading thinks reina is scum. so i am trying to sort things out as much as you are.

@ tth

it sounds like you and anti just differ on reads. I didn't flirt with him in our game I mean I signed all my posts "I love nacho" or "iln". it sounds like he just goes soft on the players he likes.

[pirate mollie]

Heartless has to believe that a bulletproof or a doctor was responsible for the survival of whomever shot them. Yet they seem to have abandoned this idea and are pushing suspicions elsewhere.

w/ 27 players and 4 kills at play, there's more than just a 1-shot bp + doc in kill stopping potential

well.

1 of them was a due to a pgo according to you.
2. the other is presumably the sk.
3. you say scum targeted you but didn't die.
4. the sk seems to be the vig kill.

so if scum don't target you with the sk gone that only leaves 2 nks. I had this exact same convo with shaft in the hood. can you plz explain as to why you still think there will be 4 nks with the sk dead and townie in their right mind targeting you?

[pirate mollie]

*not targeting you

[pirate mollie]

ok fine 3 kills + ~random killing potential~. i doubt we're the only ones (pgo+supersaint just for us, probably more out there; think bombs, vengefuls, and shit)

when you design games, you don't necessarily plan for the sk to die early so they probably put in more protectives than just 1-shot bp+doc for every alignment.

what about the inventor you a bp vest?

[pirate mollie]

so you now think that there are 2+ or more protectives running around to guard against nks? a protective does not even protect against a vengeful so wtf

[pirate mollie]

MOLLIE WHAT ARE YOU NEEDLING AT AT THIS POINT? THIS ISN'T A MINI GAME. THIS IS A 27 PLAYER ROLE MADNESS. EVERYONE'S NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE. THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY OF EACH TYPE OF ROLES OUT THERE.

the more killing you have, the more protectives you put in to compensate for it. it's a p simple formula. it doesn't have to necessarily offset EVERY kill attempt.

and if we were going to restrict the lynch to BRO or sera just on the basis of that, no one piped up before. and that's a p asinine idea to begin with.

I am needling you cos I am trying to lock down on what you are saying! I find it incredibly strange that you presuming more protective roles than we have evidence of nks for like that is just bizarre and 9 times out of 10 you make sense and this time you just aren't. and I try to get you to explain it you just avoid it and deflect.

[pirate mollie]

because your whole premise is that we have a bunch of protectives running around cos quadz and ut are too boring and uncreative and unimaginitive to think of other 1s not because we had a bunch of body parts flying around in a bloody mess cos there were so many deaths on n1. the argument just seems specious to me.

anyways I am letting it go

[pirate mollie]

ok

bottom line

do you think we should lynch one of bro or sera b/c of it?

y/n

i say n

not today.

I just checked back over estuvia's posts and i am kind of seeing what is talking about with the rapid shift in tone. tempted to sheep gamma cos it will firm up a read. thing is they are claiming vengeful in which no1 is really gonna wanna hammer that unless we are pretty convinced that he is scum and if he is town scum aren't going near it. so its ugh but I feel like his role that I don't mind pl-ing and I am back to waffling on the read just cos of that shift in mood in when it clearly wasn't serving him.

[pirate mollie]

I am most likely going to vote with reina cos it is rare that reina reaches out like this and I see what he is saying. I am not exactly dazzled by estuvia's post or reasoning there is a weird cog-dis to them but again, I find it common from people from that play group.

I find it funny how estuvia keeps discrediting reina in the most bizarre ways. I think estuvia is suffering from played-5-gamitis which fits from his viewpoints.

it is the rapid mood changes that is baking my noodle. estuvia was called for getting all meltydowney, got defensive about it and then changed their approach and instantly tried to appear more reasonable. to me this points to a more self-conscious survivalistic mindset which in my opinion is scummy. I see this come a lot from newbs tho but I am just leanig scumy at this point.

I am not as confident as I was about shaft. he basically just gave up as he was catching up in the thread and I am not used to seeing such defeatism in shaft and I have seen more of his scum games than his town games. he basically was just like, "you do what you feel like you need to do". cos i was talking about being transparent about our convos. I am just going to give him a bit of time.

anyhoo that is where I am at.

sorry

[pirate mollie]

If this is what you believe then demand town to have Reina hammer me. It's the only way this isn't going to be one of those fucktardingly boring games where every day the same moronically inclined bring up the same people for stupid reasons.

Reina, again do you have what it takes?

see, I wanna give you a chance but you do realize this is d2 and that scum were lynched on d1? you seem to be somehow missing this which it isn't uncommon to pivot the game from an OMGUS!town perspective and if you actually are town you need to get a grip. cos you are not helping yourself here. if you are familiar with google spreadsheets then go create 1! I use them all of the time depends on the game! then go back and make a playerlist of claims, nks, etc and organize them in a way that you can understand the flow of the game cos you are missing it.

[pirate mollie]

Ika was an easy lynch handed on a platter. You're the elitist so I'm sure you can do better than me. Except that I'm watching it unfold and the elitism seems more like self aggrandizing.

Anyone's who's ever played with ika knows that he likes to play town and that he doesn't enjoy scum. It's hard to call that a town win when you know the meta.

My method confirms a couple of things in a more high stakes way and confirms bs from non bs.

lets break this down.

how am i an elitist exactly when I am reaching out to you? that does not exactly fit the elitist profile now does it.

I am trying to pull you back down to planet earth cos you are orbiting in space by yourself and you feel like lost town but there is also the factor that I am thinking of endgame and if I want you to be in it cos you are approaching the game with a bit of a distorted view. you seem to have a chip fuck a BOULDER on your shoulder that you need to unload.

dgb has this theory that if you shake out the weakest link in a scumteam the rest will follow. I sort of agree that the markers point to shaft in fact I was already there then shaft felt so defeatist in our hood so ugh. if you don't understand that the same empathy that moves me to be hesitant to vote shaft cos we well we kind of know each other is the same empathy that makes me want to reach out to you then I don't know what to say. cos I have been where you are and I know how much it sucks to feel left out but I know 1 common thing from your group is that you guys lash out regardless of alignment.

I disagree about ika being an easy lynch. you probably know ika better than most of the players here except for me.

you seem kind of sincere with your plan to move forward in a way that wld catch out who you think might be scum!reina but you also have a negativity role soyeah. it sounds like you are trying to use it in a positive way tho from your perspective.

reina is not a surefire town read for me mostly cos I know how reina is. he can be oh so evil in games. outside of games he is a beautiful person and friend so stop the negging on him yeah?

show me good judgment. show me your work. that way players don't have to worry about you lasting too long running around with bad judgment and scum can't hide behind a pl on you. for me, your lashing out makes it hard to parse your alignment especially since I know most of you guys on the sites you are from do it all of the time as i said, regardless of alignment.

what I don't understand is this whole rampant "omg there 20 protective roles running around cos it is a 27 players running around!" when the death toll does not indicate that at all. I wld expect some negativity protective roles to be in play if they were more like reflexive jk or something like that.

[pirate mollie]

Witchhunt? No one's ever played witchhunt on this site? (http://chocolatepi.net/)


At least two people referred to me as witch so I assume some people do know of it.

who referred to you as a witch cos I don't remember that. cld you plz link it?

[pirate mollie]

estival who are your townreads?

[pirate mollie]

@cheetory- actually sera said he'd revote est if the wagon got big enough, mollie's considering it and is a double voter, Gilga has a probably decent chance of voting estival once he posts if he's actually caught up, and psyche i'd think would vote est too?

i am not exactly understanding why with his claim you are not considering him as a vig especially since you think it might be scum aligned? cos this tells me that you take his claim srsly but want him to be lynched *just in case* he is scum when I think it is kind of obvs we have a vig!

[pirate mollie]

*vig kill

I am not understanding why you wld not want him vig killed!

[pirate mollie]

i guess i'll explain anyway

i don't think it's likely at all est is a real supersaint. the purpose of claiming when she did was solely to threaten people off of her wagon. but because she claimed supersaint it's slightly more likely that she's scum and a supersaint than normal.
it'd be nice if we could point that at another possible scum and if she is a scum supersaint force the kill to go where we want but given that a third of the game seems to think that blatant lying, intentional manipulation, and obvious scum motivation is just because *oh THOSE SILLY newbies* I'm willing to hammer if it'll actually make her dead.

So yeah est I'll unvote once you get to L-1.

okay so who do you think that wld point to given a scenario where scum!estuvia is a scum supersaint and some1 hammered? do you think that scum wld hammer a scummate and then die a sacrificial death paring down their numbers after losing a scummate on d1? really?

a natural town thought process for a player that you don't understand is "hey he might be telling the truth or playing chicken here with town (if you really thought he was scum) let him be vigged!".

and you aren't looking at this from that perspective at all.

in which you shld be, since you know that there are town players who will not read the game and hammer just because. I personally want them banished into a fiery furnace of hell but unfortunately I have this wc to meet and can't afford to do that.

[pirate mollie]

mollie, has Shaft mentioned any players in this game in your hood? If yes can I get a quick summary of who, and possibly what?

BROseidon, is Seraphim scum with ika, or on a separate scumteam?

Why'd you ask, where were you going with this?

Bro, why are you scumreading flubbernugget?
(I thought his comments about bulge cheet D1 and sera D2 sounded decent, sorta towny vibe)

he hasn't.

are you tooling around with the idea that this is multiball but that there was a surprisingly lack of nks and that is why a bunch pple are running around saying that there are a bunch of protective roles? cos I have been eating those paranoia flakes since 10 am and I am so trying to reign it in and apply a little occams but all i hear is crickets whenever I try to bring it up!

[pirate mollie]

it just seems like some pple have inside knowledge of set up design that i don't have.

the biggest red flag was from anti where he said that there wld be a protective role for each faction when at the time I was looking at only 3 kills and 1 attempted. sk, pgo, vig and then scum. but there seems to be this weird anticipation of multiple deaths when the d2 op does not point to that. but the weird assumption of multiple protective roles kind of does!

okay I need a break.

[pirate mollie]

it just seems like some pple have inside knowledge of set up design that i don't have.

the biggest red flag was from anti where he said that there wld be a protective role for each faction when at the time I was looking at only 3 kills and 1 attempted. sk, pgo, vig and then scum. but there seems to be this weird anticipation of multiple deaths when the d2 op does not point to that. but the weird assumption of multiple protective roles kind of does!

okay I need a break.

the biggest red flag was from anti where he said that there wld be a protective role for each faction when at the time I was looking at only 3 kills and 1 attempted. sk, pgo, vig and then scum. but there seems to be this weird anticipation of multiple deaths when the d2 op does not point to that. but the weird assumption of multiple protective roles kind of does!

there are so many things wrong with this.....

>i never said there would be a protective for each faction. in fact, sk didn't get a protective. i said spread across all factions
>d2 op has 3 deaths, i have no idea what you're talking about in the rest of the post

i have no idea what you're getting weird with me over b/c what i said was pretty straightforward

I don't

want

to butt in on this conversation because I don't know the first thing about game design but it looks like I have to since you two are talking past each other and mollie's suspecting us for a reason that is completely escaping my comprehension.

Is the hang-up on the number of protective specials?

To me, it seems like there would be more than 3 people with protective or some sort of kill interference aspect to their role if for no other reason than due to sheer volume. If no one is vanilla and there's 27 roles, I would have to think there's more than just 3 opportunities at kill stopping but that's little more than a blind guess.

May I ask why this is important or worth talking about? How did this even come up because I'm reading this series of posts and I don't get it. Is it about Seraphim and BROseiden and why we're not lynching one of them because of the "protective" thing or am I misinterpreting that?

because it is the shittiest argument in the world that the reason there are so many protective roles are cos we have 27 players and critic cld not come up with anything else. it is the exact same argument anti used and all you managed to do it is prettify it up with different words but the shitty premise is the same. when i pressed anti he never really addressed my point all he did was avoid and deflect.

I have played critic's games before and 1 thing I know for sure is that they do not lack creativity. so why is there this assumption of a bunch of protective roles running around other than the claimed 1s? I mean the "sheer volume" argument does not get anymore specious.

[pirate mollie]

Okay, then I misunderstood what you were getting at.

That reduces the number of protective roles claimed or known to three.

can you point me to the post that you thought that reina was claiming a protective role? cos I never thought that once ever.

also can you plz explain to me in detail your psyche read. cos he looks like trolololololol scum!psyche to me the same 1 who was nommed for his trolling in graveyard and I am curious how you can spot the difference.

[pirate mollie]

also can you plz explain to me in detail your psyche read. cos he looks like trolololololol scum!psyche to me the same 1 who was nommed for his trolling in graveyard and I am curious how you can spot the difference.

[pirate mollie]

nm I can see how you feel you answered this. i was hoping for a personal read tho cos you had him as town on d1.

[pirate mollie]

Lynching people who are being replaced to help out the mod and make the game go faster.

They too often flip town, though, so I am giving it up for Lent.

@Mollie: Hmmmm, day one I was thinking about the Cheet-insurance-Psyche thing and the whole gestalt of that. What does it mean, what is Cheet, can Cheet be trusted? One thing I remember is that Cheetory claimed to target Psyche before the game actually started. That means it's not alignment indicative so far as I can tell (I think if Cheetory knew who was scum and who was town, he would tell us).

So I had a mild townread on Mastin, which sort of slopped over onto Psyche, with an extra helping of Hey, what are you doing taking out insurance on a mild townread of mine?

It wasn't the most solid townread ever and it depended on a lot of circumstantial evidence. The Reina thing was what pushed it over the edge to a conftown to me.

see, I found it strange that cheetos wld give psyche an insurance policy based on a cold read cos as far as I know psyche doesn't play a whole lot of games unless he has a heck of a lot more alts than I suspect and cheetos knows 1 of them that isn't public knowledge.

why were you townreading mastina? my first gut reaction was that she was scum.

I think the bastard elements are likely that town shld not presume what roles are in play based on their role pm and flips.

also who said the meddler was a roleblocker cos I want to suspect them. my first thought was tailor/framer and I looked it up to try to get clear and i all got on ms was dramalama's game.

[pirate mollie]

@ mod - vc pretty plz with sugar on top?

[pirate mollie]

also ty gamma

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: estival

[pirate mollie]

for some strange reason that I cannot fathom I am so good with this lynch right now.

[pirate mollie]

You're wasting your time. Not that I think you care, but, yeah. That's not happening today. Especially not without a case or something.

Yours was really good. It left me speechless.

Mollie, this is funny to me. I mean not the town wastage which is sad but overall. I plan to ramp up being here just to entertain the masses at the gallows.

I think reina shld play chicken with you.

or HI.

[pirate mollie]

HEY VONNY!

ESTUVIA IS AT L1 ARE YA GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAMMER?

also I have been watching godzilla for like the last hour and I can't remember a thing that happened but I heard screams so I thought I wld pay attention.

[pirate mollie]

HEY VONNY!

ESTUVIA IS AT L1 ARE YA GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAMMER?

also I have been watching godzilla for like the last hour and I can't remember a thing that happened but I heard screams so I thought I wld pay attention.

What did he claim?

estuvia claimed supersaint and I think you shld hammah

[pirate mollie]

Molliekins, I haven't claimed that in particular.

Am I at L1?

I think you are at L1

[pirate mollie]

I honestly am getting a little wary of you Heartless. For reasons that are probably obvious.
If estival is town then I wouldn't mind a check on Heartless for sanity's sake.

Why, because of the supersaint thing or because you don't think I can get a town read right?

worried?

[pirate mollie]

reina is not a surefire town read for me mostly cos I know how reina is. he can be oh so evil in games. outside of games he is a beautiful person and friend so stop the negging on him yeah?

What if I told you Reina is one of my strongest scum reads?

then I wld reply that I cld see it!

cos I can never read him. even f2f.

[pirate mollie]

Whoops reread my role

call down meteor on estival

put up or shut up

[pirate mollie]

bro

tell me about your feelings of a varsoon lynch tia

[pirate mollie]

So yeah scumfucks you''ll have to kill me at night because you can't daykill me.

I was going to replace at one point because this game has some repulsive people but then I Thought, hey I can't be killed during the day so I can do whatever the fuck I want and scum will have to waste a kill on me at night to shut me up.

Surprise

TEST IT BITCHES

can we lynch this already

[pirate mollie]

I love all the pple who are not spamming this thread.

[pirate mollie]

I love all the pple who are not spamming this thread.

but mollie

after-lynch thread spamming is good for the soul

b-b-b-but

[pirate mollie]

Oh it's mollie. Ok ignore the last paragraph of the above post.

its a good thing you have scummates to tell you these things huh

[pirate mollie]

The reason we're not wagoning Vonflare right now is that people are really insistent that Shaft is scum and they want him dealt with right now.

I'm only meh-convinced.

However, I'm also paralysed by not caring very much, so I'm willing to wait til tomorrow and see if I feel all inspired to push the Vonflare wagon to its logical conclusion with the help of my trusted friends or if I'm still demotivated or if I'm dead and left in the ShallowGraveByTheSideofTheRoad (TM).

why exactly are you unwilling to play at this time?

[pirate mollie]

also I don't give a shit anymore.

I give up. I flat out give up. I think this game is scumsided just based on sheer numbers and I think there is only 1 team.

[pirate mollie]

The reason we're not wagoning Vonflare right now is that people are really insistent that Shaft is scum and they want him dealt with right now.

I'm only meh-convinced.

However, I'm also paralysed by not caring very much, so I'm willing to wait til tomorrow and see if I feel all inspired to push the Vonflare wagon to its logical conclusion with the help of my trusted friends or if I'm still demotivated or if I'm dead and left in the ShallowGraveByTheSideofTheRoad (TM).

why exactly are you unwilling to play at this time?

I'm playing. I'm voting Shaft.

I'm just not terribly motivated to do so. I feel weird about talking to Heartless because of the "emotionally manipulative" thing, so I don't feel like talking to them right now. Estival is making everything an ad hominem attack and apparently she's going to be a fixture throughout the rest of the game.

Not very motivated to put in major effort when I don't see a point to it at the moment.

okay so why not vote estuvia?

[pirate mollie]

okay so why not vote estuvia?

I did. She's lynchproof.

She was lynched and the last vote never counts.

yeah I see it now

[pirate mollie]

She doesn't you fucking goob.

Vintage pirate mollie tho. I look forward to how many reiterations of the "I quit" angle she can craft. Its pretty entertaining at this point, given her astute opinion of me.

wat did I say about you again

other than your digs at me are boring

[pirate mollie]

When people threaten to quit, I like to post after them with a "replace the fuck out then" post until they either do so or stop, "whiny whiny whine whine". I find it funny.

Also damn Seraphim that was bad. Like wtf? AT least you claim to intent to hammer so town can possibly crumb stuff or last comments and stuff.

wld you like me to replace out then?

[pirate mollie]

I think I was pretty clear that there are players who I think are pretty good!

answer the question plz

do you want me to replace out cos HI isn't going to stop with his baiting of me no matter what I say. I have been through this before.

[pirate mollie]

I am elated tbh.

can we give credit for aero trolling us in the thread and making us think that psyche was his scum partner in the zombie thread? cos that totally happened.

[pirate mollie]

also seriously major props to like pretty much all the other townies

Having enough people having done clearly town-motivated actions and making good enough protections and investigations to the point where a backup SK can only get a single mislynch before getting cornered is pretty astounding

aand <3 the mods for the setup and running everything!

^this

thank you quadzypants and ut!

[pirate mollie]

Since it was brought up elsewhere, and this is really feared towards Mollie and reina and maybe Bookitty, was my play crossing the lines in terms of appropriateness? I'm aware that I can be highly emotionally charged but I'm not sure how bad it was in this game objectively.

is this a srs question to me?

I only ask cos I am much worse than you when I lose my temper and I regretted it every time. I have calmed down a lot but it is only cos of the love of a gorgeous man.

well that and commune love.

you were fine my dearest do think I wld fight gamma over just any1?