(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[shos]

@Mastin - Did you change the grapes to a melon?

(Although if that were the case, if she changed the specifics of my night action, what else might she change?)

This is scumposting.
It is so fucking fake; as if any player, as dumv as can be, thinks the mod can answer that in thread. If you really wabted to kbow that, youd PM him.

[shos]

Fake does

[shos]

I doubt ge is dumb. He is just pretending. He'll be sorted out later though.

[shos]

One question anything...

Why not

"Who are all the scum? Lols"

Probably yes or no question

[shos]

pv doesnt have any reason to lie

He does to save Shos.

You truly are braindead.

What role could I possibly be apart from cult leader(lol) that he would want me saved so much? With so many kills, him lying that way would juat result in both me and him dead, if we were partners.

[shos]

Holy shit titus, holy shit.

[shos]

when these four slots are getting killed, this game is going to die with it, lol.

<<< I certainly hope nothing kills my game. >>>

[shos]

Zar, I have absolutely no idea why you would go so crazy for lynching me. no idea. at all. there's a sane guilty and an unknown sanity guilty, and you push the wrong one.
Titus, I have no idea what came into you that made you 180 and then go so fucking hard against me, with no further info apart from a sane guilty claim.

also re: "a strong scum presence" (me). let's assume for a second that I am a scum cop, shall we?
how does that hurt town?
scum will try to shoot other factions, right?

the only thing I can ever see happening here is a scumteam comprised of {prohawk, blizZard} and possibly {titus} too, and Pro is some divine being that is so important that they are trying to save him.


maybe hippie is a cult, and pro is the leader?

[shos]

or dictator is a cult, with him being the dictator?

[shos]

Mathdino, theelkspeak's slot, faded out of existence early D1.

Also what is this?

<<< A flavorful way of saying that Mathdino was replaced by theelkspeaks. >>>

[shos]

alright zar, entertain me.

there is a hippie team
there is a communist team
there is a fascist team
there is a dictator team

let's assume I am, say, a scum cop which is hippie
would I try to cop other teams' members? would I want town to lynch the other scum?
will lynching a dictator hurt town?
will lynching a fascist hurt town?

...I don't get it. I mean, your worst case scenario, is pro-town.

[shos]

Oh right, I forgot that.

Go on then.

pedit: later..

[shos]

@Muffin, by not questioning the PV guilty.

I don't get it.

so me and you we both have a sentence in our role PM and in our results that implies heavily that our sanity can be anything.
then PV comes and says 'this is not a scumread, it is actual scum', hinting that he knows he is sane.

so, how does that make me scum again?

[shos]

why can there not be a guaranteed sane cop?
and why can there not be a 1-shot genie of some sort?

[shos]

????

I still fail to see how this makes me scum, btw

[shos]

no there shouldnt a wtf. read 3725 again.

Yes there should. A cop claim, especially where one is against your role pm and you fill in details, shpuld be questioned.

I'm sorry, last time I checked I *did* question the sanity of the cop claiming against my role PM. I have immediately identified you as a cop, if you recall, and said you're probably insane. PV's claim doesn't have anything against me, and he implied he is sane, so why doubt? if he lies, he'll be dead by tomorrow.

[shos]

A real town cop questions the claim.

I've seen a lot of this attitude (not just from you, from many people) this game. These presuppositions only work if you accept that one person's idea of what "proper behaviour" is is generalizable across the set of all mafia players.

It's clearly not.

Agreed. Shos' sown behavior is inconsistent. He questions my claim that matches his. Yet he refuses to enquire into a claim that suddenly appears when he bitches about a lack of a counter wagon.

me??? where the hell did I question your claim?

[shos]

A real town cop questions the claim.

I've seen a lot of this attitude (not just from you, from many people) this game. These presuppositions only work if you accept that one person's idea of what "proper behaviour" is is generalizable across the set of all mafia players.

It's clearly not.

Agreed. Shos' sown behavior is inconsistent. He questions my claim that matches his. Yet he refuses to enquire into a claim that suddenly appears when he bitches about a lack of a counter wagon.

guys, ISO peregrineV, please. start from this post and you don't even have to go all the way.

I am 100% trusting PV.

[shos]

Okay...

So...

The Commies are Town, The Fascists and Dictators are Scum, right?

Where do the Hippies fit in?

btw InB4Klingon is communist.

[shos]

Okay...

So...

The Commies are Town, The Fascists and Dictators are Scum, right?

Where do the Hippies fit in?

ill be posting more soon.

Okay, so, this thread blew up. I have other games to get to first, but ill catch up soon.

haha lol that was the easiest D2 ISO in my life

[shos]

Okay...

So...

The Commies are Town, The Fascists and Dictators are Scum, right?

Where do the Hippies fit in?

why would I be shocked.?
if you randomly pick a person it's like 50-50 that he's scum, lol. so why sensor? it's not like you get an answer of 'one dictator, 2 town, 4 fascists'. it is a yes/no. a genie like the RW mafia was broken; remember? we broke the setup eventually?

[shos]

Okay...

So...

The Commies are Town, The Fascists and Dictators are Scum, right?

Where do the Hippies fit in?

eddie is really town. ISO him.

[shos]

Okay...

So...

The Commies are Town, The Fascists and Dictators are Scum, right?

Where do the Hippies fit in?

pAGE 93

im wasted
going to sleep

[shos]

Titus iso pv

[shos]

If town's willing to lynch ProHawk, I can support that. UNVOTE: , VOTE: ProHawk.

Wtf is this

[shos]

lol, I disagree with 1, 3, 4 and 5.
if you actually red, you'll see that 5 is wrong; if you take into account that there are probably *VERY* few scummates in any scumteam, you'll understand why 4 cannot be true; 3 is just plain wrong. I'm just saying that tomorrow we'll be able to tell better what is true and what isn't. the only thing I know is true is that you are a cop, titus, and the only thing you know is true is that I am, too. for 1...I'm not going to repeat myself *again*.

[shos]

The answer is yes.

Here mastin, have a pagetop.

<<< This would have been helpful if MY INTERNET wasn't being an ASS. >>>

[shos]

no points in trying to talk sense into that one ^^^

[shos]

ika is not the one who needs to grow a brain

[shos]

Awesome, I need to understand your thought process. realy, I do.

if you shoot someone and they don't die. what are the options?
1. busdrive
2. roleblock
3. doc
4. jailkeep
5. BP

why on earth would you jump straight up to 100%BP SK?

also, don't shoot bulba. why would you want him to claim? not enough viggable people in this game?

[shos]

Or we could wait for peregrine to explain his claim better first. Why the rush?

[shos]

Titus, we probably ARE two town cops of different sanities. me sane and you insane fits everything. what doesn't make sense in that for you?

[shos]

Titus, we probably ARE two town cops of different sanities. me sane and you insane fits everything. what doesn't make sense in that for you?

Because you basically assume every claim is true without vetting... that's scum indicative.
You sheeped every almost major wagon yesterday... that's scum indicative
You haven't really pushed your own reads
You checked a player who was really obvtown until you claimed the guilty..
You don't bother vetting PV's guilty claim like you did mine.
You don't question the fact a counterwagon appears right after you ask for one.
You don't look like you're solving the game but you are just accusing people.

please.
1. how is that scum indicative? I have proof that you are a cop; we ahve a jailkeeper who claimed to target awesume AFTER awesume claimed to have a kill failed on me, which supports both of their claims; I have a guilty result on awesume, and the mod confirmed that SK would return that; could be all coincidences, but do you realy think that? The onyl one I ahven't doubted is PV, and we're still waiting for him to come and explain further.
2. I did, if you read my posts you'd know that.
3. was obvtown TO YOU. the entire hood agreed he was a good target, not only me.
4. I didn't do yours. I knew you were talking truth from the first post of the day, remember?
5. ISO PV. since the start of the day he was telling us to vote prohawk. only then, in timing which I presume is indeed coincidence, he actually said he had been told that by mastin.
6. solving the game? on D2? right. I'm not accusing anyone. I support us getting another night of information. how is that just accusing people and not trying to solve the game? YOU are the one who does that, in the fact you're trying to find your sanity in whatever price is needed.

[shos]

1. you said I was blindly accepting all claims. so I proved to you that all claims have good reasoning for my thinking, apart from PV, on which we are still waiting.
2. GO READ. all my votes have been explained thoroughly. it was pre-planned, see the coordination between me and muffin.
3. so what you're saying is 22 players thought that awesome was town( definitely not only 4, super vocal people ), and the hood was just lookking in a different thread. and the 'allegedly left miller crumbs' - are you kidding me? NOBODY saw that before he actually claimed. also, is there a reason you keep saying that we are six again and again? we are four. we even showed you the process which led to me picking that. we gave pools before the flip and after the flip, and awesome was on both. READ THE GAME.
4. I never doubted you. I immediately crumbed back to you.
5. yup, this is my thought.
6. oh so I'm not giving my full readlists out loud, that makes me scum. half the game didn't do that; if it's of any comfort, I did that in the hood.

[shos]

now correct me if I'm wrong awsume, but DGB is a GRAND vig target.

[shos]

What an amazing bday gift! Hi guys!

now correct me if I'm wrong awsume, but DGB is a GRAND vig target.

She's an even better cop target. Hint Hint

Definitely no. If you have 1 active player and 1 inactive, better to know the alignment of the active and kill the inactive than kill the active and know alignment of inactive. If any is scum, then it matters not, but if one ia town, it does.

So vig dgb and cop elsewhere. I kbow who I cop tonight.

[shos]

You don't have to claim

[shos]

Just tell us if you are guaranteed correct.

[shos]

PAAAAAAAAAAAgetop

[shos]

Mastina, Town Scumcatcher Extraordinaire

#I_LOL'D

This is good stuff here. and worry not for a kill, PV.

[shos]

VOTE: toon fighter

A good 90% sure that's the hammer, but I want to get a good night's rest before checking the numbers to be sure. (Because when I check the numbers, I'm prone to make an error at this time of night. )

Sooooooooo, flip and whatnot tomorrow.

VC 53

(final D1?)

:

Toon Fighter - 14 (Frightened inmate number3, guille2015, ArcAngel9, Bulbazak, Ankamius, farside22, Titus, Muffin, shos, Fluminator, DrippingGoofBall, eyestott, Awesome, Pirate Ika)

shos - 9 (theelkspeaks, Klingoncelt, ProHawk, Jackel98, Wisdom, Toon Fighter, Pine, BlizZard, Alchemist21)

Jackel98 - 2 (EddieFenix, alivechihiro)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting: 1 (Nobody Special)

With 27 alive, it was 14 to lynch.

Day One's deadline was Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST.
Toon Fighter for the lynch.

We could have known the exact town to scum ratio on this wagon for instance.

My point is he was acting suboptimally AND has a history of knowing and encouraging the optimal action as town.

Therefore, he is not likely town and the claim is therefore not trustworthy.

good! that is so helpful!
assume the answer was 10:4. what do you do now?
11:3?
9:5?
8:6?

[shos]

VOTE: toon fighter

A good 90% sure that's the hammer, but I want to get a good night's rest before checking the numbers to be sure. (Because when I check the numbers, I'm prone to make an error at this time of night. )

Sooooooooo, flip and whatnot tomorrow.

VC 53

(final D1?)

:

Toon Fighter - 14 (Frightened inmate number3, guille2015, ArcAngel9, Bulbazak, Ankamius, farside22, Titus, Muffin, shos, Fluminator, DrippingGoofBall, eyestott, Awesome, Pirate Ika)

shos - 9 (theelkspeaks, Klingoncelt, ProHawk, Jackel98, Wisdom, Toon Fighter, Pine, BlizZard, Alchemist21)

Jackel98 - 2 (EddieFenix, alivechihiro)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting: 1 (Nobody Special)

With 27 alive, it was 14 to lynch.

Day One's deadline was Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST.
Toon Fighter for the lynch.

We could have known the exact town to scum ratio on this wagon for instance.

My point is he was acting suboptimally AND has a history of knowing and encouraging the optimal action as town.

Therefore, he is not likely town and the claim is therefore not trustworthy.

I actually believe that claim. it fits mastina

[shos]

Jingle @ ETL, I suggest you read only D2. nothing interesting in D1 except for the fact I had a wagon going on me

[shos]

seriously, what the fuck. are you saying you're town?

[shos]

grand.

[shos]

So pro
what scum are you?
and who do you think are other scum?

[shos]

4 pages being, got scum result on blizzard.

[shos]

If shos is scum he is just claiming accurately and actually using his brain, which seems weird

Oh thanks lol

[shos]

Pagetop!

Wisdom is flailing ao hard it is entertaining.

Elk, PV, reaults?

Also im sure one kill got wasted on PV.

[shos]

Yea why rush
I want pv and elk results.

[shos]

Why would you think you were blocked?

And sure why not.

VOTE: blizzard

[shos]

InB4millerclaim lol

[shos]

Sure, no harm done in that.

VOTE: wisdom

And awesome please stab blizzard tonight.

[shos]

Also klingon is scum.

[shos]

Why would you go about shouting you were roleblocked, as a useless fruit vendor? And why would anyone at all want to block you?

I thinkyou are scum who had 1s fruit.

[shos]

I mean with all the cop shenanigans we have here, who givea a fuck about you? Why would anyone roleblock you when there are three cops around, and a vig? Or perhaps you think a townie did that?

Please.
Yoy were a scumread of mine all game. Theres just too many scum too lybch lol

[shos]

This is why I think you are lying.

[shos]

Lollercoprerz

Where am I not cobfidebt.?

[shos]

Tgat does not mean im not confident lol that just means im calculates and not rushing.

[shos]

I had nothing to think about or wait for on D1, and no reasonto rush D3.

[shos]

Tgat does not mean im not confident lol that just means im calculates and not rushing.

Yeahh... not buying this. So tell me, why would you be "calculated" on your guilty result as town again if you're convinced you are sane?

~.Zar.

You wouldn't. Am I convinced I am sane?

But either way, being calculated is not something you are on a result, it is on a game. and again, no reason to vote, no reason not to vote. so the easiest thing is to not do anything, which results in not to vote.

[shos]

Shos, you had less info day 1 than Day 3. You should have had more reason to hesitate Day 1 not Day 3. The only hesitation in your post should have been which confscum to vote.

Btw, you picked the wrong one if you were indeed mulling things over. We know I am sane or insane so you sh9uld be voting Wisdom because you would be certain he'd flip scum. Yet you will not vote there but hesitated on your guilty. It suggests you need a lynch outside the two of you to live longer. A cop's job is not to live to endgame but to catch the scums.


@Guille, shos has access to a cop pm. That being said, if shos was blocked, he would feel pressure to make up a result.

What was there to hesitate about on D1? what did I hesitate/not hesitate about on D1? I'm not following you. we did not have confscum on D1.

we know you are sane or insane, yes...so I should be voting wisdom, yes, I see the logic. and yet...I did not hesitate; I just didn't do anything. Then when prodded, I voted, but as I said when I voted wisdom, this doesn't matter much, as we need to wait for other results. no reason to vote either. I don't get why you guys are so rushing.

[shos]

I find shos's guilty on zarella fascinating.

why is it fascinating?

Zar's been tunneling my slot the entire game, since like, D1 when I had 3 posts; and he's one of the actives, so much info will be gained from this cop out. the hood thought it was legit, some other names were offered but no actual resistance to this target choice, so that was the choice.

the result, surprises you?

[shos]

what do you mean?

[shos]

Thats great!

[shos]

What I understopd is that he got that *exactly* one is truthful, which means I both get confirmed town and get two confscums in {titus, Zar}

[shos]

4503 is so aggressive and hostile that I have to

VOTE: FIN3.

That degree of insulting and hostility feels a lot more like scum trying to discourage people than like genuine town anger.

while I agree, I don't think it's scummy, and with the amount of info to handle in this game, voting FIN3 is a stupid way of avoiding the game.


WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SCUMS MASTIN I CANT LYNCH 5 A DAY

wisdom, titus, klingon, elk - all scums imo

[shos]

Hey mastin love, can we have an updated VC pretty please?

<<< Apologies. I've been dead-tired in life as of late. >>>

I'm getting sick of al the attention on me in the form of 'confscum shos' 'lynch shos' and 'dont forget shos'. nobody is diverting attention from ME, titus. the biggest wagon is probably WISDOM. so in fact people are helping him, not me.

[shos]

4503 is so aggressive and hostile that I have to

VOTE: FIN3.

That degree of insulting and hostility feels a lot more like scum trying to discourage people than like genuine town anger.

pagetop for mastin VC!

[shos]

eh, that quote wasn't supposed to be there

[shos]

also titus, you suck at scum

[shos]

impossibear is a good cop target for tonight

[shos]

...

wisdom, titus, klingon, elk - all scums imo

Scum sez OMGUS. Bad move.

UNVOTE: Titus

VOTE: Shos

Lol
*says that scum does omgus votes*
*performs an omgus vote*
...

[shos]

Why would scum fake a result? His results are most likely genuine because if we lynch them and they are proven fake, he's in trouble.

Also. Why not vote blizzard of you think his result is genuine?

because shos is confscum, blizzard isnt until i see shos flipping sane cop and even then we aren't 100% certain he wasn't lying for whatever reason.
We're not lynching outside shos and me today.

See, this is why you are scum.
You basically just said, we lynch shos, and when he flips town cop we STILL doubt his results. Not because of shenanigans - but because "lying for whatever reason".

Tldr:
Zar is wisdom's buddy.

[shos]

You are not even considering the possibility of there being some shenanigans or that even Titus might be scum.

Why would I consider that? shos has clearly been scum for the whole duration of the game, Titus has been her townself. Meaning her results completely agree with my reads, so it's pointless to doubt them.

Why would you consider shenanigans in a bastard game?

Um. Why would you consider a flipped town cop lying about his resilts?

[shos]

Oohhhh I get it now. I didn't think about scum cop.

So that is actually ibteresting. Who brought up the scum cop option in the firat place?/

[shos]

Yes indeed, but you will have to excuae me for not considering me-scum when I'm town lol

I wouldn't know if I flip with sanity, but I sirely willflip with alignment. I figured I'll flip "town cop", as per the role pm, like last games' flips.

[shos]

well he is to me. And he will be to everyone when I flip.

Jus' saying.
how am I confscum for you?
titusscum is not possible?
titus randomcop is not possible?
busdrive is not possible?
frame is not possible?

you either don't know what confirmed means, or are just bullshitting.

[shos]

well he is to me. And he will be to everyone when I flip.

another cop claim. This is beginning to look fake. it's like a last-resort wifom that fits with the results on him..

[shos]

Blizzard, why did you cop NS on N1?

and explain this please?

For those curious, this is where I heard the rumor.

Spoiler: That Time NS posted here

I like bananas

VOTE: Wisdom

Klingon I think you might know why I'm interested, right?

~.Zar

[shos]

Also regarding PTs and QTs, as I said, mastin may be using both. and it makes it even stronger when I called titus for the <> brackets while knowing that I have a PT.

No, it makes it even scummier. You have no evidence to believe mastin is using QT's, in fact you have more evidence o believe that she isn't, given that you are in a PT yourself. Suspecting Titus for using QT tags is just plain dumb.

btw lol
while isoing zar I found this
mastin used QTs in his last game, why wouldn't he this game

[shos]

For those curious, this is where I heard the rumor.

Spoiler: That Time NS posted here

I like bananas

VOTE: Wisdom

Klingon I think you might know why I'm interested, right?

~.Zar

When I first read the role-info-town claim on shos during my morning catch-up, I was trying to decide who to move my vote to. 3 pages later, however, given that mastin has confirmed that scum have fake-claims and the only reason he's "role-info-town" is that he claimed in a neighborhood, my vote stays parked right where it is.

This is scum and should not survive to see the light of day 2.

Also regarding PTs and QTs, as I said, mastin may be using both. and it makes it even stronger when I called titus for the <> brackets while knowing that I have a PT.

No, it makes it even scummier. You have no evidence to believe mastin is using QT's, in fact you have more evidence o believe that she isn't, given that you are in a PT yourself. Suspecting Titus for using QT tags is just plain dumb.

Really guys... I feel like you're all my children rebelling specifically because you can...

Just because you think someone's town doesn't mean you can't be wrong.

Listen to theelk Titus. He knows because he shares a PT with Shos. (...Or is it a QT? Hmmmm....) Just look at him working hard on getting that post scum flip town cred.

Really guys... I feel like you're all my children rebelling specifically because you can...

I, for once, agree with Titus

Hey guys

Join me on Pirate Ika. Totes scum

I hope you were trolling here, because I really can't believe you genuinely suspect Pirat Ika.

Do your own scumhunting.

Pwnd.

so interesting.
how comes a cop goes through an entire day without saying a single word on his last-targetted?
in the entire D2 you haven't mentioned NS a single time.

[shos]

well he is to me. And he will be to everyone when I flip.

another cop claim. This is beginning to look fake. it's like a last-resort wifom that fits with the results on him..

You know if he flips town cop it IS curtains for you, right?

yup. and here we go.

VOTE: BlizZard

well he is to me. And he will be to everyone when I flip.

another cop claim. This is beginning to look fake. it's like a last-resort wifom that fits with the results on him..

I don't think that that's a cop claim. I think that's Wisdom saying "Titus has an innocent on me, so I know she's sane, therefore her guilty on you must also be correct".

huh?

[shos]

what town motivation is there to specifically not crumb your results for a case where you die?

especially with so many nightkills?

[shos]

wisdom doesn't know what confirmed means.

@titus: it was a different claim, unprovoked, and AFTER sanities were discussed, which suggested he knew his result was "sane".

[shos]

what town motivation is there to specifically not crumb your results for a case where you die?

especially with so many nightkills?

Crumbing would have increased our chances of getting killed... We'd rather risk that and live another night to get one more result than wasting it to confirm someone who's barely playing the game and wasn't at any risk of getting lynched.

with two claimed cops and one claimed 'mastina scumhunter extraordinaire', you feared crumbing? are you fucking serious?

[shos]

@Shos, and why didn't PV's claim on ProHawk get this much scrutiny?

I don't care for PV's claim and I don't care for Blizzard.

@Blizzard, if arguendo the neighbors have a PT, shouldn't we assume all chats are PTs?

It did.

For an actual scum guilty on him, how long did he take to actually lynch?

Not long at all. Most didn't move.

I have an actual guilty on shos, combined with an actual innocent on Wisdom and yet it's near impossible to lynch shos.

so are you saying I have like a thousand scummates arguing in my favor? don't you understand that scumteams in this game are tiny, and can probably not actually help buddies? there is resustance to my lynch because of LOGIC AND SENSEMAKING.

[shos]

im starting to think that this is one giant scum page (minus PV)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6583136

[shos]

sigh

luurk starts right,....now.

[shos]

VOTE: wisdom

[shos]

ive given a lot of leeway in regards to it, but my patience with it grows thin.

Esp given that mollie has constantly tried to reach out to shos and shos (if town) is on some derp trip with it and that him not really even talking to her (as well as capcom game) that its driving her to scum read him

entertain me, what talk do you want to have with me?
You're practically the only townread I have from the active loads-of-shit-posters lol so please, just ask.

[shos]

UNVOTE:

i will talk it over with mollie at least. she moved the vote there.

can you go nag FIN3/shos to get their vote on wis at least as well?

lol this makes me laugh because I saw that nag in the hood before I saw this xD

[shos]

also guys, I think I can solve this pretty

anyone who claims cop (blizzrd, titus) ask mastin what you show personally if investigated.
I might be a secret miller

[shos]

(which would mean titus is a sane cop, wisdom is town, and we should lynch blizzard because I am sane)

[shos]

no, I say that if I am a secret miller, then this solves very much, and it's just one assumption, while the others pile up their assumptions in heaps.
I asked mastin what I would get if I investigated myself and she explicitly said that she cannot answer this.

[shos]

wisdom, try explaining why you think I'm scum without using the "knowledge" I am scum. you're using cyclic reasoning.

[shos]

Our communication in the hood has been very good since D1, he cooperates with me and I with him. thought process in and out of the hood is good. So I townread him strongly, and I think all this goes both ways.

[shos]

you're using cyclic reasoning.

I've been doing that since D1.

[shos]

trolololo
lololo
lololo
hahahahaha

[shos]

There are no cults this game, as no alignment changes.

I think the reason I am very town read by the hood is that I claimed unprovoked, and very quickly, on D1, before the entire game started to focus on me. I make logical arguments and consulted with them over night actions. The fact that I claimed in the hood so early (with reason, btw), and later when all the cop shitstorm started I was confirmed cop and confirmed titus as cop, and got correct result on Awesome before even knowing that SK investigates as scum which was confirmed later, and was even tracked to him, proves 100% that I'm a cop, and let's say 90% that I'm sane. nobody who is town has any reason at all to not believe me. the idea of 'scum cop' was only pulled out later, as an argument for why I AM scum despite all the facts.

Basically, there's a gigantic push on my lynch from a thousand players, whose only source of info is the cop result. And as I said, if I am a secret miller, then it all solves pretty much this easily, but the tunnel is too deep and long.

off I go

[shos]

I mean, no faction wants one of their own lynched, ever, but those guys seem to be fighting extra hard for Shos.

And as I explained, it's not just shos's partners that are defending him. It's scum from other factions too. They benefit from lynching me first, because it will make shos draw the vig or the next lynch away from them.

do you realize that I can make the same argument too?

[shos]

or, it gets a town cop flip, and loads of wifom.

[shos]

@bulba: this did not confirm titus as town. It confirmed her as COP. I *thought* it means automatically town, because well, normally cop is town, but after the idea of the existence of scum-cop came up, titus is just as well as me - just confirmed cop. not confirmed town, sadly.

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and re: undermining you, lol. I'm just transparent with my thoughts, and me being a secret miller is an assumption that solves everything from my POV. it means that we are all sane cops, and zar is scum, with just one assumption. Occam's razor says that the option with least assumptions is most likely correct, hence the motivation of considering that possibility.

[shos]

PAGETOP

[shos]

Yay
So I wasnt modkilled and turned to survivor then, for the pagetop €=

This game has been amazing, guys. Well played, everyone.

[shos]

And of coirse special thanks to mastina <3

[shos]

THIS SHOULD BE SCUMMIED

[shos]

I actually intended to prove Shos scum by checking you Wis. I was surprised when Shos flipped town.

"when shos is scum, he's scum, but when town, he's also scum"

[shos]

send me the spreadsheet toooooooooooooooo

[shos]

btw I think this is the third(?) longest game?

[shos]

Jus' sayin':

I totally wanted to be in taht game more.

but damn, I feel really good with myself:
wisdomscum
zarscum
klingonscum
toonscum
all the neighbours are town

I was fucking spot on

I totally enjoyed the fighting with you guys.

[shos]

/prein Unbalanced3

Rematch Wisdom. I will cream you as scum and I actually do have a body of work mirroring that.

REMATCH AXEPT

May I: /pre-in Unbalanced3?

Also, what's the biggest a large can be?

There was once (twice?) a 100-player game.

Reading 50+ player games that have finished is a hobby of mine - if you know of any, let me know!

Never played a game that massive but they're always fun to read!

Woah, 100+ players???
I havent modded a large yet, but played in the 70-p game Politics Mafia. Look for it!

thanks mastin

Thanks for all your super-hard work, mastin!

<3
I only wish I could do even MORE work for my games.

Alas, human-mod, not a god-mod.

Also, Unbalanced3 will be a mere 20 players, so I can only take 10 pre-ins.
I need to compile the official list. I

think

we're at less than 10 right now, but not absolutely sure.

/preinnnnnn

[shos]

lol. I thought that game had 70 for some reason.

I've never participated in anything bigger than that (35) so far.