Butcher, Baker, Pastry-Maker Mafia - Dogged

Titus · Post Post #485 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:50 am

Hi. I got filled with Rhizopus filling.

Also

VOTE: Shaft

#481 - SK hunting
#484 - Suggests one kill more than the other is a scum kill.

#484 in particular irks me because there is zero foundation for assuming either one was a scum kill. Yet he assumes the UT kill was scum.

Titus · Post Post #490 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:27 am

I have no idea what it does. The mods made it clear they would not tell me.

I am not a big fan of miller claims so I am leaving that as a null.

So you're both saying I have about one game day to crack the entire game. Fing great.

Titus · Post Post #502 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:50 am

In post 501, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 485, Titus wrote:Rhizopus

what the hell does this mean

The mod specifically said he would not tell me.

Titus · Post Post #509 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:12 am

VOTE: Gamma

Last time I went back on a sheep deal, I was scum.

Titus · Post Post #511 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:28 am

In AP's large theme He co modded with ika. I was a scumfuck looking to build bridges. I was fake tunneling on Bro and promised to sheep Sangres if he would vote Bro the next day.

I broke that deal. I see another broken deal, I suspect scum.

Titus · Post Post #513 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:23 pm

Gamma promised to sheep Reck yesterday. Look at the ISOs.

Titus · Post Post #517 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:16 pm

Well that makes sense. Sorry gamma.

UNVOTE: Gamma[/vote]

I didn't actually read the thread. It's sorta open knowledge I never read a thread when subbing in unless something catches my eye. I just saw something about a deal. Put both of you in an ISO and skimmed. I misinterpreted.

VOTE: Shaft

Titus · Post Post #530 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:07 am

In post 529, Nobody Special wrote:Why should we?

Titus · Post Post #531 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:09 am

In post 523, Nikanor wrote:do you really have no better reads to persue though

Ewww.... I really don't like you in this exchange. Toon Fighter seems not to know NS's style of play (which frankly drives me up a wall as well) but his play is absolutely consistent for town calling out active lurking. No one should be doing it.

Titus · Post Post #535 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:58 am

In post 532, xRECKONERx wrote:Something just popped into my head... if Nikanor is scum, then he'd probably know about the multiball and different faction types and moldy versus burnt flavoring, which would make a D1 miller claim a really easy thing to do in order to float by most of the game. Hmmmm.

It also hardly makes sense for their to be a miller for one type of scum and not for another type of scum IMO

In post 533, Nikanor wrote:you realize i have one of the highest post counts in the game atm right, if i wanted to float by on a miller claim i wouldn't have posted 40 times on d1.
if titus has indeed been poisoned then the moldy team has a weaker kill, meaning it makes sense to give the town roles that favour moldy faction.

Both of these posts make me cringe...

Who says there is no burnt miller in the lurkers?

The amount of posting is hardly alignment indicative.

Titus · Post Post #536 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:01 am

In post 17, Nikanor wrote:guys i think i'm gonna claim ok

In post 18, Nikanor wrote:i'm gonna do it, i'm really gonna do it!!

In post 32, Nikanor wrote:oh and i'm a miller too so don't inspect me ok

In post 39, Nikanor wrote:i'll just claim my full role i guess.

I am The Seven-Month-Old Cinnamon Bun, Cinn Zeo (pronounced like Xin Zhao). I am a moldy miller.

basically i worded my choice that way in the hopes that i'd roll third-party and get survivor but ALAS i am stuck with boring town again.

Why didn't you just claim in your first post?

Why did you claim miller and then moldy miller?

So many issues with this claim.

Titus · Post Post #538 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:06 am

I did actually read your ISO before asking you those questions.

You do not want to lie to me. That's a really bad maneuver.

Titus · Post Post #542 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:13 am

In post 541, Nikanor wrote:re: toon fighter - if you actually think he's an investigative with an inno then you're an idiot. he's probably a scum tracker or something.
he comes into d2 with nothing but a pressure vote and a single town read. no word into what happened to his read on me. no word into why he's suddenly crumbing a 100% innocent on a guy he was scumreading yesterday. it's just nothing. he's scum going for an easy lynch and crumbing an inno so that he looks town.

This needs to die. Yesterday.

Titus · Post Post #543 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:13 am

Oh and since I'm likely dead tonight, we're going to focus on you if you don't mind.

Titus · Post Post #545 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:19 am

Rhizopus stolonifer (black bread mold) is a widely distributed thread-like Mucoralean mold. Commonly found on bread surfaces, it takes food and nutrients from the bread and causes damage to the surface where it lives.

That's from wikipedia searching. Am I 100% that's poisoner, no but that's the best consensus.

Titus · Post Post #548 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:34 am

In post 547, Nikanor wrote:
In post 542, Titus wrote:
In post 541, Nikanor wrote:re: toon fighter - if you actually think he's an investigative with an inno then you're an idiot. he's probably a scum tracker or something.
he comes into d2 with nothing but a pressure vote and a single town read. no word into what happened to his read on me. no word into why he's suddenly crumbing a 100% innocent on a guy he was scumreading yesterday. it's just nothing. he's scum going for an easy lynch and crumbing an inno so that he looks town.

This needs to die. Yesterday.

i agree we probably should have lynched toon fighter yesterday. alas poor shadow!

I meant you not toon fighter.

Titus · Post Post #550 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:48 am

[quote="In post 549, Nikanor"][/quote]

Crystal clear. I meant you should have died.

I want to hear others thoughts on you now.

Titus · Post Post #553 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:59 am

In post 552, Nikanor wrote:
In post 550, Titus wrote:
In post 549, Nikanor wrote:

Crystal clear. I meant you should have died.

I want to hear others thoughts on you now.

yeah but what kind of crystal, bc if it's quartz or some shit then i don't think it's gonna be that clear yknow

I'll suppose the idiom crystal clear hasn't gotten through to Canada. I mean I am sure I want you dead.

Titus · Post Post #555 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:04 am

My patience while I have the flu is wearing thin.

Titus · Post Post #557 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:11 am

In post 556, dramonic wrote:Then stop posting nonsense :3

Why is what I am saying nonsense?

Titus · Post Post #560 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:15 am

It's bad for me to want to focus the conversation where I'll be most useful since I'm likely poisoned. Go on.. explain how that's bad.

Titus · Post Post #563 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:17 am

In post 561, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Sprinkled Delight

Seems like if Nikanor was scum he could have just said Miller. Distinguishing it out (giving the town more info) as to the miller type seems more town that way.

Reck's explanation makes a lot more sense.

Titus · Post Post #566 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:27 am

In post 564, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 563, Titus wrote:
In post 561, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Sprinkled Delight

Seems like if Nikanor was scum he could have just said Miller. Distinguishing it out (giving the town more info) as to the miller type seems more town that way.

Reck's explanation makes a lot more sense.

It could. But given the size of 44 and the lack of other scumhunting doen by Reck day1, it seems like you would remember your fakeclaimed suspect.

And why claim Miller when that shuts down all sorts of claims that scum could make instead? Nobody gives Millers free town passes anymore.

Millers help weaker members survive a day or two generally.

I don't see how the size of 44 is relevant at all.

Titus · Post Post #585 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:21 pm

Just realized my vote was not on Nikanor.

VOTE: Nikanor

Titus · Post Post #588 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:47 pm

In post 587, Nikanor wrote:
In post 582, Sprinkled Delight wrote:
In post 541, Nikanor wrote:re: toon fighter - if you actually think he's an investigative with an inno then you're an idiot. he's probably a scum tracker or something.
----
he comes into d2 with nothing but a pressure vote and a single town read. no word into what happened to his read on me. no word into why he's suddenly crumbing a 100% innocent on a guy he was scumreading yesterday. it's just nothing. he's scum going for an easy lynch and crumbing an inno so that he looks town.

I don't understand this post. Can you break it down for me? I added a line to show the break that's causing the issue for me because the logic in it doesn't flow very well and I don't know what you're referring to.

specifically titus scolding ns for not picking up on toon fighter's innocrumb, and ns facepalming as a result. feels like people are giving toon fighter a pass because he's crumbing an investigative.

Ewwwww...

I know I am not subtle but at least I try to hide cop reads.

Titus · Post Post #593 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:00 pm

In post 590, Nikanor wrote:titus if you don't think that toon fighter is a pr then why the hell are you giving him a pass, his opening today was mega groosss

It wasn't. You wanting to discuss toon fighter's or status is really scummy.

There were many reasons to tell NS not to ask. 1) obvtow ness 2) pr protection 3) frustration with ns's usual play style.

You want to discuss toon fighter's role. That only helps scum.

Titus · Post Post #595 (isolation #26) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:07 pm

Wrong on the latter. If you peg him here, based on this alone, he can walk it back. You force him into that position before discussing the role.

Titus · Post Post #597 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:13 pm

In post 596, Nikanor wrote:pretty sure he can't walk back from "the guy i had a scum read on before is now 100% town"
and if he tries then he's backpedaling scum which will make it even easier to lynch him so win-win.

He can. I would put out the reasons but that would be coaching if your bullshit stack actually had a needle in it.

Titus · Post Post #614 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:03 am

Gamma, the NK situation will sort itself out. Maybe one shot poisoner is an ability of the scum team and there is no SK vig, or one scum team w poisoner ability plus SK vig. That discussion is unhelpful.

You know what is helpful right now, vote and behavioral analysis.

Titus · Post Post #616 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:13 am

VOTE: Gamma

Have some incentive to talk from the gut first.

Titus · Post Post #624 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:32 am

Ugh enough. Everyone has gotten their two cents in on setup spec. We need wagons and analysis.

Oh and gamma, you have never played with scum me. I can tell because you said scum do not push wrong info about the setup. I love to do that as scum.

Titus · Post Post #626 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:41 am

In post 625, Gammagooey wrote:i guess i haven't then

i always try to keep it really close to what i think is true as scum unless I'm pushing for *specific X role is/should be/shouldn't be/isn't in the setup therefore we should lynch this person*

There are advantages to fucking with setup knowledge as scum. If you withhold information, so players think roles are in the game that are not, it works much better.

Given the number of likely kills, I don't see how a miller works here. The only reason my vote isn't permanently on Nikanor is that there's the possibility that scum are pulling a fast one and Rhizo is some other negative effect.

Titus · Post Post #667 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:50 am

In post 653, tn5421 wrote:Im pretty sure you shouldn't just assume someone is being racist like that.

Shaft the tv character was part of a very racist period.

I am not liking Shaft's rp here.

Titus · Post Post #681 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:20 pm

Espy, be my in thread mason? Our guts are in sync right now on shaft and gamma. Talk to me about Nikanor please. Town or Scum?

Titus · Post Post #683 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:26 pm

I rather like Reck's thoughts on Nik. Why is he giving you the hibbiegibbies?

Vote: Shaft
Proxy my vote to Espy if legal

Titus · Post Post #714 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:49 am

I like the gambits here.

Titus · Post Post #718 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:40 am

In post 486, Shaft wrote:Yeah?

First kill is usually mafia. Second kill flavor is "eaten". I'm assuming as a replacement you didn't know people picked a pastry/baked good to be their character. Do you think there's a pastry/baked good vig eating other pastries/baked goods? Because I think it's an SK slot (human I guess) that has to eat everyone to win.

Nik claimed moldy miller and I believe him. UT flipped sourdough mold cop. Mafia are probably pastries/baked goods but nasty. Thoughts on that?

This doesn't refute anything.

Hell the second kill could be a gingerbread cookie.

Titus · Post Post #719 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:41 am

I do admit I do not like pressure when I have the flu but your stance on me is fucking twisted.

Titus · Post Post #727 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:56 pm

Those posts are tangentially related at best shaft.

Titus · Post Post #728 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:57 pm

If people thought you refuted my case, there would not be five votes on you.

Titus · Post Post #735 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:20 am

In post 729, dramonic wrote:Nikanor does not think im scum.
Im confused about his vote.

In post 730, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 726, Nikanor wrote:w/e this tf wagon is going nowhere fast and if we don't lynch scum today we're fucked.

Vote:dramonic.

What the fresh hell is this

You really should reconsider giving millers a D1 pass?

Titus · Post Post #752 (isolation #41) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:32 am

Out until tomorrow.

Titus · Post Post #803 (isolation #42) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:46 am

In post 800, Katsuki wrote:Can we just form a RL clique and lynch anyone that's not part of it? Because I haven't been reading nor keeping up with this game and that would significantly simplify things for me and hopefully end the game.

I could do that for today. (FTR that is you me Gamma and Reck. I met the later two at the commune).

Titus · Post Post #836 (isolation #43) » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:09 pm

VOTE: Reck

That does seem pretty damning.

Was there any other use of the Rhizo filling?

Titus · Post Post #907 (isolation #44) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:52 am

Ugh. Lots of emotion from all sides. I am getting a drink or two to read this properly.

@Espeonage, Kalimar is not that type of investigation. I very well can be in late game. Living that long for me is the hard part. I am really partail because I want that cop check to be true.

The biggest problem with that is I had a huge shot of being dead at daybreak. Unless Reck observed I was subbing in and presumed I am so terrible at the early game as town but good at it as scum, that check makes little sense.

Of course that presumes Reck is from the school of thought where you target or look directly for scum with the cop.

If he's from the school of thought you check a null read to shake the game, that makes a bit more sense.

Meanwhile, we do know Rhizopus likely isn't a good thing. We know Reck targeted me. Occam's Razor says he injected me with whatever that was.

Titus · Post Post #913 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:00 am

Who said anything about framing me Reck? None of us know what Rhizo does?

Also, what the hell did you mean about a slot I was replacing into?

Titus · Post Post #918 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:07 am

That post has modifiers you are misunderstanding. The track is damning.

Any other use meant, who else got hit with it?

Also, you haven't seen my late game lately then. Hell we haven't played much together at all. So why do you presume I am useless?

Titus · Post Post #921 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:10 am

I was better at the mafia meet. Players understood me there.

Seriously, your plan to have me unvote you is to tell me how horrible I am? Or are you playing to the crowd?

Titus · Post Post #923 (isolation #48) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:12 am

*eyeroll at Reck* That AtE.

That obviously is not quoting your PM.

I am thinking you are so terrible, you might be town.

Titus · Post Post #924 (isolation #49) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:13 am

I don't see a hammer...

Titus · Post Post #927 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:16 am

Wow...I am insulted even by people who think I am town constantly. And you people wonder why I am so defensive.

Titus · Post Post #928 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:27 am

I really don't care. I am glad if you are flipped. Saves me from having to deal with your shit.

Titus · Post Post #930 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:36 am

I love that vid.

You and Gamma can be the gay dudes dancing on either side of me.

Titus · Post Post #932 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:39 am

You really are on no fun insult Titus mode aren't you?

Titus · Post Post #934 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:45 am

Dude. Leave the game in the game. Sure I have messed up. We all have. That's mafia. When I find the hard and fast set of rules that match current meta, I will be great. Right now, I see it in late game. Ask Gamma about Harry Potter.

You sit here thinking I suck but you don't know me.

Were you planning to buddy the fuck out of me bc you thought I was that bad? That I would never vote you? And now you are pissed I did?

Titus · Post Post #945 (isolation #55) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:10 pm

@Gamma, the mod said nothing to me about my filling and made it clear that they won't say any further. You know nothing about what that does.

Also, I really like Espy as town as evidenced by day 1. Nothing really happened Day 2 to change that. I'll be going through Reck's posts shortly to look for buddies.

Titus · Post Post #951 (isolation #56) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:07 pm

In post 827, Andrius wrote:
In post 826, tn5421 wrote:So Moldy roles CAN be aligned with the town?

Yes.
The 'mafia' faction(s) is(are)
exclusively
comprised of modified baked goods and pastries which are either Moldy or Burnt.

Does that make sense?

Espy, Burnt is also a mafia faction. The mod made that pretty clear.

Titus · Post Post #952 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:09 pm

In post 948, Gammagooey wrote:esp i kind of wish you hadn't posted that yet since im kind of expecting you to jump to the worst possible interpretation of this now but whatever

@Titus-I do like some parts of esp's comments on reck (changing his mind on reck quickly: sounds like a townish mindset to post that) but his tone this game just makes me kind of uneasy.
Did look back at d1 and some of his responses were slightly good but I don't see anything I would say is particularly unlikely to be coming from scum.

Noted and I'll keep that in mind.

I didn't feel good about you at all early but given that Reck was scum, I felt good about him (until he was tracked to me), and he flipped scum, I am revisiting on you. Is there anything you felt particularly important on Reck's posts?

Titus · Post Post #956 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:29 pm

In post 954, Espeonage wrote:Gamma and Kali are my top picks for scum right now.

Gamma, really? Why? His Reck reactions don't look like scum scum.

Titus · Post Post #958 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:53 pm

Titus · Post Post #962 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:34 pm

Espy, I'm starting to have a problem with your Reck read. You had a scumread on Reck and even said he was scum, but you always had a vote on town. That's alarming.

Titus · Post Post #963 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:35 pm

So yeah, I want to know why Gamma is scum.

Your read on Reck reminds me of Gamma in Harry Potter. He took credit for bussing someone saying it was his argument. Yet, when the votes came down, Gamma was nowhere to be found.

Titus · Post Post #968 (isolation #62) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:42 pm

Dram, how do you get "there's a few missing kills" and there's no burnt mafia?

Served Flambe certainly looks consistent with burnt.

Titus · Post Post #977 (isolation #63) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:34 pm

In post 976, Nobody Special wrote:I was topped by Reck Night Two.

At the time, I didn't know it was Reck. I just got blindly topped while minding my own business. In my sleep.

Topped with what? What made you think it was Reck now?

Titus · Post Post #980 (isolation #64) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:37 pm

TF what was your track result?

Anyone hear any filling results?

Titus · Post Post #987 (isolation #65) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:45 am

VLA cuz birthday

Titus · Post Post #996 (isolation #66) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:42 am

I am starting to suspect Reck had the Rhizo filling as no one claimed it n3.

Titus · Post Post #998 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:01 am

In post 988, Toon Fighter wrote:
In post 987, Titus wrote:
VLA cuz birthday

yours?

Yes. My sister's too.

@Dram, Can you stop with the condescension?

Titus · Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:30 am

Dram, I don't like the too easy solution. It feels too easy. A lot of people suggested Rhizo meant poison, but now we don't know what it was.

I am reluctant to jump onto the same path of assuming that was Reck. It's possible though.

Titus · Post Post #1008 (isolation #69) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:04 am

VLA through Monday

Titus · Post Post #1012 (isolation #70) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:42 pm

Why? Gamma's been the player most right so far without cop aids..why lynch him?

Titus · Post Post #1023 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:05 am

Makes sense.

What do you think that is TF?

I don't see why people are voting gamma. I would rather sheep him and vote NS but the lack of posting makes it impossible to get a heartbeat on this.

Titus · Post Post #1025 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:08 am

What do you think Reck did and who to?

Titus · Post Post #1029 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:39 am

@TF are you claiming roleblocked? Can you put your results together?

Yeah not voting Gamma.

VOTE: NS

Let's see what shakes.

Titus · Post Post #1031 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:01 am

Ok, so you meant Reck was blocked? How? Isn't the roleblocker dead? If Reck was blocked, we are in multiball.

Titus · Post Post #1035 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:44 am

@Espy, so you think TF greated a guilty on his bud for towncred?

Titus · Post Post #1043 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:01 am

In post 1042, dramonic wrote:This TF wagon is goddamn retarded.

I feel like everyone's nuts this game...

Titus · Post Post #1044 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:02 am

Did I get topped with nuts? So that I would seenothing as making sense.

Titus · Post Post #1049 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:04 am

You're being wierd NS.....

Titus · Post Post #1051 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:22 am

You're being angry...

Titus · Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:48 am

I never recall you being bitchy NS...

Espy, wtf?

Titus · Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:29 pm

Ok someone tell me whether this is a joke or not.

Titus · Post Post #1100 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:10 pm

What the fuck, you said you are not town again ater being revealed as town?

Titus · Post Post #1105 (isolation #83) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:18 pm

In post 1102, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 1100, Titus wrote:What the fuck, you said you are not town again ater being revealed as town?

ssssh

sssshhhhh

it'll be okay

How strong is your grip on this?

Espy is just pissing me off with his nonsense.

Titus · Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:38 am

Gamma/Espy, ply me with booze at some point. I think I need to be drunk to get this shit.

Titus · Post Post #1126 (isolation #85) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:14 am

In post 1116, Espeonage wrote:Basically the real question I have is why Sera did what he did in reaction to my posts. He goes wtf and then votes.

Town Sera knows it isn't true, he goes, why are you doing this even if you are scum you know it's not true and it puts a target on your head too. That makes no sense.

Scum Sera goes, I know he's lying, but no one else does except my buddies, I need to make sure he gets lynched, distance myself from what he said and then I'm fine after he's gone.

You tell me what mentality Sera had.

Pretty much everyone knows you were lying when you quoted the scum qt allegedly because you were not modkilled. If I was a mod of this game, I would have modkilled you on prinicipal.

Saying untrue shit generally does not put a target on your back regardless of your belief in it. Been there done that.

Titus · Post Post #1127 (isolation #86) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:16 am

In post 1121, Gammagooey wrote:Passed out really early last night, words will have to wait until tonight instead.

Kali's thoughts on Pere are very similar to mine - I was pere's scumbuddy in Harry Potter.

VOTE: Seraphim

And you just reminded me why I am so paranoid of you. Harry Potter you bussed but managed to stay off Pere's wagon.

Titus · Post Post #1134 (isolation #87) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:30 am

In post 1131, Gammagooey wrote:@Titus- also I was the 3rd vote on pere and pushed him pretty hard at least the day he got lynched in harry potter- I might have avoided him in earlier days (don't remember and not bothering to check now) but I was pretty clearly hardbussing the day he got lynched if you actually look back at my iso for that day.

Actually, you were on the wagon when he did not get lynched. Off when ge did.

Yet you claimed credit. That's how I knew you had to be in the scum pool.

It was basically down to you and the agency captured townie. I wanted to lynch the other guy but town convinced me on you.

Titus · Post Post #1137 (isolation #88) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:59 am

Ok my memory was slightly off. I didn't look back at it. Yet your vote was off PV's wagon at a critical juncture that made your theory seem fake.

Titus · Post Post #1138 (isolation #89) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:00 am

In post 1133, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1120, Kalimar wrote:tn scumread would be an ok start

He's lacking the town-wow factor.

Tn's never had town wow factor for me.

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:32 am

In post 1139, tn5421 wrote:thats not very nice titus

That's just saying you do not obvtown. Hell the only obvtown atm to me makes zero sense.

Titus · Post Post #1154 (isolation #91) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:25 pm

In post 1148, tn5421 wrote:V_V

I suppose it's true. I think I've obvtowned exactly once in my history of playing forum mafia. Interestingly enough it was the time we hydra'd in that diffusion of power game.

That game is probably the closest I have come to obvtowning short of setup spec.

Titus · Post Post #1155 (isolation #92) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 1149, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1147, Titus wrote:
In post 1139, tn5421 wrote:thats not very nice titus

That's just saying you do not obvtown. Hell the only obvtown atm to me makes zero sense.

hi

Hi.

Titus · Post Post #1164 (isolation #93) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:02 pm

In post 1159, dramonic wrote:my main issue with the sera wagon is that it has espy and tn on it.

Dram just obvtowned. I don't see scum pissing off the IC while most everyone is lost.

Titus · Post Post #1165 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:13 pm

VOTE: PereV

Titus · Post Post #1169 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:36 am

In post 1168, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1164, Titus wrote:
In post 1159, dramonic wrote:my main issue with the sera wagon is that it has espy and tn on it.

Dram just obvtowned. I don't see scum pissing off the IC while most everyone is lost.

You have obviously never played with Dram and I in the same game together. He did nothing that moved him anywhere from null.

Weren't you in House Party?

Titus · Post Post #1185 (isolation #96) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:10 am

I think I might be in prod range.

I may needto reach into my bag of tricks to give this game a kick start.

Titus · Post Post #1189 (isolation #97) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:09 am

In post 1188, Nobody Special wrote:(I hope I didn't steal Titus' kick-start thunder....)

Fine by me. I did not have an idea yet. It probably would have involved copius drinking and theories that only made sense to me.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:41 am

In post 1199, Gammagooey wrote:i may change that kali vote later

but deer fucking lorde do people need to show up and post first

Even for moon logic, their must be a moon.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:43 am

VOTE: Seraphin

Lols. I see it.

Gamma, double check his story.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:20 pm

VOTE: unvote

I used the wrong SD. My bad.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:46 pm

Why so persistent Dram? If he's lying, scum will shoot him and that's one less problem to deal with.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:00 pm

Irrelevant. Scum/SK will likely shoot it regardless. So why bother with wasting mental energy determining whether it is true?

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:05 pm

@Dram, Then his bullets are likely used up given the missing kills if he is SK. Second, given bp is likely gone, sk should need to shoot scum.

Have you seen a four shot bp sk?

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:07 pm

A four shot bp sk is most likely not here so Sera should die tonight.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:09 pm

In post 1221, Espeonage wrote:Titus is being a dumb again.

Mr. I'm not town innocent child is calling me dumb...how rich.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:21 am

NS requested cross replacement from all games I think.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:15 pm

Leaning towards voting Sera, not because I think its necessarily wise but because I don't have anything better and that's a townie wagon.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:41 pm

TN is the person I feel weakest about on your wagon. Why should I vote him?

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:42 pm

In post 1258, Seraphim wrote:Looks like opportunistic active lurking to me. and a heady dose of gut which I can't communicate. Doesn't seem to care about the outcome of the game at all, which I tend to equate with scum.

welcome to the game, hi im Yakko.

I'm ignoring gut because I can't become a telepath.

Why does tn feel like lurking? Why do you feel he doesn't care about the outcome of the game?

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:04 am

@PV, I haven't done a VCA. I will try but there was no counter to Reck so..

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:02 am

In post 1273, Espeonage wrote:Because I'm awesome and didn't let one happen.

That's good for most but the magic of my VCA prefers conflict.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:25 am

In post 1275, tn5421 wrote:
In post 1261, Titus wrote:
In post 1258, Seraphim wrote:Looks like opportunistic active lurking to me. and a heady dose of gut which I can't communicate. Doesn't seem to care about the outcome of the game at all, which I tend to equate with scum.

welcome to the game, hi im Yakko.

I'm ignoring gut because I can't become a telepath.

Why does tn feel like lurking? Why do you feel he doesn't care about the outcome of the game?

Because it's hard to make myself care. So I simply don't.

Then why shouldn't we lynch you?

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:29 am

There's a difference between getting lazy and not caring though.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:15 pm

To me there's a world of difference. Town who want to win try to do shit or promise shit later and later is too late. Apathetic scum just do not bother

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:44 pm

I feel like I am buddied from all sides. I thought getting a drink would help...now it just makes me want to cry...

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:51 am

In post 1290, Kalimar wrote:
In post 1288, Titus wrote:I feel like I am buddied from all sides. I thought getting a drink would help...now it just makes me want to cry...

i don't see who is buddying you.

Kalimar, I don't see logical appeals from anyone. Sera is AtE based on claim. Tn is AtE based on I don't even know what.

At this point I will probably just hammer whoever gets into range as I suck when logic is not involved.

That being said, I love these wagons for VCA (assuming town v scum).

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:53 am

In post 1284, Espeonage wrote:tbh the reluctance for sera and the lazy tn counterwagon leads me to believe that if tn were to flip scum it would point even more heavily to sera scum

Right or wrong you are in a tunnel. I disagree with this though.

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:34 am

Intent to hammer.

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:35 am

Why the change of heart PV?

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:06 am

I get a really bad feeling about this. The tn counterwagon just up and changed to Sera. TF hammers while I have a question pending for PV.

Titus · Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:03 pm

In post 1309, hi im Yakko wrote:VOTE: toonfighter
instinct based on wagon. Hammered to look town. Maybe I should have voted espe hmmmmm

Huh? Maybe you should have voted conftown?

TFnot dying and that hammer are the only suspicious thing I find about him, but even then I was going to hammer anyway.

I am more interested in why PV jumped.

VOTE: PV

Titus · Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:28 pm

Ok I must be drunker than I thought...

We got people wanting the tracker and the obvtiwn lynched.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:44 am

VOTE: Gamma

If you were not the IC, I would think you are scum or crazy talking. Yet I have been inyour position myself Espy so I am willing to lend you my vote to see what happens. If nothing scummy happens though, I am unvoting.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:58 am

@TF, the kills are possible like that.

If you think Gamma's a good lynch, please tell me why and get on.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:03 am

Ok guys there's something else I noticed. Filling happens in addition to death I think. Seraphim was filled with caramel.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:36 am

And your response has nothing to do with Espy's point.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:11 am

Yes. You hating Reck's play has nothing to do with whether he was trying to clear you.

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:53 am

Your point? Why is he thinking your explosion was scum scum?

Titus · Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:50 pm

In post 1331, Gammagooey wrote:I understand why you're doing what you're doing but it's garbage. You're playing to a (false) worst case scenario and you've convinced yourself that you're right and that this is the only way to save the game from everyone else's incompetence and laziness.

And yes this game is difficult and half the players in it are being lazy pieces of garbage. But this isn't going to win the game. Look back at my play and reevaluate whether I'm playing the way I am and have been as town or scum. I'm not asking for more than you're wishing everyone else would put in the effort to do.

Well if you have it solved let me know. Insulting everyone doesn't make me think you are town.

@Kalimar, you want3d Gamma dead yesterday yet you won't vote him today???

Titus · Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:16 am

Yeah I don't want massclaim. I highly doubt a one shot vig shot UT which means we have a hidden protective role. Thus, no massclaim.

Titus · Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:57 am

In post 1339, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1310, Titus wrote:
In post 1309, hi im Yakko wrote:VOTE: toonfighter
instinct based on wagon. Hammered to look town. Maybe I should have voted espe hmmmmm

Huh? Maybe you should have voted conftown?

TFnot dying and that hammer are the only suspicious thing I find about him, but even then I was going to hammer anyway.

I am more interested in why PV jumped.

VOTE: PV

Why I jumped from one scum candidate to the other scum candidate?
Because, either or.

Also because there was no reposonse or reply the the inherent questions of 1269.

That is it precisely.

The wagon takes off after my intent to vote it. The vote pile on looks like buzzer beater bussing.

Titus · Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:06 pm

In post 1021, Toon Fighter wrote:meh, even with a non-positive result, I still believe gamma might be scum. D3 interactions with Reck come to mind. dram's interesting theories also deserve a read. Will comment more on them later. for now, a vote

vote: Gammagooey

In post 1030, Toon Fighter wrote:
In post 1029, Titus wrote:@TF are you claiming roleblocked? Can you put your results together?

Yeah not voting Gamma.

VOTE: NS

Let's see what shakes.

No nothing like that. N2 I investigated Espeonage and he went nowhere. I'm just saying that if Reck had some sort of a roleblocking filling he might have targeted me. But I received no filling whatsoever

In post 483, Toon Fighter wrote:I don't think Reck is scum

vote: NS
because he got lucky D1 but won't get lucky this time

In post 528, Toon Fighter wrote:Reck is NOT scum. trust me on this one

In post 710, Toon Fighter wrote:Reck knows what I saw. That is why he says I am town

In post 832, Toon Fighter wrote:K guys, I think I am gonna claim now okay?

So, I am a Carrot Cake. I am a Town Tracker. I tracked Reck to Titus N1, that is why I thought Reck was scum (assuming Titus would drop dead from poisoning, which obviously didn't happen). I got no relevant results N2, but can share them if the town feels it is best. I honestly have no clue who is scum right now, and will reread the game and vote tomorrow.

In post 884, Toon Fighter wrote:Framed? hadn't considered that possibility. Yeah, it makes sense.

Reck, full claim with N2 result or I will vote

In post 895, Toon Fighter wrote:FYI, and before the next nightfall, I tracked espeonage and he visited no one N2. Just in case I die tonight O.o

Toon can you tell me your tracks again?

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:38 am

In post 1352, Toon Fighter wrote:N1 - Tracked Reck, he targeted Titus
N2 - Tracked Espeonage, he targeted no one
N3 - Tracked Gamma, he targeted no one
N4 - Tracked tn5421, he targeted no one

This looks like you could have been blocked as well. If PV got handed a doctor thing, which I doubt, then handing a vig to the IC makes sense. YetEspy visited no one.

No one else is claiming vig.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:38 am

In post 1353, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1352, Toon Fighter wrote:N1 - Tracked Reck, he targeted Titus
N2 - Tracked Espeonage, he targeted no one
N3 - Tracked Gamma, he targeted no one
N4 - Tracked tn5421, he targeted no one

If Reck was mafia filling giver, and gave filling to Sera, his scumbuddy, then this really makes me want to vote Titus.

If Dram was here, he would be shutting you down so hard.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:40 am

@PV, What do you think of Kalimar's reluctance of voting Gamma today after wanting him yesterday?

What do you think of Espy's push?

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:40 am

In post 1358, Kalimar wrote:
In post 1347, Gammagooey wrote:meh

you should do that soon PV

@Kali- who do you think is scum atm?

Don't know. I think Yakko quite possibly townslipped - or at least not-groupscum-slipped - and I think PV is still decently likely to be town despite the twitch-worthy vote-swap end of last day.

Still think tn is an okay lynch. I think either you or Titus is likely to be mafia just because I don't have town-reads on either of you and I think I should have seen at least some good signals to that end by now given you're both relatively active. I also mainly think an active player being scum would, along with the apathy, explain why town really hasn't congealed and found each other.

You said you wouldn't kill dramonic, and I kind of want to believe that, but who do you think would have killed dramonic? I find that kill odd. Perhaps more important is why.

Dram makes sense from a perspective of largely townread scum. Dram wasn't really scumread that much but he was townread pretty hard. It also makes sense if someone wanted me pushed.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:43 am

In post 1360, Kalimar wrote:
In post 1355, Titus wrote:
In post 1352, Toon Fighter wrote:N1 - Tracked Reck, he targeted Titus
N2 - Tracked Espeonage, he targeted no one
N3 - Tracked Gamma, he targeted no one
N4 - Tracked tn5421, he targeted no one

This looks like you could have been blocked as well. If PV got handed a doctor thing, which I doubt, then handing a vig to the IC makes sense. YetEspy visited no one.

No one else is claiming vig.

I have no idea what most of this means, but why do you doubt PV got handed a 1-shot doc power? Just on the other page you were espousing the idea of a hidden protective role being a good reason not to massclaim.

My Gamma vote yesterday wasn't a hard-push, and I'm still far from sure he's scum but I've been wary since day 1 in 193 two days into the game where he said he'd be happy to lynch me as I hadn't done anything town yet. My start in HP was pretty slow, and by that point in that game I actually hadn't done anything at all, so I don't really understand where this expectation that I should have done anything particularly town so early came from. Him voting me there again brought forth a resurgence of that wariness and an accompanying vote.

My lack of intro vote means very little in most contexts, but feel free to read into my lack of vote here if you like. Pondering.

If PV got a one shot doc, where'd the others go.

Regardless, massclaim is not a good way to go even if PV is telling the truth because lols inventor.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:47 am

PV's claim sounds a little tailor made to pursue s one shot vig rather than multiball.

If there's an inventor giving people shit, we either a) hope for thrm to clsim and back up pv while outing the vig who shot UT as scum or we hide the inventor to get more protections off.

Scum have to have an interference role, otherwise follow the cop ensues.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:48 am

PV could be lying town trying to force his agenda (see HU2) but his claim makes no sense.

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:48 am

Ok..I will cool it for now.

Still think there must be an rb though we haven't seen. Town has a lot of power compared to scum

Titus · Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:38 pm

Gamma votes biggest cw on him while saying nothing about Yakko.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:47 am

@Espy, If you want Gamma lynched, I am going to need help now. When I am town I cannot persuade anyone of anything. I feel as if I don't exist and nit much communication is happening. No one is giving reasons fot town Gamma or Yakko scum for the most part.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:15 am

Ok great. I will go grab Dram's posts that highlight what likely happened. We all put poison down at first but when I didn't die, that had to be tossed. UT did die however and he was cop. One of the two scums is a GF. Serph never claimed his filling. I did. Caramel makes the most sense as "make someone scum appear town" to help him avoid TF's track. Rhizo is a mold thingy which we assumed poison but framer also makes sense given my usual inability to play well with others as town.

Given town has a protective role most likely, scum have to be able to thwart the cop.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:18 am

In post 894, dramonic wrote:I mean. As the flips stands, I think it's likely that there's only one faction and an sk, and "burnt" is basically a flavor godfather cuz mold cop. Framer has no utility in cross-faction games.

In post 975, dramonic wrote:Okay, first and foremost, unless you wanna run a cannibalistic pastry theory, "eaten" is a kill performed by a non-pastry AKA 3rd party.
AKA SK
Second, we've had no mafia kills N2 and N3. With both the doctor and RB dead, the odds of two mafias systematically missing their kills is slim to none.
Third, Reck tried to fakeclaim burnt cop. Of all the things to claim, claiming something that, if it draws a counterclaim, benefits the opposing scumteam, is absurd. He's better than that.
Fourth, his action on night 1 has yet to kill you, and nobody else has declared infection (which is rather curious, but we were missing some players yesterday). Pretty sure it was framer, the same way Sprinkles was probably an inventor.

"served flambé" is most likely a kill flavor specific to one goon in particular, who is investigation-immune by virtue of being burnt and not moldy.
I already explained this.

oh, and obviously

If anyone has been targetted by reck on Night 2, we need to know. kthx.

In post 1004, dramonic wrote:On reread, there's actually a decent chance Reck didn't frame because the cop was already dead.

In post 1003, dramonic wrote:Or, yknow, it's for Rhizopus, has previously indicated, which is a mold, and we had a mold cop, so it's just a goddamn frame.
Holy fuck you guys are allergic to Occam's Razor.

I'm gonna assume Espy hasnt been molded because he didnt say anything in his last 10 useless posts.

Vote: Seraphim

I'd like to hear from Pere.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:46 pm

@TF, while I agree it's theoretically possible, what scum immediately comes in and gave me this boost? It seems more likely that Reck was a scum JOAT that game Seraphim caramel.

Perhaps this is really dumb but we never did this before...

Mod: Can we see Reck's role PM (omitting of course any gamebreaking material)?

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:58 pm

Can you at least tell us what he could do?

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:07 pm

I'm beginning to think so too. I mean it's obvious from my perspective what has to be here, but that depends on me being town.

I'm rather torn on the Yakko wagon ATM.

It's countering the wagon that conftown wants, and no one's really saying why Gamma's town. Yet, Yakko hasn't done shit. Yakko didn't do shit in Jabberwocky either, but by the time he came in the slot was boned. Maybe that case could be made here.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:14 pm

@Gamma, I don't by a vig shooting UT. That's the problem. So even if Arguendo you aren't scum with Reck/Seraphim, you could be an SK or multiball on another team.

Titus · Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:16 pm

We can actually test my theory to see who if anyone claims one shot vig and only that role claims. If no one claims to have shot UT, then we know that an SK or second scum team must exist.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:03 am

In post 1395, Gammagooey wrote:titus, there's been a single extra kill in four nights, with nikanor the doctor having been dead since night 2.

sometimes you gotta occam's razor some shit. there's not a second scumteam or SK here.

No. That's exactly what they want. Like I said, we can test the theory. Whoever shot UT steps forward. If they are a one shot vig, outing that player makes it more likely they are town. I wear egg on my face. If no one claims it, we know that I am right.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:04 am

It's obvious I don't claim it. Do you Gamma?

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:32 am

That's the only claim I am interested in right now.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:38 am

Occam's Razor says no one shot vig at all.

No claim day 2. If they didn't claim here, it's Anti-Town at best.
Not claiming here before we determine if massclaim is a good idea highly points to no vig.

Why are you wanting a full massclaim to verify the obvious?

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:39 am

*not a good idea

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:33 am

@Gamma, Or scum did not like Occam's Razor regarding my filling and shot dram so he woulfn't push that.

Also, why are you excluding scum trying to shoot TF. They have max 2 scum. Espy is confirmed town but TF should be able to out scum.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:34 am

That is unless..oh wait there's a role blocker.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:15 am

@Gamma, I never said they'd shoot me. I never knew what it was. I went along with poison because a quick google search showed it made sense.

Scum need mislynches. Espy hasn't exactly been clear when he speaks, so he's not as big a threat. Roleblock TF. Set me up for lynch. Also avoid the doctor if any.

So yeah maybe I am paranoid but I am looking for a theory that makes sense. One shot vig does not, so what are the Flambe's doing?

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:19 am

If you don't care about role theories, why do you want a massclaim Gamma?

Also, I only think role theory is good to the extent we define what must exist.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:21 am

I agree we don't see eye to eye on things.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:27 am

If you saw the flipped power roles, you would know that scum MUST have a method of fucking with cops. If they did not, the game becomes obvious follow the cop.

Reck visited me with an unknown substance, which I immediately claimed. That's likely a frame. We are presuming that Reck visited Sera, that means Caramel is a tailoring of some kind. Caramel makes things sweeter maybe?

Second, scum had a gf and a framer...that's it? While we have a lot of PRs?

We likely have two evil killing factions.

I just want that confirmed or dispelled today.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:14 am

In post 1422, Toon Fighter wrote:But if we have two killing factions

Where are the kills?

The mystery remains

Indeed, that is a mystery. We had a doctor and a roleblock flip. Jailor, BP or scum being crosskill immune all make sense.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:14 am

PV's inventor claim might work if it overloaded Doc and RB.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:15 am

In post 1423, tn5421 wrote:even and odd night faction abilities?

Unlikely given how often eaten shows up.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:47 am

PV, I am NOT pushing for a massclaim. I am against it but for anyone claiming to shoot UT. If no one shot UT, we have two anti-town killing factions most likely. Or is there some flaw in that plan.

I am steadfast AGAINST massclaim.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:20 am

Actually, you should. Anyone who shot UT should have claimed it right away. The goal is not to survive but to solve the game.

We cannot efficiently solve the game until we know what we are looking for.

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:24 am

In post 1431, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 1403, Gammagooey wrote:also, seriously. we have a roleblocker and a doctor flipped, and a 1-shot doc claimed. A SK would have gotten a kill through either n3 or n4. A second scumteam would have too unless you think they're no-killing despite having no members of their team flipped because ????

who is the one shot doc?

PV

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:39 am

So you received a one shot roleblock? Or that you were blocked?

Titus · Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:39 am

Maybe it is possible that the last scum actually shot UT and received a one shot vig? It sounds too neat but plausible.

Titus · Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:21 am

Espy, if you want Gamma lynched today, mislynching me is literally the worst thing you could do statregically. I am the only voter on Gamma and the only one helping you get Gamna lynched. I am trying to work with you but it's very difficult to do so. If I didn't know you were town, I would probably be tunnelling you because its near impossible to follow your logic despite me trying my best to.

I also agree with PV. Full reasons are helpful. Dodging around in the dark is not.

Titus · Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:35 am

In post 1451, Gammagooey wrote:I'd consider voting Titus but I really REALLY want yakko to show up and post first.

I might have already said this but I thought PV was likely scum because his push on sera without voting was really similar to how I would play that situation as scum - attack scum but say that other people are scummy too so you have an out if you can get someone else lynched. and I was thinking pretty much the same thing with dram not dying because scum had the doc and knew they couldn't kill him that night, but PV's ignorance of Titus+Reck's role interaction just seems so similar to all the other derptowns I've seen completely miss something enormously obvious to everyone else in the game.

And you ignore my interactions?

I claim intent to vote Sera and he's hammered in less than an hour? Or Reck's major blow up.
?

There are reasons why I scumread you. This fallacy is one. I bet Espy just did this to see who would jump and you fell hard. At least that's what I hope he was doing.

Titus · Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:40 am

PV your quote made me realize that I hadn't replied to 1348. My VCA starts with the votes and then goes to why, not the why and then look at the votes. For those pushing Sera hard, why did my intent cause a wagon switch?

Titus · Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:41 am

Yakko, get out here or I am voting you.

Titus · Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:34 pm

VOTE: Yakko

The Jabberwocky wants the scum back. Thank you.

Titus · Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:03 pm

In post 1461, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 1460, Titus wrote:VOTE: Yakko

The Jabberwocky wants the scum back. Thank you.

what if flip town? I think you should look at my other scum game an open game id say that's more indicative.

I'll sort it out later if you do. Give me a reason why I should care or why an open is more indicative even. Jabberwocky was closed. This game is closed. Both you lurked after subbing in. You got lynched there.

Why should I expect a different result here?

Titus · Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:20 am

Read his ISO in Jabberwocky side by side with this. There's not much difference. If there was, I would hate this Yakko wagon as anobvious counter to Gamma.

Titus · Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:13 pm

@Espeonage, How about a total lack of content and a total appareance of self preservation from Yakko?

Oh wait, that's the same thing as Jabberwocky... so does that even count?

Well, there's nothing else left in his ISO so... I can't fabricate posts.

Titus · Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:46 pm

And OMGUS rather than content.

Titus · Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:45 am

Can we hammer Yakko?

When he flips scum, that should clear Gamma, sorry man.

Titus · Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:20 am

Yakko. Rate everyone. Period.

Gun to your head. Two towns. Name em.

Titus · Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:21 am

By the way, you are not allowed to include the conftown.

Titus · Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:25 am

LOL Yeah let's lynch Yakko.

Titus · Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:25 pm

@Espy

Let's wait on TF's result and think it through. Then we assess just what we have and move forward.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:17 am

I am a jailkeeper. I have been trying to jailkeep TF because he was a primary kill target, ever since he outed his results on Reck. It's also why I suspected there was a missing kill. TF's insistance that he got results in spite of my heavily suggesting he was roleblocked told me that I must have been roleblocked and that scum wanted TF to visit people because 1) I was framed and 2) They had a method of clearing themselves (most likely). TF's utility, if we could confirm a roleblocker was lynched, would be deadly in lylo. Plus I have no idea what the fuck Espy's doing and wifom on killing the IC. I jailed TF every night since N2.

1. I did not kill anyone.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:22 am

I forgot. Chocolate Croissant is my flavor.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:13 am

TF, that's literally not possible.

What part of Reck visiting me was a frame do you not understand? Also, I really don't get how you have gotten any sort of result since Day 2. That's utterly absurd. Either you can continue this asisine gambit of yours, which is a bad Slayer's gambit against my will or we can lynch

actual

scum.

Why do you think they kept you alive for so long? All the while you were "clearing" people? With a cop present and flipped?

I just can't tell if you're dumb or scum.

I'm going to look at this later but no you make ZERO sense right now, although your narrative is much nicer and neater than the truth.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:17 am

TF, is your theory right now that I am the last scum, no matter what? No SK no anything...

If so, I propose a plan. I find the mysterious SK or a scum with my next vote. If said player is not, you mislynch me and we lose. Period.

WE have two kills tonight and I highly doubt anyone's going to claim Vig with the broohahha yesterday.

But I really don't see anyway beyond this without proving my really complex theory which sounds bad and implausible but *shrug* it's all I got.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:22 am

TF, are you not understanding a frame?

The mod is not going to tell you

Oh by the way TF do not trust your results, you were framed

You don't get it do you? There's a shit ton of missing kills, scum have to have a method of blocking the follow the cop, yet zero full doctors have claimed TF. None. So how ELSE have the kills gone missing but they targeted you...

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:23 am

We're going to massclaim this out. It's the only logical thing to do at this point.

The only question is, do we want me to explain my theory (removing the name of the SK) before hand or not?

I have gaming in a few minutes, but if you want to wait, I'll post it tomorrow.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:35 am

As you should be uneasy.

Thank you.

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:31 pm

Ok, I'm going to break this down, since I am here early. This tries to take the most

objective

stance possible, not presuming my alignment at all. I've been told that this is the biggest problem with my VCA but here I don't have that problem.

Spoiler: Eaten is the Serial Killer; Served Flambe and Melted Are Mafia

Part 2: Can we determine precisely who either evil faction is?

Spoiler: Kalimar is the only possible serial killer

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Spoiler: Kalimar being the serial killer is consistent with his behavior

There's no way to prove which of TN or TF is mafia... yet but Kalimar must be the serial killer. Naturally, they'll both think they are clear, but it's best to have that discussion tomorrow where only one killing faction is left alive.

Spoiler: Where are the missing kills?

Spoiler: TF's results are inaccurate, regardless of his intentions

Spoiler: Supporting evidence for my being framed

VOTE: Kalimar

Titus · Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:33 pm

Kalimar's push on TF or me also serves an SK purpose. If he can narrow the pool, there's no way for him to be lynched.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:55 am

UNVOTE:

There was zero possibility of scum hammer because of SK. Look at kill flavor. There is no vig.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:03 am

@TF, Stop tunneling. Kills are player specific.
We know that because there's no way of two one shot vigs. TN and Kalimar would each be required to claim two antitown kills on a cop and a joat. That is not happening.
So we have two antitown killers.
Served Flambe and Melted area both thematically consistent, which suggests they are from the same faction.
Therefore, eaten id the serial killer.
PV was eaten.
Your results have me visiting the serial killer's victim and you

That creates two major problems for your results.
1) There's no nonbastard way an SK visits two players.
2) There is no plausible mafia action consistent with the results you reported

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:24 am

Mod: What was this derp?

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:53 am

Now that's convient.

Name a role that would visit you, not stop your results, not be a killing role and have any use for scum whatsoever...

Visiting Gamma is more consistent with a frame as it frames me for their kill.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:58 am

Even if you somehow think I am scum after that, who is the serial killer.

Your actions, if true, eliminate TN.
You cannot be the SK due to tracking ability.
Espy is conftown.
I am your inaccurate scum theory.

It all leads to Kalimar as the SK.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:34 am

In post 1565, Toon Fighter wrote:It's not my fault the mod derped. I have told the truth in all my results

You told what to

believe

to be true or you are scum and the mod derped either your results or some other thing.

You have been evading my logic which even accounts for your results and just repeating the truth.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:35 am

**according to what you believe it to be.

I strongly believe those are your results but they are a frame job.

The derp by the mod was framing to the SK kill.

Titus · Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:35 pm

@Kalimar, You being anything other than SK means there is no SK. Please address that.

You have taken the position that TF is honest town with all results.
If that is the case, you must be the SK.
The SK has killed every night.
TN is cleared by TF.
Espy is conftown.
You have me as groupscum. Thus no SK.

You dismiss my facts as "convoluted" with no more. You spend paragraphs doing boilerplate things such as "Titus wasn't paranoid enough" and Titus push on Yakko sucked.

You accuse me of "not being paranoid enough" but in the next breath state that I am not automatically assuming TF is lying is a problem. That's talking out of both sides of your mouth. Either I am trying to dolve the game or not.

Reck's act had to do something. Why claim my buddies act D2 spontaneously?
Why would I claim an action that I had not submitted at all when a VT and total frame is much easier?
What role would visit TF as scum and not kill him or modify his results?

That was an epic deflection wall which makes no sense.