Spring Waltz - [Game Over]

[Marquis]

mollie, dance with me pls

[Marquis]

you already pointed that out in sitechat and fakegod also already pointed out scum would just ninja the deadline

[Marquis]

it's interesting that after 2 years and multiple games together since then it's only now that you bring it up again

[Marquis]

who, dance with me

[Marquis]

who, dance with me

You are a Lady.

Gentlemen must ask.

sadie hawkins was my school's spring dance tho :(

[Marquis]

notty you'd better not leave me here all alone

[Marquis]

who, dance with me

You're a lady, it is quite unseemly for you to do the asking. Also, I prefer to get to know people before I dance with them.

And I'm pretty sure I've brought it up multiple times.

UNSEEMLY

[Marquis]

for a lady you sure are prowling

[Marquis]

Marquis, will you dance with me?

i would say yes but we're gonna have to take this to the supreme court first.

[Marquis]

1950s spontaneous spring marriage waltz?

[Marquis]

marriage spring waltz, i mean

[Marquis]

sns, I don't think either knew the other's alignment before the role PMs were sent out. I think it's pretty null, what they did.

lol

[Marquis]

i am hoping notty will love me but nobody loves me yet

[Marquis]

Your questions suck and have no weight

There, i said it.

jackel wants aerthem in the same way ika wants you

[Marquis]

why did that quote, i never even hit the quote button

[Marquis]

you're town i'm town let's get it on

[Marquis]

Why am I sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?

[Marquis]

10 Reasons That Prove I Would Make The Best Dance Partner, Like, Ever. #9 Will Blow Your Mind.

Spoiler: 1.

Spoiler: 2.

Spoiler: 3.

Spoiler: 4.

Spoiler: 5.

Spoiler: 6.

Spoiler: 7.

Spoiler: 8.

Spoiler: 9.

Spoiler: 10.

[Marquis]

I knew it was a futurama reference...?..? I was just curious why marq quoted my signature

[Marquis]

Kagami, shall we dance?

Only reason I might accept this over gaiden is that I'm confident gaiden is town.

uh

?

[Marquis]

Marquis, numbers eight through ten are not all that appealing to me. :neutral:

well if 9 didn't blow your mind i'm sure we could arrange an appointment with 10

[Marquis]

Kagami, shall we dance?

Only reason I might accept this over gaiden is that I'm confident gaiden is town.

uh

?

what are you confused about?

oh originally i thought kagami made a typo then i realized she didn't then i realized what she meant.

i feel like i always read who wrong due to ego but i'm fine with him getting blasted right out the gate if that's the case

[Marquis]

mollie how likely do you think it is that i die today

i actually don't want to die today

i thought i would have to fend off the men as usual :(

[Marquis]

this was made public in sitechat often so i think it's ok if i reveal it, but they know each other irl iirc. which is why he's activity posting a lot waiting for him/her to show up

[Marquis]

also i love how i will be able to buddy you again this game without ever having to be secretly paranoid that you're scum! it's a good feeling

[Marquis]

[Marquis]

Lady Marquis (who is clearly flaunting her looks while concealing her lack of personality)

[Marquis]

The opposite way that Marquis' frenzy to dance was. At first I was like frantically seeking partner is scum, buuut I think Marquis is Marquis and he's going off the deep end.

i just fully expected it to be like the other times where i'd have my pick of the men, but alas! realistic gender distributions :(

[Marquis]

i am sorry to inform you but this is not spain

they're not as... accommodating toward our kind here

[Marquis]

Lady snscompt1,

may I have this dance?

i take back what i said you're scum and you're going to burn

[Marquis]

ok so aerthem is actually scum and this is a real one

[Marquis]

jackel never officially proposed, it's 9 pages in, and sudden accept? bleh

[Marquis]

[Marquis]

My dearest lady Marquis, would you care to dance?

i'm saddled up and READY to RIDE

[Marquis]

i'm cool with farside being all alone i guess. apparently i can't read her either

[Marquis]

oh yeah aerthem jackel isn't official yet!

that's a good candidate for ditching too

[Marquis]

I agree with everything Lady Venmary said on this page.

is this out of obligation or an honest thing? because now that i'm safe & sound i do want to get down to that.

[Marquis]

???????????????

i'm not implying anything i literally just asked andy to clarify because while it's partially my fault i can't tell where the partnerthings begin or end

pedit ok yay me too

[Marquis]

you're implying that you may or may not agree with my post

btw i am also implying that dolphins may or may not be adorable

[Marquis]

???????????????

i'm not implying anything i literally just asked andy to clarify because while it's partially my fault i can't tell where the partnerthings begin or end

pedit ok yay me too

Fair enough, though I still did ask you a question and would like you to answer it rather than overlook it.

i've given my opinion on aerthem multiple times now come on venny

[Marquis]

busy week, will post sometime tomorrow

[Marquis]

mollie
notty
anti
sns
ika

ftr i'm nowhere near certain notty is town but his flailing here and pt posts are good enough for now

VOTE: aerthem

this still happens. later later

[Marquis]

one word:

scumbirds

[Marquis]

see i think mnemonic could be scum but sns is totally town

but then aerthem is probscum and who is who so that's better by far

[Marquis]

I was afraid of being left out and forced to leave. All of the people I knew from previous games all had partners.
Leaving would be against my wincon since I dont know anyone elses alignment.

because this was literally the same exact thing going through my head.

i knew ika would pair with mollie, anti etl, andrius venmar, gaiden kagami, jackel aerthem. those were all obvious. leaving who, you and mnemonic, and who would never step into the same room as me given the choice. mnemonic was a wildcard that i lost to sns later on, and sorry if this is mean but though now i know i should have been been able to count on you, we haven't talked in forever and i didn't know if you were still mad at me.

so yeah. sns is town because with that comment and pov in mind, his posts are super honest. i'd be willing to lynch him only because i feel nothing at all close to that from mnemonic, but i'd much rather prefer a who-aerthem thing where both have good chances of being scum. i can easily see them as scumpartners too, when mollie wanted to save bait and literally everyone else thought aerthem was scum but who just ignored it which makes sense for trying an under the radar save.

[Marquis]

Not terribly happy about who's choice, but still think he's town.

Is ns saying anything in your PT, marquis?

no

im scared of marquis I just didnt want to die in pregame

:(

Why scared of marquis? Marquis is a little fluffy bunny.

[Marquis]

almost every single thing he's said so far reminds me of the old days, like even before i stopped being comfortable with reading him. as in it's like our old doduo towngames and he's just as spastic and "SCUMFUCK"y

and this is mostly just nulltown but i also told him "like etl said i'm not going to put up with any inactive shit" and he didn't see etl post that at first so he thought i scumslipped something etl and i talked about in a scum pt

[Marquis]

i'll admit i might have exaggerated the towniness of that last part earlier and i still feel burned but i'm sure enough that he's town that my paranoia isn't even enough to want me to suicide at all right now which is surprising for this setup

[Marquis]

i was halfway through trying to organize a readslist but then i realized making a deathlist would probably be a lot more useful brb

[Marquis]

never lynch (i can almost guarantee you that at least one of us is going to suicide anyway later on but still no lynch)

notscience - Marquis (blah blah blah)
ika - pirate mollie (usual ika, not sure exactly if town ika but if this pair was anywhere/one else i'd feel really really wrong)
Antihero - EspeciallyTheLies (townish anti earlier, obvtown etl)







<massive linebreak gap to symbolize... massive gap>

do not lynch today

SXTLHGaiden - Kagami (kagami: good enough to get you up here. gaiden: kagami is hauling your ass around)
Andrius - Venmar (i have no idea how to read either of them. some of venmar's aerthem posts sound kinda over the top but then i completely agree with them sooo idk)

ok i guess but would rather not

mnemonicdevice - snscompt1 (sns town, mnemonic... meh)

these die today

Jackel98 - farside22 (i don't think i've had any reason to townread jackel at all so far [this is more a total lack of townread thing than a scumread] and i recently realized what i thought was a towntell for farside was just something i probably latched on to because i hadn't seen her scumgame before)


Who - Aerthem (nope. nope.)

[Marquis]

wait

fg does the timeout->mafia win rule apply if we don't lynch twice this phase?

[Marquis]

VOTE: mnemonic

sorry sns if you're town. But I don't want to risk anyone taking notty and me any further, and time is lacking for 2 lynches.

[Marquis]

i didn't even realize he was until your post above

i'm not really that upset at him just "huh ok". his activity's still been spotty lately so i'll just wait until he gets back

[Marquis]

yeah.

okay.

VOTE: Aerthem

[Marquis]

Also we're all clearly town because we're not afraid to vote.

i'm marquis and i approve of this message

[Marquis]

this is the same kind of INFURIATING-even-in-my-eyes that i expect from town gaiden

[Marquis]

between jackel/farside and who/aerthem i think they're equally likely to kill scum, but the latter has an added bonus of maybe 2 scum!

headcanoning about who stalling the last pairing without content or importance so as to look like he was actually trying to decide between them for real

[Marquis]

what are you talking about

[Marquis]

i would vote farside on principle if the whorethem wagon wasn't tasty enough already

[Marquis]

who/aerthem

whorethem

[Marquis]

mollie i remember that and how it sucked so hard when i got spoilers

but it's not the same, trust me

[Marquis]

leave my husband alone

[Marquis]

...even if you are probtown.

i'll get back to this game later

[Marquis]

no she said hammer

do it

[Marquis]

I'm toying with the idea of marquis scum, maybe realizing he has to carry me or our pair will get lynched an basically him caught fofr the wrong reasons. I get that kinda vibe off his posts, but idk.

this is actually pretty much what's going on except i actually think we're both town this time

[Marquis]

i feel like this wagon is getting way too much resistance. i mean not scum resistance but resistance from town and normally i'd think it implies mislynch but right now it just feels more like town second guessing itself on a scumlynch and scum sitting back and hoping for wagon implosion to happen.

[Marquis]

i am actually really really surprised that ika didn't just hammer out of the blue.

[Marquis]

mollie

[Marquis]

i think whenever i've been scum i've gone the emotionally paranoid route against you (sabotage, xmen). and i know me being aware of and opening up about that meta opens up the possibility that i could be manipulating it rn but i hope this game i've proved being town enough for it not to be a question and i always kind of felt shitty when i did that anyway so don't plan on using it again. yw

i'm also feeling more survivalistic rn than actually paranoid. like i saw how town lost the previous games too, i think it was either i forced someone to leave or i left and we lost out of that paranoia. so actually i think the most accurate description of my mindset is paranoid of paranoia. which is inception-esque fucking with myself but. blah

i can't leave it behind. and i guess if i want to end this on a cool double liner, i can't leave you behind either.

pedit who's choice of aerthem over bait in spite of mollie's baitlove and multiple people scumreading aerthem was bizarre to the point where it makes a lot of sense as scum with no other choice but to save a scumpartner

[Marquis]

april fool's!

[Marquis]

well at least one of them is scum for sure.

VOTE: anti

[Marquis]

etl i still think you're town but you should leave now and let us move on.

pedit ok.

[Marquis]

i'll get to this later when i feel less dumb about it

[Marquis]

i think neither ika nor mollie are scum and scum expect an easy post-no-nk mollie leaving or ika being an easier mislynch. the only thing that gives me pause here is ika's lurking because iirc that falls more in line with his scumgame. but then i've been avoiding this game like the plague lately so it feels like it should be null? idk everything sucks

...i still think who is scum, but not aerthem. mollie trying to save the slot and kagami pushing it does make sense for the kill choice too.

i think jackel and farside now actually do have a good chance of both being scum. or at least jackel because i keep wanting to scumread farside but i'm not sure of how much of that is due to how i completely let her go unsuspected last game.

i think notty is town and it's not just because i want to trust his attitude so badly but this is mostly contingent in expecting scum in jackel/farside and who/aerthem, and vvv:

i think andrius is scum if who isn't but that's slim. i have absolutely no read on venmar other than agreeing with while kinda cringing at his stances which sort of cancels out into a blankity blank blank.

gtg now for most of the day so these are some bare outline reads. but i want to know why exactly andrius thinks venmar is town, and why venmar thinks andrius is town. because if there's any scum under the radar for me rn there's at least one in that pair.

[Marquis]

andy i'm just not as emotionally invested in the game as i'd like to be

like i'm pretty sure my reads are on point now but the game moves so slow it's hard to get attached

[Marquis]

VOTE: andrius

i'll be back sometine tomorrow to elaborate, but his venmar townread with supposed notscience paranoia theory thing make no sense from a town perspective.

[Marquis]

god i need to look at like... everything again, don't i

i've had primarily only phone access to ms for the past few days and really haven't wanted to tackle this on mobile especially with the paranoia i think is starting to settle in finally. family's easter outing shenanigans are settling down by tonight though so i think i can promise being here to work some stuff out then

[Marquis]

i am keeping up just fine the problem right now is finding enough time to sit down and actually think without relatives breathing over my shoulder and ranting about my daily usage of technology or whatever

[Marquis]

and scratch what i said earlier, i definitely do care about solving this game unlike what andy keeps saying. i just only now realized what's actually been getting on my nerves the past few days

[Marquis]

dude wow. my 9 year old is a handful on his own but i can't imagine trying to play mafia like that daily lol. props to you for keeping the activity up all the time with that

[Marquis]

yeah i'm just gonna

VOTE: who

so i can get to work with it finally out of my mind

sorry aer. i think

[Marquis]

MOLLIE DO NOT.

IF WE LOSE ANOTHER TOWN PAIR WE LOSE

[Marquis]

ika and notty are town for now (probably town after too but that doesn't matter)

mollie unless you think ika notty and i are all scum there is no reason not to lynch out of andy/ven and jack/fars. there is no way there are any less than two scum there

like fuck

no

pedit oh my god stop it

[Marquis]

mollie i am town

and notty is maybe town but more town than andy and ven and jackel at least

just going to ignore farside for now because i think reading her is going to be pointless without an associative

[Marquis]

ok i don't know about notty actually but i'm taking any 50%s today

[Marquis]

Marquis
pirate mollie
ika

notscience


Jackel98
farside22
Andrius
Venmar

i don't think i have any real reasons for scumreading jackel besides the activity and the whole idea about picking aerthem to survive but then picking farside was out of nowhere and makes total sense as scum together. i hate how andrius brought up the whole venmar notscience pt talking thing to use as a reason to vote us while simultaneously ignoring any mention of venmar having a chance to be scum. and venmar has done absolutely nothing except that one post seeding me for a mislynch while andy goes for notty so it feels even more like a double angle mislynch

pedit okay! great!

VOTE: andyven

but we are going to do this first because if notty or i end the game it's not going to be until this gets flipped.

pedit

[Marquis]

okay. ika's lurking anyway so it's okay i guess.

[Marquis]

i am just

going to sit here

and eat my cashews

pedit ok

this is fun

[Marquis]

how long has it been since nothing surprised me anymore

[Marquis]

i am not dealing

time for fanfiction

night

[Marquis]

god

how do you even play mafia

i keep wanting to be one of those people who just mods games now but i can't stop joining not to mention the whole idea of me being one of those "retired" players feels like a bad joke

[Marquis]

eh

VOTE: farside

reverse. or something. idk we'll "discuss" this tomorrow or something

notty if you're town in case the only reason you haven't been leaving is because of me, i'm not going to hold it against you if you do. i've had to stop myself from succumbing and leaving like at least 6 times by now just because i keep freaking out over why you haven't left yet

later i guess

[Marquis]

lol

[Marquis]

short response: at least i did one thing right last night

ttyl all <3 please don't lynch notty and me over jackel farside while i'm gone <3 bye

[Marquis]

I actually did want to play this game I just got held up in out of game shit and rl>maf so

[Marquis]

i feel like nothing i say is going to stop this because mollie died screaming my name and i have no idea who the town i should be appealing to is

[Marquis]

various dead town paired with various dead scumreads that turned out to be town

and one dead townread that turned out to be scum with our conftown

[Marquis]

in hindsight flipping the double mild paranoiaish scumread pair first would probably have turned out better

and now i'm stuck here and dying

[Marquis]

1054 -> 1061

also andrius the way you keep pushing how i've done nothing this game and that it translates across the board is still insulting af

i know i let this game down and persona too. but just because these are your only experience's with my play don't give you the right to fuck with the way others see my towngame the way you've been doing. shit happens, and it's happened a lot as of late. but i fucking hate when people say all i ever do is sit around and be useless, and i hate even more when it feels like people are using it as a way to manipulate the way they or others read me.

[Marquis]

god

apostrophe out of experiences

don't want you saying i can't grammar either hm

[Marquis]

fact is, i'm town, but not because i've just been useless and that corresponds with my town meta for some reason or whatever.

and i'm pretty sure nothing i say is going to stop our lynch.

but i'm still not leaving and i'm not going to shut up because i still think notty's town and if this is a loss it won't be on my hands.

[Marquis]

1054 -> 1061

also andrius the way you keep pushing how i've done nothing this game and that it translates across the board is still insulting af

i know i let this game down and persona too. but just because these are your only experience's with my play don't give you the right to fuck with the way others see my towngame the way you've been doing. shit happens, and it's happened a lot as of late. but i fucking hate when people say all i ever do is sit around and be useless, and i hate even more when it feels like people are using it as a way to manipulate the way they or others read me.

Looking for LIVING players, Marquis.
Dead ones aren't particularly helpful at this point.

I am not trying to be a complete ass to you. My goal is, as always, to get people to PLAY THE GAME THEY SIGNED UP TO PLAY or have the humility to realize they overcommitted/are overburdened/not sufficiently interested and their continued involvement in the game is detrimental to the success of their faction and the health of the game as a whole and /out. Or re-evaluate their commitment and re-engage with the game.

I don't think I'm doing anything big here other than asking people to play the games they sign up to play. PERSONA you were around for a bit then over-committed and /outed. That was the right play as someone took over for you who was willing to play. I only ask that here you do the same; re-engage properly or /out. Simple as that. farside and I have said it here time and time again.

People need to play the games they sign up to play.
Period.

1) i hate replacing out of games. hate it. that game and pokemon gen ii upick were the only ones i've done that for in a long time because it was still early and a replacement wouldn't have to deal with too much of my shit. but i hate having to put the mod through that when i can still be here and caught up even if not super big bags of "analysis" or whatever it is you seem to think is "acceptable play"

2) this is a fakegod large. there's no point in replacing out even if i can't commit to posting a ton of shit because then we'd both die anyway

3) i still don't know what the fuck you mean by not engaging properly

like i actually looked over my iso just now and i actually have no idea what you mean by me not engaging, and your calls of me not playing the game either are off as hell. because it's pretty fucking clear that up until irl and other shit came in i've been just as active and ~engaged~ as you. just because i haven't been posting as much the past few days doesn't mean you can just take my whole contribution to the game and go "oh look at marquis, he's been useless the whole time, either he's scum or he deserves it anyway so let's lynch him and his totally scum partner and we can end the game right!?!?"

fuck no

VOTE: andrius

calling an andrius-farside team now. if i'm going to be the bait here, i'm going down right.

[Marquis]

You come across as washing your hands and being all NOPE I DIDNT CAUSE THIS LOSS and that's frustrating. Doing nothing is as bad as being detrimental.
And I'm not saying I'm single-handedly winning the game or leading us all to victory or being TOWN BASTION OF LIGHT AND SANITY AGAINST THE DARKNESS but I am playing the game which is the minimum expectation for players of this game.

oh as if you didn't just copy my thoughts on who-aerthem from predance into first dance and then expect me to cave in "oh woe is me, it is my fault i sat back and let the rest of town die, i should be okay with being mislynched here because i deserve it"

here's my fake emotionally burned out laugh for you: ha haa haaaa

[Marquis]

yeaaaaah my iso post-early pre-dance is nowhere near the wasteland of town self-mutilation that andrius keeps saying it is and i am going out high on that. later later yall

[Marquis]

huh

[Marquis]

andy/farside not possible :/

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

gtg to dinner but notty/farside doesn't seem that unlikely actually with farside ignoring notty completely in her "analysis"

i'll look over this again after

[Marquis]

farside

...reads really town right now

[Marquis]

it's not even like the smalltown, her points sound town AND make sense in terms of importance as much as i hate to bring up the ika read again

[Marquis]

Marquis: why did you vote for anti in post 829?
Bleck I so hate post 898.
His read on ika makes me up chuck in my mouth.
Admittedly post 1005 really bothers me how marquis pushes Mollie not to leave and want to hunt only the other pairs

i think if you try to scumhunt me based on the quality of my reads you're going to be really disappointed. and this probably applies to most of my recent play too which is also disappointing.

anti started out decently enough, then i let him pass assuming it was activetown!anti as usual. but then whoever it was brought him lurking again and i was really really sure it was scum anti because literally every time except for this, when anti's been active elsewhere and lurking in a game it's because he hates being scum.

and then i was townreading ika from their not-death because i thought scum ika would play up and try to actively deflect by bringing up how he and mollie didn't die, but then ika made like one post about not lurking which is in line with his scum meta too then hammered and i thought scum ika wouldn't risk hammering like that after discussion.

like

scum ika was so obvious that it didn't feel right at all

[Marquis]

farside

...reads really town right now

If you saw my face you'd be flinching right now.

i have a feeling this is related to murder or similar topics

but i honestly don't blame anyone after the last few days and my choices throughout the game. no fucking way can you say i wasn't trying, but the ends didn't exactly justify

well

anything

[Marquis]

asdkjfaslkjdkh;l';

you're all ignoring notty and farside still is and andy makes one offhand about him and i thought we were going to be lynched for sure but now i keep thinking someone doesn't want to bus after all anddddddddd

blaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Marquis]

get off your high fucking horse

all you did was take my shitty reads and articulate them better and push the towndeaths through

my later play dropped off with every fucking mislynch but if you're town you there's no way you can legitimately think you have the right to attack me for fucking up how you did but in less aesthetically pleasing ways

[Marquis]

@ andry

[Marquis]

@ andry

[Marquis]

like, i distinctly remember getting really fucking pissed off at you for this earlier today.

or maybe you chose to ignore that like the rest of my posts

hm hm

[Marquis]

ugh
i'll come back when i feel less rude.

[Marquis]

wow.

[Marquis]

nearly all of my commentary was genuine. the level of intensity was mostly not.

i'm sorry.

[Marquis]

also when talking about my 9 year old, i accidentally omitted the work "cousin". i'm not that old.

[Marquis]

word*

[Marquis]

[Marquis]

i've said what i've needed to say in the scum pt.