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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sun May 17, 2015 10:05 am

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VOTE: notscience
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sun May 17, 2015 10:25 am

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Inb4 katsuki fake dayvigs.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #2) » Sun May 17, 2015 9:34 pm

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In post 156, Brian Skies wrote:I think this game is moving towards a Day 1 massclaim.

I'm not claiming. My role is awesome and I'm keeping it under wraps.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #3) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:23 pm

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In post 272, Nachomamma8 wrote:and you're pushing me despite the signals that say DO NOT PUSH which already are much much louder than they should be

Lol

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Post Post #367 (isolation #4) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:17 pm

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In post 340, Mac wrote:
In post 276, Muffin wrote:
In post 272, Nachomamma8 wrote:and you're pushing me despite the signals that say DO NOT PUSH which already are much much louder than they should be

Lol

VOTE: nacho

In post 277, lalaladucks wrote:Finished V/LA
Things here seem quite intriguing
Nachos are yummy

VOTE: nachomamma with guacamole


i don't like either of these. muffins I can arguably see where he's coming from but I think it's really cheap to just quote a post and saying "lol" with a vote. it's just shit.
Why's it shit?
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Post Post #370 (isolation #5) » Tue May 19, 2015 3:09 pm

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In post 368, lalaladucks wrote:It's not shit. It's a big, steaming pile of guacamole.


Meaning what
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Post Post #406 (isolation #6) » Wed May 20, 2015 8:40 am

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Nacho is not giving me town vibes even remotely.

Scum having an off game?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #7) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:30 am

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Possibly katsuki and gaiden.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #8) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:56 am

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In post 410, SXTLHGaiden wrote:
In post 408, Muffin wrote:Possibly katsuki and gaiden.

lol

lol
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Post Post #463 (isolation #9) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:16 pm

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In post 450, Sakura Hana wrote:Also Gaiden is town.


No doubt you can highlight posts gaiden has made that are town.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #10) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:33 pm

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In post 464, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 463, Muffin wrote:
In post 450, Sakura Hana wrote:Also Gaiden is town.


No doubt you can highlight posts gaiden has made that are town.

I could, but why bother? Just look at his posts between my "he's null" and my "he's town" and you'll see. Since a whole majority of those contributed to it.
So you have no basis for your town read? Got it.
In post 465, Sakura Hana wrote:Also your still not addressing the people that have asked you questions, just to jump at me for pulling the "100% accuracy read rate" card on Gaiden, is noted.

This is a gross and blatant misc characterization of what I wrote and you know it.

What's the town motivation for that I wonder?
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Post Post #473 (isolation #11) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:47 pm

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In post 471, Sakura Hana wrote:He's not town for the role, but for the way he went about claiming it @lalaladucks (not the self-vote btw, tho it had something to do with it).
Also i'm going to continue to vote this Muffin guy since he still hasn't addressed Mac and several others questions and instead went with "lol"
The good thing about it is that i don't need to convince people anyway because my vote guarantees he'll die.


If people are going g to call zmuffinman "muffin", as they have been, then they should not be upset when things get missed.

As for your vote, well, I don't really give a shit. I'm town and you can't articulate why gaiden is town.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #12) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:49 pm

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Everyone knows the D1 lynch usually ends up not being the scummiest player but the least charismatic.

If you have some kind of dayvote-vote I'm just going g to be looking in the dead thread about how bad you are
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Post Post #477 (isolation #13) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:49 pm

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In post 474, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 473, Muffin wrote:you can't articulate why gaiden is town.

But I already did...

No you didnt
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Post Post #478 (isolation #14) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:50 pm

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*dayvig vote
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Post Post #481 (isolation #15) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:56 pm

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You're claiming I'm Titus?
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Post Post #482 (isolation #16) » Wed May 20, 2015 3:57 pm

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No Sakura what you did was say "gaiden is town for the way he claimed" but didn't show or say why that was a town way to claim and why scum wouldn't do that. You're so full of sbit.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #17) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:03 pm

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Lol k.

I'll see you in the post game thread and we can talk about the accuracy of your reads.

Meanwhile let's all notice GIF has parked his cote on me all game so far, no pish whatsoever.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #18) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:09 pm

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Holy fuck I hate touch screen keyboards.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #19) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:18 pm

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In post 488, Sakura Hana wrote:Funny how i vote you with "dayvig-vote" as you call it, and you suddenly become more active.
Yeah.
In post 489, Sakura Hana wrote:And you aren't even voting Gaiden, which makes your appearance more interesting as a reaction to my townread on him.
I only have one vote. I find your town read on him baffli g as I find none of his posts town. When asked, you ate unable to point out town posts either.

Get dunked, scum.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #20) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:51 pm

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In post 502, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 494, Muffin wrote:I only have one vote.

Actually, i forgot you had stated a scumread on Katsuki and Gaiden.
Still nice that you're finally being active, care to answer Mac's question that you ignored *again*

Nah. Why should I answer that when you won't answer why gaiden is town?

I'd rather get lynched.

Guess I'll lurk more until D3 or so.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #21) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:56 pm

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OK vig me. I'd rather that than cooperate.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #22) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:24 am

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In post 635, GuyInFreezer wrote:Dunno. That page makes me think muffin is even more scum not duck

Opportunistic
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Post Post #659 (isolation #23) » Thu May 21, 2015 10:25 am

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I feel like the only one who is town reading far side ATM.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #24) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:36 pm

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(Phone post)
In post 661, farside22 wrote:You should both vote kats with me then.

Also muffin.
Hi
I forget your here sometimes.
What could people call you that would stick out?
While I'm asking questions.....is there a reason you keep avoiding mac's questions to you?

Mostly out of spite. I highly doubt sakura's vote has killing powers at day end.

I don't particularly think she is town. Rather I think her inability to come up with a compelling reason for gaiden town, coupled with 502 and 642 looks lime scum who stuck her neck out too far and feels awkward.

Pedit LOL at 684

Such an obvious 'look I'm so town' gambit
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Post Post #686 (isolation #25) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:44 pm

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Notscience's fluff posting reminds me of that one large theme where it went to like 750 pages and he tried to shirk his "low motivation when he rolls scum" meta by lolposting all game.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #26) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:46 pm

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I'm trying to avoid the OMGUS trap but GIF's ISO really is shitty.

Possibly scum trying to plant false associations with me by parking but "scumhunting" elsewhere.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #27) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:46 pm

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In post 687, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 685, Muffin wrote:Such an obvious 'look I'm so town' gambit

Why aren't you voting me then.

Because I only have one vote. Aren't you paying attention?
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Post Post #691 (isolation #28) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:47 pm

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Anyways I guess my potentially-scum pool is

nacho
katsuki
sakura
gif
gaiden
notscience
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Post Post #693 (isolation #29) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:48 pm

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In post 690, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 688, Muffin wrote:I'm trying to avoid the OMGUS

woot

I like how you unvoted for really weak reasons.

These kids try to push a mislynch and get all hibbly-bibbly when I start obvtowning it. :mrgreen:
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Post Post #697 (isolation #30) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:54 pm

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In post 694, Sakura Hana wrote:Then lynch me, put me out of my misery already so i dont have to replace out of 2 games since i rather leave it at just 1.

Appeals to emotion now
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Post Post #698 (isolation #31) » Thu May 21, 2015 7:54 pm

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IS ONLY GAME COMRADE

DO NOT INTO UPSET
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Post Post #760 (isolation #32) » Fri May 22, 2015 7:40 am

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In post 725, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 723, Katsuki wrote:So it's not taunting scum anymore?

I was waiting for muffin to come around so i could taunt him some more, but he seems to have dissapeared into the aether again.
So i'm just gonna move my vote over there again
Unvote
Vote: muffin

Unvoting after getting called out is an interesting "taunt"....

I stopped replying because you got very upset.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #33) » Fri May 22, 2015 7:41 am

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In post 752, GuyInFreezer wrote:The ever living fuck is this

VOTE: muffin

Sakura consider going on vla if you get too hotheaded

You already had it parked there.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #34) » Fri May 22, 2015 7:44 am

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In post 734, farside22 wrote:
In post 688, Muffin wrote:I'm trying to avoid the OMGUS trap but GIF's ISO really is shitty.

Possibly scum trying to plant false associations with me by parking but "scumhunting" elsewhere.


Can you explain where you are seeing this?
Also since you didn't awnser I'm going to call you muff and the other one zzmuff

Look at his ISO: votes me "for srs" and then doesn't push me at all. Barely mentions me until other people are already attacking me aka the coast is clear and he can blend into the crowd.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #35) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:30 pm

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In post 779, Sakura Hana wrote:Also either way tomorrow im probably going to go after any of these 5:
In post 765, Natirasha wrote:Not Voting [5] - Natirasha, Kagami, zMuffinMan, SXTLHGaiden, notscience

Because there's literally no reason to not be voting on Day 1 when information is the most important thing that's necessary.

Pssst: one of those people you are thinking of attacking is the same guy you allegedly have a 110% accurate town read on.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #36) » Fri May 22, 2015 12:33 pm

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In post 795, farside22 wrote:
In post 792, lalaladucks wrote:I have a good feeling about lynching Nacho.

There is no good reason not to lynch someone today.

plainmuffin doesn't look like scum.



I agree with you about plainmuffin.
And
Let's have a fun moment if you don't mind.

Vote: gif


I can get on board this train.

VOTE: gif
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Post Post #974 (isolation #37) » Fri May 22, 2015 8:32 pm

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In post 947, lalaladucks wrote:FFS. I really hope you're trolling right now Sakura.

lol people still believe daykills these days?
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Post Post #976 (isolation #38) » Fri May 22, 2015 8:35 pm

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VOTE: notscience
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Post Post #990 (isolation #39) » Sat May 23, 2015 3:16 am

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Not really liking 983, that's mostly just a wall of IIoA.

Lala lala you did a nice summary but I don't see any reasoning that explains why those people are scum. Yes you summed up things that zmuffin said but you didn't explain why that's less likely to come from town and more likely to come from scum.
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Post Post #996 (isolation #40) » Sat May 23, 2015 3:22 am

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In post 573, farside22 wrote:Your better off not putting me in a voting block. I tend to get stubborn unless someone makes a really compelling case.

Right now I'm just thinking.


This is a town post
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Post Post #998 (isolation #41) » Sat May 23, 2015 3:23 am

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In post 993, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 990, Muffin wrote:Not really liking 983

Didn't you mean 986.

My bad.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #42) » Sat May 23, 2015 3:25 am

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In post 1000, lalaladucks wrote:
In post 990, Muffin wrote:Not really liking 983, that's mostly just a wall of IIoA.

Lala lala you did a nice summary but I don't see any reasoning that explains why those people are scum. Yes you summed up things that zmuffin said but you didn't explain why that's less likely to come from town and more likely to come from scum.

can't
just can't

Why not
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #43) » Sat May 23, 2015 12:06 pm

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Oversoul comes in with a big reads list and votes two stated town reads....
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #44) » Sat May 23, 2015 1:45 pm

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Needs more not science votes.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #45) » Sat May 23, 2015 1:56 pm

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wut
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #46) » Sat May 23, 2015 1:57 pm

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Hi tell tale heart

Pls vote notsci
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #47) » Sat May 23, 2015 8:47 pm

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In post 1286, notscience wrote:muffin I am still waiting for you to parse my wall

I am on the edge of my seat

desparate for your townread

Do something town and you might get my town read.
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #48) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:04 pm

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Way way way way too much bs about other games going on on this page and elsewhere.

Pedit: sakura why do you have such a boner for gaiden. I've never seen him not be useless, who cares if he is town.
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #49) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:07 pm

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Like your whole game seems to revolve around aggro on anyone who scumreafs gaiden and to a lesser extent zmuffin. Or maybe just aggro on lala in general.

What is the town motivation for that
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #50) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:35 pm

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In post 1405, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1402, Muffin wrote:I've never seen him not be useless, who cares if he is town.

I've seen him pull some shenanigans that I would never think about before, other than that, yeah i agree, he's usually fairly useless.
But even then, a town lynch would further the scum's wincon, it's better to let scum try and NK him instead, due to his usual lurkiness he's always going to be a wildcard for them.

Gaiden is the kind of player I love to see as town when I roll scum because you never want to end up with him in LYLO. Scum will just keep him alive if he is town. I would.

Better to policy lynch him sooner rather than later.
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #51) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:35 pm

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Not that I think he is town. But I'm saying if.
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #52) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:37 pm

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In post 1412, lalaladucks wrote:Muffin, your avi looks so mischievous! You must know who the scum are.

Best guess for scumteam?


I don't really like to call teams this early. I have like maybe 3 town reads.
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #53) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:39 pm

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In post 1406, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1403, Muffin wrote:Like your whole game seems to revolve around aggro on anyone who scumreafs gaiden and to a lesser extent zmuffin. Or maybe just aggro on lala in general.

What is the town motivation for that

It's called having scumreads and pushing for their lynch.
Or also, having townreads and defend them from being lynched.
Something i haven't seen you do.
Your town reads were never in danger of being lynxhed
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #54) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:40 pm

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In post 1429, lalaladucks wrote:oh you're no fun real muffin

>~<

Can I convince you to join me voting notsvi if you aren't already?
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #55) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:43 pm

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In post 1432, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1430, Muffin wrote:Your town reads were never in danger of being lynxhed

yeah because gaiden at 5 votes was totally not in danger of being lynched.
And zmuffinman at 4-5 votes wasn't in danger either!

That's right. L-4 is not in danger lol.

Pedit I could vote tth too tbh
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #56) » Sat May 23, 2015 9:43 pm

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In post 1434, lalaladucks wrote:Did you not just see me saying notty's wagon is ridiculous?

TTH's wagon is shinier and higher!

I'm on mobile atm
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #57) » Sun May 24, 2015 6:58 am

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I wish appeals to emotion were modkillable offenses.
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #58) » Sun May 24, 2015 9:52 am

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What is a bop strategy
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #59) » Sun May 24, 2015 7:23 pm

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Katsuki, Brian:

Can either of u articulate why farside is scum?

I can't see it.
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #60) » Mon May 25, 2015 4:17 am

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In post 1610, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1606, Muffin wrote:Katsuki, Brian:

Can either of u articulate why farside is scum?

I can't see it.

Because I haven't agreed with any of her pushes on account of me thinking that person was town at the time she's done it. I already mentioned there's a huge clash between our reads this game.

Why can't you both be town with drastically different reads?
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #61) » Mon May 25, 2015 4:18 am

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In post 1607, notscience wrote:That depends, can you articulate why I am scum?

You aren't scum hunting
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Post Post #1760 (isolation #62) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:18 pm

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Well I just read through some ISOs.

Gonna stick with this vote till the end of the day. Nati hasn't done any scum hunting and hasn't really done anything of value. Even if he's somehow town I see removing him as a plus.

VOTE: Natirasha
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #63) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:00 pm

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In post 386, zMuffinMan wrote:kinda hoping nati starts doing stuff this game instead of moping about

Coaching/nudging his scumfriend?
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #64) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:12 pm

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In post 945, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 944, lalaladucks wrote:Are you town though? Are you actually the Queen of Hearts? That sounds like a mafia role.
Why would you suicide if you're in a 'Very Happy' mood? Is this a joke?

I am actually the queen of hearts yes, i am also town, but a friend of mine wanted me dead, so i decided to comply.
Specially because i'm very happy right now, I want to take the chance to ammend anything, by any means necessary.

So uh...

My flavour/character's alignment in the original novel matches my own alignment.

Does anyone else's?

Because the Queen of Hearts is an antagonist in the novel/films/whatevers.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #65) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:15 pm

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In post 1131, Katsuki wrote:I think we've also established this game that muffinman has no heart nor soul, given his desire to ram ducklings into the ground.

In post 1132, Sakura Hana wrote:I also have desire to ram scum into the ground, yet you're not saying anything about me!

In post 1133, Katsuki wrote:I haven't read your posts, but I'll guess and take your word for it that you want to ram scum into the ground, as do I. Muffinman wants to ram ducklings into the ground then pray that they turn out scum ducklings. It's literally what he does to cupcakes too.

Sakura feels so forced here.
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #66) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:16 pm

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In post 1229, Sakura Hana wrote:I can get behind that
Unvote
Vote: Nati

Better place for my vote while i wait for notscience anyway, and a good place for it to be if his case doesnt convince me.

AFAICT this is literally the first time she mentions Nati all game.

And also she tried to call me scum for doing essentially the same thing to GIF earlier.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #67) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:18 pm

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In post 1236, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 1233, Oversoul wrote:Why do you need to be that sure on Nati of all people

because if there's anyone in this game (or anyone i ever play mafia with) that i can read with near 100% accuracy, it's nati (given enough time)

i used to have this with mastin - until serum&steel - and now i'm 100% accuracy minus one in reading mastin because i didn't let the read properly form

nati for me is like gaiden for sakura, except i probably have a much longer history with nati

In post 1234, Oversoul wrote:Do you have extensive history with her? I didn't think she played much anymore

I could see Nati scum being crushed to draw a scum role in a game like this

she's the only player (other than mollie for one game) i've actually hydra'd with multiple times (see: Rancid Broderick Drake) and i actually do have 100% accuracy in reading her across games we're in (or at least, i cannot recall a game i've misread her)

i could see her drawing scum and playing like this. this is the same concern i mentioned to nacho. but it's something i want to be sure of before i act on it


This sure seems like the foundation for a plan to mostly-ignore a scumfriend and then powerbus them on D4 or 5.
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #68) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:22 pm

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nati/zMM/????/ooba ?
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #69) » Fri May 29, 2015 5:08 pm

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Why mac?
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #70) » Sun May 31, 2015 5:44 am

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In post 1951, zMuffinMan wrote:i remember not liking the way she interacted with me regarding nati

Can you quote/link to the posts you're talking about here?
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Post Post #2041 (isolation #71) » Sun May 31, 2015 4:07 pm

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Post Post #2042 (isolation #72) » Sun May 31, 2015 4:09 pm

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In post 1965, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1963, Mac wrote:i think your sole focusing on notty and not on anyone or anything else is detrimental to the town and not really coming from a town mindset. you don't seem to be scumhunting, all you seem to be doing is trying your best to ensure notty ends up with rope around his neck. that doesn't feel like town!nacho to me, it's not the nacho I know and love

who ever it was who said *crosses fingers* when nati was hammered might be scum. checking back, it was oversoul. which doesn't surprise me. it felt fake as fuck, like "look how town I am hoping for a scum lynch!"

i'm focusing on notty as much as i am because i'm one of the only people scumreading him, i think that notty-scum plays worse when all the focus is put on him, and i think it's going to take a while to eat away at notscience townreads and so me constantly popping up and reminding everyone that hey, he's still scum and he's still not doing shit is going to be fairly important if i ever want to get him lynched. I also think that he, as town, has very town responses to pressure (and the more pressure, the townier the response).


This post makes me reconsider nachoscum.
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #73) » Sun May 31, 2015 5:07 pm

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Who's scum and why, NS?
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #74) » Sun May 31, 2015 6:36 pm

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Having read some things I now actually think a katsuki scumflip strongly indicates nacho town.
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #75) » Sun May 31, 2015 6:36 pm

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In post 2051, notscience wrote:Scum-
TTH

Why?
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #76) » Sun May 31, 2015 7:03 pm

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All I could find in your ISO other than you allegedly not believing Cho's obvious fakeclaim was #1241. Unfortunately a few of the points you make against Cho can be easily made against you (reaction gifs, etc.).

Your scumhunting was hella weak all day until you got a little pressure and then you threw up a giant wallpost with a single weak scumread.
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #77) » Sun May 31, 2015 7:21 pm

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Interesting that you only produce content when pressured
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:52 am

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In post 2112, Kagami wrote:Just realized that if sakura-slot were scum, then they knew bork's role through the organization of her neighborhood. It's hard to imagine they would prioritize him as a kill, especially with access to a vanilla-izer.

It seems much more likely if they believed he was potentially a D2 doublevoter, which implies sakura-town.


Where did all these neighbourhoods and their composition get outed? I must have missed it the first time.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:00 pm

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In post 2130, Oversoul wrote:The neighborhood has a power for each day.
Scum group with Sakura know two of the days, 3 with Gaiden's public role. 4 with TTH claim. Would know that Cephrir has to be Day 4. Why kill him that night then? Power activates day 4, not the best shot in that case.

Scum group without Sakura knows 3 max abilities in that neighborhood. Don't know if Sakura/Ceph are the day 2 power. Shoot thinking Ceph is day 2.

Makes sense I guess. But I think they killed Ceph because Bork was force replaced because he got info on who the mafia are or some inside setup info that tilted balance against scum. Plus he was already very town.

This is a town post, though I find the case for Sakura-town to be tenuous at best.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:09 pm

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In post 2151, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2148, notscience wrote:I am going to pick apart that wall becayse a lot of those reads dont make any sense and sound fake


His push on me is also bad as fuck and is reminiscent to Cho's push and subsequent mislynch of me in Paradise Lost. Cho literally pushed me for the same exact points Sala is.

So, a different player in a different game pushed you for similar reasons to a player in this game?

Wow. Compelling case.
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:58 pm

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In post 2176, Kagami wrote:It's a shame that muffin and Salamance don't agree, as that would make things a lot easier.
Me or zmuffinman?
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Post Post #2185 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:01 pm

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Arguing meta on D2 is pointless.

Katsuki, see my sig. If you know your own meta, then you can subvert it. Therefore the argument is invalid.
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:51 pm

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In post 2186, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2185, Muffin wrote:Arguing meta on D2 is pointless.

Katsuki, see my sig. If you know your own meta, then you can subvert it. Therefore the argument is invalid.


Ya but when those things she listed are things I only do as town and not as scum it somewhat invalidates it. I've only ever broke my scum meta once and that was for a special game.

No, the entire "this is my town meta, not my scum meta" argument is useless and needs to diaf.
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #84) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:46 pm

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K here's what I want to do: Lynch Gaiden.

Look at his ISO and tell me what parts are town. He's been coasting on Sakura power-buddying him and he just tried to pull the same thing in 2203. He fought against the Nati lynch and pushed for a Lala lynch (one of my weaker townreads, but a townread none the less) with zero evidence or justification.

We've already got 1 scum down, we can afford to mislynch in case I'm wrong. But you know what? I don't fucking care what alignment he is. He's so goddamn useless that it is worth it for him to die before LYLO to deny scum the chance to leave him alive as lynchbait.

VOTE: Gaiden

Anybody not voting Gaiden needs to explain (and be specific about) why he's an asset to town.
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Post Post #2222 (isolation #85) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:00 pm

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Not with that attitude.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #86) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:01 pm

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You aren't voting Gaiden and you're not explaining why he's town, or even worth not killing.
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #87) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:13 pm

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VOTE: Salamence
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #88) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:21 pm

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Why should I care?
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #89) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:22 pm

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I'd happily hammer like half this fucking game.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #90) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:23 pm

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In post 2228, Salamence20 wrote:Why is kats town muffin?

Because everything you say about Gaiden I can say for kats


I don't think Kats is town either.

But you're still dodging the question of why Gaiden isn't scum.
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #91) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:25 pm

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In post 2219, Muffin wrote:Anybody not voting Gaiden needs to explain (and be specific about) why he's an asset to town.

Cmon Salamence. Answer this and I'll unvote.
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:29 pm

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I'll hold you to that.

VOTE: katsuki
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:29 pm

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In post 2236, Brian Skies wrote:Oh look, another doublevoter. How interesting.

I'm town as fuck bro.
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:30 pm

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In post 2229, FakeGod wrote:
TellTaleHeart
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Oversoul
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grapes
, Muffin(x2)


I didn't really like my company on this wagon, that's a lot of suspicious players on there.

Tags fixed. -mod
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:31 pm

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...wat
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #96) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:28 pm

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In post 2249, Oversoul wrote:
In post 2239, Muffin wrote:
In post 2229, FakeGod wrote:
TellTaleHeart
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I didn't really like my company on this wagon, that's a lot of suspicious players on there.

Tags fixed. -mod


Why did you join the wagon in the first place?

It should be obvious if you read the thread.
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #97) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:39 am

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Someone hammer
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #98) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:10 am

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Scum driven wagon? Am I scum now kats?

Is far side? Is kagami?
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #99) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:21 am

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In post 2295, Oversoul wrote:If you read the thread you would see why he said that.

I can out-snark and out-passive-aggressive anyone, so if you want to play this game with me then we can do that.

I've yet to see Katsuki do anything town. If he's upset about his impending lynch, that's a problem with his playstyle and communication skills that he can choose to address, or not.

If by some chance we're living in the bizarro world and Kats is actually town, I still won't care. Kats is scummy as fuck and needs lynched.
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #100) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:23 am

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Moreover I can't find any attempts on Katsuki's part to convince people why his scumreads are actually scum. He just goes "lol ur bad if u don't agree with me". Like I give a fuck if he can't even express why someone is scum.
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #101) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:29 am

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In post 2289, Oversoul wrote:
PSA: If you have a scum read on me, strong or otherwise, please explain why.


This is a scum post.
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Post Post #2304 (isolation #102) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:02 am

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In post 2301, Oversoul wrote:
In post 2300, Muffin wrote:
In post 2289, Oversoul wrote:
PSA: If you have a scum read on me, strong or otherwise, please explain why.


This is a scum post.


This is a scum post.


I think it's adorable that you're trying to paint me as scum.
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Post Post #2319 (isolation #103) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:53 am

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In post 2315, Katsuki wrote:Well time to claim Nightingale.

Obviously I'm not claiming my role ability.

I doubt this very much for role related reasons. Probably scum hoping for a counterclaim.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #104) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:57 am

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In post 2322, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2319, Muffin wrote:
In post 2315, Katsuki wrote:Well time to claim Nightingale.

Obviously I'm not claiming my role ability.

I doubt this very much for role related reasons. Probably scum hoping for a counterclaim.

If you actually have information, claim it.

I am in a neighborhood thread titled "birds" and katsuki is not a member of my PT.
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #105) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:41 pm

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Katsuki what is your full role name, flavor wise?
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Post Post #2367 (isolation #106) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:51 pm

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Does vanillaize resolve before night kill?
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Post Post #2376 (isolation #107) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:57 pm

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It still makes no sense that Nightingale is not in the birds PT but... Okay.

Not everyone from the birds PT has weighed in yet. Might still see a cc
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #108) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:34 pm

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In post 2385, Oversoul wrote:
In post 2376, Muffin wrote:It still makes no sense that Nightingale is not in the birds PT but... Okay.

Not everyone from the birds PT has weighed in yet. Might still see a cc


Are you a bird?

Yep
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #109) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:05 pm

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Wat
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Post Post #2429 (isolation #110) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:53 pm

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K I'm considering hammering with mah doublevoet but I need a sanity check:

I am hesitant because Cho claimed D5 5xVoter, unprompted, before anyone else had claimed multivoter. Given the flips, my working theory is a bunch of town multivoters and scum don't have any multivoters. Based on that I don't see how Cho could have clued in to the whole "multivoter for a day" shenanigans.

Someone halp.
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #111) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:07 pm

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Did either of the previous games have Day-X Xvoters?
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Post Post #2434 (isolation #112) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:10 pm

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I'm not seeing scum. Salamence, sell me on it a little bit.
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #113) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:49 pm

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Still waiting for possible counterclaims.

I dislike that you started allcaps raging after someone told you that town-katsuki tends to do that.
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Post Post #2453 (isolation #114) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:08 pm

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In post 2446, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2429, Muffin wrote:K I'm considering hammering with mah doublevoet but I need a sanity check:

I am hesitant because Cho claimed D5 5xVoter, unprompted, before anyone else had claimed multivoter. Given the flips, my working theory is a bunch of town multivoters and scum don't have any multivoters. Based on that I don't see how Cho could have clued in to the whole "multivoter for a day" shenanigans.

Someone halp.


OH HEY THE CLAIMED D3 DOUBLEVOTER DECIDED TO FUCK AROUND AND FAKECLAIM A VARIATION OF THEIR ROLE I GUESS THIS MUST BE INDICATIVE OF SCUM RITE?!??!????????

THIS FUCKING LOGIC

NO WONDER YOU NEED HELP


I'm using it as indicative of town, not scum, you dense motherfucker.
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Post Post #2461 (isolation #115) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:39 pm

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In post 2458, Kagami wrote:Meh, if someone wants to vote one way or another, I'm pretty much ok either way. I'd prefer the lynch to happen tonight for schedule reasons.


Why aren't you voting?
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #116) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:40 pm

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I'll be back before deadline, gotta read some shit.

Right now I'm actually not feeling TTH as scum.

pedit- vote whoever kagami
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Post Post #2471 (isolation #117) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:05 pm

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In post 2464, Salamence20 wrote:With 14 hours, the time for thinking is very very slight

In post 2463, Muffin wrote:I'll be back before deadline
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #118) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:50 pm

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Well I was wrong about kagami
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Post Post #2497 (isolation #119) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:18 pm

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In post 2490, zMuffinMan wrote:if anyone actually thinks TTH is town, say why

I do. I outlined my reasons just before the lynch
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #120) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:19 pm

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wur
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #121) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:19 pm

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wut
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #122) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:58 am

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In post 2504, zMuffinMan wrote:who do you think is scum on the sala wagon, fake-muffin?

Grapes and/or oversoul
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #123) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:01 am

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Also VOTE: grapes
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Post Post #2553 (isolation #124) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:26 pm

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In post 2529, Nachomamma8 wrote:And not just me, but word on the street is Kagami also endorsed this wagon

Yeah this is true
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #125) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:28 pm

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In post 2529, Nachomamma8 wrote:And not just me, but word on the street is Kagami also endorsed this wagon

In post 2530, notscience wrote:
In post 2207, grapes wrote:. The thing about notscience watering down my read is him discrediting like his whole wagon yesterday.


When a wagon on me is bullshit, I'm not just gonig to sit by and let myself get mislynched.

So, cool story.

Spout more bullshit.
In post 2219, Muffin wrote:K here's what I want to do: Lynch Gaiden.

Look at his ISO and tell me what parts are town. He's been coasting on Sakura power-buddying him and he just tried to pull the same thing in 2203. He fought against the Nati lynch and pushed for a Lala lynch (one of my weaker townreads, but a townread none the less) with zero evidence or justification.

We've already got 1 scum down, we can afford to mislynch in case I'm wrong. But you know what? I don't fucking care what alignment he is. He's so goddamn useless that it is worth it for him to die before LYLO to deny scum the chance to leave him alive as lynchbait.

VOTE: Gaiden

Anybody not voting Gaiden needs to explain (and be specific about) why he's an asset to town.


I'm not PLing on day 2.

He's confirmed town unless Sakura slot is scum and even then it's still a tossup.
In post 2336, Brian Skies wrote:Where did MelancholyMath go?


Post-orlando meet was in Raleigh and I was spending the week with scummers playing games and doing shit.

Site was ironically both the first and last thing on my mind.
In post 2440, Katsuki wrote:The scum were more underpowered in Alice II than Alice I.

At this point I'm just going to throw my hands in the air and say welp you all fucking suck if you can't see how Sala STILL WANTED THE FUCKING IC DEAD AFTER THE CLAIM AND WAS LITERALLY RAGING BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT MEANT HE WAS GETTING LYNCHED

LASDJFLKADSJFKLJSAOITHJEWOADSFJSADKLFJK,. LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK


I was liking the muffincat

then he did the thing that the muffin who isnt annoying was like "well if you were town id expct you to do x" and now im like "well this seems like an organic line of action!"

:(
In post 2474, Mac wrote:
Vote: Sala


not the nightingale, and sala seems the best shout for scum here.


I do not like this vote
In post 2509, lalaladucks wrote:
actually


vote: notscience


bored, ns?

what if... hmmm

okay, I'm working on a hood theory that might indicate TTH isn't scumsies

just want to see a few things happens first


Yeah, I get bored of people pushing me without any legitimate reasoning.

And if said legitimate reasoning is going to be "where was he yesterday" I am going to purge him.

It's just that simple.
In post 2520, Nachomamma8 wrote:So I think I don't really want to lynch outside of grapes/Gaiden/Mac/Brian. TTH, what do you think of that?


We aren't lynching Gaiden or Brian.

VOTE: grapes


This catch up post is really underwhelming.
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #126) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 2570, notscience wrote:
In post 2558, Mac wrote:
In post 2532, notscience wrote:Other wagons I am interested in include:
Katsuki
TTH
The non-non annoying muffin

But the biggest thing for me right now is that I definitely don't want to lynch Gaiden.

For obvious reasons don't want to lynch myself.

Not feeling a brian lynch.


why are you interested lynching the un cc'd nightingale?


Because he retracted it?

He retracted claiming IC not Nightingale
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #127) » Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:13 am

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Oh are we outvuessing the mod now?
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #128) » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:01 am

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Thanks for reminding me that you're still in this game, Gaiden. Now that we've established there's probably a doublevoter scum, the only support for you being town has evaporated.

VOTE: gaiden
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #129) » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:53 am

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Still waiting for you to do anything town.
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Post Post #2622 (isolation #130) » Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:29 pm

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In post 2621, notscience wrote:@Fars

I still don't like TTH slot but Im being stubborn because I thought cho was scum and I think (?) im okay at reading cho so I kinda dont just wnat to roll over on that but for some reason no wagon seems to ever start and idk

I have a pocket read I don't care to share

I think one of the doublevoters is scum.

I want to lynch muffin but I cant tel if its because he has a grating personality or I think hes scum. I particularly dont like his gaidne/me stances

You're just salty and OMGUSing me because I was unkind to Sakura and/or am not townreading you.

Take an objectivity pill; I'm obvtown.
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Post Post #2645 (isolation #131) » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 2642, SXTLHGaiden wrote:i was reading and found the line funny

Who's scum?
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #132) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:14 am

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More gaiden votes please.

Look at his I so and realize he isn't trying to scumhunt, just lurk til endgame
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #133) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:49 am

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In post 2653, SXTLHGaiden wrote:
In post 2652, Muffin wrote:More gaiden votes please.

Look at his I so and realize he isn't trying to scumhunt, just lurk til endgame

I believe you have accurately described my meta.


Why do you even sign up to play then?
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Post Post #2658 (isolation #134) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:10 am

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I attempted to report Gaiden for failure to play to win, which is site-wide rule #7.

The moderator has stated that lurking+not scumhunting is not the same as not playing to win.

The only way this is possibly true is if Gaiden does not have a town role PM.
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Post Post #2659 (isolation #135) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:10 am

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Let's go.

Lynch this scumbag.
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #136) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:25 am

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So you think he's town?
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Post Post #3338 (isolation #137) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:58 pm

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Gaiden enabled a scum win just like I predicted way back on like D2
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