We The Purple II Game Over

[MarioManiac4]

I'm fine with hydrating myself atm :p:

UNVOTE: TWIE UNVOTE:

Because that's what I do to do what I do.

[MarioManiac4]

Sorry

UNVOTE:

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OK. I'm reading the game, but I now have a townread on Sonic for the scumhunting post.

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The problem is, scumreading for no reason makes it very likely for you to be scumreading town.

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I think I'll keep the mod mistake.

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Just to confirm:

VOTE: Rune

And I am also quite confident. Brilliant, eh?

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You know what, this convo is amusing. So: I'm brilliantly brilliant at brilliantly finding brilliantly obvious scum.

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I just noticed something. I'm pretty sure, judging by the intro, this game is multiball. In 302, Ricastle asks, "Why is that? You rolled a tridra?"

Maybe this could mean he is part of the pink?

[MarioManiac4]

Titus answer my question about what happens when I flip and you're wrong.

Has anyone looked axes iso and is still willing to say he is town?

Yup, I'm willing to say he's likely town.

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There are an awful lot of nullposts in this game, so I'm mainly noting things that could lead to scum. I said he could be scum simply because he only talked about one of the (seemingly two) scum factions in the game.

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For all their talk about advancing the gamestate, Seiko has made very little effort to do so themselves. Most of their time has been spent arguing with Sonic about holding up the game which in turn was...holding up the game...subsequently, the only scumhunting they've actually done so far is a weak and forgettable push on Oversoul. They also quickly abandoned the conversation with me about the game in general. This all leads me to believe that their crowing about the gamestate is just a ploy to look useful. I also hated their responses to Sonic's initial push on them, looking back. It reads very much like "these are the wrong reasons to catch me".

Will definately check this now.

[MarioManiac4]

It does indeed seem like Seiko is on the defence a bit more than you'd expect for someone that keeps on saying the game should move forward.

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I'm stuck between Rune and Seiko at the moment, with TWIE a close third (scum-hunt dodging and lack of posts nowadays.)
Will make my decision soon.

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That it's scum relation. In an all-vanilla D1 what other answer pertaining to relation is there?

I don't think it's that easy?

Rune: Scumreads Axe + HH
Axe: Scumreads Rune + HH
HH: Scumreads Axe but not Rune

It's a very peculiar triangle. Who's scum and who's town? Why? Why would they act in such a manner?

Do you think that they are all scumbuddies? That wouldn't make any sense, would it?

These are all questions that you must ask yourself before answering my main question. It's not that simple. I don't think.

I think it's a case of two people being really stubborn about how well they know the other person, and one other person caught in the mix. I don't think it's that unusual to have a trifecta of scumreads like this, and the fact that you're making it seem like more than that without commenting on it yourself is ~smeh~.

What

are

your thoughts on this?

His read is baseless and really bad. My somewhat trolling start is his reason for me being a one-dimensional obvious scum or playing to lose. This is obviously a hilariously poor reason to scumread someone who isn't a complete noob (which he knows I am not - I refer again to the last game together where he points out that I am the best player he knows).

@Sonic you are wrong - once again not having read the game - I mentioned that I thought it was odd no one thought I was bussing Axe.

Summary of Axe:

Spoiler:

Rune was wrong about everything.

this post of yours is actually retarded.

He's really easy to read.

I don't want Frat BROs to be hydrated.

Because you're scum and they're town... We get it.

Just to meta rune, his town play is usually... Well, his town play is constantly screaming town. I don't have that vibe this game, usually he's more positive and constructive even early in the game. He doesn't have many forum games, so it's hard to tell 100% how valid that information is, but it's definitely worth noting that if we're not lynching him, he's probably the worst hydration target.

I'll read you like a book.

To add on that, your play is more one-dimensional than you probably care to realize.

It seems you've also taken inspiration for your play style from there as "how to easily confirm myself as town".

I'm either scum reading you or really not liking you as town this game, I haven't quite decided, but I'm assuming that will come clear very quickly.

VOTE: Rune

Yes, if you play to be lynched, we can't tell if you're scum or not, it doesn't prove much of a point though.

Basically he assumes that because my start is not super constructive that I am scum, and that my play is one dimensional - referring to the exactly one forum game I have that he knows about. That I am somewhat trolling only because some town idiots did it in that game. That if his read is wrong it is because I'm trying to lose.

His "personal knowledge" of me and my play, or at least his attempted expression of it here, just reeks of scum looking to get rid of someone who caught him and who he wants to dismiss without committing himself. This is again coming from someone who has completed 2 forum games, both of which he was town and fake claimed resulting in a town lynch and ultimately town losing.

I am not playing to be lynched. I am playing to win. Axe is going to flip scum. You're all welcome.

A case! Yay! That's what was really needed for me concerning Rune.
UNVOTE:

And I will vote another scumread of mine.
This was the Sonic wagon as of Votecount 1.12:
Sonic boom: Angry frat BROS, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi, Ricastle

Wouldn't be surprised if scum was on that wagon at all. Thinking seiko and random, maybe Oversoul or Ricastle.

VOTE: Seiko

Now, we should talk. Who do we hydrate? Sorry, but I'm just not going for p2 here. It looks like the conseseus is on Rune and Ricastle at the moment. I'm alright with hydrating either, but the hydration votes are all over the place, with

6

wagons as of now. We need to narrow it down more.

[MarioManiac4]

Why not?

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OK, so I need to explain something right now. I have three categories of reads; town, possible scum and scum. The thing is, town gets reserved for strong town reads, while possible scum eats up all the weak ones. And I honestly aren't keen on repeating things others have said again and again, because that leads to us having 5 wagons 31 pages into D1. Oh, wait...

Now, I have a townread on Sonic Boom. He's been extremely anytical and has posted long and detailed posts, which is what I think experienced/good players do as town. So I don't really understand why he is being voted. Recently, it's not noticing my "VCA." Sonic again has noticed what my intentions were; a good amount of these people seem to just be trying to find a reason to vote for him. Sonic answers one question to ease suspicion, and they squeeze his posts to find one reason why he should be scumread. I DO think that there could be scum voting him.

Now I think all posts regarding questions about my play should be like this, because it lets me defend myself properly and find the scum better, and it will be. My new reolution is to not post two-line posts anymore, I want to contribute to finding scum more than I have been. So, yeah, you can ask me questions and expect answers now.

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I am surprised no votes are on Random and TWIE. I do agree they may not be as threatening as some scum could be, but I am most confident in those two reads than my others (seiko and ricastle.) I argue that the fact they're less threatening is not worth the possibility of a mislynch. TWIE seems to be trying at least more than Random, who has simply been votehopping with zero input.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Randomidget

[MarioManiac4]

NAA, I doubt anyone would be as, frankly, ineffective as I XD
I will wait to see who the best choice for hydration is soon.

Unhydrate

for now.

[MarioManiac4]

Not necceserially, I think Randomidget is more likely.

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If the replacement's from 1606 I'll be so happy!

[MarioManiac4]

Welp, NAA replacing out has struck me as odd, but I think that it mightn't be that indacative to his alignment. Angry Fat BROs, when we get to the final 9 I promise I will be able to solidly read everyone by 9 player discussion. I'm not used to Large games yet.

All Random has done is prod-dodge an vote-hop. I still think he is the best choice.

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P2 and I replaced in... TWIE has been here since the start.

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Yeah, TWIE has a reason at least to be somewhat pissed off, unlike random, who has posted 4 times to just votehop...

[MarioManiac4]

The one with the most votes wins!

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Asking pretty please while voting town?

I might care if he is still being useless through Tomorrow. In the meantime, there are likely like 5 other Mafiosos you could convince me to vote.

I am SO putting this in my sig! Also, I am pushing the lynch for randomidget, who simply votehops and promises content. Will we get any? Not likely! He has 5 posts. There are

47

pages of content and he's only written five posts. That alone should tell you something!

PEdit: No, majority is when 50%+1 votes are reached on one player.

[MarioManiac4]

LOL, I didn't know if us purple were town or scum either!

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"us purple" as in "the purple" not neccesserialy including you?

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I may as well make that L-3 promise too!

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No, it's a Ps3 fanboy

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Well, Rune tunnelled your predeccesor. Like, too much. But he's being replaced right now. I remember BROs saying there were six mafiosi when there was no way of knowing.

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In my opinion, Randomidget should go today.

[MarioManiac4]

How is it? You clearly are handing ceph responsibility of my read, and you wualify your points aimed at a player not even here now with a 'but'.

All I'm getting from your hydra is a personal issue with me, which seems to have created ore emotive reaction than if you genuinely believed I was scum and you were responding from a town position... And the only head not hiding from direct conversation with me has referred my read to the head that is....

Simply reads like a hydra the no hoped they could steamroll a player for a mislynch, one of you knows me and therefore knows I ain't low hanging fruit, refusing to engage with me over some excuse about a past game from over a year ago which allows you to ignore me now, and then when one of you does engage with me it's not a unanimous hydra call anyway...

Well you had better make it unanimous, cos based on the interaction I have managed to squeeze out of your team I'm happy with a scum read.

I do agree with this tbh. It's hard to fish reads out of the whole Sonic vs Bacon and Egg situation going on, but this is a good catch.

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I want opinions from Randomidget.

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Dude, town don't want to be lynched as well, because they want to lynch SCUM. Therefore, defensiveness is neither a town or scum trait and your scumread reason is invalid

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"I'm usually town, so I am town." doesn't ring my townbells really.

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"there are 5 more scum in the game." How would you know?

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That's true

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I think Ricastle could be scum, because he refutes EVERYTHING with the fact it's multiball, even when it's an inappropriate answer.

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Random, I have done enough to nail scum. FEB is right about he aura it gives off, and the logic you use is unimpressive. I know town you is better than this, random.

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Well, seeing as Ricastle is my secondary lynch, I could do a lot worse than be on his wagon, especially if the Random one won't take off.
VOTE: Ricastle

[MarioManiac4]

Look at the intro, multiball is pretty obvious- tridra and pink.

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Well, it looks like more people are replacing out. We could just, like, end D1 here, because most things are just getting repeated, but I'm not sure it's the best idea.

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There has been no nullpost in twelve whole minutes! What is up with this game?

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Pretty sure 1223 isn't an appropriate answer.

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I'm reading these arguements null.

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Bert, why would you hydrate me if you thought I was newbtown? Surely you wuldn't be confident to place trust in me to hydrate town?

[MarioManiac4]

On Ricastle:

Ricastle pushes TWIE for not being engaged in a game in which he has been consistently ridiculed and even insulted. Makes sense, right?

He calls midget low-hanging fruit, but surely it would be best to go where the scum is most likely to be?

In 1222, he said that it was multiball to disprove an arguement. However, it’s unlikely that all these scum reads, if they are scum, are on the same team.

He again says he’s the best person to hydrate. He sounds desperate.

He tunnels Rune while voting Seiko.

He makes a big deal out of his case, which just says Seiko wasn’t scumhunting much so far. Sure, she wasn’t advancing the gamestate all that much, but later you said scumhunting is easy to fake. Why would Seiko not take advantage of this?

Actually, though, in a game this big it isn’t that much evidence, plus he does make good points in 1480/ But he will never ever ever ever ever be hydrated, I’m not having that!


Now, let’s have a look at Bacon and Egg. Wait, no, too much spamposting, GET ME OUT OF HERE!
In all seriousness, here I go.

His first case on me was something he’d seen in another game. Yes, it could happen, but it isn’t a reason for a scumread. Town would notice that and it would help. Heck, even the Pink could say that! It doesn’t peg me as a tridra and is a house built upon sand. No, sand is too kind. It’s built upon bull.

Your reads were clear, it doesn’t make you town, especially when the reads weren’t the most… detailed.

He slacks off SB’s cases when his own are… debateable.

He just… keeps on saying… ricastle is scum…

He is “full of shit” apparently, because he scumread Seiko. I agree he hasn’t been the most trustworthy person here, but there is so much more you simply just overlook.

Not everyone thought Seiko was scum, or we would be in Day 2. You’re basically throwing insults around now.Why did Ricastle want to be elected so much? Any townie would hsve been sufficent, yet he put his vote on a possible townie just for hydration.

He tries to change the topic to favourclaiming and build on that, yet it only helps find the tridra faction. He then calls Rune caught scum.

He makes the argument that troll=scum, and pushes Rune for it.



“I don’t do cases.” THEN STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S WHILE OVERLOOKING THE FACT IT’S BETTER THAN NOTHING PLEASE.

Most of your posting has been attaching yourself to Seiko and attacking Ricastle. As it seems there truly are 6 scum, who are the other 4 (seeing as you have breifly stated random needs to die)


Yes, we get it, Seiko is town. Talk about someone else.

Also, friendly conversation doesn’t need to be buddying. Mafia does not have to be a game of insults. People may slip up more while relaxed and not realise it, leaving them shocked later when it’s pointed out.

Yeah, he talks about tunneling. No more needs to be said.

Other than that he asks the right questions, and after rereading the towncase on Seiko is good.

But now, to everyone, have you even read the wiki? The goddamn wiki said to mafia “compromise lynches are your friend!” They are almost always a bad idea.

And because it took so long to try and brave this game’s few hundred pages, it took a while for me to post. I felt like I should at least try and ask a few questions in the meantime, but apparently not.

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Bacon and Egg, the post was between you and Ricastle. I probably should have made the formatting a bit clearer.
Other responses coming soon.

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Most of your posting has been attaching yourself to Seiko and attacking Ricastle. As it seems there truly are 6 scum, who are the other 4 (seeing as you have breifly stated random needs to die)

Try again, not only have I given reads on everyone at least 3 times now, I have even called what I believe are the exact scumteams twice now.

assuming that was to me, but it probably was

My thoughts were as-you-go. Ever since your arguement with Ricastle you've appeared quite townie.

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I don't remember saying that? Also, I unvoted Ricastle, so that's a thing. Seeing as RM basically has the support of a Alfa Romeo's internal system, I may hammer soon for info.

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Oh ye, so no need to hammer

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Mine is "Can we please just end the game day pls?"

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Noooooooooooooooooooo

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If D1 ends with a 3 digit page number, I'm replacing out.

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Anyone who posts after NOW to not vote Ri should be policy lynched

Seriously, just DON'T.

[MarioManiac4]

i think i have p2 as troll

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i agrey, mawiomaniak wisdummb tahwayitends and seekoh need too dy imo

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Ricastle

RANDOM DOUBLEVOTER

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Ricastle

TRIPLEVOTER HAMMAH

also

hydrate: seiko

[MarioManiac4]

How about awarding Ricastle a bad trolling scummie?

[MarioManiac4]

I am going to try to read today
but as of now

hydrate singersigner

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Wait, there's a wagon on Bacon and Egg.
Reviewing him, I don't think scum would have the utter confidence Bacon and Egg had while lynching Ricastle. Sure, he was wrong, but as was said early in the game, being wrong does not equal scum.

I am not lynching Bacon and Egg today. Not going there.

I need to have a look at the other 2 lynches proposed for today.