WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Mastin
Let's do this

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I think you guys misspelled your username.

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You literally never read me right Mastin.

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Also! I'm going to giggle every single time someone quotes me, FYI. Half the reason I chose this name.

It should have been Edgar Allen Bro

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Also is it possible that town in this game can make sure we don't have lurker issues because I feel like the recent run of town losing has a lot to do with lurking being considered acceptable for scum or lazy ass town. If we can do some WoTC and vote to force replace those bastards out that would make for an excellent game.

As long as everyone agrees not to poop nonsense in the thread too.
I'm more acceptable of lurkers than of thread poopers.

Although... Titus isn't scum in this game so, there shouldn't be too much thread poop.

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Lol @ VTs essentially becoming innocent children in this setup.

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No you don't Elusive.
Preferably we would have a happy medium. But if I had to choose.

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And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

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ZZZX/Drixx should email/private message any moderator to activate the account, just by the by.

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And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

Blue Blur

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Why did you feel the need to answer for Sonic after just clarifying my question is more directed at Sonic?

[Oversoul]

The above was at the Sally post

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And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

Blue Blur

Do you think we

cant

give the town the help they need?

You? Yes.
Drixx? I dunno. Never played with him.

[Oversoul]

Link me games

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That was all sanic, not me.

What was this even in context to? Was this not answering the quoted part?

[Oversoul]

Why would you say I was answering sonic when the question in general was made for me?

I thought that was an admission that you guys were trolling with the notes on who was posting when like some hydras do.

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@Mastin
Since there are guaranteed to only be 5 VTs. Plus, I think I can go through those claims.

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I think BB probably town

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Ladies night tonight
So I'll be out of commission

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@Mastin
Since there are guaranteed to only be 5 VTs. Plus, I think I can go through those claims.

This is inaccurate. Town Anything can also be a Vanilla Townie.

Lame.

[Oversoul]

I think BB probably town

Can you explain this one for me? Well more, could you think out loud about it?

I understand a temptation to townread them although I'm a bit neutral so far. Sally's post to you actually made me feel a little gross, but IIRC he nitpicked narratives in the game that shall not be named as well.

Hm. Odd that we have a different take away from the same post. I thought his quote by quote was pretty town. I don't see scum Sala going through that effort when he could be snarky and short with me.

[Oversoul]

On first glance I don't disagree with it, Mastin.

Maybe Persivul? Why is he so low?

VOTE: Triforce

I think Prolapsed might be town?

[Oversoul]

I'd need to see more from Atum but he's got a clear town to scum meta. His RQS was also maybe in part an inside thing? I used to, on anotehr site, always do RQS that were fluff like "What's your fave color" or "If you could be an animal, which would you be?"

I'd put Klingon lower and Bulbazoar higher.

I think I've played at least once with most people on the list as this or the alt except for Maxwell, Riku, Triforce, Gumball, Muffin and the Goat.

So here's elusive's RQS, answer them if you're town and like to be cooperative. Don't answer them if you're one of those special snowflake types that have mush instead of a spine.

DEAR TOWN 1. Who have you played with before on from the player list? 2. Choose one player and describe their town vs. scum meta. 3. Link to your most recent finished town game and scum game (can be offsite but preferable on MS) 4. What is your fave scum hunting tool? 5. Pick a color for your soul. 6. Which player do you want to ask a question of? Ask them that question. Thank you my lovely dear darlings, <3

Oh and scum don't bother answering, I see through scum answers for what they are.

1. I've played with these players: Klingoncelt, Prolapsed Brain, The Blue Blur, Drizzx, mastin2, Banana Frog, Quoth The Pidgeon, PeregrineV, The Goat, Muffin
2. Uhh, I don't think I can do that with anyone here? I used to be good at reading Peregrine, but that was 1-2 years ago. I've lost my touch now.
3. Town. Scum.
4. Interaction based.
5. Uhh... Khaki?
6.

Triforce

, I feel that you are playing scummy. Do I need to give an explicit reason with every vote?

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I think that quoth and mastin is also t v t. Elusive may as well be scum but she has posted a nice batch of questions that might help us with other meta from players to read more into them.

Why do you think Quoth and Mastin are town? Why do you think they are even against one another?
What about Elusive is scummy yet outweighed by her questions?

Sala why do you always tunnel me?

This sounds pretty town.

From having meta dived Salamence, he has a clear town vs. scum as well and right now he's leaning heavy on the scum side.

What is the clear difference that you see?

Gratuitous, I was mistaken about the VT count.
If the setup was guaranteed to only have 5, that would mean scum are forced to fakeclaim a PR at a later point in the game and then we would have 5 autoconfirmed town people.

328 makes me feel good about QTP.

Where am I...

Town: Mastin2, Drizzt, Plotinus, Muffin, Peregrine.....feel pretty good about these. Maxwell and Trirforce are fringe townreads. MAybe Gumball too.

Who would lynch Gratuitous?

<this guy would.

TTH, we should talk! We can combine forces and fuse into mega staraptor or something.

Why Peregrine?

I think Persivul is town. His frustration with the game seems legitimate.

[Oversoul]

More people should join the Triforce wagon.

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Hi, Max.
Have we played together before?

[Oversoul]

More people should join the Triforce wagon.

Counterpoint: how about KlingonCelt, Gratuitous, or Bulbasaur?

Klingon: I could be persuaded, but I can't really read her effectively.
Gratuitous: Probably not. Thinking he is town.
Bulbasaur: I was thinking of moving there, but I think I'm onto something with Triforce.

Also, why Triforce wagon?

He looks like newb-scum that is trying not to ruffle feathers and still contribute. He was unusually focused on my vote on him for whatever reason.

[Oversoul]

Can we talk about how Gratuitous is scum?

I would. Why do you think he is scum?
You still feel Blue Blur is scum?

[Oversoul]

Outside of that I'm looking at:
Peregrine, who's beginning I was not a fan of at all, and hasn't done much to rectify that.

Prolapsed: Who hasn't posted much at all in the way of content

Bulbazoor: Who's recent play makes me content not to move my previously RVS vote off of him

Look at these noncontroversial reads.

Its like ... who can I call scummy to appear to be scumhunting but without actually doing anything?

Lets see, elusive already paved the way for calling PV scummy, check.

Prolapse is a super boring lurker, check.

Bulb is already taking heat and barely fighting back, check!

Normally I would agree with you, but he is suspecting me. I think his reasoning for suspecting me is townie. Do you disagree?
You also think Bulbazor is scum, though?

[Oversoul]

Stuff to elusive/Grib is in the quote, stuff for Oversoul is below.

I explained my vote recently.

[Oversoul]

Or if you were actually reading, I've been critical of Peregrine since #130, but hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your story-telling

I think its pretty clear that I've been reading the thread, lol.

The truth is that your reads are all extremely non-controversial and post 130 is even more of that.....nothing controversial. First you just disagree with his approach. Then you say that PV looks unjustified without actually commenting on his alignment or delving into his post at all. To sum that gem up, we get a sudden change of traction from "Pv might be weird maybe" to "Personally, I'm just...." which kind of waves away the previous part of the post. Ya no.

If I weren't a hydra, I'd be voting this right now.

If you really paying attention, you would see that the second part of #130 was a subtle response to Atum's avatar question, the same question the Peregrine overreacted about that caused me to develop my read on him.

I wouldn't quite call Peregrine's reaction an overreaction. Why do you think it is?

[Oversoul]

Stuff to elusive/Grib is in the quote, stuff for Oversoul is below.

I explained my vote recently.

I wasn't asking you to explain it. I was, however, asking for an ideal scumteam of yours based on the list of players you know in the game.

Going by the skill I see within the playerlist, the ideal team would probably be The Blue Blur, mastin2, Banana Frog, Quoth the Pidgeon, Klingon/PeregrineV/TheGoat with Drizzx as the SK.

What is the point of this question exactly?

[Oversoul]

I think that was Mastin saying she was upset she drew town, not scum.

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Prolapsed Brain is an alt Mastin.

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Mastin I think you get more nominations if you didn't arrogance/talk so much >_>

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Singer!!

At least it is just an SK and large Mafia this time. Should be better than two different teams.

[Oversoul]

Yes, I'm upset I'm not scum, but I'm also upset that nothing seems to be jiving for me. And literally nothing I can think of doing is helping me get any closer to being out of that rut. If I'm wrong I'd be thrilled, that I could do good. But it's terribly disappointing if I'm right, especially since I really don't feel any power to stop it.

Was that jiving more systemic, or specifically this game?

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I can confirm that Klingon, as town, in Space Dandy (VARSOON!! ) brought up real life stuff for her absence. It would also be humane not to poke Klingon on that front specifically because a lot of serious stuff happened to her in the last few months.

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We find ourselves with an interesting utility role with a downside. If someone would be so kind as to role block or jail us tonight, that would be ridiculously helpful as it will stop us from doing something compulsively that we would otherwise prefer to do at a time of our choosing and to someone we are quite sure is scum.

~Drixx (obviously).

If this is a Scum ploy, it's pretty clever. I mean, I could see a Mafia Goon asking for help from a Town PR, then a Mafia Watcher sees who comes to the rescue. Brilliant way to set up a NK or two...

'K, Klingon can die now.

Vote: Klingoncelt

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Gonna be a hard sell to convince me that post is why Klingon is scum.
That would be a brilliant ploy by the mafia.

[Oversoul]

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to say I wasn't going to try. I just wanted it to be known that I'm not even going to try to setup spec and acknowledge that this might make me prone to being manipulated but I think I'm a good enough player to recognize when that's happening.

I guess SK multiball wouldn't be as bad as We are the Purple was. >_>

It's ok. At least you don't have to deal with Titus scum for a third time. *pats back*

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VOTE: Klingon

That wagon seems to have a good composition.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: oversoul

Gonna be a hard sell to convince me that post is why Klingon is scum.
That would be a brilliant ploy by the mafia.

This implies you find klingon's post to be a townpost.

Then you vote klingon not because you are scumreading her, but because "the wagon has good composition"? And in preference to TriforceP who you said you were scumreading?

Yes.

You said getting you to vote Klingon would be a hard sell, but one vote + explanation later and now you like the wagon.

PEDIT: Muffin was faster than me.

Yes.

[Oversoul]

Feel better, elusive.

[Oversoul]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: oversoul

Gonna be a hard sell to convince me that post is why Klingon is scum.
That would be a brilliant ploy by the mafia.

This implies you find klingon's post to be a townpost.

Then you vote klingon not because you are scumreading her, but because "the wagon has good composition"? And in preference to TriforceP who you said you were scumreading?

Yes.

You said getting you to vote Klingon would be a hard sell, but one vote + explanation later and now you like the wagon.

PEDIT: Muffin was faster than me.

Yes.

You have a more in depth reasoning than that?

Yes.

[Oversoul]

Such as?

While I don't necessarily see the super scumminess in Klingon, I do find AP+Mastin to be pretty good scumhunters. That is why I said "I like the composition of the wagon". I thought I might as well lend them my vote for the time being as Triforce was not getting any traction and I was beginning to develop doubts about my read on Triforce given his response to my vote.

So, yes. I did think Klingon is town for the post that Banana Frog/Muffin pointed out. I still do.
I do think that wagons are good for the health of the game. I do think that helping my stronger town reads accomplish their objectives is also good.

[Oversoul]

Also, I'm glad people want to ride Matsin's belief on Kling because Matsin is OP or some shit.

I'm not impressed

Even if you disagree, creating a large wagon is still helpful for overall game progression.

[Oversoul]

I don't know about Kling yet, but that Oversoul vote is suspicious af and the lack of explanation besides "yes XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" is really aggravating.

Next time they shouldn't ask leading questions that can obviously be answered with yes.

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I don't have much of a read on Oversoul, but him popping up as a counterwagon to Klingon makes me feel good about him.

Wagons aside, how do you feel about his actions? Do you think that his reasoning for voting for Kling is solid (or, as solid as a day 1 vote can be)?

Your analysis of votes is binary.

[Oversoul]

Post 602 says to me that you think votes can only be good for town or bad for town and does not take into account intent/circumstance.

[Oversoul]

Binary was definitely not the right word to use. I don't even know why I used it. Shallow is more appropriate. Your analysis appears shallow.

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I honestly do not remember, Elusive. I think so? That rings a bell.

pedit: she means SK

[Oversoul]

This game, I expected Titus to know me well enough to know that I take warnings as threats and do not respond well to that. Obviously, I need to stay the fuck away from Titus too.

Titus is the mod? What are you referring to here?

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Well, sort-of sitewide problem, but not really. It's mostly a this-game problem. Basically, however much not-jiving I may have in other games--past and present--this game has been a hundred times worse.

Other games I got out. This game, I think I could get out, but too early to say.

Where is that Dark Knight Rises poster when you need it...

Mastin, what do you think of Peregrine?

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Pere, who are your scum reads?

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Elusive, have you ever played with Prolapsed Brain?

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Banana Frog can you give me a concise reason why you think Pere is scum?

[Oversoul]

Had the worst day ever and I'm running on no sleep. I'll get to this Sunday
I'll answer your question then Singer

[Oversoul]

Random question
Why did you replace in, Singer?

[Oversoul]

Singer, have you supported policy lynches in other games? If so, links plz

[Oversoul]

I'm sure there's more if I went further back in my history, but the last quote from a newbie game over a year ago should explain my thoughts on PLs pretty sufficiently.

Were you hoping to catch me lying or doing something out of character? Because I can't make these things up, lol.

No, it just isn't a trait I visualize when I think about your play.

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Drixx, why do you feel the need to ask that? We aren't headed towards a lynch that quickly

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I can't tell if Bulb is scum or massively shortsighted/newb. Does anyone have any experience with him?

Also, I know I'm only on page 16+recent posts, but right now I'd be ok with an Atum, Firebringer, TBB, or mastin lynch.

Any lurkers would also be acceptable: Grib, Gratuitous, ZZZX, PV, PB...all have under 25 posts. q_q

Why Mastin?

[Oversoul]

btw atum's recent posts are obvscum

VOTE: atum

Had you forgotten you were already voting Atum at the time of this post?

[Oversoul]

Finally have a significant amount of time tonight

[Oversoul]

l

That's my playstyle dude

What questions do you think I should have pestered her more on?

[Oversoul]

I honestly don't even understand the pissing contest between Elusive/Klingon, but it makes me not want to read the game.

[Oversoul]

Oversoul obvtown

explain please?

Oversoul hates playing scum. If he's posting at a rate that does not resemble a dead penguin, he's town.

As sad as this comparison is to my play, it is true. *nods head*

having unique thoughts is a town thing to do. that indicates that he is thinking about the game

unfortunately sally does not agree with this theory

Why not?

I see literally no downside to policy lynching elusive at this point, especially if it means players like PB would stay in the game instead.

Not to add fuel to the fire, but I disagree with this.

You're saying we should get rid of mean, active players so that not mean, less active players can play.
In a different game, PB would be under the spotlight of a policy lynch for his play.
This is quite *popcorn*

I think page 37 is more cancerous than uranium water.

OMG YES.

AP/Oversoul, I specifically want to know how you feel about my comparison to Wisdom with elusive, and how both of their actions were scum motivated. Do you agree? If not, why?

Now that I am more familiar with what you are talking about, I still don't necessarily see it.

Wisdom and MS had an agenda to shit on the game. I could definitely see the agenda when they posted. Then again, I knew about that ahead of time. That was just how they both played as scum in recent games (TM and Pokemon).
When I look at Elusive's posts, I don't really see an agenda? I was so wrong about Titus in Signs and Void that I am willing to follow you on this. Although I am waiting for the other hat to drop in my games with you... It is only a matter of time before you're scum in a game with me Singer. I don't want it to happen. :c

Singer, talk to me about Banana Frog

But you are still scum.

Wait, seriously?

Yes. Perse was scummy. What was the need of a site flake?

Are you even listening to yourself right now?

First of all "site flake" is the very definition of null and not alignment indicative so how you're trying to read anything from that is beyond me.

Second of all...well I don't care was perse did but did you even read anything that just transpired over the last few pages? Because I feel like you didn't.

This sounds like me and Tammy when we are town and people do not see that. Especially after we feel that we have done enough town things to be a universal town read.

But, I don't know if Singer up to this point did enough town things to warrant such an action? In totality, I think this post is more likely to come from town Singer given her rapid response.

I just noticed there is a p in Triforces avatar.

Singer might be the SK but we can X that bridge later.

Interesting leap there
Why?

i caught up


singer, policy vigging is wrong.

Honestly, policy vigging is better than policy lynching. Like a lot better.

is that a crime?


anyway males rage and females rage differently. its the truth.

...

how

?

Yeah we were both doing the same thing. "Town for now scroll scroll scroll". And that's saying quite a lot because I'm hyperlexic, which means I'm the sort of person who can't help reading every word of the "rules for riding the bus" on the public transport because there are words in front of my eyes so of course I'm reading them. Anyway, maybe the replacement will be easier to sort!

Hmm... interesting.

What?! Bulba has been doing plenty of scumhunting...

He's still a strong town read of mine


Singer slot could be "scum" as in "SK scum". I do see it.

??

you and QTP said this. How so?

riku Flubbernugget
Persivul singersigner
Grib
The Goat
TriforceP
Gratuitous

I am sure scum is in these after doing a quick reread. My list was deleted so I had to start over...

Explain please

1078 - Singer, I suppose the better question is.. have you ever supported a policy lynch as scum?

We also came to an agreement that PV is loltown.

Lol

~Still sally

Really?
Why?

I think the Blastoise player is probably town.

[Oversoul]

Mod, did Mastin and The Goat replace out?

[Oversoul]

I don't know. I only have like four scum games in my site history (most recent was a newbie in December...before that was the 2012 scummies invitational >_>). I imagine I would, though, since it would be consistent with what I do as town.

Wow...

you're damn lucky.

[Oversoul]

I am 100% sure Oversoul is town and 98% sure that PV is town,

explain PV plz

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Peregrine

I think this is the righteous wagon of glory.

I am sorry, PV. I think you drew scum.

[Oversoul]

Singer shut up and vote Grat/Kling.

You can read me as scum tomorrow.

~Sally

Gonna need a large incentive to vote Grat. He looks pretty townie to me. Why do you think he is scum?

[Oversoul]

That's not being helpful, BB.

[Oversoul]

Klingon, what is with the rapid changing of votes? You changed it three times on page 52.

[Oversoul]

All the votes on Gratuitous have amounted to... Nothing.
Does no one else feel uncomfortable about this lynch going through?

[Oversoul]

I understand your reasoning, Soul, but
1) While I'm not feeling confident in the Blurs as town, they have a good point. This day is getting quiet, and we still have a while to go.
2) Grat hasn't contributed as much as other people, and I'd rather lynch a lurker than someone who could be helpful later.

There are multiple lurkers, yet their names were not raised.

[Oversoul]

If Pere is scum, BB is like 100% scum. Might even be scum if Pere is town but I'm not sure.

[Oversoul]

Still no explanation why Singer makes sense as SK scum. Really odd that people are calling that out specifically at this stage of the game.

[Oversoul]

i'm sorry for being helpful

I have to snip most of this post because it's all laced with salt

i won't say it ever again

im sorry for having a helpful hydra partner too who is intending to move the game forward

maybe my partner should be more useless like the rest of you jokers

That's really rude.

not really that rude

[Oversoul]

I am now caught up for the day. Greetings, Firebringer. Thanks for replacing in.
VOTE: Firebringer

Also, something about Plotinus's tone is seeming...off. Like...aggressive rather than laid back? That's the best word I have to describe it. The catch-ups themselves felt not the best but I can't describe why, and this is rather bothering me now. The town Plot I know is fairly objective and analytical; the Plot I'm seeing this game is undeniably feeling aggressive and to my understanding, that's how Plot operates as scum.

/41.

I agree. Although I can't really read Plotinus. I didn't like her catchups either. They looked forced in the same way that a scum who feels the compulsive need to do them would make a catchup.

For a while I was tossing around a Pere/Banana Frog scum team in my mind. I'm still not entirely convinced I am wrong about that duo.

[Oversoul]

Flash wagons are seldom the right thing to do, Metal Sonic.
Maybe this is why you have a low town winrate compared to your scum winrate? :O

[Oversoul]

Not sonic. I did it.

~Sally

when i was newer in the game i was feeding. i didnt roll scum until like being on the site for 1.5 years. so i started from a better record.


also, you went to my wiki. leave a love message please <3

What? I don't remember going to your wiki.

also, thanks for the burn oversoul.

i have a thick skin.

ilu bby <3

Just trying to keep that ego in check. <3

[Oversoul]

where have i shown an ego in this thread?


then how do you know that i have a low town winrate w/o looking at my wiki? zzz

I think I remember reading it in your Team Mafia Scum Chat for your nightless game

[Oversoul]

I really don't think Kling is scum, but I am willing to vote her just to end this day so I can focus my attention somewhere.

[Oversoul]

I really don't think Kling is scum, but I am willing to vote her just to end this day so I can focus my attention somewhere.

Antitown move.

It is antitown in a vacuum, but this game is stagnating and it is a large so we can soak up an early mislynch.
If you have a power role on the other hand... that is when it gets bad.

[Oversoul]

Klingon's recent voting pattern is highly opportunistic.

I am now okay with her death.

VOTE: Klingon

[Oversoul]

My vote is better-served here:

VOTE: Klingoncelt

This type of behavior is why we lynched you in that Mini Normal, dood.

You trying to look scummy?

[Oversoul]

Mastin hey girl hey

You like town more than scum right?

[Oversoul]

Blue Blur, precedence says the AP lynch was a fluke, not a likely scenario. Why are you pushing so much for this?

[Oversoul]

Blue Blur, precedence says the AP lynch was a fluke, not a likely scenario. Why are you pushing so much for this?

Trust me when I say you dont want this answer.

(Hint, meta gut, feelings that Grats last posts are town, etc).

How do you feel about this wagon dismantling? Will you vote Grat?

~Sally

I will note vote Grat. I think he is town.
I don't have an opinion on Grib. Couldn't even tell you what a single one of his posts has said. I think he has a general nonpresence in the game. But, I think those types of players should be reserved for vigilantes to shoot.

I think Klingon's repeated vote hopping is more indicative of scum tendencies than Grib being a lurker.

[Oversoul]

Titus, I am not sure if you are aware, but Peregrine has routine Weekend V/LAs

[Oversoul]

I hate Hermit's entrance into the game. Some buddy shoot it tonight.

[Oversoul]

It's scummy to do that. You should probably stop. It's just a lynch in a game. Not like we are taking your first born child.

[Oversoul]

I was prodded.

[Oversoul]

I think Singer is probably town
Banana Frog thinking I am scum is lol.

[Oversoul]

But yeah, when Honeybee flips town, I'll be over with my shades on sipping on a mojito.

[Oversoul]

I have literally no idea. Probably Blue Blur if I had a vig shot. Kinda mad that Drizzx didn't shoot someone. That role is too OP to not just shoot people. :shrug:

[Oversoul]

I wish Drizzx did not out their "negative" utility role.

[Oversoul]

I'm so confused. If Singer is also the compulsive vig thing, where did her shot go?

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Firebringer

The vote hops alone justify a purging of this slot. Singer! With me!

[Oversoul]

You're playing like you did in Space Dandy.
Sorry you drew scum again.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Firebringer

The Firebringer wagon did, does, and shall forever continue to, suck. It is a blatant counterwagon to Honey Bee.

That slot is very likely town. Maybe our power roles should do their job and cull the herd. Just a thought.

Fire bringer, do you disagree with my assessment that you're playing like you did in Space Dandy?

[Oversoul]

Why is everyone claiming

[Oversoul]

When Honeybee flips town I want all of your town cards

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Firebringer

The Firebringer wagon did, does, and shall forever continue to, suck. It is a blatant counterwagon to Honey Bee.

That slot is very likely town. Maybe our power roles should do their job and cull the herd. Just a thought.

Fire bringer, do you disagree with my assessment that you're playing like you did in Space Dandy?

Overall I don't play my scum games that much differently than my non scum games at least I think.
Though I think I am easier to figure out as scum. Like I look either way too confident with my behavior or I am way too timid with my votes and reads.
That is my take on my own playstyle though, I am heavily biased so w/e.

I often probably a little bit less active than usual as scum too, though I don't know if anyone ever picks up on that. Its not by much so I don't know if its noticeable.

Hmm...

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I'm not the judge. I did contemplate fake claimimg it for the lulz though. Channel my inner Kuribo+Katsuki

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I could jive with that
Farside are you scum? Answer carefully!

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I have literally no idea who to think is scum anymore. Was so wrong about Grat.

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Singer is town
You guys can stop with the rage votes against her

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VOTE: Oversoul
Whee!

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Not scum. Just don't have the time or desire to play mafia unfortunately. The JKs should stop blocking the same people so the game can actually have a chance of progressing at a normal pace before the apathy sets in

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But yeah I probably would have cared if I wasnt a Vt but drawing Vt sapped any remaining motivation to play ^_^

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You do that!

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Ronit has an unconventional playstyle that's going to be hard to read. The reaction test is null for me. But the wagon seems to be built around Bulbazoor's posting which I'm townreading. I posted my reasons here. I went over his ISO again with Grat's flip in mind. During D1, he was in the pro-Klingon/anti-Grat camp. He scumreads Grat and Grib, strongly argues against Klingon's lynch even with Grat in the lynchpool. It doesn't look like bussing because he doesn't have much to gain by defending Klingon and going after Grat, and he's not the one who'd receive towncred because several others expressed suspicion of Grat. He also treats Grat just like any other lurker with no special treatment. The one reservation I had is his accusing Grat of hopping on his (Bulba's) wagon and then a short time later being concerned about the Grat wagon. But I find that reasonable as one of his scumreads (Banana Frog) had jumped on the wagon and it's reasonable to re-evaluate when that happens. His post to Banana Frog here also doesn't give him much to go on if Grat flips scum since he phrased it like he thought Banana Frog was jumping on a mislynch, not bussing which would have been what scum would post. He votes Grat and later Grib both of which he had as scumreads. Ronit voters need to explain why they are voting there.

Oversoul is the clear choice for me. Adding to my initial concerns on him, the self-vote was ridiculously scummy and reads as a "whee, look at me not bothered by my wagon" move. As scum, when he's run up, he has to do

something

and instead of posting content decides to try a lazy WIFOM move because he just can't be bothered to tryhard when it seems like he's going to be eventually lynched anyways. His excuse of not having the time or desire to play mafia is rubbish. In a recently completed game as town, he replaced in Aug 17th, and made ~100 posts in a 9 day period ending with his lynch on Aug 26th. Most of it was heavily involved and in-depth content with "controversial" opinions. As a disclaimer, he self-voted there too but that was a hammer and the mindset was entirely different. In this game he made ~100 posts over a 45 day period (Aug 1st to Sep 15th), and a lot of his posts involved below-the-radar sheeping of various players and no real effort to figure the game out. His defense of Grat/Honeybee is odd and while people may argue if scum would actually do that (they'd do it for WIFOM), I don't see any reason why

town

could have such a strong townread on Grat/Honeybee and the read seems to have been done to both defend a partner and if that fails, to create WIFOM.

VOTE: Oversoul

1. Trying to compare this game to that game is pointless. Vastly different game states.
2. Me getting lynched in that game is probably what depleted my desire to play mafia completely!
3. Huzzah!

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Why are we policy lynching oversoul?

There are better policies?

Path of least resistance. I'm literally self voting. Although LOL at the fact that my vote has now moved to being the second vote on myself. I guess all the others jumped off fearing impending obvtown, but I just don't give a fuck

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What are Ronit's sins

I'm not sure how I feel about the wishy washy nature people are taking with my lynch. Also not liking how people are only considering me/ronit. We cannot be the only people others want to lynch, can we?

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I actually think Plot is scum here.
She made an offhand comment about my scum game that I did not like considering she has played with me as town before.

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Well, not as town, but not as scum.

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Hm. I could hammer Ronit, but I don't think that would be productive

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Hm. I could hammer Ronit, but I don't think that would be productive

Good to know you two are scum buddies

Sure. I think we are both town though.
If the JK/Vig people want to stop making this game more unbearable than it actually is, I volunteer as tribute to be shot tonight.

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Was there a guilty on Constatine? His lynch seems forced.