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VOTE: Oil Tycoons
Hi guys.
This is a game with a fuckton of hydra, so we all need to be considerate of our postcounts. Please please please try to keep them under control, if someone's posting gets over the top out of control they need to be purged.
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VOTE: Konowa
I don't really understand the empty threat at me from Wall of Fire either, but I'm not particularly scared of them either, sooooooooooooo.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 40, Konowa wrote:Probably something to do with my horrible attempt at disarming mastin by calling the post hilarious.
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Yes.
(It is serious. That being said, his response to Luna is making me doubt it.)In post 46, Oil Tycoons wrote:This from a guy named fluff central? (notscience? pls tell me this isn't you)
I would, but I was told if I lie I get my mouth washed out with soap.In post 56, Oil Tycoons wrote:NOTSCIENCE RISE AND SPEAK TO THE RESURRECTED OIL TYCOON
I WAS PLAYING POKEMON DO YOU MIND
I have arisen.In post 62, Wall of Fire wrote:VOTE: LynxKuroneko
If I said this vote was serious, would you believe me?
That is such a mastin vote.
Howdy.
In post 79, Oil Tycoons wrote:In post 31, Fluff Central wrote:This is a game with a fuckton of hydra, so we all need to be considerate of our postcounts. Please please please try to keep them under control, if someone's posting gets over the top out of control they need to be purged
Notscience:
1) Good luck getting us lynched because I'm sure as fuck not going to artificially deflate my post when it's fun to post and I'm in the greatest hydra on both side of the Mississippi.
2) If you're serious about changing the spam meta, the important things to cut down on are more objective than postcount. I've never understood why it is difficult to scroll past a string of 5 posts of someone having fun. In my opinion, it's the protracted arguments where people say the same thing over and over again instead of looking and comprehending another player's argument that provide damage to game state and the way you change that is by playing with extra care and consideration, not by threatening to policy lynch people who don't play the way you want them to.
-Grandpa Oil
I can claim you said lamp and get you lynched. It's really not that hard.
However, I can agree with the second point. But spamposting the same thing is what bugs me most, so.In post 80, Luna Fox wrote:I think Oil Tycoons is town.
The jury's still out on this one.In post 88, Kuroko Network wrote:Part of me thinks I should start drinking just for this game. Unfortunately, the rest of me thinks that isn't such a good idea :<
Kamikagami maybe town.
Because you never see scum claim role info this early in the game, right?In post 109, Medea the Alien wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble, but setup-breaking (or at least gnawing on it for a while) is a very null tell for this head.
Notable examples include Fire Emblem marriage mechanic as town; paradox prime as town; this past theme (sorta) as scum; the OTHER fire emblem game as scum; and mini 1531 which gave everyone in it PTSD including the other head of this hydra; as scum.
Yes.
Yes it is.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Because she just hydra'd with me where I claimed role information in my first post of the game totally off the cuff?hydra of bins & notscience-
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If I was truly confident in my read, I would be pushing it.
My vote was on OT as RVS, and I know they aren't going to do anything in retaliation to the wagon on them. I didn't like your post, so voted you. I haven't moved it because I'm undecided on where I want it.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 195, Oil Tycoons wrote:In post 193, Fluff Central wrote:Hey Bert, where's your mind at so far?
Do you have any opinions so far or are you just going to ask a bunch of people what they think about nothing and then do nothing with the information you've gained?
Vote: Fluff Central
I'm also voting you because you didn't call me town.
I do have opinions. None that I care to voice currently, for reasons you should probably understand, because it should be obvious knowing me who I would prioritize getting out of the way in reads this game. The reason I asked about the lynx wagon is I was wary of a lyncher. On further reflection, I realized that mastin and ceph wouldn't need to commit something like that, so the way they are adamantly pushing the wagon sits wrong with me, and I wanted to see if you agreed.
I think you know as well as I do that I'm not going to commit a read on you this early in the game.hydra of bins & notscience-
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It could be how I just got burned by my highest priority to sort, so while they are still my highest priority I'm not committing anything until I've had a chance to think it all through. Next would be Mala, who hasn't actually posted. Then you, then Bert, then Cabd/PA, then Tammy, then mastina.
I don't think we've settled in anywhere near enough to actually be comfortable with a stance on anyone.
If you want me to go into why I haven't committed reads on the above-
pie- .
Mala- hasn't posted.
You- I won't be sharing any time soon.
Bert- I was trying to talk to then got voted
Cabd/pa- All he's done is setup spec, I want to see where his reads fall.
Tammy- I don't really have an excuse for this one.
mastina- I'm not really confident in my ability to read her, plus she hasn't actually posted yet.
I think a lot of the early game has revolved around mechanics and what to share and what not to share and it's not making it easy for me to actually sort anyone.
A big part of it is that I think, and I didn't use forethought, that wagoning you to get out of RVS isn't going to help gain a real bearing on you as you wouldn't flip under pressure, I wouldn't be surprised if you anticipated an early wagon based on the members of the game.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 216, Luna Fox wrote:I don't see why one has to prod you for this kind of info instead of you just outing your thoughts.
It's clearly because I am scum who has no idea what to do when I get a scum pm in a game full of people close to each other, rather than manipulate my past to snow them.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 225, notscience wrote:What an inventive reason to vote me.
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Hi Bert! I think for the most part it shouldn't be too rough, I think we'll probably end up sorting out which (if any) of us drew scum between all of us.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Tammy, you were grilling OT pretty hard and then took the opportunity to vote me without actually pressing me for anything.
Why?hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 237, Oil Tycoons wrote:That doesn't mean that you can't express stances.
No, I suppose it doesn't.In post 237, Oil Tycoons wrote:A very tiny chunk was Cabd and Kagami doing their setup thing together. Another, sizable chunk, was me making a push on Tammy and then retracting it later; what did you think of that? What do you think of the way she reacted? What do you think of how I'm approaching you? What do you think of our expressed towntell on Konowa?
I think you know that I am wary of you regardless of how you approach me. For the most part in that game that just finished, you just outright ignored me. At times, you tried to coax stuff out of me similar to how you are doing now (Hint: you also did this in Capcom). That being said, I think Syry looked reminiscent of popcorn.
I think Tammy was liable to push back at you regardless of her alignment.In post 240, Oil Tycoons wrote:One reason that I don't like your Cephrir push which I didn't express before was how it was a shallow comparison to your push on Spicer in Disney uPick; you claimed concrete role information which is why the wagon exploded in a really stupid way. Cephrir didn't, nor is it in his style of scum play to do so (although this second point is much less significant than the first).
Do you understand why it would bother me? I understand we have vastly different playstyles.In post 243, Ika Zaru wrote:notty is confirmed not reading
I said Mala, not you.hydra of bins & notscience-
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My mistake, I totally forgot I can divine a read on a player saying when they will be able to post because that is completely relevant and not just you nitpicking.hydra of bins & notscience-
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I liked that it was more gloating 'You'll see that you're wrong" rather than "OH MY GOD HOW COULD YOU THINK I AM SCUM."
Happy?
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It bothers me because while yes, I outright claimed what my intentions were in that game here I have no idea why he is doing what he's doing and him expecting blind faith bugs me.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 270, Ika Zaru wrote:Well when you want to say she hasnt posted when she did, ues i will be a nitpicky asshole. you should realize by now that i don not take lightly to such things to my hydra partners unless they tell me otherwise.
Ask Mala if she thinks this is the fight you want to pick. You are literally getting pissy because I didn't count a "I will post later" as an actual game post.hydra of bins & notscience-
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If you have a genuine post restriction that says you have to comment on the game, boy I feel bad for you.
If you're just doing this for shits and giggles and because you have LITERALLY NOTHING BETTER TO DO. I suggest you stop because I scream.
--- sincerely,
Someone who has only skimmed the game.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 403, Luna Fox wrote:
How about some reads?
Do you agree with my vote on you and reasons?
Do you agree with kuruko's vote and reasons?
Uhm, I haven't really read in depth yet. I can do that now.
I obviously do not agree with you vote on me.
RESKIM TIME.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Every single time I open a new tab incognito logs me out. This is going to be annoying.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 410, Kuroko Network wrote:
Hello Bins. Welcome to the game.
Please leave your thoughts and reads on the following players:
[Tammy, Oil Tycoons, Wall of Fire, Zelink2, Luna Fox, Wisdom.]
Do ask any questions and I will do my best to answer them in a timely manner.
I would love to hear your input.
cool! I'm gonna probably do my best to give input on everyone that's posted but I'll pay extra attention to those players now.
This is so formal it makes me giggly.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Alright, I guess we're doing this the good ol' fashioned way. Because I'm too lazy to deal with this logging out thing, I'm just gonna type this all messy and ignore format and quoting. Hueahhh. And like update it while I read further. I don't care if this doesn't make sense to you, this is for me and teachers always told me to show my work.
Tammy - entry is null. I'm definitely not townreading Tammy at this point. HOWEVER, I do like the KN read/push/questions that are very well deserved.
Oil Tycoons (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Syryana) - entry is ehhHHHhh. Overall, I feel like I'm going to give a really shit read here but I think that theycanbe scum. That's what I have.
BRantz - I don't like his reads.
Medea the Alien (hydra of penguin_alien and Cabd) - Medea is null. Nothing has necessarily struck me as town or scum.
Ika Zaru (hydra of Ika and Malakittens) - overall meh.
Fluff Central (hydra of notscience and bins) - :3 secret: I skim Notty's posts.
Wall of Fire (hydra of Cephrir and Mastin2) - my initial first impression of their posting is town. I continue to have a null town read on them.
Wisdom - I feel like there's going to be a weird part of me that wants to meta Wisdom because I respect his scum game as a player BUT I like his reads so far and he hasn't pinged me and that's enough for me. I have to reread the stuff that just happened.
Konowa - entry is null. I feel like this read can sadly go either way (I HAVE TOO MANY OF THESE, GIVE ME INTERACTIONS)
Perpetual Nonsense (Hydra of Bert and SXTLHGaiden) - The Collective's entry was fine. I like them so far.
Kuroko Network (hydra of echo echo and pieguyn) - entry is null. Meh to the nod to the Oil Tycoon town read. The FC (hey, thats us!) vote was god awful. Wait, was that pie? I honestly can't tell. I'm not sure if I can distinguish bad reasons/fake reasons yet.
ZeL1nK2 - I'm not reading his posts out of spite until I get an answer to my question.
Kamigami (hydra of Kagami and FakeGod) - Kagami's entry is town but it's nothing to bet the game on.
Luna Fox - hahahHAHAEH AEH. I'm sorry. Lost my cool. Probably town. Meh, Oil Tycoon "town" read. But if Tammy is scum, then Luna is town. And ALSO, I sort of like the whole "I like this person for _____" and blah, but that pretty much solidifies in my mind that they are definitely an alt. I'm going to leave it at that though because I really, really don't care.
people who haven't posted/haven't posted enough for me to gage a read.
Klingoncelt
Aneninen - z 1 post.
LynxKuroneko - meh.
AJ the Epic
Muki- zz. one post.
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oh, it's so ugly!
Luckily the avatar is cute.
Okay going to take a few steps back.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 403, Luna Fox wrote:
How about some reads?
Do you agree with my vote on you and reasons?
Do you agree with kuruko's vote and reasons?
Sooo...
2) No. I don't think people need to wear their reads on the palm of their hand. Honestly, I find it sort of odd that you're literally calling out your opinion of everyone. It makes me think that you're town, but it's more out of place than someone having to be asked for reads before giving them. I mean, singling out Notty for that is wrong, many other players in this game are guilty of it. And it's null. Scum can make readlists early and town can keep their mouth shut. Play style, maaaan. Especially in this playerlist, I don't think it's out of place at all.
I feel weird answering this question.
3) Definitely not. And it's 100x scummier than your vote. It looks like he's trying to grasp on to justifications.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 429, Oil Tycoons wrote:All you have to say about my slot is that my entrance is meh and I could be scum?
Bins? Don't do this to me.
Sorry,
I really don't know how to approach a read on you and notty isn't being helpful at all.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Because I can't really be like "just pretend they aren't someone you've played with before", because that isn't 100% true. There's this weird influence in my head (actually, that little voice might be notty pestering me on Facebook) that I need to actually interact with you to get a read. Because I keep telling myself "yeah, that post is towny but I mean they could still be scum."hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 434, Bins wrote:wanna know a secret tho?
notty thinks you're town. i actually don't know if that's a secret because i haven't been reading his posts.
oh god I've made to many posts NOTTY IS GOING TO POLICY LYNCH ME.
pedit - actually don't kill me but none of your posts have really pinged me. Though, yes, I do have doubts. Paranoia, actually. Who am I taking to? I'm pretty paranoid of Nacho. Usually there's one player in a game that I have really, really unnerving paranoia about. In this playerlist it was going to be either mastin/ceph, wisdom, or Nacho.
idk why I double posted SOS
dammit why isn't our hydra acc mafBlackhydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 472, Tammy wrote:Notty - A couple things. You asked me last night when I voted you why I voted you without pushing you even though I had been grilling OT. You didn’t answer my question where I was grilling OT. Also did you really not realize why I voted you? I think it was obviously a joke vote since you claimed scum and I thanked you for the scum claim. Your response on that is weird. Also, do you really have a town read on Nacho? You? This early???
1) I'm not sure what I was thinking of, I'll go look back. I didn't mean like "purge him with the fire of 1000 holy suns" but it seemed like you were rather dedicated to it and the switch off of sizing him up to me bothered me.
2) I understand it was a joke. My hangup is that, and I will go back and try to get quotes for you with what actually made me feel that way, you seemed to back off from sizing him up to a weak joke vote on me.
3) I moreso had a townread on Syry. And I wasn't exactly going to come out and say it in-thread >_>.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 472, Tammy wrote:Bins - Do you typically do reads lists on the entire player list within the first 24 hours of a large?
I wouldn't call that a readslist. It was my lazy catch-up post — I said that. I normally pick out quotes but because incognito was signing me out lazily just writing beside the players name was a lot easier for me to keep track of my thoughts. Mafia was being down and weird and stuff too so it was just my lazy easy way out, haha.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 503, Luna Fox wrote:In post 500, Fluff Central wrote:In post 472, Tammy wrote:Bins - Do you typically do reads lists on the entire player list within the first 24 hours of a large?
I wouldn't call that a readslist. It was my lazy catch-up post — I said that. I normally pick out quotes but because incognito was signing me out lazily just writing beside the players name was a lot easier for me to keep track of my thoughts. Mafia was being down and weird and stuff too so it was just my lazy easy way out, haha.
Why didn't you just say that it was because i asked you?
Because I would be lying. I would have done it anyways.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 374, ZeL1nK2 wrote:This post feels in similar vein to Aj the Epic's post (and I feel I fairly conclusively proved that there was at least an 85% chance that Aj the Epic is scum - and if I didn't prove that, just assume I did). It feels like it's trying to be conscientious and constructive, but I don't feel it's with good intentions so much as self-promotion - trying to come across as a good bloke doing good things in good ways... but we all know it's the nice guys who turn out to be vicious axe murderers. It happens all the time on TV. It must be true.
Or, it's someone who is sick of seeing gigantic circlejerk games that make it absurdly easy for scum to control/hide in by hyperposting/lurking. Ask anyone else if that's a weird post for me to make.In post 374, ZeL1nK2 wrote:This post feels like it's coming from a bad guy. A bad guy who is putting on bravado. I am having a difficult time reading genuinosity coming from Fluff Central thus far.
That's rather unfortunate.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Just the overall opening.
It's a really weak comparison as it's based off horrendously outdated meta, but the way he came into the game felt like how they were in popcorn where they were confirmed town day 1- no fucks given and they owned it. That's what I liked.hydra of bins & notscience-
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The fact that ZeL isn't even addressing recent posts either makes it confirmed a PR or confirmed he's just fucking with us.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Spoiler:
@Tammy- The above post kinda. I realize in retrospect I had a really warped view of what's going on, but you'll likely take this with a grain of salt but whatever.In post 703, Oil Tycoons wrote:Why is a lyncher in a upick basically impossible?
Ach-advancedwars-oooooooooooooooooo.
Also, is it weird that the competing wagons are second on each other's wagons?
Because it gives me hyperbus feels.hydra of bins & notscience-
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What do you think the odds are pie comes in here and starts flipping out on me?hydra of bins & notscience-
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SPEAKING OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE
MALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUhydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 775, Idiocy wrote:Bins is part of the fluffy account.
I find bins to be wishy washy scum. How is that not clear.
The fact that the exact opposite is true is sort of blah to me.
I mean, I thought you would know that...hydra of bins & notscience-
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Nacho, I'm not sure this actually means anything but pie has scumread/tried to lynch me the last two times she was scum vs me.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Also, there's currently a hood with all members of a certain symbol.
The hood does not tell us who is in it, only warns of potential eavesdroppers.
The reason I am bringing this forwardi s I remember cabd saying that scum could have superjuiced roles depending on our symbols, and this very much feels like a way for scum to find out said symbols, and I'm not sure the best way to approach this.
Something to note: It opened sometime during the day. It wasn't open in pregame and didn't open automatically on gamestart.hydra of bins & notscience-
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In post 893, Kamigami wrote:In post 890, Fluff Central wrote:Kagami I want you and fakegod both to weigh in on this, by the way.
I see what you said, but I'm not sure what aspect you want me to weigh in on. The cabd part?
Do you think what I am saying is a valid conclusion?
Alignment of the neighborizer? It reminds me distinctly of tales (which I guess means I need cabd and syry's thoughts too) but I'm not sure the best way for future neighborized people to handle it is- because odds are, posting in it outs what they are but if they don't then it gets confusing come massclaim.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Essentially, I want to figure out how to limit the amount of information scum can gain by this.hydra of bins & notscience-
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Bert, the mechanic behind this hood is very similar to the game-related hood mechanic in Tales 2, which is why I mentioned them. I wanted their opinions because iirc they both liked to work with setups.hydra of bins & notscience-
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The hood does not list the members. I can only tell who is in it based on who has posted, which based on how many people have posted (I'm not going to elaborate on this) a scumteam with cabd in it doesnt make sense.
And the title of the hood has the element in it, so if the eavesdropper didn't know, they're a moron.hydra of bins & notscience-
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So basically-
Hood is titled with the element and says there may be eavesdroppers
Hood does not list members
Bunch of people have posted
Scumteam likely doesn't have element related powers/if they do, they don't have strong setup/mechanic based members and are more geared towards dayplay.hydra of bins & notscience-
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It's been open for a while.
What I'm saying is, suppose cabd is on a scumteam with people in the hood, and knows he has powers that are better vs certain elements, or is even on a scumteam with said neighborizer. He would probably instruct his teammate to lie low in the hood and get info for them to use in the night actions.
That being said, claiming our element later without ever posting in the hood might get you shone on in negative light.hydra of bins & notscience-
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My running theory is that it's scum enabled, and scum in the hood were supposed to play silent and not slip they had access to the hood (very much like how in Touhou upick 2, scum could see mine+pie's mason PT, but we had no idea sans me speccing it.) This is very upfront about the fact we don't fully know who is in it, and it was everyone's option whether to post or not.
I'm not sure its so much of an eavesdropper role as scum were intended to not post in it and just try to gauge town's reaction.hydra of bins & notscience-
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