Tarot uPick II - GAME OVER

[Bacde]

vote aninem

This guy can't read for shit, is a liability, needs to be lynched, literally the last 68 pages are unimportant

[Bacde]

Its D1 and I like prohawk

I'm not lynching him, whether or not he is scum, unless you can pretty much guarantee a scumflip, and I'll have to review the evidence

on the other hand, lynching aninem is guaranteed to help the town right now, and later in the game it might not be as helpful if he is just bad town

We should follow me imo

[Bacde]

Oh hey its you Tammy, you are probably going to respect my reads this game huh?

[Bacde]

lol I totally would be the first post on page 69

[Bacde]

Just ISOed Prohawk, what makes him scummy?

Just seems lazy to me

[Bacde]

Cool, Brantz is town

Unvote
Vote: Aneninen

Luna fox is my top townread

[Bacde]

VOTE: ProHawk

Omg ignore me more and be less helpful and more antitown plz

Oh wait you cant

[Bacde]

Its D1 and I like prohawk

I'm not lynching him, whether or not he is scum, unless you can pretty much guarantee a scumflip, and I'll have to review the evidence

on the other hand, lynching aninem is guaranteed to help the town right now, and later in the game it might not be as helpful if he is just bad town

We should follow me imo

blablabla you're not in charge here...sorry.

I'm not into lynching people precisely for policy reasons because I don't like the way they play. If I were aneninen wouldn't be the first on my list.

Oh hey its you Tammy, you are probably going to respect my reads this game huh?

Respecting reads is a two-way street.

Just ISOed Prohawk, what makes him scummy?

Just seems lazy to me

Lazy is one thing. Not doing anything and ignoring everything in order to slither in here and plop a vote on someone who has a post restriction he doesn't like in lieu of doing absolutely anything is another.

He can die.

Who has a post restriction?

I didn't see one on that Z character he is voting right now

[Bacde]

I like this bacde guy so far, he seems to want to get things done, and i like that.
Not like most people who float around trying to get people to sheep magically without explaining why

Well technically he hasn't explained why, but i feel like there's more push on it

I love how I can just magically ask people to sheep me and Luna Fox will townread me for not magically asking people to sheep me.

I mean, voting for the person you voted probably helped the TR too haha

[Bacde]

Hi Wisdom, long time no see =]

[Bacde]

HOLY SHIT DID WE GET THE TOMATO?!?

Hi Bacde! ^_^ Welcome!

@Oil: Instead of quoting I will just number my responses. This game has enough quote walls.

1. I think it is certainly possible that it is scum vs scum. The thing that strikes me most toward it feeling forced is that neither ones argument changes at all through the discourse. They change the language a little bit, but it is Kuroko saying the same thing over and over, and Wisdom responding with the same thing over and over. If there was town there I would expect one of them to try and bridge the gap some how. Instead it just looks contrived.

I didn't ask if you thought it was

possible

. I asked if you thought it

was

.

3. I can go find specifics if you want, but I explained what I meant by your posts being strong in the next sentence. Mostly you are open, and engaged, and the tone and content of your posts feels like you are trying to sort people.

Have you ever played with Nacho before?

4. Did Kuroko start the Wisdom wagon? I missed that if so, I feel much better about the jump back onto the wagon then. Reading it at the time it just looked like an unexplained easy vote hop because others were doing it. Hence my follow up questions.

Does this at all change your read on kuroko?

bacde replaces Konowa. Please welcome him!

FUCK YES
TOMATO FOR PRESIDENT 2016

You guys are awesome, thanks for making me feel welcome!

[Bacde]

re...sorry.

sorry if

are you canadian?

[Bacde]

Ok on a second read of zelink I can hardly stop laughing

is this guy a troll account or something? He's more behind the game than I am!

We are on post 1746 and he is hardly to 750...

how is he going to help us?

[Bacde]

No, but thank you for making me laugh. I needed that.

[Bacde]

So you guys are cool with his posts being long as shit, and completely irrelevant to the game at hand?

[Bacde]

I'm lmao at what I'm imagining must be the state of this town

alright cool, I'm game, lets do this

[Bacde]

NO WAY ZELINK QUOTES AND RESPONDS TO HIS OWN POSTS, SOME OF THEM ARE HUGE WALLS AND MAKE HIS REGULAR POST TWICE AS LONG

LMAO ZELINK HAS NO CLUE I'M HERE!!

pedit How did he respond to current posts, when did this happen?

[Bacde]

Right now I'm wondering, why AREN'T we lynching this guy????

That's why I want to know how he's responding to current things

[Bacde]

Anenien - First of all, Bacde, you're being an ass. I've played with him before, he's not useless, we're not policy lynching in a this game because that would be stupid.

Yes, I am being an ass

[redacted]

ongoing game(s?) reference.

Plus, this is D1 in a 20+ player game, there's literally no reason not to do a policy lynch, its not stupid, its actually

smart

[Bacde]

Why echo?

It's hard to believe his playstyle is worse than aninenien

[Bacde]

No but seriously why?

[Bacde]

I've never seen Aninein lynch scum, and its not like he is a timid, inexperienced, or unsure player

thats about all I can say about this character I guess without it being talk about ongoing games(?) (even tho I didn't reference any games lol) but he seems like a good lynch to me

[Bacde]

i'd have to out who he is for that

that's not against the rules, and if you want me to consider lynching echo it would definitely be the next move since it seems like you haven't seen him do anything scummy

[Bacde]

we're not policy lynching anyway. scum can and get lynched d1, remember how we steamrolled the scum back in that micro?

Yeah that was badass

It's true I haven't read the game its why I'm asking you guys questions about what has happened

[Bacde]

Yeah it looks like vedith replaced into a scum slot

[Bacde]

Non-town mindset. Lynching players because of postcount is never in town's favor.

I mean this is just bullshit that Muki made up on the spot lol

[Bacde]

Page 72 has a lot of meta about aneninen and muki that i don't understand, why can't we just read people based on this game?

Oh you misunderstood me then,

Im voting aninen because hes useless at best, not because of meta

But wisdom might get me to come around on vedith

[Bacde]

Prod dodge; I've only checked the latest pages.

Bacde. If you don't like me or my playstyle, fine. You needn't like me. But your pure dislike doesn't make me scum.

Me lynching you has less to do with me liking or even caring emotionally about you and more to do with me establishing myself as someone to be listened to if we want a town win. The first step in doing that is lynching you imo

[Bacde]

Okay, before I'm off to work, I want to do something useful.
Erm,

Do you understand, do you know what she means – as time goes by and when you've seen what she's seen...
ME
Well, she looked at me, and I, I could see that before too long

you

'd fall in love with her. She wouldn't dance with another. Whoooooh!

If that thingy has meant nothing to you, don't worry! I'm pretty sure that I'm holding one of the weakest PRs in this game and these lines may be useful for someone, somewhere... now or in the near future.

bacde, what do you think about this?

I'm pretty sure this message isn't for me

but its probably more likely to come from town than scum. Its not a huge TR for me, but I'm seriously annoyed that you showed me this because I wanted to lynch Aneninen

unvote

[Bacde]

Brantz can be town for now i guess?

[Bacde]

annoyed why?

because I wanted to lynch Aneninen

[Bacde]

at least prohawk is reading some and responding to posts in the here and now

[Bacde]

vote: vedith

added a colon to "vote" so it's recognized by the vote counter. ~f

[Bacde]

Well I liked my entrance. Seriously though so many pages to go through for day 1! (Because of 4 players alone)

So, talk to me about ProHawk. I don't see him as scum yet, why was the wagon on him? Because of his lack of involvement? Or the "I'm scum post" which was most likely sarcasm?

welcome to the game, btw

You are the new kid on the block

I am the old new kid on the block

[Bacde]

Youare all fucking dumb we jeed to lynch bratx

Yes I fuckinf know I'm out of damn hydra but I'm ou at a bar dunk off my ass and don't give shits

who is your hydra again?

[Bacde]

Tammy we aren't lynching ProHawk today because I can think of like 10 non-scum reasons to lurk on d1 in a large theme game

lets lynch someone who it will help town to lynch IMO

[Bacde]

Nothing particularly scummy in Vedith's ISO.
I want to see more from Vedith before deciding what to think.

If we end up not lynching Vedith I'm always willing to go back to Aneninen...

[Bacde]

cmon prohawk scum or not its pretty obvious no one wants to lynch Tammy

lets focus on lynchable targets, like Vedith or Aneninen

[Bacde]

I'm not even trying to look busy so I'm not sure what you're going on about there Tammy

You didn't answer my question about why its concerning though.

Also, pooping in to complain about something that I'd really not that annoying does feel like you're trying to look busy.

Wait... Did you have a question? Oh yeah.

It concerns me because you used it to attack me and call me scummy for someone with a "PR" when its A) obviously not. and B) it just felt like a stick for you to grab to try and beat me with.

You could have easily said " think it's scummy that that's all you keep focusing on [is muffins alt] in lieu of scum hunting" instead of "plop a vote on someone who has a post restriction".

See how you just made that up to make you sound cooler?

OH MY GODS

What a pile of semantic bullshit.

How often do you meet people in dark corners and ask if they've danced with the devil by the paid moonlight? I feel like it's often.

???

[Bacde]

Tammy we aren't lynching ProHawk today because I can think of like 10 non-scum reasons to lurk on d1 in a large theme game

lets lynch someone who it will help town to lynch IMO

It has nothing to do with lurking. I think his is more likely to be scum lurk than town lurk and I'd rather lynch scum than someone who's play style I'm not fond of. Anne's play style is far from being the most destructive to town; I don't care if he doesn't usually lynch. From what I've seen he tries and is not a chucklefuck who ruins games by doing bullshit like lol hammering cuz gosh that's fun, and is therefore not someone I'd policy lynch.

Find me a reason he's actually scum and I'll help, otherwise no thank you.

Aneninen is voting that guy you say has a post restriction, should we lynch him?

Since you are all up on prohawk for voting Zelink.

I don't know why else you think he is scum?

[Bacde]

I just realized literally everyone in this game is a hydra

[Bacde]

Can we Lynch vedith or aneninen literally brantz is a cop out and aneninen is actually scummy. The only argument against lynching aneninen I've heard is that no one has paid attention to how scummy he is being

[Bacde]

I had heard great things about bacde, am I right to feel underwhelmed?

HELL NO YOU ARE DEAD WRONG

but the only way for you to not feel underwhelmed is to drop all your paranoia and hesitation because I have just found scum. And don't give me any of your bullshit "we only have 3 days left" because 3 days is exactly enough time to pull of a town bw and lynch a mafioso

That scum's name?

Albert Einstein

I mean...

Perpetual Nonsense

I actually noticed this guy for the first time just recently, when he posted this:

so vedith, can you explain to me why wisdom is scum?
i feel like i've missed something.

I realized this is exactly the kind of question I would ask if I was scum... it makes you look busy and town without actually producing anything yourself, and it keeps the attention off yourself. Its a small unassuming post, so its tough for people to catch it.

In fact, his entire ISO is full of these busy-looking questions, with no real follow-through or thought process behind them it seems, here are a few of his gems:

I think people like to think of people they like as town. Grandpa Oil is like the extreme example. With the avatar that has the creepily hostile grey moist ache, etc.

"Charismatic, Playful Grandpa Oil - I like this guy - sure he seems like an awfully nice [town] geezer! He wouldn't hurt a fly" buddy target number 1 and easily approachable

^why not?

[dem walls give mwah (US) an excuse-say mwah to NOT read this jibber jabber! LOVE THIS GAME! WUB

BERT!

OHMYGODHOWAREYOU

Hey mate. WE are doing GREAT! HOW ABOUT YOURSELF
WE haven't missed you because you were here for such a short time, it's like YOU were never here! No worries, that is not a problem. I will pretend WE have met before!

can we get rid of echo already so we can play this game without noise?

WE have suspicions about who Echo is. Is it someone who WE have played with before?

Same with Luna? Both alts and mafia vets?

Has the site been this slow lately? Having trouble loading today. This support's been AWOL for a few weeks

The only reason I asked Tammy is because it was just something that seemed really town at time; I would post and argue with Tammy for a while and then Bert would call me charismatic and slimy. I think it would be really ballsy of him to whisper in Tammy's ear mid-argument and I wasn't sure if that translated when reading back.

BS meter

Len Goodman?

TEN!!!!!!!!!

if scum wis and town wis dont exist, then how does town ns exist?

VOTE: ZeL1nK2

It took me a while to sift through his ISO because its just full of inane bullshit pretty much, he's a perfect D1 lynch, and is more agreeably good to everyone than Aneninen who everyone thinks I'm tunneling for no reason but will flip scum at the end

Yes I understand he's trying to play a character by just posting inane things, but his only participatory posts have a aura of fakeness that can't be ignored

Vote: Perpetual Nonsense

[Bacde]

oh i forgot about pn. Yeah, wouldn't mind that either

VOTE: perpetual nonsense

Are you going to vote for everyone today, Wisdom?

haha this post is scummy as shit

you're lucky that I don't remember having any opinion of you this game klingon or I might have tried switching to you

[Bacde]

WE think that's 3 votes right now?
PN clearly needs more.

DOOOD UR SO CHILL NO WAY CAN SOMEONE DIS CHiLL BE SCUM RIGHT????????????????

[Bacde]

Or on any scumlists.
Mostly, i was entertained by bacde's proud declaration that "PN must be scum since they are doing stuff I would do as scum"

Cool, be entertained all the way to the fucking lynch

[Bacde]

Vote: perpetual nonsense

I thought I voted that already

added ":" so vote counter will count this. - f

[Bacde]

Brantz is such a fucking cop out lynch

I'm calling shenanigans here because the PN wagon would have gained more momentum if my vote on PN was counted properly IMO

[Bacde]

VOTE: BRANTZ

have fun with your tunnel, Wisdom WONT HAPPEN, GET THAT OUTTA HERE lol

I will keep winking every time you mention why you think I'm not town or whatever







(three times for maximum effect)

holy shit if you don't scumread this then you need to give up at playing mafia

[Bacde]

Brantz is such a fucking cop out lynch

I'm calling shenanigans here because the PN wagon would have gained more momentum if my vote on PN was counted properly IMO

Brantz lynch is a cop-out?
If you're implying we're turning away from "real scumhunting" or that the Brantz lynch is lazy, please show me how; there has been a case provided and people have talked about why Brantz is a good bet for scum and so far the only rebuttal has been "well there was a thing he did that looked town".

Alternatively, bring points on PN that aren't "these guys don't make sense"; wild and ridiculous playstyle is just playstyle and no one's interested in the second policy lynch attempt of the day.

lmao see you haven't even read what I posted about PN

my scumread on him has absolutely nothing to do with his (boring and predictable) playstyle, or his post content of 80% bullshit

my scumread on him is entirely based on the few things he's done to actually interact with the game

[Bacde]

tbh I'm just assuming Brantz is town because I have 0 confidence that this is not a scum-lead wagon

[Bacde]

Tammy just sheep me or claim scum already jeez

[Bacde]

Flashwagon PN go go go

[Bacde]

I don't expect I'll get lynched regardless of whether I stay in the game or not.

But after the long weekend, I'm going to get busier and this game really isn't worth the time.

Then replace out now wtf is wrong with you?

[Bacde]

I don't expect I'll be in this game past day 2, I'd rather get my way while I'm still around.

If you are just going to drop out of the game after the weekend because its not worth your time why do you give a flying fuck who is lynched?

[Bacde]

PANCAKES DONT FIX BULLET HOLES

YOU SAY SORRY JUST FOR SHOW

IF YOU LIVE LIKE THAT, YOU LIVE TO

VOTE: ANENINEN

[Bacde]

CUZ BABY NOW WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS

AND I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THEM

YOU MADE A REALLY DEEP CU-UT

BUT ALL WE'VE GOTTA DO IS LYNCH ANENINEN (HEY!)

[Bacde]

this is obviously happening, who's going to claim the last townpoints and finish him up?

[Bacde]

because why do you even scumread brantz?

[Bacde]

because why do you even scumread brantz?

Because yer mum's a man.

true but out of game influence man

[Bacde]

"Okay now that I have bacde under my wing I can coast to lategame once i nightkill prohawk tonight."

Sound about right, hawkie? I know you want this to be new york 165 all over again but it ain't!

pretty sure I was the first dude to pitch an aneninen lynch

[Bacde]

ftr, the only people im gonna vote today is brantz, ika or vedith, and i dont think the last 2 of those are scum as of right now.
The only other vote im going to do today is a No Lynch vote, because im tired of this "let's chase every PR until every PR has claimed" game.
I'll refer back to:

So let's suppose we do switch to aneninen.

>Wagon switches to aneninen making him L-1
>Claims confirmable role / IC / something that makes us not want to lynch him
>???

good to know you aren't going to help the inevitable aneninen lynch

[Bacde]

After rereading both ISOs I've concluded I still want BRantz dead more than Anen.

VOTE: BRantz

well at least you pretended to want to help the town

[Bacde]

I think we got lucky with brantz flipping scum

Idiocy, i voted aneninem because i think he has a good chance of being scum

[Bacde]

Who wants to lynch anen

[Bacde]

Sell me, meh, maybe.

Konowa was town as fuck, so Bacde is too. The Anen push felt genuine as all hell, even if it was total garbage.

Bert is this shining beacon of towniness simply because he has these hidden little gems in between all the nonsense. Also neighborhood posting, which he should stop doing.

Notty I had reasons for, but I've forgotten and I need to go to the grocery store. Besides, yesterday we pretty much proved we know what we're doing and you all should sit back, shut the fuck up an sheep us anyways.

lmao

you don't get to townread me and simultaneously attempt to discredit me

brantz being scum was lucky don't get cocky

[Bacde]

Ika could be an ok lynch actually tho

[Bacde]

Town: Luna, Grandpa Oil, Tammy, WallofFire

Neutral:

Ika Zaru

, Medea,

Klingon

,

Pisskop

, Fluff, Zelink,

Idiocy

, Konowa

Scummy: Kuroko, Wisdom

People who others seem to have a much better read on that I need to iso (more to remind myself to do this than anything else): Kamigami, AJ, Perpetual Nonsense, ProHawk, Muki, Anein.

this is the first list. he has two tiers of null though (probably has scum in both)

So you think that Brantz knew who his partners were?

[Bacde]

yeah i dont recall a joat flip is this a slip my friends????????????

[Bacde]

hmmmmm???????????????

[Bacde]

yeah i dont recall a joat flip is this a slip my friends????????????

Please explain, tomato person.

Wis, stay out of this for a sec.

wait, do you actually think he was a JOAT?

[Bacde]

Go reread, and please explain your thought-process leading to your post I quoted in detail.

No, I seriously want to know if you think Brantz had JOAT powers or not

[Bacde]

Don't you think if I actually thought you made a scum slip I would have made a bigger deal out of it and voted you at least or something????????????

Do you actually think Brantz was JOAT??

[Bacde]

I see that once you had no one to buddy you in your argument, you back off immediately, bacde.

I have no idea what Brantz would have, but assuming that he was a naked traitor seems naive from a player's POV, and tasteless from a mod's POV.

are you really this paranoid?

do I really seem that schemeing to you dude? What in this threat has caused you to feel this way about me?

[Bacde]

Luna, I think Nacho/Syr was trolling, not rolefishing.

why is it so easy for you to believe they are trolling, while you immediately jump to assuming I have some weird sort of scum master plan which includes baiting people into idiot reasons to think someone slipped

[Bacde]

what if we just dont vote yet is that cool

[Bacde]

One head is back from the weekend.
one thing. Za Tomato doesn't look like he has a "PN lynch hard on" anymore.
what changed?

Remember when I was trying to lynch Anen?

[Bacde]

Eh I could totally buy Wisdom being scum but I just don't want him to be which is why I'm looking for scum elsewhere

[Bacde]

words

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by me having lingering scum read against your slot, since I'm pretty obviously townhunting, and as opposed to scumhunting.

I divided the town into "acceptable lynch" group and "not acceptable lynch" group, and saw that your wagon is the largest wagon of the "acceptable lynch" group, and voted there.

thats good organizing actually, I'm going to try this

[Bacde]

both lists in no particular order

Acceptable to lynch

Oil Tycoons (?)
klingoncelt
Aneninem
pisskop
Idiocy
Medea the Alien
Ika Zaru
fluff central
Wall of Fire
Wisdom
Aj The Epic
Kuroko Network
Luna Fox
Vedith
Prohawk

Not acceptable to lynch

Bacde
Tammy
Kamigami
Perpetual Nonsense (?)

Here's what I've got

[Bacde]

Tammy
Kamigami

What have these two done since you joined that made them unacceptable to lynch?

I'm not sure, I just don't want to Lynch them

[Bacde]

Tammy
Kamigami

What have these two done since you joined that made them unacceptable to lynch?

like, Tammy hasn't emphasized a huge importance on "figuring out the game" and hasn't said the word "hate" three times in a row so she's probably town

[Bacde]

If you find Kamigami unacceptable to lynch, then by extension, I should be unacceptable to lynch too.

Why? You are not kamigami

[Bacde]

Medea is unacceptable to lynch bacde. My view of you has dropped considerably

Why?

[Bacde]

What have these two done since you joined that made them unacceptable to lynch?

Uncle Typhoon you could answer the same thing regarding Wisdom! Are you saying Tammy hasn't been townie D2? How has her play been any different from D1 outside of not interacting with you much?

I want the tomato's thought process you jackass. Buzz off.

If you really want to know why I'm so disinterested in a Wisdom lynch, ask yourself this: why on earth would scum-Wisdom fight so fucking hard to not lynch brantz when all he really had to do was let himself be carried along on the wagon. Scum-Wisdom doesn't have the chutzpah to take on Nacho (or some others in this game) face to face like that, particularly since him-scum gains relatively little by doing so.

Ultimately the only case I've seen so far against Wisdom is "I don't like what he's doing or how he's playing." That's not a scumtell particularly from Wisdom. If he's still alive and my scumspects aren't, or he does something particularly scummy (which so far he hasn't), I'll revisit lynching him. Until then, my box of fucks regarding Wisdom or his potential lynch is completely empty. And on fire. And fire is bad for business.

And why do I need your approval in which strategy I employ in this game?

I find townhunting to be fun and effective in role madness games.

@kamagami

And I've seen it. However, being open to lynch 9 people isn't proving much to me especially when you won't call them explicitly scum to any extent.

And no, kagami has said nothing more on the subject.

Is this going anywhere, or are you both arguing for form's sake? If the latter, quit.

Pedit: Dammit Bert, stop reading my mind

Lol nacho is not a god

If anyone would 1v1 your ass and not care it would be scum wisdom

Either way I'm not really trying to Lynch him

[Bacde]

Lol nacho is not a god

If anyone would 1v1 your ass and not care it would be scum wisdom

Either way I'm not really trying to Lynch him

My emphasis was aimed more at the lack of any kind of need or desire for scum-Wisdom to create such a fuss over Brantz.

Also just because you refuse to admit you worship Nacho doesn't mean he's not a god!

Oh I openly worship nacho for being a human and my bud apparently

[Bacde]

Lmao kami da real god here

[Bacde]

I don't like your list man

[Bacde]

When did farside get here

[Bacde]

Ugh I wanted to sheep OT but now that slot is dead I'm not so sure

[Bacde]

Woah

[Bacde]

I mean obviously it's not but still

[Bacde]

Agreed.

Thoughts on Bacde?

Pedit: I was wondering when you'd show up to make her excuses for her

its not an exucse its a fact. mostly cus she had a IRL issue when the game began that casued her to kidna flake from it.

you dont knwo shit about mala situationa nd i dont make a shit exuse for her absense. its a fact that she has very little intrest in this right now and i dont blame her

oh lmao I forgot OT is allowed to post today

TBH I'd be surprised if anyone had any particularly strong thoughts about me since recently I've been kind of not as active

[Bacde]

Do you guys want to lynch aneninem yet or no??

[Bacde]

So Ika reads as town to me. Can we lynch Anen yet? Ika is not paying attention bc he is town but Anen is not bc he is scum

[Bacde]

cmon guys this is your moment to tap into the mind of bacade

[Bacde]

VOTE: bcade

This is a three day long tunnel after Aninenin did his best town impression d2.

what if I was just right on d1 and I still feel like I am right

no one has presented any arguments as to why I should vote someone else

this entire thread is a lot of useless noise

voting IKA because he's crazy and his avatar is weird and he is ignoring the useless banter like I am doesn't cut it for me

[Bacde]

So Ika reads as town to me. Can we lynch Anen yet? Ika is not paying attention bc he is town but Anen is not bc he is scum

I'll bite. Why is Anen scum?

Why is Anen town?

if you can give me like 1 mediocre reason then I might consider ending this tunnel

[Bacde]

Pomegranate/Tomahto reminds this support of Psyche's playstyle in Purple

lol you're cool

its a tomato tho I was joking about the pomegranate

[Bacde]

And ppl are treating WoF and to a lesser extent AJ as town after the results

WoF is town because reasons. AJ isn't, miller cop be damned.

Oh, I'm willing to lynch AJ

[Bacde]

Man is it just me or is this game becoming hyperinflated with a lot of fluff?

Its hard for me to figure out whats important

[Bacde]

I WILL FIND A SCUM

[Bacde]

who did echo replace?

[Bacde]

what a twist! (wrt pisskop goings on)

anyway who is down to lynch echo?

Seriously?? This dude has no reason to scumread me besides me being an ostensibly easy lynch

[Bacde]

Is anyone open to an Anen lynch?

echo this should be right up your alley since you want to lynch useless players apparently

[Bacde]

Can you help me with bcade, Tammy? Aninenin is probably town. Aninenin is also bcade's only focus(when he decides to be here). He's lurking, not contributing to the majority of the discussion at hand and Wisdom is supporting him... Well, it could be a metric buttload of wifom if he is scum, but Wisdom feels more icky than an adolescent right now.

My decision on both Kling/Pisskop is related to the flips of Wisdom/Idiocy and would rather wait for it to come up. I've largely ignored the last few pages of "no case!" vs "I don't need cases!" (the neighborhood's discussion is decidedly better imo) but if one of idiocy/wisdom flips scum, I'm comfortable with pisskop's decision.

So for just a few lines of text, you too could join the slowest growing wagon on mafiascum.

It's kinda like the green vote: We're not really going to win, but it's still important enough to praise Ralph Nader.

help you how tho? I can help you--I'm town

[Bacde]

PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH FOR TWO DAYS

IF THERE IS A LYNCH IN THREAD BEFORE 48.HOUTS I WILL SPAM THE EVERLOVING SHIT OUT OF THREAD AND ALSO WILL HATE YOU AS A PERSON

I have no computer. I wanted to finish meta-ing pisskop and also start sorting out Echo Echo. Please let me do this.

Much exes and ounces,
Naches

literally have 0 interest in this

[Bacde]

Prohawk - I've never really been good at fake pushing people, though I really try at it sometimes!, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do, but if you want to talk reads with me, I'm all ears.

what do you mean fake pushing people?

[Bacde]

Prohawk - I've never really been good at fake pushing people, though I really try at it sometimes!, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do, but if you want to talk reads with me, I'm all ears.

what do you mean fake pushing people?

Pushing people for reactions isn't my forte.

Oh ok

[Bacde]

How crazy would it be if PN ended up being scum

[Bacde]

I could buy Kling being scum tbh

[Bacde]

lets just lynch a dude i guess

VOTE: echo

[Bacde]

Syryana is merely spamming "Lynch Echo" while riding on the coattails of Nacho's popularity. I'd dare say, if she was playing solo without the backbone of Nacho, nobody'd be listening to that.

TL;DR Fuck off.

Oh nice echo is actually scum

[Bacde]

Also, nobody's going to tell Nacho in his face that he's wrong, unless they are really confident about it.

As it stands, nobody is confident enough about me being town, barring investigative clears.

Get with it. True facts of life.

I tell nacho all the time he's wrong

He's just a dude, dude

He doesn't seem like a big deal to me this game but maybe that's bcuz I've been mostly ignoring OT's posts lol

[Bacde]

What's up guys

[Bacde]

OT isn't dead?

[Bacde]

I don't want to claim

Sorry about being so in n out guys

Is it possible I can claim tomorrow?

[Bacde]

lmao this is hilarious

i am the hanged man

illuminated by the knight of swords

and the Ace of wands

my element was water but now its air for some reason

i am a town super saint and revenant neighbor

last person to vote to lynch me is killed and I get to neighborize someone when i die for a night and day

so at least unvote me and discuss who you want to place the last vote before lynching me or whatever

seriously guys, 1 post telling you to lay off my nuts for a bit and you start a bw?

[Bacde]

Hold on, you're a super saint yet you had no issue with Pisskop claiming aesthetic super saint?

when did I say I had no issue with pisskop claiming aesthetic super saint?

wouldn't it be more likely that I am telling the truth about being in n out and haven't seen anyone's claim?

holy shit you really constructed a false reality about how I am playing this game wow

[Bacde]

vote: aj the epic

[Bacde]

like what is the point of holding off a supersaint claim till tomorrow

I literally can't think of any reason

i wanted to hold off because I knew you guys would just immediately lynch me after claiming it rather than waiting til next game day when irl I'll have more time and be able to dive in deeper as I scumhunt

aj is scum here its superficially obvious so you town can thank me later

[Bacde]

aj unvote me and be the hammer vote on me you scum fuck

if you are so confident I am scum you should have no issue with doing this

[Bacde]

BTW SUSPICION PROPHYLAXIS: FOR THOSE OF YOU WONDERING WHY IM VOTING AJ OVER PISSKOP

I can think of town reasons to fakeclaim supersaint. I can't think of town reasons to misrepresent how someone else has been playing the game just to get them lynched quickly and easily (what AJ is doing)

[Bacde]

oh nice I just townslipped

I dunno I thought that was in vogue for super saint claims lol

[Bacde]

so because I commented on the townslip you pointed out you now vote me?

I'm not even making a big deal out of it, of course it could be faked

I'm just pointing out that you seem to be insecure about your read on me, especially if me agreeing with you about your read on me was enough to tip you back over

maybe you should vote for someone who you think is scum rather than voting me because I make posts that are hard for you to interpret (here's a hint: a town player is more likely to agree with you for townreading them while a scum player has a higher chance to not bring attention to out out of feeling nervous)

my posts aren't hard to interpret or particularly suspicious, you are just giving them an unusually large amount of paranioa and bias when you read them

really you are gonna let AJ slide on this and not even push for him to be the hammering vote on me?

[Bacde]

dude i don't even know your role, why would I fake this

I'm just literally an infuriating player to be with I'm not faking it I'm sorry its my personalty i guess haha

but I'm town man I can't fake being town

[Bacde]

isn't it more likely for me to be scum but also telling the truth about not paying attention as opposed to scum and lying about not paying attention (when I am really secretly paying attention)?

your claim that I am lying about not paying attention and that is why you suspect me is really weird

[Bacde]

mine and I guess pisskops old roleclaim

[Bacde]

I feel confident that I finally found scum in AJ and possibly luna fox since she isn't making sense to me right now

I need to see luna's response to this

[Bacde]

ok well lynching me when there is a cop inno on me seems fucking stupid lmao

[Bacde]

luna what the hell are you really that insecure about your mafia play? you townread me for all the right reasons like 5 minutes ago but when I agree with you you flip back? Don't you think a town player would agree with your townread on them?

you even have a cop inno on me

lmao I dunno how to convince you if you are really that insecure

is it because I seem experienced?

[Bacde]

so luna has no other cop reports to compare against?

i feel like the cop sanity issue should be resolved by now

[Bacde]

i don't understand why there isn't a bigger issue being made out of who has the hammering vote

guys thats an important part of this if you are actually going to lynch me

it should be AJ

[Bacde]

well i guess its impossible for a town to have a "sucky ISO" then?

lmao how do I defend against such a terrible accusation?

sure if you wanna random lynch me go right ahead but at least admit thats essentially what it is

[Bacde]

watch in amazement as AJ finds reason after reason he can't unvote yet and oh by the way will someone else just hammer already?

[Bacde]

watch in amazement as AJ finds reason after reason he can't unvote yet and oh by the way will someone else just hammer already?

emphasis

i'm gonna repeat this one a lot

[Bacde]

i don't understand why there isn't a bigger issue being made out of who has the hammering vote

guys thats an important part of this if you are actually going to lynch me

it should be AJ

Sure, I'll hammer your ass.

AJ said he's willing to wreck your shit, Bacde. You're done here.

Post your last words, if you have any.

you must be lazy or behind the times or something cuz ppl are unvoting me

get with the current fashion and lynch a real scum yo we are beyond me now

[Bacde]

another lynch successfully avoided by yours truly

[Bacde]

as long as you guys are lynching me I'll come clean and say I'm actually bomb and was trying to get nightkilled

so you cant blame me for flipping bomb and be like "we would have played optimally if we had known"

[Bacde]

as long as you guys are lynching me I'll come clean and say I'm actually bomb and was trying to get nightkilled

so you cant blame me for flipping bomb and be like "we would have played optimally if we had known"

Why did you think you would have any chance whatsoever of being NKed as a supersaint? You really couldn't think of anything sufficiently kill-worthy to offset your play?

I dunno, do you have a better idea of something I could have claimed that likely wouldn't have been cced creating a cc battle, but would still possibly get nightkilled?

[Bacde]

I think we should stick with plot hammers Bacde.

it doesn't matter who hammers me i'm not supersaint

think things through

[Bacde]

I dunno, do you have a better idea of something I could have claimed that likely wouldn't have been cced creating a cc battle, but would still possibly get nightkilled?

N5 Global Tracker, N5 Global Rolecop jump to mind, N5 full reviver (supported by the rules too!) all jump to mind as good claims given you were lying anyway.

those sound awfully creative and more likely to come from scum actually trying to fake a claim than a town trying to bullshit something for a night and see what happens

[Bacde]

I think we should stick with plot hammers Bacde.

it doesn't matter who hammers me i'm not supersaint

think things through

I did!

Plot hammer bacde.

why does it matter to you who hammers me?

[Bacde]

Isn't there anyone here who feels like my lynch is a cop out?

I dunno

[Bacde]

Because there's a non-zero possibility that you're a scum supersaint who was just told that his partner would be forced to hammer him and so decided to claim he was lying.

Why does it matter to you that he doesn't hammer?

this doesn't seem convoluted to you?

if I was a scum supersaint why would I reveal being a supersaint to the town at all, my partners would probably already know I was a supersaint

seriously think these things through dude, I wasn't just trying to jab at you

[Bacde]

Because there's a non-zero possibility that you're a scum supersaint who was just told that his partner would be forced to hammer him and so decided to claim he was lying.

Why does it matter to you that he doesn't hammer?

it doesn't

its interesting to me however that you think it does, so I'm trying to figure out why you think that way and continue analyzing the gamestate as is my function as a member of the town

[Bacde]

why are you asking me that question?

its pretty clear to me that my reads have been off this game, no one listened to my intial fos on anen which has not waned, and I haven't been a part of the major wagons

plus i don't really feel like you are open to hearing from me

not to be a pity party but honestly right now I don't know, but I'm still up for Anen

[Bacde]

I guess at this point its mostly gut, I was paying closer attention tot his game on d1 but since then no one has listened to my reads and the town has lynched mafia completely without me so I haven't really been the most proactive anymore

but I remember anen has never impressed me with a town seeming motive

why is it that no one wants to lynch him again?

[Bacde]

Because there's a non-zero possibility that you're a scum supersaint who was just told that his partner would be forced to hammer him and so decided to claim he was lying.

Why does it matter to you that he doesn't hammer?

this doesn't seem convoluted to you?

if I was a scum supersaint why would I reveal being a supersaint to the town at all, my partners would probably already know I was a supersaint

seriously think these things through dude, I wasn't just trying to jab at you

Non-zero. I can think of reasons to reveal supersaint as scum however unlikely.

I think plot and aneninen are also great lynches, and the revelation that Luna's role was rubbish makes me feel much better about the gamestate.

well ok if you really think i would put the power of supersainthood into towns hands as a scum supersaint go ahead and care about the last vote on me

i just think its silly because I obviously wouldn't do that, and I'm confused by your stubbornness

[Bacde]

This seems too easy.

Why would you question lynching me?

I haven't been particularly town this game

I just also haven't done anything scummy

[Bacde]

I also don't think scum shoot Luna if Bacde is scum.

why not?

If Bacde was scum, they'd know Luna was either naive or insane; either result meant the next day wouldn't really be a threat from her.

hey I like this

I seriously doubt I would kill a cop with an inno on me as scum

[Bacde]

Did anyone claim it in the reveal stage? Who made Wisdom and Idiocy lovers?

I don't remember anyone claiming that.

Also, now I think on it, the loverised angle confirms Bacde as town.

Do I have to ask why you think it so?
In my opinion this doesn't change anything about him. Also, see below!

Notscience probably did it.

Did he?

Except that scum would loved-ize town-bacde with someone who is confirmed town, thereby both framing bacde and eliminating a conf-town at the same time. This was a town action, as is probably going to be claimed if you insist on it.

I think the same. If it had been a scum action,
They would have chosen eg. Plotinus.

________

In short, I don't think this changes anything about Bacde.

VOTE: Bacde

Not only because noone has asked me to hammer him. Also, because...
I dare you, Vedith! ^_^

________

By the way, I think I know whom I'm enabling.

here it is guys

the scum voting me

[Bacde]

what I'm lovers now?

don't lynch me or vedith today guys this seems like a scum move

[Bacde]

Some thoughts.
Who was the scum on the Ika-wagon? Maybe Prohawk? What shall we think of Medeia? Why should I vote for Klingonette? I've seen her scumplay before and it was very, very different.

Also, I've been thinking.
When Brantz had flipped I was considered obv-town by most. If so, why the f-ck am I still alive? Maybe Tammy and Luna were more obvious targets. (I still don't get the Zelnick-kill, though.) If I'm enabling a town-PR, hooray. However, if it happens to turn out that I'm enabling a

scum

-PR, I'm a utility lynch.

There are concerns that the one who hammers Bacde may die too. Providing there's a chance for that, Plotinus shouldn't hammer. I should. Everyone seems to agree that Plotinus's town whereas some thinks that I'm scum.

omg dude I'm bomb

there is 0% chance of someone hammering me dying

if you were town you'd understand that I've already been in a fight this game about this topic

[Bacde]

VOTE: aneninen

watch me not get lynched today either lmao

[Bacde]

what I'm lovers now?
don't lynch me or vedith today guys this seems like a scum move

Were you not notified of this?

Actually that was very scummy from Bacde. Vedith came out of nowhere only to say that he'd been loverized. Compare that to this.
Also... it's all about survivalism instead of trying to get any reads.
Plus, although that's only my opinion, if a scum had a role like that, they'd wait to use it until LyLo or a LyLo-close situation. (Unless the Loverizer were very close to lynch.) But I must admit, this is sheer speculation.

No I got a PM, its just crazy to me that everyone else knows too?

[Bacde]

Only scum write loaded questions.

You should play with Town Titus sometime. Or Town Wake.

Only scum deal in absolutes

[Bacde]

what I'm lovers now?
don't lynch me or vedith today guys this seems like a scum move

Were you not notified of this?

Actually that was very scummy from Bacde. Vedith came out of nowhere only to say that he'd been loverized. Compare that to this.
Also... it's all about survivalism instead of trying to get any reads.
Plus, although that's only my opinion, if a scum had a role like that, they'd wait to use it until LyLo or a LyLo-close situation. (Unless the Loverizer were very close to lynch.) But I must admit, this is sheer speculation.

Lmao I don't really feel like a survivalist, maybe you have been misunderstanding my general lack of awareness of the thread?

[Bacde]

Why didn't you claim it?

...I just did claim it...

[Bacde]

Dunno. Just lynch your way through Anen/Plot/Bacde until mod declares the game is over

If you are sure everyone else is town I'm cool with this

[Bacde]

I

am

totally Town.

I have no idea how I got in the hood with PN. I have no abilities at all now.

I don't know anything about who got loverized.

I can't confirm any kill sources. That's an investigator's job. I didn't kill anyone.

Nope.

Well, we have noone claiming to have neighborized the two of you.

We have noone claiming to have made them lovers.

Had you used your vig, you would have confirmed yourself as a secondary kill source and purely based off of someone dying we'd know at least some part of your claim is valid. Shucking it off on someone else is stupid.

You have claimed a role that A) Someone's already flipped B) Has a limitation that NOONE else has, C) Has not been verified in the slightest

Everyone else is either confirmed town or have their roles semi-confirmed, sans you, bacde, and anen.

Kamigami found AJ's miller, which I suppose this is the avenue you want to pursue and try to push them as a scum joat

Vedith is confirmed by nature of the twilights.

I'm confirmed.

Bert's confirmed.

AJ's a miller who, if he had these abilities, Kami would have outted it.

WoF's confirmed messenger.

Plot's been sending out songs.

Prohawk's confirmed by Kamigami.

Cabd's confirmed by prohawk.

So, Kling.

Is one of the conftowns lying?

Where's the loverizer coming from? How'd you get neighborized with Bert?

I like this

[Bacde]

Bacde wagon is dumb given that vedith is very near conf-town now.

Given the lovedization is scum-controlled, it makes absolutely no sense they would tie vedith to the most likely lynch if he's scum given that there was enough anti-vedith sentiment that it was possible people would become even more enthusiastic about the lynch.

yaaay

[Bacde]

If the lovers were made by scum, it's highly likely that bacde is scum. Its like an additional kill for scum.

boo

[Bacde]

lmao its like my initial push against aneninen was a vaccine against anyone ever pushing him again, cmon guys lets lynch him follow kamigami

[Bacde]

true

[Bacde]

Why is fluff conf town again?

[Bacde]

Why is everyone ignoring voting Anen?

Literally this guy hasn't done shit, I don't understand why in his case its allowed to slide while I'm town over here and people think I'm the automatic lynch even though its gonna result in vedith dying too

No shit I wasn't killed overnight, I'm a bomb

I don't know why vedith wasn't killed, probably because scum thought they could easily two-for-one us with a lynch on me, which is probably why they lovered us

[Bacde]

oh it wore off

[Bacde]

By the way, did anyone received a video or something else Last Night?

Also,

Bacde

, if you get lynched, will you kill automatically the one who hammers you?

no

[Bacde]

fine

we'll lynch anen first so that bacde has no regrets

is this acceptable, bacde?

Vote: Anen

sure

VOTE: anen