Three-Pronged Trouser God Mafia GAME OVER- Happy Ending?

[Gorkington]

lol.
this is why youre pinging scum.
because youre an intelligent person.
and i strongly believe an intelligent person like yourself knows that scum can lie.

[Gorkington]

oh shit true.
:/

[Gorkington]

UNLESS HES A JOAT.
/casesolved.

[Gorkington]

wow yeah the odds of him getting caught by a tracker or watcher on n1 in a 25 person game are pretty strong.

[Gorkington]

fair.
warped's claim seems more scripted to me though.

[Gorkington]

i actually can really easily believe anen's n1 target.
his iso lines up with it pretty well.

p-edit: this is why warped is scum.
hes not looking for scum hes looking for alternatives.

[Gorkington]

lets get real.
i believe both claims.
which is more likely to be scum?
wn's role was designed to be frustrating and dangerous to scum.
town doesnt have a strong true cop to offset how many fake cops we have.
thereby it makes the most sense to me for town to have a true cop to offset a stronger pruddite faction and for scum to have an sk cop to offset a sk who can steal their kills.
there only really is the result that dgb got that i dont particularly understand based on everything claimed.

p-edit: spiff was calling you town?

[Gorkington]

His conviction is a weak reason to townread him and you know that because you are not applying the same reason to townread me.

except your conviction was only strong when you had a scum faction to easily push..
the moment you lost that crutch you became weak at the knees at every push you'd made.
look at how youre playing now vs how you were when imp was alive.

[Gorkington]

everything in this game just really feels like it indicates that youre scum.
sorry bro.

[Gorkington]

you can come to your "conclusions" or whatever, but if youre scum you might as well concede because im not lynching both anen and jaqen over you.

[Gorkington]

I won't go into exactly why I'm more town than anyone else

lmfao.
i want to quicklynch you so fucking hard right now.

[Gorkington]

it actually might be anen.
jailed n2 and no defunded that night.
theres still shos to take into account, but still.

[Gorkington]

gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
i hate that warped seems so fake but jaqen has no fire and anen would be super shit to lose to and dgb's imp guilty is bugging me ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Gorkington]

for the game? It's not (though stiffness is a good thing!)

for the rvs? So what?

as for you, I don't like your reaction.

Vote: ZZZX

oh hey, an awkward earlygame push.
and then after this push this scumread mysteriously disappears ooOoOOooo.

Yes, but I think there's bigger fish to fry. And Jaqen has other people to shoot before zzzx, imo.

hey looky here.

you haven't been reading very closely, zzzx

A few people aren't really reading closely this game.

OOOOOOOOO.

can we not vote ZZZX until this shit between DGB and Imp is finished? Even if ZZZX warrants death that's not a priority right now.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Gorkington]

I've never seen Goofball so wrong on so many people as she has been in this game. As town anyhow. Maybe I'm just holding her to too high a standard. This isn't a meta thing. This is a flat statement. DGB.Nails.Scum.

i dont agree with this.
high expectations is a bad reason to scumread someone, especially since dgb has no reason not to scumhunt in multiball.

What's to re-check? If it was a Track she would have targetted Imperium. If it were a Watch she'd have to have targetted Slobber. And then, all of a sudden she pretty much claims Vanilla.

she claimed that she got amnesiac results. hence she wouldnt know exactly whether it was a track or watch.

Biggest thing in favor of DGB is Voided trying to policy-lynch Loran.

theres also that voided forgot who she replaced which was just such a casual slip that i genuinely strongly believe that shes town.
also thanks, youre helping me remember why jaqen is town.
pool is back to anen and warped.
will talk about why spiffeh is town tonight.

[Gorkington]

hey jaqen.
im moody.
so let me establish now that if you hold onto beliefs after i challenge them and you dont respond to those challenges then im gonna start getting paranoid of you again.

[Gorkington]

okay something i actually give a shit about.
dgb.
please talk about the amnesiac result.
was there any kind of formatting to it beyond the result?
what makes you specifically feel like it couldnt have come from warped vs others?

[Gorkington]

wait when was this?

[Gorkington]

so wait you want to sheep whoever warped thinks is scum right now?
also, you really need to articulate why you think warped isnt the one who sent you the track/watch results or whatever.

[Gorkington]

otherwise im just gonna wave my arms around.

[Gorkington]

How did I help you remember that Jaqen is town?

things jaqen did d1 that were town.
like completely ignoring the titus guilty in a brazen manner.

[Gorkington]

activity isnt a great reason to scumread someone.
but youre right.

[Gorkington]

i would think jaqen would be the least likely to be the one to send you the results.
dont really understand why you would think otherwise.
warped also really strikes me as the type who would put in a lot of effort as scum.
like imperium
but hey.

[Gorkington]

I believe his behavioral premises are correct.

can you run this by me again but translated for someone dumb?

[Gorkington]

i agree.
i dont see why scum him couldnt be doing that as well though.

[Gorkington]

shes really clearly not.
and im hoping youre also not.
>:(

[Gorkington]

anen has three days to make me not say fuck it regarding him.

[Gorkington]

i would be more upset if anen was scum and we let him win to be honest.

[Gorkington]

how was ur day dgb?

[Gorkington]

im trying to lay a subtle trap.
whats your problem spiff

[Gorkington]

youre not good at telling when someone is playing dumb.
which is probably fair because i play dumb in general.

[Gorkington]

2 days is what you have.

[Gorkington]

until i start wanting to kill you to death for being unnotable despite being alive and lurking through this mess of a game.

[Gorkington]

you know five scum have flipped right?

[Gorkington]

why do you think theres four pruddites and only three repubs?

[Gorkington]

but kept a huge distance between him and the known Pruddites in general! Also, there was a post he wrote in to Imperium that "Imp should be more agressive." Oh, WTF?!

first part of this is a blatant lie.
second part of this is taking something horrendously out of context.
do you want to fight me anen?
because every scum thats done that this game has regretted it.

[Gorkington]

why are you entertaining idea of 4 pruddites but only 3 repubs?

[Gorkington]

also you ignoring actual points to focus on the buzzy part of what i was saying is annoying.

[Gorkington]

pruddites have stronger roles than whats flipped for repub. people have been speculating that repubs could have 4 players.
and it really isnt a strange reaction at all, as much as im starting to feel like you might want it to be.

[Gorkington]

im really having a hard time believing you actually believe anything youre saying right now.
please be reductive again in your next post.
i promise to vote you if you do.

[Gorkington]

like you literally quote posts which indicate information being presented which helps me come to the conclusion that i make in each post.
2nd quote i talk about role dynamics in the context of your role vs warpeds role.
3rd quote i talk about how i would actively want to lynch warped sooner than either you or jaqen which should be fucking obvious given my ISO at that point.
4th quote i remember the jailing on n2 and lack of kill from faction we're hunting for now.
5th quote is me being frustrated at your non-presence in this game.

if this is the best youve fucking got then bring it the fuck on.

[Gorkington]

i dislike that warped doesnt have scum-meta that i can look at.

[Gorkington]

The fact is you've done shittastic plays like that.

i still want to know what apparent shittastic plays ive done in the past.

[Gorkington]

lol.
okay yeah im not lynching jaqen.

[Gorkington]

anen you get one more day.
at 10pm tomorrow if the best you can do is throw shade at me for reasons that dont make any sense then im hardpushing you until youre dead and then if youre town you can feel really dumb for lurking until endgame and then distracting from last scum.
k?
k.

[Gorkington]

okay let me talk about the two greatest reasons ever for dgb being town.

Slobberknocker- was targeted by Imperium last night.

Is Imperium a scum killer or has he claimed something?

Then I should have had YOU targeting him, AND another player that killed, right?

Am I stupid?

YOU targeted as cop.

SOMEONE ELSE targeted him for the kill.

Is that not your theory?

I tend to believe Imperium but not as much as I would if this game wasn't multiball.

this progression is not one that scum makes.
scum doesnt get a guilty on another faction and then go "well, lets talk this out. maybe my results arent even really all that accurate to be honest."
it just reads as the opposite of opportunistic.

N3 I RB'd Bacde/Loran

"hi guys im voided and here is me literally forgetting that dgb replaced loran which is done so casually and indirectly it basically proves that me, as scum, can't be scummates with someone who i forgot was my scummate"

[Gorkington]

if I'm right he's try hard as scum or town so the work he's putting in means nothing to me

this is basically exactly what im feeling as well for the record.

[Gorkington]

spifffffffffffff.

[Gorkington]

articulate.
use real words.

[Gorkington]

im like 90% of the way to feeling like this game is solved by scum being in anen/warped.
just give me that little extra push to make me feel like youre clearly town pls.

[Gorkington]

whats the reasoning behind why town wouldnt have pruddite cop role?
because given whats flipped so far it wouldnt surprise me.

[Gorkington]

my cop was for a faction that doesnt exist.
pruddite has had stronger roles than repub so far:
modified roleblocker of sorts, pamphlet role & vig
VS
universal miller and 2-shot vanillaizer.
would make sense that there would be a cop thats meant to be dedicated to wiping up the stronger scumfaction to offset their power.

[Gorkington]

it would make sense.
i also think it would make sense for scum to have a role that helps them find a serial killer who can redirect their kills.

faction that i checked for was Weredickwolves.

[Gorkington]

so im looking for an easy lynch.
but youre currently trying to pitch four people as scum.
oobie doobie!
im just about ready to lamevote you!

[Gorkington]

who have i been implying that i want to vote for the last 2-3 days?

My intuition says, he's scum. But, the evidences are against my intuition.

His change on reading me and his reactions to my posts are scummy.
Not a good lynch, since there's no evidence that the Pruddite faction is still alive. (We must remember this if it turns out later that there's still a Pruddite.)

Warped

..
..He could be lynched.

DrippingGoofBall

..
..He could be lynched.

[Gorkington]

jaqen is pretty town.
him making up fake experiences with me with nothing to back it up would be absurd and super unlikely to do as scum.

[Gorkington]

he did lie though.
and then came clean about it.
tell me why scum goes "im gonna make up a thing that happened and not try to find some scenario to explain it later"
it just has a layer of thought thats so much more unlikely to come from scum.

[Gorkington]

like especially in that context.
"im gonna try to deflect against the guilty on my scummate by making up a thing that happened with Gork" is just so not a real thing that would ever happen.

[Gorkington]

OH HEY JAQEN NOT LIKE I EXPLAINED WHY DGB IS TOWN AND YOU IGNORED IT.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Gorkington]

oh hey im gonna ignore things that i dont even properly understand.
good call.
if you dont agree with it, argue with me.
ignoring my reasoning is annoying and frustrating especially when you ASKED ME to explain things.

[Gorkington]

i actually have vibes that anen might not be scum.
i read a completed scumgame of his and it was just so much more diplomatic than this.
:/

[Gorkington]

can people at least wait one more day so i have time to talk a little more.
i know this game is getting boring, but i can promise an actual argument with substance by tomorrow night at the very latest if we can hold this a little longer.

[Gorkington]

jaqen is town.

But then, I don't know what I expected from a town that lynched Bacde. From a town that was unable to lynch scum unless there were multiple guilities on them, and when scum had a guilty on them, let them live for three more days choosing instead to lynch obvtown. I wash my hands off of this loss. I have my vote on who I think is scum, do what you think is best. There are two votes on me and two on Anen. Scum is between Anen and Jaqen but all three of Anen/Jaqen/DGB are playing so badly, I have no idea.

is it that you dont want to lose to a town that you think is this terrible?

[Gorkington]

i dont know what to do

[Gorkington]

vote: anen

you convinced me gj.

[Gorkington]

theres always a votecount before a lynch.
and tptg writes up flavor for lynches so i imagine they would also do that for endgame.
heres hoping its over.
if not scum pls kill me.

[Gorkington]

i fucking hate your guts last scum.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

vote: warped

[Gorkington]

unvote

jaqen.
link a scumgame of yours.

[Gorkington]

warped.
im going to read jaqens meta.
i dont have that same luxury with you.
if youre a dick at me i wont play nice.

[Gorkington]

It should be obvious to anyone half-decent at this game.

i guess im just fucking bad then.

vote: warped

gg.
not changing votes.

[Gorkington]

you changed your fucking tune so hard from last cycle to this cycle.
suddenly im this antitown nightmare where last cycle you were trying so damn hard to placate me and push for compromise and reason.
if youre somehow town then whatever, i literally cant be fucked to care.
youre a prick.
you deserve to lose if youre town and being serious.

[Gorkington]

ive given so many fucking reasons why you have really good odds of being scum.
voided is attached at the hip with zzzx.
your supposed "protown push" on voided was after you forced an implynch through before him and when there was hard guilty evidence on both him and imp.
your entire reasoning behind you not being able to be scum at this point is that youve been playing protown, so fucking what. scum can play protown. you were so quick to jump all over me saying that spiff couldnt be conftown because of his protown play. why are you changing your tune now?
you know why though.
we both know why.
and if im wrong then whatever.
will have been the first townread that ive gotten wrong this game.

[Gorkington]

like seriously, you might as well push me as scum, because thats your best odds of not being lynched now.
this is me saying gnight folks.
i have no more patience for this game.
lynch me.
no lynch.
or lynch warped.
those are your options.
its all there for you to read.
i have nothing else to add.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

dammit. the tombstone generator lied to me.
imagine that with your name on it.
also imagine a creative insult and imagine im saying it at you.
also also die/selfvote now please?

[Gorkington]

fuck off.

[Gorkington]

next time you want to reason with someone, dont insult their intelligence.
for now though,
feel free to continue dying.

[Gorkington]

i seriously would have voted no lynch before you came in.
and then you were a fucking prick.
and now i want you to lose.
no matter which side youre on.
paint that as being as unreasonable as you want.
but youre still probably scum and on the off chance youre not i still would be happy if you lost.

[Gorkington]

Lol.
you were prepared to consider me as scum over dgb.
get the fuck out of here.

[Gorkington]

you are so fucking far from obvtown it pains me for you to even imply its true.
die.

[Gorkington]

everything about you just screams condescension.
which is absurd because you DROVE the anen mislynch yesterday.
if youre somehow actually fucking town.
and being a prick about me potentially being wrong about one read.
then youre an asshole.
but youre probably just scum so whatever!

p-edit: i love how you just continually dismiss valid points with bullshit.
i would literally love to ignore you but im fucking dumb and love to just take stupid arguments apart so here goes.
How
HOW HOW HOW are you implying that what VOIDED does
with regard to zzzx, your slot btw,
has anything to do, with whether zzzx was acting scummy or not?
and how does your behavior later somehow in some way completely counteract that point logically?

HOW ARE YOU EVEN OBVTOWN?
just because you pushed for imp in a convincing way which wouldnt be hard at all for scum on another team to do.
if blue scum was last scum.
maybe
MAYBE I COULD GET IT.
but last scum is red.
its fucking absurd that youd imply your push on voided was anywhere near comparable.
you were muted as fuck that entire push.
wooden.
unconvincing.
like a scummate who knows that voided is going to flip scum and isnt feeling any fire about it.

do tell.
how that makes you obvtown.
or how you posting big walls makes you obvtown.
and why you wouldnt do that as tryhard scum.
do tell.
id love to hear.
and by love to hear. i mean eat fucking rope you scumwad.

[Gorkington]

for the game? It's not (though stiffness is a good thing!)

for the rvs? So what?

as for you, I don't like your reaction.

Vote: ZZZX

oh hey, an awkward earlygame push.
and then after this push this scumread mysteriously disappears ooOoOOooo.

Yes, but I think there's bigger fish to fry. And Jaqen has other people to shoot before zzzx, imo.

hey looky here.

you haven't been reading very closely, zzzx

A few people aren't really reading closely this game.

OOOOOOOOO.

can we not vote ZZZX until this shit between DGB and Imp is finished? Even if ZZZX warrants death that's not a priority right now.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Gorkington]

look.
warped.
i get you have to go to weird places now.
you got to mylo.
you got so close to winning.
youre desperate for some angle thatll get you out of this.
but being a dick just was the wrong place to go.
because i have fucking drive where i didnt before.
i have the energy to want to make sure you die now.
sorry.
but you fucked up.

p-edit: except it isnt for no reason.
ive given reasons.
reasons that have been ignored.
everyone has ignored all of my reasons so fucking much this game.
now im going to get what i want and have wanted because im selfish and if people give me shit for that then
good.

[Gorkington]

right.
but youre obvtown though right?
right?
yeah.
i feel you.

[Gorkington]

like it was wrongly directed at imp when i was pushing them?
or voided?
or dramonic?
or wn?

i was wrong about xtoxm and vezok.
and i reactively thought anen might be scum for his push on me.
i also got townvibes from him though.

i havent got shit from you.
ive gotten townvibes from DGB.
youre implying youre obvtown when DGB is more obvtown.
jaqen has played in a way that would be playing actively against his win condition and has played at a level of thought that doesnt make sense for scum to play.
his interactions with titus were at least somewhat less likely to be coming from scummates.

your slot called titus scum during rvs and then convenient forgot about it.
got defended by voided.
and then made an incredibly wooden push on voided after it was 100% clear he was not going to make it through to the following day cycle.

this is a fucking easy decision for me.
no amount of shit talk from you will make me waver.

[Gorkington]

this entire cycle youve been trying to paint me as incompetent.
as a bumbling idiot.

"man gork is such a liability just fuckn get rid of that idiot before he ruins the game for town like a dumbass"

yeah no. you dont get to act like you dont know what youre doing.

[Gorkington]

and to act like my "guilty" on titus was just a guilty and not strongly fucking based on my read on her is just horseshit and you know it.

[Gorkington]

only trouble is that blue team now has a flipped cop against them.
so red team is weaker than blue team.
therefore jaqens role is too strong to be scum.
and youre still scum.

just lay down and accept it.
its over.

[Gorkington]

like, you say what does jaqen do thats against his wincon and then immediately after say this:

Where has Jaqen done anything actively against his wincon? Jaqen pushed against the Titus lynch and called you scum because he thought a crazy play would fly as scum and if he saved Titus, that's a bonus.

like you actually believe thats the obvious thing to have happened and that jaqen wouldnt have been making himself look super fucking bad by doing that as scum.

you clearly dont understand what the term obvtown means.
because the way youre using the term implies that scum cant try in a game of mafia.

[Gorkington]

i got a false positive on titus.
is what happened.

your role is still probably just an SK hunter for scum though.

p-edit: and that hes stubborn.
in ways that scum would probably be too afraid to be.

[Gorkington]

he was a modified roleblocker.
the one who targeted spiff.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

*flops*

[Gorkington]

viola vale.
commune dick seeing seer.
my ancestor got castrated.
now i can sense whether people are weredickwolves.

[Gorkington]

thats what he claimed?

[Gorkington]

why the rush?

[Gorkington]

jaqen.
if anen had a guilty.
and didnt just OPENLY say it.
he would have to be the biggest idiot.
ever.
and i dont think hes the biggest idiot ever.
so.
can you just stop.
please.

[Gorkington]

how about you dont tell me anything?

[Gorkington]

lol.

[Gorkington]

are you actually falcon?
i take it back.
tammy was super justified in thinking you were a toxic POS.

[Gorkington]

just stop talking to me and let me process this fucking game in my own terms instead of being a jackass.
youre in a rather comfortable position.
youre either town who has two easy conftowns
or scum.
its obviously fucking easy for you to say "warped isnt scum and jaqen isnt"
but it isnt that obvious to me.
and maybe im wrong.
but i dont deserve to be chided like a fucking baby just because youre posting a lot and acting like that makes you obvtown.
just stop talking.
seriously.

[Gorkington]

like seriously.
"WHY ARE YOU THROWING THE GAME"
"i want to think things through for a bit why the rush?"
"WHY ARE YOU THROWING THE GAME WHY ARE YOU THROWING THE GAME WHY ARE YOU THROWING THE GAME"
and you wonder why jaqen isnt cut and dry scum.

[Gorkington]

my vote is functionally useless right now.
dgb isnt going to vote you as it stands.

[Gorkington]

tell me why.
anen fakeclaims.
and sustains that fakeclaim as he dies.
why would he do that.
do tell.
why does my brain hurt.

[Gorkington]

if he had information that could literally win us the game.
why would he withhold it.
-.-
if there were 6 people left and 3 scum alive, we would have been fucked anyway.
-.-

[Gorkington]

you know what i did with a guilty when i got it?
i didnt vote someone else.
you know.
that thing that anen did.

[Gorkington]

why did he vote for someone he didnt have a guilty on.

[Gorkington]

i would sooner selfvote out of frustration than vote for dgb.

[Gorkington]

you know what makes people reconsider reads on someone?
a guilty.
you know what anen didnt have? a guilty on dgb.

[Gorkington]

oh good.
now both jaqen and warped have used shitty nka scumtells.

[Gorkington]

but jaqen.
why would warped kill dramonic when he would have kept hardpushing you!?oone!one!

[Gorkington]

and where were you when anen was doing all of those things that youre defending yourself with now?

[Gorkington]

and what exactly happened to the "guilty" on dgb?

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

unvote

[Gorkington]

i dont disagree that warped is sketch.
im seriously weirded out that you went from calling dgb guiltied scum to giving her the chance to hammer just because of one post from warped when hes been posting shit like that all cycle.

[Gorkington]

right because lurking has been such a great indicator of scumminess this game.

[Gorkington]

tell me why scumdgb throws away the warped lynch in favor of a harder sell on you.
jk dont.
im being rhetorical to try to make you stop making this push.

[Gorkington]

const was a townread of your's?
really?
also i still really fail to see how its "full tilt red scum".
voided tried to push dgb as scum.
and forgot who she replaced. and it wasnt done in a way that was intentional.

and dgb could have hardpushed imp as scum when she had a guilty on them for towncred and didnt.
so.
yeah.
this is me saying if you want to be substantive, be fucking damn substantive and clear.
because i havent seen shit thats made me question dgb as town in a long time in this game.

[Gorkington]

youre complaining about no one listening to you.
like thats the reason youre abandoning the dgb push.
this is me saying im listening.
use actually convincing reasons.
convince me that you actually believe dgb is scum.

[Gorkington]

i forgot about who everyone replaced when i went back to do vca.
wouldnt shock me that voided would also do the same (especially only if him and dgb werent on the same team).
and btw the slip happened when he was giving the names of people he targeted.. not exactly in a place that's particularly showy if you want to fake a slip.
and voided wasnt really in a place that i think he would be aiming to go for a fakeout slip like that.
nor do i think hes the kind of player to orchestrate something like that.
but hey.

That whole episode looked fake as shit to me.

really?
so you think loran and voided were actually best buds? because i would really easily believe someone disliking NJ/Loran that much based on my experiences with him.
and i dont think scumvoided would shit all over loran if they were scummates so much as just ignore him.
i think he used genuine feelings of anger towards loran to generate content.
that seems more plausible to me than "VOIDED AND LORAN PLANNED THE WHOLE THING OUT NYEH HEHE"

[Gorkington]

you generally dont talk much in those posts.

[Gorkington]

which isnt the end of the world.
but like.
yeah i would appreciate a stronger obvtown presence from you in general right around now

[Gorkington]

g4u.

[Gorkington]

i think its forgettable when the time between event A and event B is a month in a game this dense.

[Gorkington]

and hed already gotten what he wanted.
loran out of the game.
though i do think its plausible voided also may have been milking that interaction as scum to fake content anyways.
so.
basically i think you have to do a lot of hard work and turn your head the other way on a lot of evidence to say "dgb has the best chance for flipping scum right now".

[Gorkington]

i dont disagree that jaqen doing that is scummy.
i also can still see you being scum here so alas, we are still at an unfortunate impasse where you have to let me think and try to figure things out.

[Gorkington]

do you remember who got lynched on d3?

[Gorkington]

i guess theres also this dilemma ive been running through in my head.
where, redscum shot fresh.
does scumjaqen give up his neighborhood kill just to get rid of fresh?

[Gorkington]

wait nvm thats dumb.
wn redirected scum to fresh.
:/

[Gorkington]

grats.
i had to look at front page to remember.
brb while i be froth at the mouth at people who think human error is plausibly less likely than EVIL BIG SCUM MANIPULATION OooOoOOooo.

[Gorkington]

no.
im not.
im talking about how jaqen seems to think its impossible that someone could forget who someone replaced in the game.
which i think is pretty ridiculous.

[Gorkington]

looks more opportunistic townwagonjumping to me.
if i were scum i would be scared to get off of my scummate to join a mislynch because of how bad it would look.

[Gorkington]

oh hey its my scumday.
happy year of suffering to me.

[Gorkington]

i will be proud of how i played this game even if i lose.
despite how much of a trainwreck ive felt from start to finish.

[Gorkington]

i might go read farsides iso.
just because her reads are probably worth sheeping and i want to read someone say things that make sense.

[Gorkington]

aight i get i set the precedence for the tone of this game.
but lets stop calling people scumfuck.
as much as it is fun to say it, i just would rather the last few days of this game boil down to logic/reasoning over emotion.
and i know thats two-faced of me but lol im crazy deal with it.

[Gorkington]

reading meta,
ycba:
i feel like jaqen is the kind of player that is most comfortable semi-bussing scummates without ever actually following through unless its super clear that theyre going to die.
which kind of lines up with some of his play here.
it seems like he also likes to line up lynches.
"if elyse is scum then these people deserve attention"
when elyse was his scummate in YCBA.
gonna see if he ever did that with titus before she flipped.
this post is alarming:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6702723
basically when someone calls out elyse and massive, he calls them scum, despite later saying that elyse is scummy.
the vote on i am innocent seems reactionary to his post talking about elyse and massive too, and he almost tries to disguise it, which i guess is a little different than here, but still. it shows he isnt afraid to throw his weight around to try and defend scummates and with 3-person scumteams in a game this big i can see even more incentive to be aggressive with shutting down wagons on your teammates.
hehhhh.
he also does a fake vig.
:/
im really starting to feel like that whole "two neighborhoods in one game is impossible!" thing was bullshit.
oh hey

If Titus is scum, you're probably scum with them seeing she's fucked and looking for an easy way on.

hey look.

good.
i have to actually weigh jaqens scum meta against zzzx's wonky as heck interactions with titus and voided.
zzzzzz.

[Gorkington]

i dont know if im seeing much of what warped refers to as "jaqen purposefully playing stupidly to get townread" though.
would like references to that if hes actually seen that.

[Gorkington]

his attacks on "Here There be Dragons" had lots of conviction. Just read his first ten posts or so.

i cant find where, but i could have sworn you said something along the lines of "i saw jaqen playing in an intentionally stupid way in his linked games".
i feel like him having a lot of conviction doesnt really encompass that, no?

[Gorkington]

I CANT FIND IT :C

[Gorkington]

I read through his ISOs in the games he linked. That's pretty much how he played as scum.

i think i read this and thought you meant something else at the time.
sadface.

[Gorkington]

ive seen a scumgame of hers.
i thought she was scummier there and more disjointed than she's playing here.
also seems like shes trying a little harder than she did in that game though too so *shrug*.

[Gorkington]

yeah i think its pretty clear dgb isnt worried about me hammering.
she wants to hear jaqen say some stuff before he potentially gets lynched.

[Gorkington]

except i have a really good track record of reading her.

[Gorkington]

and titus doesnt awkwardly reach out to people in the same way as town.
awkwardly being the key word.

[Gorkington]

it does matter though, because i feel its a valid tell and you dismissed it and are still dismissing it.

[Gorkington]

like, it feels like youre overreaching to try and justify you defending titus.
i feel like you should know how bad it looks and take a step back from "oh man titus is like that every game" because it looks like youre trying to force your behavior on d1 seeming natural way too hard.

[Gorkington]

youre sounding awfully fake right now.
also you saying you helped titus get lynched is a load of shit.

[Gorkington]

also, seriously.
if one more nonobvtown person calls themself obvtown im gonna scream.
stop.

[Gorkington]

jaqen.
youre seriously implying.
your contributions between d1 and d2.
were a net boon to titus being lynched.
because if you are.
i'll vote you.
right here and now.

[Gorkington]

vote: jaqen

[Gorkington]

ive had enough.

[Gorkington]

hammer pls.

[Gorkington]

give me my scumday present of a hammer pls.

[Gorkington]

or jaqen you could selfhammer.
thatd be nice of you.

[Gorkington]

yeah sorry.
i had enough of this shtick from warped.
its tired coming from you.
you can die now.

[Gorkington]

"man vote however you want idc"
"jk i actually care"
whatever jaqen.
warped outplayed you and dgb outplayed you.
thats what its come down to.
if youre scum you got outplayed.
if youre town you got outplayed.

there are plenty of reasons youre scummy and where warped at least admitted there was some validity there, youre just actively playing dumb and it just makes me feel like youve been fucking with me for a long time.

i could be wrong.
i just dont really care that much anymore about worrying about it.

[Gorkington]

and if either warped or dgb is scum then they outplayed me too.
i accept that.

but im super not okay with you trying to imply that your play this game doesnt reek of your scum-meta.
and excusing it based on you always playing that way is bullshit because town-meta and scum-meta are independent.

[Gorkington]

BUT JAQEN THIS GAME IS FULL OF THINGS THAT SEEM LIKE YOUR TOWNGAME THOUGH.
IM JUST THROWING THE GAME.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
seriously so fucking tired of having the weight of the game thrown on my shoulders.

p-edit: YOU HAVING PLAYS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO YOUR SCUMGAME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TOWNGAME.
ARE YOU DAFT.
YOU BEING WILLING TO DEFEND SCUMMATES HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU WOULD PLAY AS TOWN.
GOD.
IM SO TIRED OF THIS GAME JUST FLIP ALREADY.

[Gorkington]

also youre lying because you were town in the only game ive played with you.
so theres that too
weeeeeeeeeee.

[Gorkington]

"GUYS I HAVE A MEMORY OF GOLD I REMEMBER EVERYTHING"
yeah right.
fucking die scum.

[Gorkington]

right.

[Gorkington]

but jaqen.
remember?
you said you never forget anything to call dgb scum.
how could you possibly forget that you were town in the only game youve played with me?
is it because youve been talking hot air this whole time?

[Gorkington]

no rush or anything dgb.
but like.
make it a good hammer pls.

[Gorkington]

ooooo could we all like coordinate our votes and do a shared hammer or something.
that could be fun.

[Gorkington]

this is arguably the funnest thing thats happened in this game for fucking so long lol.

[Gorkington]

nothing about how youre a filthy liar jaqen?
;D

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

but jaqen.
you were deathtunneling my slot in that game.
DOES THAT NOT
SOUND
FAMILIAR.
DUN DUN DUNNN.

[Gorkington]

oh yeah totally.
thats what happened in that game.
didnt you force bins to claim and then still not believe that claim?

[Gorkington]

Bins is condemned by Gorkington. A man would be possibly reading the slot differently if it were being just Bins. Then again, perhaps not as that one's incessant whining about "tell me why Jaqen" even though a man is posting not once, but twice, his exact reasons for such dislike for the slot. If Gork hadn't happened, that whine is probably absent so, meh. But Gorkington is happening and is killing the slot that one's scummiest 'I don't have time for this game even though I'm posting almost constantly and have the highest post count at the time after hoops being jumped through so I could play' replacing out.

oh wow yeah!
totally townreading!

[Gorkington]

you are totally being a real person!

[Gorkington]

LOL
LOLOLOLLLL
HOW COULD YOU FORGET WHO SOMEONE REPLACED.
LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Gorkington]

i have tears in my eyes.

[Gorkington]

right.

[Gorkington]

to be fair i more just find it hilarious than scummy.
i think you voting me is hilarious and scummy though!

[Gorkington]

BUT DGB.
ITS IMPERATIVE.
THAT YOU DO.

[Gorkington]

OR ELSE UR SCUM.

[Gorkington]

big thank you to warped for making me worried by not being here right now.

p-edit: right.
because thats why you voted me.

[Gorkington]

right.
so your quantification of me being scummy is
that im tired of this game.
and that i found something really funny.

i totally believe you flipping your read on me completely just because of that!
wow!

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

were you scum warped?

[Gorkington]

its okay.
im a piece of shit.


also i'll hate either of you if youre fucking with me.

[Gorkington]

im not gonna believe it until the flip happens lol.

[Gorkington]

i'll be really sad at myself for ignoring so many people calling jaqen scummy all game if we did win
he really hit a blindspot on my scumdar if so

[Gorkington]

only thing im scared of is the fact that i dont know where dgb got those results on imp from

[Gorkington]

but does it make sense for jaqen to have that role on top of his vig things?

[Gorkington]

im still proud of my play/reads overall this game.
even if i got carried to mylo on a bad read. q.q

im sad we missed the reused fakeclaim, but also not really surprised.
this game is dense.
which is partially my fault, but i mean.

gg to warped and dgb for carrying me at the end there you both played really well. and realistically im at least twice the dick you are warped, i was just frustrated at the idea of losing after all that time.

[Gorkington]

also wtf imp.
the results were from you?
you crazy crazy person you.

[Gorkington]

it almost made red team win.
is what it did.

[Gorkington]

i liked the sk redirector.
definitely a huge mistake for them to claim though.
even if i would have hardpushed them for lynch for that flubber kill anyways.

[Gorkington]

why did you guys kill flubber anyway?

[Gorkington]

what a jerk.

[Gorkington]

i like how i "caught" scum and basically drew both of the "fuck with townPR" scumPRs on N2 with a fake ability lolololol.

[Gorkington]

rule #1:
jaqen isnt allowed to play.
;D

[Gorkington]

where dem scumchats at.

[Gorkington]

Im cool with killing gorkington, but he's gonna think it's because I think he's intelligent, which is unfortunate.

lmao.