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There's probably a color miller or color godfather, because otherwise everyone who flips Everton would be confirmed town and everyone who flips red confirmed scum.
And probably an SK with a third color just based on the wording of the rules. But we'll worry about that later if there's evidence to worry about it.
Anyway, if there's scum on my wagon it's VOTE: lilith"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 60, Fro99er wrote:There's probably a color miller or color godfather, because otherwise everyone who flips Everton would be confirmed town and everyone who flipsconfirmed scum.Liverpool
And probably an SK with a third color just based on the wording of the rules. But we'll worry about that later if there's evidence to worry about it.
Anyway, if there's scum on my wagon it's VOTE: lilith
EBWOP"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 77, Spiffeh wrote:It looks like he noticed a wagon forming and was like "Oh I better do something"
No. I noticed a wagon forming and went "lol"
then Aero moved his voteoffme and I talked to AA about colorstuffs"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 70, Spiffeh wrote:Now that I think about it would it be more beneficial to reveal the color of people we find hard to read (like a lurker)?
This sounds like a reason to move off me, get a color flip somewhere else, then push me after the color flip.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 86, Spiffeh wrote:Froggy why lilith out of everyone else on your wagon?
Marquis has reason, they know my town meta and I haven't done anything townie.
Aero is obvtown
I'm pretty sure you're town.
Mario is being mario.
Lilith looked like she wanted to fit in with both of her opening posts."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 88, Fro99er wrote:I'm pretty sure you're town.
Should say "was" pretty sure at the time you were town.
Your post setting me up didn't sit right."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 90, Spiffeh wrote:Froggy sorry you drew scum this game
Not even going to respond to my comments.
Just going to say "I'm scum" 100x over.
Cool."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 34, Spiffeh wrote:I know he said he was going easier in this game but that doesn't mean I'm ok with him making two joke posts and leaving without even RVSing, especially with this playerlist.
Spiff knows I said this in pre-game
In post 26, Fro99er wrote:Warning, if I do play,, regardless of alignment...so don't use that to scumread me. I've gotten too worked up over this game lately.I WILL be playing a different, more calm, less active playstyle
Which does not reconcile with this below, knowing I said what I said above in the sign-up thread.
In post 34, Spiffeh wrote:The Froggy I know would come in guns blazing."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 94, lilith2013 wrote:That contradicts what you said about Marquis' vote on you being because of meta. If Spiffeh scumreading you for not following your town meta is invalid, then why is Marquis doing the same thing valid?
It's not a contradiction at all.
Spiffeh is scumreading me DESPITE knowing I wasn't going to play to my meta.
Marquis made no indication he knew I wasn't going to play to my meta."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 96, Davsto wrote:If we 100% think someone is scum, don't bother wasting a colour flip on them.
Colour flips are for people we're unsure of.
Think of it as a public Cop - if everyone knows X is scum, is there really any point in inspecting them? Because if you're right, you've basically just wasted it.
Davsto doesn't want me color flipped either. We're never 100% sure someone is scum unless we have a guilty. There are no guilties D1.
VOTE: Davsto"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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@Spiff - So what is your specific reason for scum reading me? That I joked around in RVS? That my first content was about colors?
Also, Davsto and Acryon worry me."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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I feel like at least one of Davsto or Acryon knows my alignment and wants town cred for my blue flip.
Just need to figure out which one/both. Right now Davsto bothers me the most (hence my vote)"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 125, Spiffeh wrote:Then you used my paint mechanic brainstorming against me.
And I used it against Davsto too."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 125, Spiffeh wrote:I feel like you should know I'm town by now.
Um. Hello. That's why I said Iwastown reading you.
Doesn't mean I'm 100% convinced yet. Remember my paranoia about you in MAFIACEPTION?"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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So that means I shouldknowyou are town here?"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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Anyway - I'm getting sucked back into my old playstyle - which I was mainly doing to not piss people off and to see how people reacted to my pre game plan. I only joined because of the playerlist, because otherwise I'm pretty sick of playing mafia right now (not modding...I love modding).
At least I haven't pissed anyone off yet.
Time to go back to my pregame intended playstyle."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 135, Davsto wrote:Great. It's not like I'm attacking a hugely stupid and flawed argument. No, make sure it's the option that makes me look bad
No, you look bad for a lot of reasons."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 138, Davsto wrote:I mean, explain the others because I struggle to see how you find things that I haven't done scummy.
Let's see
(puts on Raven's voice from Teen Titans when she's about to rattle off a list):
- Your RVS vote sucked because we were already out of RVS at that point
- Your reasoning for wanting a color flip was dumb because there's no way we can be 100% sure someone is scum, especially on D1.
- You hadn't done any scumhunting so I told you to scum hunt
- Your then reacted with a vote on spiffeh
- That vote on Spiffeh was trash
- Your post 108 sheeped my reasoning in 98
- You are chainsawing defending me
- You are willing to give me a free pass (110), which is ridiculous. Even if I change my playstyle there's ways to tell if I'm scum or town by my motivations.
- Your continued explanation in 136 is still harping on the playstyle point when Spiffeh has clearly said he's scum reading me for more than just my changed playstyle.
That about sums it up Mr. Liverpool"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 140, Fro99er wrote:In post 138, Davsto wrote:I mean, explain the others because I struggle to see how you find things that I haven't done scummy.
Let's see
(puts on Raven's voice from Teen Titans when she's about to rattle off a list):
- Your RVS vote sucked because we were already out of RVS at that point
- Your reasoning for wanting a color flip was dumb because there's no way we can be 100% sure someone is scum, especially on D1.
- You hadn't done any scumhunting so I told you to scum hunt
- Your then reacted with a vote on spiffeh
- That vote on Spiffeh was trash
- Your post 108 sheeped my reasoning in 98
- You are chainsawing defending me
- You are willing to give me a free pass (110), which is ridiculous. Even if I change my playstyle there's ways to tell if I'm scum or town by my motivations.
- Your continued explanation in 136 is still harping on the playstyle point when Spiffeh has clearly said he's scum reading me for more than just my changed playstyle.
That about sums it up Mr. Liverpool
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In post 144, Davsto wrote:Isn't the whole point of chainsaw defending that it's one-scum-protected-other-scum?
I thought it meant you were attacking my attacker.
Didn't realize it had to do with alignments.
Chang it to "you are defending me by attacking my attacker""I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 144, Davsto wrote:I've read the two posts side-by-side and I call bullshit on this one, put the wrong numbers?
93, not 98"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 149, Davsto wrote:I mean... two people having similar thought processes doesn't like auto-prevent them from both being town, does it?
No, but literally your whole ISO is about Spiffeh/Me thing aside from your RVS vote. I don't actually feel like we have similar thought process at all."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 125, Spiffeh wrote:In post 121, Fro99er wrote:@Spiff - So what is your specific reason for scum reading me?That I joked around in RVS?That my first content was about colors?
That's what it was at first.
Then I feel like you were reluctant to call me town when I feel like you should know I'm town by now.
Then you used my paint mechanic brainstorming against me.
And here we are.
4 reasons colored in."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 157, Davsto wrote:Explain how him providing more reasoning than that somehow nullifies Spiffeh's push regarding that whole playstyle thing being awful and scummy.
Because Spiffeh's push regarding that whole playstyle thing was awful and scummy.
Because your whole case is he hasn't done anything else except that, and I'm showing he has.
That reasoning may be awful, but awful doesn't necessarily equal scummy.
I'm undecided on spiff. His early game was very reminiscent of his town game which is why I initially townread him."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend-
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In post 163, Davsto wrote:I don't think I ever said anything about it being "his whole case was that".
In post 144, Davsto wrote:I'm fairly surehis only reasonfor scumreading you he's said is that you did a few non-game-relevant posts earlygame."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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Things"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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In post 167, Davsto wrote:"Fairly sure his only reason" =/= "my entire case hinges on that being his only reason". I stand corrected on the first part by my case is still valid.
Starting to.In post 165, ChaosOmega wrote:Davsto, do you think Fro99er is scummy?
Then vote me."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 165, ChaosOmega wrote:Fro99er, do you think it is a better idea to color flip someone more likely to be low activity and lynch Davsto as opposed to color flipping Davsto?
I think we should be trying to find red flips.
IF we think someone is scummy and they flip blue, that's all the better for us."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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BEocause it lets us probably clear a scummy read, and if they flip red, we've almost surely caught scum barring a color miller, which I don't think we have since nobody has claimed it."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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I kinda wanted to piss ika off to get a read of him.
It was said silver would be doing the legwork which read like an excuse for scum ika to lurk.
Also silver said I look like town frog earlier which was odd because she's never played with town frog."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 182, Anxiety Attack wrote:In post 181, Anxiety Attack wrote:This is why shes amazing!
<3
Frogger knows better than to scumread me and not elaborate.
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I do?
From where?"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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There is literally zero need for language like this"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 191, Anxiety Attack wrote:and theres 0 reasons for you to try to piss us off and withold reasons
I already said it would help me get a read on you"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 193, Anxiety Attack wrote:frogger-You played with me in NY188 when I was town, it wasn't long ago, so don't lie
Also, I want your color flipped or flip ours, one of us gets flipped today!!
~SW
Yes and in NY 188 I was scum so I didn't have to read you."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 191, Anxiety Attack wrote:and theres 0 reasons for you to try to piss us off and withold reasons.
Yes there was, I already said it was to get a read on you"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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Lol what?
I have zero desire to get flipped"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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No the type of pissing off I'm talking about is people throwing Vitriolic hate and names around. I never once called anybody a name or said anything mean to anyone in this thread."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 200, Anxiety Attack wrote:But you realize that trying to piss me off wont work now?
No, I didn't realize that. If I had realized it do you think I would've done it?"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 207, ChaosOmega wrote:
Point taken. Misremembered something from your ISO. I was thinking of your 79, but that's more resignment than anything. And your 62 pretty much closes that.
So was your push on AA in 162 solely to goad a reaction out of the slot or do you have actual reasons as well?
I gave reasons why they worried me after seeing the reaction. Withholding my reasons was to get the reaction.
The reaction makes me think they are town."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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In post 209, Anxiety Attack wrote:Your goading is not necessary. You should easily be able to figure us out wout that.
Maybe not.
I'm trying something different with my playstyle and I've seen town do the goading thing elsewhere. I'll talk more about it post game."I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
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This kinda sounds like he knows I'm blue.
And his point was wrong (as he admitted) yet hasn't reconsidered his read on me"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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