Paint Mafia! - Game Over!

[Marquis]

VOTE: frogger

role pm practically confirms him as scum

[Marquis]

DGB why is Frogger town? (He's not!)

[Marquis]

The Froggy I know would come in guns blazing.

I know he said he was going easier in this game but that doesn't mean I'm ok with him making two joke posts and leaving without even RVSing, especially with this playerlist.

ahaha

haha

VOTE: Spiffeh

but he's right

[Marquis]

i didn't see that but tell me why it's enough for you to not only give him a free pass but basically chainsaw people voting him

[Marquis]

i keep forgetting this phase is just about revealing a color.

would very much like to do that on one of the more unreadable players.

VOTE: dgb

[Marquis]

sorry, i mean

VOTE: t s o

[Marquis]

i keep forgetting this phase is just about revealing a color.

would very much like to do that on one of the more unreadable players.

VOTE: dgb

sorry, i mean

VOTE: t s o

you guys can we please reveal tso because he is extremely unreadable

[Marquis]

and also somewhat of a threat if scum

[Marquis]

frogger is very readable why are people wasting their time on him

[Marquis]

it's essentially a daycop.

the main colors are essentially standard except for the minor possibility of a blue scum in the same way there's always a possibility of a scum godfather. i'd likely expect certain town roles to be neither blue nor red.

it should go without saying that if any town is red, they need to claim it now as one would if they were a miller in a normal game.

given all this i want to daycop TSO.

[Marquis]

pre-edit: Color millers or any town role that can change color or is not blue should claim ASAP

ika seems to think its possible there's a scum role that can change a person's color for balance reasons, but it's just a guess.

~SW

disagree. outing town that are both non-blue and non-red would be akin to PR-outing here imo.

if there's scum that can change another player's color, they'll be informed or this game would become bastard.

[Marquis]

I kinda feel it's wasted on me? I know other people would like to see me flip blue, but I'd rather just verify myself by lynching scum.

sorry that kind of rhetoric doesn't work. you're not consistently accurate enough to avoid it on word alone.

also, noticing you've sigged me.

[Marquis]

No, I mean if you are town and not blue it doesn't mean you are a PR unless I'm missing something? I mean a color miller most likely.

~SW

as i said we should limit any non-blue claims right now to those that are red, which we know are actually color millers given the public info. other colors may be certain prs or red herrings.

first post wording suggests a sk too btw. but not a priority besides basic hunting.

desire to flip tso's color increasing.

[Marquis]

I kinda feel it's wasted on me? I know other people would like to see me flip blue, but I'd rather just verify myself by lynching scum.

like this is such a undeliverable platitude-ish reason to not flip him. like it feels so slimy like some american politician or something.

[Marquis]

but when you are off, which isn't that unlikely in my experience, it's difficult for most to tell if you're just overconfident town or, as the quote you've put in your signature refers to, scum unafraid to stay at the forefront of continuous mislynches.

[Marquis]

oooh frogger are you really scum this time. hmm.

[Marquis]

hey aristo vote TSO because flip him

prod dodge until TSO just gets flipped because if anyone seriously thinks lilith and Davsto are more unreadable or more of a threat if scum (sorry guys but yeah) then please... just no

[Marquis]

would really prefer if we just got the reveal over with because i'd rather we spent more of our 14 total days with post-reveal info (this phase eats into our total 14, remember, so if we get a hammer down in the next 4 hours we'll have max 8 and a half days to actually go for a good lynch)

[Marquis]

now i can sleep comfortably at night.

going to look at the reasons for wagon sheepers because i remember at least one given reason felt really overly padded, when the actual point of it was just to reveal a color and not lynch someone

[Marquis]

tammy talk at me pls

[Marquis]

VOTE: bbt feels right for the page.

more tomorrow.

[Marquis]

goddamn apathy is killlling my desire to play Mafia.

me too! goodnight

[Marquis]

actually i see bbt was on l-2 last vc. the quick pileup of votes after mine concerns me (and the same thing happened right after my tso flip post) but tbh i'm "not satisfied" with bbt enough to be okay with that lynch

he actually reminds me of scum bbt from space invaders is what i meant to say earlier but forgot it was already over so i can mention it

[Marquis]

i always get an easy ride as scum :/

that's ok though. i'm town enough for now!

[Marquis]

Can we lynch Tammy hydra?

you're town and i'd do that now if i didn't just want to go ahead with a bbt lynch now

[Marquis]

*treads water*

[Marquis]

what do we even lose by not hammering

[Marquis]

what do we even lose by not hammering

Eh I guess the opportunity for someone to say something they were intending on saying today but may not get a chance to if they get NK'd.

not interested tbh unless another day role or something

[Marquis]

VOTE: awesome

yay for finally lynching scum tammy maybe maybe

[Marquis]

when i remember the color flip mechanic i kind of want to lynch bbt agin and color flip awesome because if tammy is town and just needs a chance to get going that'd be... awesome

but momentum and i want to end toDay very very soon

[Marquis]

VOTE: BBT

Guys please please please go back to this. We can color flip Tammy tomorrow if things work out. But right now no no no.

[Marquis]

BBT is a useless slot and BBT has recently been feeling very demoralized as scum - I'm sorry to use my knowledge of that as a mod if he's scum but he's already multiple times over stayed he's given up in ways that could very well be a scum Day end reaction and, again, I'm playing to lynch scum.

I know that may not have made sense. But BBT objectively is the superior lynch right now and if you don't see it, instead of trying to argue with that, just please trust me on it .

[Marquis]

Ugggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

Spiffeh if you're town you will vote BBT with me. This page. Please. I really don't want to have to reach out about this again.

PEDIT thank.

[Marquis]

awesome needs to be vigged if we have one

i'm scumreading esp but townreading tammy. don't ask how that's possible given the lack of anything from the former but it's a massive grey area that i want to flesh out day 2 if we're both still around.

[Marquis]

ika hammer

[Marquis]

i read what you said but hammer

[Marquis]

actually wait no don't we should be able to hear more without harm.

[Marquis]

VOTE: DGB

please guys

trust me again

[Marquis]

[reasons]

[Marquis]

you're right!

people agreeing with me so readily here isn't very inspiring.

UNVOTE:

davsto you're town and you have my support here. make a choice

[Marquis]

:|

So much for strong ~reasons~, pls trust me on this guiz

I dont like it, and iirc from our times in games together I cant put it past scum marquis to do so

I didn't really have any ~reasons~ for lynching BBT over Awesome other than that I had a fresh but strong preliminary townread on Tammy's defense and knew the momentum would keep shifting toward her unless I softed some day result or role info in her favor.

DGB flip is similar to my original desired TSO flip. I don't like its wagon at all though. So right now I'm at wanting to flip one of {West9, lilith, Aristo}. Preference majorly West.

VOTE: West

[Marquis]

ngh

[Marquis]

I'd actually be okay with a mario color flip with where my read on him is at right now.

[Marquis]

i actually don't want to flip mario now because i'd rather use it on someone who'd be more of a benefit as conftown or not just a lurker if scum or someone we'd lynch or not be able to listen to anyway

did that make sense

in this way i don't think flipping mario would be helpful because i think it's more likely a town flip and flipping the awesome/esp slot wouldn't be very satisfying with no guarantee that a good replacement would be in. plus i was townreading tammy

gimme a sec to look at the bbt wagon rotation again.

[Marquis]

BlueBloodedToffee [4] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto
BlueBloodedToffee [7] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Marquis, Aristophanes
BlueBloodedToffee [7] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Marquis, Aristophanes
BlueBloodedToffee [6] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4
BlueBloodedToffee [8] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4, Marquis, Spiffeh
BlueBloodedToffee [9] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4, Marquis, Spiffeh, Anxiety Attack

This wasn't really indicative of much, so I looked at the other wagons as BBT gained traction and West9 was voting DGB nearly all day, a lone useless vote without doing anything really significant to support it, until later on, when joining the Awesome counterwagon literally right after it got to this point -

BlueBloodedToffee [6] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4
Awesome [5] - T S O, Anxiety Attack, pisskop, Marquis, Spiffeh

- and avoiding the BBT lynch looked feasible. He made one other post that Day, and jumped right back in with a DGB vote at the start of Day 2 as if nothing had changed at all when a wagon he'd largely ignored flipped scum.

VOTE: West9

I want to be here again because I think that's a scum pattern of behavior.

[Marquis]

I odnt think flipping awesome would fit that bill. Theyre too lurky here.

Tammy's been lurky as town often recently, and Esp too. I don't blame Tammy for not catching up either because I was lost for a good point until my irl schedule cleared completely for a day or two.

[Marquis]

Elbirn vote West9.

[Marquis]

1110

[Marquis]

ignore above, see below:

1100

[Marquis]

oh, the VC was edited in after West's post - the point still stands with a influx of Awesome votes prior

[Marquis]

as of 1474 quite possibly yes

[Marquis]

his previous "no." post in iso was pretty good too

so anyway are you townreading west9 or are you bandwagoning another non scum wagon again?

[Marquis]

yeah that's too far off the line for comfort now. elbirn for partner. yay

[Marquis]

nobody's listening to anyone

[Marquis]

whyyyy

west or elbirn pls

i don't even think any of you have strong townreads there so idgi

[Marquis]

why do you always have the same shtick this game :/

you ask so many empty questions that have already been answered or aren't that meaningful and like. i don't feel like we're getting anything original from you

[Marquis]

BlueBloodedToffee [4] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto
BlueBloodedToffee [7] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Marquis, Aristophanes
BlueBloodedToffee [7] - RadiantCowbells, Anxiety Attack, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Marquis, Aristophanes
BlueBloodedToffee [6] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4
BlueBloodedToffee [8] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4, Marquis, Spiffeh
BlueBloodedToffee [9] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4, Marquis, Spiffeh, Anxiety Attack

This wasn't really indicative of much, so I looked at the other wagons as BBT gained traction and West9 was voting DGB nearly all day, a lone useless vote without doing anything really significant to support it, until later on, when joining the Awesome counterwagon literally right after it got to this point -

BlueBloodedToffee [6] - RadiantCowbells, DrippingGoofball, Davsto, hiplop, Aristophanes, MarioManiac4
Awesome [5] - T S O, Anxiety Attack, pisskop, Marquis, Spiffeh

- and avoiding the BBT lynch looked feasible. He made one other post that Day, and jumped right back in with a DGB vote at the start of Day 2 as if nothing had changed at all when a wagon he'd largely ignored flipped scum.

VOTE: West9

I want to be here again because I think that's a scum pattern of behavior.

ignore above, see below:

1100

oh, the VC was edited in after West's post - the point still stands with a influx of Awesome votes prior

As for Elbirn I don't think he has a genuine progression of reads and votes right now - the specific way he's all over the place looks to me a lot more like scum feeling things out and interacting at surface level before going with a majority, and Aero wasn't feeling as good as usual either :/ like especially with the West stuff I don't think anything productive came out of it because it's like he was determined not to follow up on things

right now i'd go for any scum within {West, Elbirn, Aristo}

[Marquis]

that mario wagon is cancerous.

[Marquis]

Given how eager lilith and Aristo were to join that, when they're so so hesitant on West9 when an actual case is presented, I think we're good where we are.

I'm not saying they're all scum, I'm saying that I don't think following earlier overeager bandwagons is for the best because it's more of a risk.

[Marquis]

spiff follow me because you owe me

[Marquis]

because i was right and u were going to lynch awesome

[Marquis]

makes it seem like you just don't like me for some reason.

nice.

[Marquis]

How incredibly lame. Whatever.
Hi my name is compftown west, nice to meet you.

Someone should tell me why mario over dgb

Ari should be in consideration for colorflip tomorrow, scumAri is usually as quiet and composed and collected as Ari is being here.

At least I generally agree with your reads! :)

I agree - there's a collections of players that seem to be flopping about every major wagon here, and Aristo looks the most like scum there both in meta and by what they choose to question.

[Marquis]

BUY EMOTION BY CARLY RAE JEPSEN ON ITUNES

[Marquis]

VOTE: Aristo!

[Marquis]

because DGB is a colorflip and Ari is a scumlynch?

[Marquis]

like Ari wouldn't be the best conftown tbh, and a confscum would only really confirm general weaksauce from that slot. not worthwhile to save for later

[Marquis]

I think I chose wrong between West and Elbirn.

West is a good conftown to have around. But wow that Elbirn post above was unnecessary and scummy af.

[Marquis]

no

[Marquis]

i don't think i want to lynch aristo quite as much as i want to lynch elbirn, mostly because it feels like the flow of wrongness is shifting toward aristo now

i can't have reads that agree with the majority otherwise i'm probably wrong

[Marquis]

still townreading mario hard like it's my personal hell

i've accepted i can't do anything to stop this other than sit here and complain though so \o/

[Marquis]

cheet could we get a vc

because i definitely need another reason to get upset

[Marquis]

i would post that as town. pretty sure in a recent game i just did.

[Marquis]

VOTE: hiplop

[Marquis]

.........mario's 1863 was so bad it's almost at the point where it strengthens my townread

[Marquis]

i do love this characterization of me as some sort of champion for the awesome lynch over bbt lynch

[Marquis]

.........mario's 1863 was so bad it's almost at the point where it strengthens my townread

[Marquis]

If Mario flips scum 1863 is going to get you lynched bud.

Just so you know.

considering general town unpredictability/incompetency lately (thanks for ending, machina mafia) i really wouldn't be surprised if it did

if that's a case that people find acceptable to push seriously then i welcome death with open arms

[Marquis]

oh did you claim

can you do it again

[Marquis]

i was pretty sure you were town already but i really don't think you do this as scum

you're playing this game like early machina mafia anyway so that's both good and bad

[Marquis]

^ was @ spiff, not hiplop

i am nullscum on hiplop

i think my resistance to the mario wagon keeps steadily declining the more he does nothing though :/ i was townreading certain posts but this all reminds me of scum lurking it out last game

[Marquis]

ok spiff i trust

Why?

WHY DO YOU ALWAYS ASK USELESS QUESTIONSSSSSSS

i love you man but the post he was clearly referring to is right. there.

you keep doing this and i've called you out on this and i have no idea if you would continue this as scum.

[Marquis]

...

you both make me so freaked out. why hippy why.

[Marquis]

^ "both" = hiplop and aristo

[Marquis]

i'll vote mario if we can color flip hiplop def

[Marquis]

*shrugs*

vote awesome

Spoiler: ignore this one

VOTE: Awesome

On the other hand,

these two are

this one is scummybutt

z

this is good

Yes neighborizer can be scum

My iteration would make scum neighborizer overpowered

Please move on from me

Neiguborizer can be scum

Your ascetic thingy isn't confirmable and you could be bullshitting about it

Even if that weren't the case confirmation of role =/= confirmation of alignment

*waves goodbye*

this is dumb

[Marquis]

odds are very very very likely spiff is town from the nature/method claim alone and his play is town anyway

naked voting awesome means nothing but following me back onto bbt does

[Marquis]

VOTE: hiplop color flip this because necessary

also i trust spiff way more than rc and for good reason

[Marquis]

VOTE: spiffeh
guilty.

his whole play yesterday and this are just... why do yall leave hippy alone when he doesn't play a towngame

[Marquis]

if they're the only two people in the neighborhood he's a neighborizer lol

setup spec some kind of scumpartner role that puts two people in a neighborhood all you want but until you show me evidence cheet would craft such a specifically different scum role or that scum would have reason to link themselves like that in case of a flip I'm disinclined to believe the result, also after yesterday

[Marquis]

rc if you are town and this is another stupid ego-laced reaction test i s2g

PEDIT JESUS FU KING CHRIST

[Marquis]

pedit elbirn's result implicates the first person spiff neighborized who is still alive - is that AA? if so then fyeah lynch ikawolf already

but

replace me out

i gave it a shot i'm done sorry cheet

[Marquis]

no i had the chance to avoid this scenario earlier and didn't take it. because i let it drag on so long I'm much less invested than you now as a result and so I'll replace out.

good luck town. sorry I've been so useless the last few days.

[Marquis]

fyi removing people from a PT still lets them see who the last person to post in it was, and when, if they bookmarked it

bad loopholes -> future mods, make entire new topics, imo

[Marquis]

grats davy

wish i lynched tammy

spiffeh u did well love

cheet too especially

sigh