Paint Mafia! - Game Over!

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Anxiety Attack

[Spiffeh]

Vote for Anxiety Attack

[Spiffeh]

I want things to happen soon I'm feeling this game fsr

[Spiffeh]

Aero do God's work and vote AA

[Spiffeh]

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID

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The people I want to be town better obvtown this game so we can town bloc this to the end

I'm already doing my part!

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Fro99er

[Spiffeh]

Yes

Aero I hope you're town

[Spiffeh]

The Froggy I know would come in guns blazing.

I know he said he was going easier in this game but that doesn't mean I'm ok with him making two joke posts and leaving without even RVSing, especially with this playerlist.

[Spiffeh]

Sky's wagon is stupid even for RVS standards and I'm curious as to why people are choosing that one over Froggy.

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Now that I think about it would it be more beneficial to reveal the color of people we find hard to read (like a lurker)?

PEdit: Because there's actually reasoning attached to Froggy votes. For Skybird everyone's like "omg she said she wasn't scum so she MUST be scum"

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And can't say I'm a fan of Froggy's one content post.

Froggy why lilith over anyone else on your wagon?

[Spiffeh]

I just tried to think of a reason for disliking the Skybird wagon but I can't so I'm just going to stop.

I approve of competing Skybird-Frogger wagons.

But Frogger is scummier.

[Spiffeh]

Frogger's reasoning is superior because I came up with it myself

[Spiffeh]

Do you take issue with the fact that he only has one content post, or you have an issue with the post?

The post itself.

It looks like he noticed a wagon forming and was like "Oh I better do something" and focused his attention on how to handle the paint mechanic. I expect more.

[Spiffeh]

That literally proves my point.

PEdit: Nope

[Spiffeh]

lol

[Spiffeh]

Froggy why lilith out of everyone else on your wagon?

[Spiffeh]

That literally proves my point.

PEdit: Nope

Except he is one of the few people that had even done anything. Not sure I ever like the idea of punishing activity, especially this early.

How is this punishing activity? So I should not push someone I am scum reading just because they might have more posts than someone else? Do you not see a problem with this approach?

PEdit: Froggy sorry you drew scum this game

[Spiffeh]

Town Froggy know should know I'm town by now.

Instead he's acting like he's scum reading me to discredit his own wagon.

Therefore he is scum. I want his color flipped.

[Spiffeh]

"Frogger said pre-game before he knew his alignment that he was going to be less active this game whatever happened

he's being less active and insane this game? obvscum 5-vote wagon yay"

I never said either of these things when explaining my scum read of Froggy lol

Yes I am aware Froggy said he was changing his play style. I am scum reading him independently of that. Just because he said that doesn't mean people can give him an out for behavior I deem scummy regardless.

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So, I don't know what reasoning you think is attached to these votes; I mean, my vote on Fro99er had zero explanation really. Nobody's did. So why are you saying that there's reasoning attached and using that as your response?

I was referring to my own reason for voting Froggy and I assumed (and Marquis later backed up) that people were sheeping me for that reason. And like I said I believe the Skybird wagon is pretty baseless comparatively.

And yes I want competing wagons. Since when has that been a bad thing?

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Now that I think about it would it be more beneficial to reveal the color of people we find hard to read (like a lurker)?

This sounds like a reason to move off me, get a color flip somewhere else, then push me after the color flip.

This is pretty shitty btw

Instead of considering that I was trying to figure out the best use for the paint mechanic he jumps to the option that makes me look bad and him like the victim.

Not sure if that's alignment indicative for him because I know Froggy to get annoyed at being suspected in the past but it's still something to consider.

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I'm giving him a free pass because of something that he said pre-game and is thus not indicative of alignment in any way. I'd be pretty pissed if I went into a game and before the game I say "I'm gonna try a different playstyle" and then get lynched for trying a different playstyle.

I'm chainsawing Spiffeh because I'm fairly sure he's more intelligent than to honestly push that.

This is exactly the thing that should not be happening

[Spiffeh]

@Spiff - So what is your specific reason for scum reading me? That I joked around in RVS? That my first content was about colors?

That's what it was at first.

Then I feel like you were reluctant to call me town when I feel like you should know I'm town by now.

Then you used my paint mechanic brainstorming against me.

And here we are.

Also, Davsto and Acryon worry me.

I think Acryon just doesn't know how I operate, so that's mostly null.

Davsto I agree with.

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VOTE: Davsto

[Spiffeh]

Remember when I told you it was unwarranted?

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It means I wouldn't expect you to twist my paint mechanic discussion into something that makes me look bad.

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To me, it sounds like Spiffeh is just sitting back, watching the everyone else fight, laughing like an evil bond villain. He's more happy that there's two wagons on other people, than the fact that there's one on his scumread.

I could be reading too far into that, but that whole post was disgusting to me.

I cannot fathom how you have drawn this conclusion from my performance so far today. "Sitting back" is the exact opposite of what I'm doing.

Yes I am happy when there are wagons on people. This will never be a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

And if you think I wasn't pushing Froggy you're just not reading.

So move your vote to where it will actually accomplish something thx

[Spiffeh]

DGB give me more please

[Spiffeh]

I have been nauseous all day, can you give me the Cliff's Notes?

Ugh that's so much wooooooooooooork

Feel better though

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys Tammy/Espy hydra might be scum js

[Spiffeh]

Ew @ everyone on the Froggy wagon

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: MarioManiac4

[Spiffeh]

My vote stands

[Spiffeh]

I think Mario is a good person to color flip because if he's town he's likely a potential mislynch in the future, and scum are forced to kill him or make it easier to PoE them.

And if he's scum (which I think is possible) we can lynch him.

[Spiffeh]

Nah I want a lurker. It's easier to ascertain alignments of the active.
TSO, BBT, and Marquis are good options too.

[Spiffeh]

Actually I'm leaning back towards the lurkers that I'm ok with losing if scum decide to nightkill them as conf towns.

Skybird, lilith, West9, Mario

I think we should flip one of them.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: TSO

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Still scum reading AA over everyone else?

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They're my strongest town read so I disagree.

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I also think BBT could be scum

[Spiffeh]

Ugh pisskop are you scum too

[Spiffeh]

Okay with a froggy flip, an awesome flip, or AA. Undecided on acrynom, and wouldn't cry over s spiffeh flip but itd be more a waste than not.

Well mostly because I read over your catch up and am still left wondering why you want to color flip these.

For instance you just said you'd prefer to outright lynch Awesome and not waste a color flip on them and then immediately contradict that here.

[Spiffeh]

Idk what you just said

[Spiffeh]

Can you please clarify so I can understand your answer to my question?

[Spiffeh]

Oh I didn't really ask a question. Here it is:
Would you rather lynch Awesome or color flip Awesome?

[Spiffeh]

How can you make judgments about who you want flipped when you haven't even read the OP where the mechanic is explained?

[Spiffeh]

I kinda wanna flip pisskop now

[Spiffeh]

SW stop

Why are you saying that

[Spiffeh]

If you're town help me put it to good use

[Spiffeh]

I hope you feel better

But I agree you are obvtown so we are not flipping you.

[Spiffeh]

Yeah you're scum

[Spiffeh]

You took advantage of SW's outburst and acted like it was scummy for her.

Which it isn't.

[Spiffeh]

Oh btw let's not forget Davsto is scum

We can lynch him if we get a blue color flip

[Spiffeh]

ikr

People that are town need to start acting like it please.

Which means follow my every command.

thx

[Spiffeh]

Paint Request: A picture w/ no less than eight Disney Characters from at least five different movies.

[Spiffeh]

overall I'm cool with flipping anyone that isn't obvtown

[Spiffeh]

ika I'm not gonna be in a townblock if the plan is to ignore the opinions of anyone outside it

[Spiffeh]

I want Tammy to do things

[Spiffeh]

We arent flipping lilith.

Shes trying to say a nullread isnt a scumread, or that Froggers vote is serious enough to pursue like that.

you ralize your still int he dog house and have no controll or say over this right?

[Spiffeh]

Oh no hiplop you're scum

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I think West9 is town

[Spiffeh]

Still think hippy is scum

But I still love him

[Spiffeh]

hiplop then just catch up when you can?

Why are you so self conscious about being scum read?

[Spiffeh]

IM NOT SELF CONCIOUS IM PISSED OFF THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME A CHANCE

When have I ever given people a chance?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Awesome

[Spiffeh]

I think Awesome is a good flip

[Spiffeh]

<3

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Davsto

AA Froggy come back here.

[Spiffeh]

Froggy can you not pls

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: TSO

This is probably where my vote will be staying.

[Spiffeh]

Psh who am I kidding probably not

[Spiffeh]

Awesome continues to underwhelm me.

[Spiffeh]

Aero wtf is your vote still on me

[Spiffeh]

Yea someone should hammer the color flip on TSO

[Spiffeh]

Mario who is scum

You can say that

[Spiffeh]

Give me names please

[Spiffeh]

Also that wasn't even that snarky

[Spiffeh]

That doesn't answer my question lol

[Spiffeh]

Mario why are you so outraged at someone asking you to play the game?

[Spiffeh]

no it doesn't.
you have asked a question i have answered to its full extent before. i hardly have an iso the size of the damn eiffel tower.

Don't give me this shit.
over 48 hours and 10 pages had occurred since your last post so don't act like that when I ask for an update please.

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Davsto who's scum?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: hiplop

[Spiffeh]

hiplop you're boring

[Spiffeh]

hiplop explain

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I want hiplop dead

[Spiffeh]

I know some people won't like this but the timing of Skybird's replace out REALLY does not sit well with me.

I finally caught up.

DGB, you always scum read me. Maybe you should read some of my games you weren't in and check my alignment in them to get a better read on me.

Town reads so far: Frogger, Spiffeh, Aero.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep up this game.

In this post, Skybird does say she might not be able to keep up.

But then she replaces out like 11 posts later. It's not like there were pages and pages since her last post, so what exactly happened in those 11 posts that caused her to make the decision that she was only considering before?

It was the three votes she accumulated within those 11 posts!!!!!!!

What's sketchy here is that when the game is actually fast paced when she posts the above, she is still waffling on whether to replace out. But then when 11 posts crop up within 7 hours, THAT'S when she decides to replace out. This makes it very clear that it was the votes on her that made her replace out.

Even throwing all of this away, her few content posts were really cookie cutter and mostly full of excuses.

And I think hiplop faked frustration at being suspected "because he wasn't given a chance".

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So yeah BBT pressure is cool and all but when you want to participate in a Spiffeh-approved lynch come vote for hiplop!

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DGB's vote is pretty shitty though and we should probably talk about that.

DGB has been making votes like that all game so why is it only an issue for you now?

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I am pretty sure DGB is town.

Awesome is a decent lynch candidate though.

[Spiffeh]

Are you saying you scum read me in History Mafia for going all out toe to toe with you and now you're scum reading me here for not doing anything? Or have I missed something?

THIS IS AWFUL HOLY SHIT

[Spiffeh]

I don't see how what s obviously a pressure vote from me would help at all in anyone reading BBT.

I'd much prefer to keep my vote on hiplop so people don't forget about him/he doesn't forget about me.

[Spiffeh]

Cheetory sux

[Spiffeh]

you know what? fuck it

lets get him spiff
VOTE: bbt

good one

[Spiffeh]

Oh wow this is a thing

Sorry will be catching up in a little

[Spiffeh]

Can we lynch Tammy hydra?

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Awesome

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Awesome

[Spiffeh]

Hey Tammy

Still think you're scum

please don't hate me

[Spiffeh]

Why are you talking to me specifically?

[Spiffeh]

Tammy ika's reasons for voting you are perfectly valid and I agree pretty wholeheartedly with them.

I think you're using his personal vendetta to try and discredit his vote.

I don't doubt you've been sick/busy but I think you may be playing up the AtE a little bit especially since Marquis specifically wanted you to get emotional in order to get a read on you.

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I also think you're targeting me specifically either because you think you can manipulate me or because I am so obvtown that I could single-handedly over turn this lynch.

Either way it's p. scummy

[Spiffeh]

Tammy I don't think I've ever seen your scum game.

[Spiffeh]

Oh yes I have

[Spiffeh]

Ugggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: BBT

[Spiffeh]

in b4 the lock

[Spiffeh]

Ooooooooooooo Siiiiiilverwooooooooooolllfffff

I'm telliiiiiiiiiinnnngggggg

[Spiffeh]

Oh btw guys Aristophanes is town

[Spiffeh]

He never painted my request so he sux

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Guess: E

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Guess: T

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Guess: A

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Guess: R

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FUCK

Guess: I

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VOTE: MarioManiac

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Hey guys Davsto is scum I think

[Spiffeh]

I want Tammy to do things

[Spiffeh]

Good do that

[Spiffeh]

What
The.....The wagon you built?
What?

Why the FUCK did no one say anything about this?

That doesn't mean I liked anyone else on it!

[Spiffeh]

Lol I'm not getting color flipped

[Spiffeh]

Do I really have to bitch you guys out

I don't feel like it

[Spiffeh]

ika out of all people you should know I'm not scum

So should SW

[Spiffeh]

We are color flipping Mario

His immediate response to RC calling him scum was to discredit him.

Mario only voted BBT after BBT publicly gave up.

He is scum.

[Spiffeh]

Also I obvtowned Day 1 for the sole fucking purpose of a color flip not having to be wasted on me

Me wanting to lynch someone else over flipped scum at one point in the day means jack shit, especially when I was part of the swing back over to BBT

So you can all get your acts together now

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I want to lynch or flip MM4 today.

I'd actually somewhat prefer to colour flip someone else and lynch him, but I'm good either way.

Let me know what's up.

I want mm4 flipped because if he is town than scum are forced to get rid of him at some point over someone actually doing something.

And if he's scum we lynch him.

It's literally a win-win.

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DGB would serve the same purpose but I'm actually town reading DGB so I would prefer it not be her.

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ika maybe?

I would need them to talk more, especially Tammy.

[Spiffeh]

@Mod Can you prod Awesome? They haven't posted all Day phase.

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Oh lookIt's Spiffeh explicitly building a counter wagon to flipped scum

How about you look at the reasons for scum reading hiplop?
Why don't you talk about my reasons for suspecting hiplop instead of mentioning this in passing seemingly just so people would be paranoid of me? Especially when you had been town reading me as far as I know.
Why can't hiplop still be scum with BBT?

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Yourself to an extent, Anxiety Attack, Acryon now apparently, Elbirn very slightly.

I'm missing from this list

[Spiffeh]

No the Mario color flip is final

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VOTE: Spiffeh

ika and I had a phone call about this and we think he's scum

He neighborized us and has not talked to us at all in the hood, he is not sharing reads or showing any interest in the game at all. If you notice, his BBT interactions are awful and the idea of being color flipped upsets him. He isn't doing anything in this game either. We strongly feel he needs to be flipped ASAP.

~SW

Unfortunately that's more due to apathy than anything else but w/e

Flipping me is a waste but at least I get to say I told you so when I am flipped right?

[Spiffeh]

And the way Mario continues to only address anything negative against him and nothing else makes me very confident he will be flipping red

[Spiffeh]

hiplop you're scum aren't you

[Spiffeh]

yeah but I think you are

[Spiffeh]

You and Mario better kill me tonight

I'M COMIN AFTER YOU

[Spiffeh]

guys may I remind everyone that hiplop replaced in for

Skybird

Remember how scummy she was?

And he just did some expertly faked AtE to get the target off his back and it worked fsr

[Spiffeh]

Ok but when I flip blue I get to call all of you bad and make fun of you for the rest of the game

Deal?

[Spiffeh]

K we need to condense somewhere in a day

Even if it's me idrc

[Spiffeh]

How do I owe you?

lol

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: West9

[Spiffeh]

Ikr

I will be lynching Mario if West flips blue

with reckless abandon

[Spiffeh]

Also DGB can you do things that make me townread you?

[Spiffeh]

Nope

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VOTE: MarioManiac4

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Marquis Mario is scum

pls believe in me

[Spiffeh]

[Spiffeh]

Papa Zito <3

[Spiffeh]

I am so obviously not scum lol

You guys need to read Day 1 where I obvtowned so this wouldn't have to be a problem

[Spiffeh]

Btw I want hiplop color flipped tomorrow

[Spiffeh]

oof that is p. bad

[Spiffeh]

Idk though Froggy seemed rly town

[Spiffeh]

Wow you are scum aren't you

[Spiffeh]

Also, you were the one wagoning him in the beginning....what happened to that?

You're right people's opinions can't change what was I thinking?!?!?

I mean if you read my posts like you're implying you have since you're scum reading me, you should know I began townreading Froggy shortly after his response to his wagon.

Interesting how this slight amount of pressure causes you to chuck out anything that could possibly discredit me

[Spiffeh]

I would have kept pushing him if I was still scum reading him

Idk even though I never outright state it, it is heavily implied so I still think you're going to great lengths to try and "get me" on this

[Spiffeh]

Fair enough

I'm still not scum though pls look elsewhere

[Spiffeh]

Davsto why don't you explain why you're scum reading me instead of saying "you don't see" me as town

[Spiffeh]

Like I'm not gonna be a Day 2 "oh well" lynch when people like Mario and hiplop have done absolutely nothing deserving of being townread

[Spiffeh]

ESPECIALLY AFTER HOW OBVIOUSLY TOWN I WAS ON DAY 1

HOLY SHIT

[Spiffeh]

Keep posturing to vote me

It'll look really good when I flip town

[Spiffeh]

Davsto quote where you said why you're scum reading me so I can tear it apart

[Spiffeh]

I'm gonna make a Mario "case" later today

[Spiffeh]

Davsto who do you think is scum that pushed the west flip wagon then?

You can't just say "omg the west wagon took off when spiffeh was a consideration" and leave it at that

Like are you implying the remaining scum piled on West? And if so who are they?

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Because otherwise it just looks like you're pushing anything that will stick

[Spiffeh]

Nah

[Spiffeh]

hiplop is getting color flipped tomorrow

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I might read this now

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ika

I'll just throw a temper tantrum like I did today and the flip will actually be used for something useful

it's fine really just let it happen

[Spiffeh]

Also you should know my role doesn't fit as scum

I have explained this to you multiple times

[Spiffeh]

Anyway my full claim since AA already outed me and it will probably only hurt town if there isn't full disclosure.

I can neighborize one player during the day for one cycle (from night of neighborization until the end of the next day). During this cycle they also become ascetic. This would be super OP as scum because I could just neighborize someone and kill them for free that night.

As we all know this did not happen, therefore I am not scum.

You're all welcome.

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ika I do have a problem with it that's why I am arguing against it

[Spiffeh]

It can be used to cop people that might actually be scum

[Spiffeh]

I'm talking about the color flip what are you talking about?

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As for Mario

I would expect scumbuddies of BBT to start bussing him after he pretty much gave up in the thread.

Mario fits that bill perfectly.

I have a townread on BBT because meta.

In all seriousness, the way pressure flows onto him seems strange, in a way I don't like. In both terms of the word. It feels like nobody is defending him yet the wagon is stillish; bark but without the bite. Not sure about reading BBT as in the posts themselves; I'd disagree that feeling weird is a scumtell for BBT

Here he defends BBT

I think the best option is to lynch BBT. I don't really see town!BBT doing this that much. I think it's WIFOM created to try and get a counterwagon started (BBT!scum would have to do something dramatic to not get lynched, as there are no other counterwagons really. I can see scum in his position going for the risk.)

Here he changes his mind completely after BBT's "surrender" post. I also think he is overjustifying it which makes it look even more like a bus but that might just be me being biased.

And the rest of the game he has just focused on clearing his name which doesn't sit well with me.

Idk I am kinda less confident after looking into his ISO more thoroughly but that is why I have been voting for Mario

[Spiffeh]

Can we just lynch hiplop?

[Spiffeh]

I think I'd prefer to lynch hiplop and flip Mario tomorrow

I'm a little hesitant on Mario now because his reactions early on to scumreads/people wanting to color flip him seem really calm and seem town.

Skybird was scummy af and hiplop AtE's on replacing in to get the heat off and has done nothing notable since

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: hiplop

[Spiffeh]

I literally just explained all of that

[Spiffeh]

Well not the other scum but I'll figure that out if I ever bother to read/people bother to post

[Spiffeh]

Hm I think maybe Davsto is scum too?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Mario

[Spiffeh]

Anyone that suspects me needs to read my full claim and acknowledge it

Otherwise your opinion does not matter

[Spiffeh]

Anyway my full claim since AA already outed me and it will probably only hurt town if there isn't full disclosure.

I can neighborize one player during the day for one cycle (from night of neighborization until the end of the next day). During this cycle they also become ascetic. This would be super OP as scum because I could just neighborize someone and kill them for free that night.

As we all know this did not happen, therefore I am not scum.

You're all welcome.

[Spiffeh]

I neighborized AA last Day if that was not clear already

That's how they know what I am

[Spiffeh]

Shh we don't talk about early Machina

PEdit: Aristophanes read my claim and talk about it then?

[Spiffeh]

hiplop is still scum btw but since everyone wants to let him skate by I will settle for his color flip tomorrow

Mario's recent posts were terribad so I have no problem lynching him

[Spiffeh]

I will

I can't wait to lynch you when you flip red too <3

PEdit: scumlop

[Spiffeh]

Yes neighborizer can be scum

My iteration would make scum neighborizer overpowered

Please move on from me

[Spiffeh]

Sorry if that was mean I get pretty dickish when I'm suspected

As long as no one tries to lynch me in any game ever I will be happy

[Spiffeh]

acryon's AA push is really bad

[Spiffeh]

Their ascetic only lasts until the end of this day cycle.

My new target will be neighborized and ascetic beginning this night cycle provided my action goes through (which I don't see why it wouldn't)

[Spiffeh]

I mean I feel like scum would just kill my target since they can't be doc protected and make me look bad.

That's the reason I never really wanted to announce who I was neighborizing in the first place.

[Spiffeh]

I just feel like it's a big fucking waste of whatever it is you have + leaving you/my target as a sitting duck when I'm already so obviously town

But w/e I could neighborize DGB or something because I doubt scum would bother killing her (no offense DGB ily)?

[Spiffeh]

No I have no idea what you have

[Spiffeh]

You shouldn't have to reveal it though?

[Spiffeh]

Why is Mario such a bitch to lynch

[Spiffeh]

Btw Davsto so your unnecessary claim is not in vain

I will be neighborizing DGB

[Spiffeh]

Mario isn't voting because he has put all of his attention in defending himself and doesn't care about finding scum.

I guess pisskop could be scum too but Mario is a better bet imo