Paint Mafia! - Game Over!

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Hello everyone.

VOTE: unvote

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Had a busy weekend.

Anyone able to summarise the gamestate (or direct me to one)? ie, any confirmed innocents etc.

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Of the 3, Aristo, I guess. Given the possibility of scum framing, maybe we shouldn't be restricting the lynch pool to those 3.

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Wouldn't we have to lynch all 3 of you to prove that?

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West does seem to be the play. I don't like it though cause scum don't usually volunteer for lynches.

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Checking in.

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As far as colour flipping goes, i'm fine with anyone who hasn't been flipped yet.

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VOTE: Zito

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VOTE: hiplop

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Him not having my slot as a townread when ika played his town meta in it is icky

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yay

VOTE: Zito

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/shrug I guess I'll reveal my cards now.

VOTE: zito

guilty.

I'll sheep it! XD

VOTE: Zito

Can I ask the nature of this guilty?

Can I reveal it after zito claims?

Zito has effectively scumclaimed, so up to you whether to reveal specifics, it may (or may not) be in town's interests for you to full reveal your cards.

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VOTE: unvote

Just incase Lilith has an inno to reveal to or something.

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Ok, will you also fullclaim and give some dying reads?

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So far all we've had is a majorly nerfed Sensor and 2-shot whatever Elbirn is. Neighborisor is a cosmetic role. We've got more than that for sure.

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VOTE: zito

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uh I think I want Fire today

VOTE: Fire

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VOTE: hiplop

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Can confirm I got pm

Lets color flip spiff

He should be pled too for missing all his actions

VOTE: spiff

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I can see any of spiff/fire/aris being scum. I think Fire is my preference..

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you sound fake.

the readlist yesterday.

the proposing of 5 scum in 17p.

you're chatting bullshit and i have a hard time believing you're sincere.

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fuck it.

VOTE: spiffeh

his continued missing of actions is too antitown.

i can't in good conscience risk letting him into lylo.

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he could have been protecting townies from scum's colour changing if he's town

or stopping scum colouring themselves

he's shown no interest in doing so

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no

you bullshit more as scum: space dandy, guild of dungeon

less so as town: GBA, mario

its a scumtell for you

so

what do you think about my point on spiffeh

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how the fuck is missing actions town

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because objective actions are better basis for vote than playstyle reads.

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well

you can have the deciding vote dav

if we assume aris will vote in self defence

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same is true of me

but i still expect you to get basics right like townreading ika and 4 scum in 17p

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Xtoxm - what is your opinion on... uhhh... literally anything? Are you planning to catch up and, if you have already started, where are you and what are your opinions?

is this what you're talking about?

if so i think i've covered it in my recent posts

you're not getting any more of a catch up than this

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10/10

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it might be

his posturing crap and offer to self hammer was bad

worried its spiff though

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well arsenal have scored twice and ozil wasn't involved

perhaps mahrez and huth can improve things later

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hello

no hammer etc

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anyway thank you ika for ICing my slot

scum think i'm better to have around in lylo than firebringer!

i gotta prove them wrong

time to read this beast and destroy 3 months of scummy plans

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dav mate

why are you orange

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i was thinking about what dgb said in the hood and the way spiffs role functions and realised he's probably town

but i don't want to rush this decision

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Also, I don't honestly think you think I'm scum. I'm fairly sure you've played with scum Davsto before (correct me if I'm wrong). If so, you know I'm fucking awful as scum, fairly consistently lynched D1 or D2. My play this game has been many things. But not my scum play.

this comment bugs me

we know you're a capable scum player from GBA

so why are you trying to say you're incapable as scum

i want to apply LAL to this comment

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spiffeh also has no reason to play this in the way he has as scum

literally chosen the hardest route to victory

from what he's seen of me he thinks im a weak player who is unlikely to reevaluate

yesterday i tried to lynch him

with fire as my 2nd choice

leaving dav alive and voting him before i even post leaving himself trying to convince me to change my mind on him

is not how i expect scum-spiff to approach this lylo

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I spent most of that game coasting on a vigilante claim. That's how the game is in my head.

No. 1 problem with this game existing: I will no longer be able to get a "well why would he do that" or "as scum he wouldn't have the balls to do that" kind of read on me because I literally got a scum partner to kill themselves for a gambit like fuck what should I do

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7355112

you fake towned pretty good in that game too

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I can't help but feel this is exactly what scum!Spiffeh would do.

why are you still talking like you don't 100% know hes scum

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can you go through exactly what your role is

paraphrase pm details etc

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But if I were scum, I killed the player townreading me the most (Firebringer) while leaving alive the player most likely to push me (Spiffeh, who had already stated that I were the scum if not Aristophanes and that he was almost certain you were town).

i was townreading you most out of everyone yesterday too

so this doesnt really mean much

and i pushed spiff a lot harder than fire did

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Compare my actual play here to there, or any other of my scum games. I'm not scum here. It should be obvious.

you can quit this useless ate crap i say this every time im scum

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Up to p30ish

All the dead scum are hardcore lurking so I'm not getting much out of this

But lots of dead town scumread dav

And lots of dead town townread spiff

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I feel like Spiffeh's deliberately trying to grab towncred constantly in the same way I do as scum.

It gives me really bad feels.

Hopefully he's town, hopefully get nked, hopefully I'm wrong; but if he is still alive the day before LyLo I want him gone no questions.

;-;

dav

why did you pick aris yesterday over spiff when i gave you the decider

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I'm a Flourescent Townie. I target one player each night. They get a message telling them that a player is flourescent and wishes for them to know. Basically flavoured fruit vendor/visitor role kinda thing.

does it say what colour you are?

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im not close to a decision

ive been chosen for lylo and im going to read this entire damn thread

the main thing that makes me think dav is town is the orange flip

its day fucking 8

im pretty confident scum are able to paint everyone whatever the fuck they want by this point

so either dav is orange because he was framed

or because he chose to paint himself that way for a gambit (which is possible, we know dav likes gambits)

and relied on me to logic it out that way too because he ignored it entirely when i baited him on it

dav seemed pretty confident he was blue on d1

spiffeh worked really hard to not be colour flipped on d1 or d2

like really hard

if i put aside the n7 nka and dgb's hood comment (cant rule out that it was wifom), theres a lot of reason to suspect spiff as i outlined before

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ugh

too much of this game is entire pages of dead town

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prod

havent been able to get much further yet, been busy

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this is the most unsure ive ever felt in 3p lylo ;-;

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im going in circles

don't think my mind is changing

VOTE: spiffeh

some reasons,

i feel like he's been working me since i replaced in

people suspecting him have been dying all game

role sounds scummy, and the asceticiser aspect could have been cheets way of nodding to scum that they are free to kill with it. this is not op as spiffs been claiming because setup has no protective.

dav's lylo effort has been wimpy but i've learnt that 3p lylo decisions should pretty much never be based on discussion on the final day

rc wanted him dead (you owe me for this boyo and u better be right)

discussion in the hood between him and dgb on further thought doesnt look like they have any interest in working each other out, and there's a good chance dgb's single comment was a token effort in case town was added in future, AA on the other hand had 4 pages of stuff with him

zito flipped blue ages ago and spiffeh flipped blue. dav either choosing not to flip himself blue or being unable to seems odd to me.

among other things

still don't really understand why fire died, but i'm coming round to thinking scum didn't want to be he only remaining power claim

he claimed on d1 and should have died ages ago, especially as he spent much of the early days hard pushing dav, scum!dav should have killed him

among others

if this is wrong im going to go cry for a week

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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thats kinda incoherent cause im super tired

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cry

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i was at first

if id not read the thread and just quick voted it would have been dav

i was never gonna lylo vote without reading in detail tho