Soccer Spirits Mafia (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:

I'll rethink about it later

[Wisdom]

anyone who gets pushed by Wisdom should get a tad worried.

fixed
SC should know he's doomed the moment I voted him, he played ASOIAF with me.

[Wisdom]

That said, yeah, Magna's right that random's side doesn't look like bussing at all. So maybe SC didn't actually see his lynch coming.

VOTE: Klingon

Yeah I'm sticking with this, only person I'm confident is scum of whatever kind

[Wisdom]

Wisdom is probably Scum, btw.

I'm scum for voting a cop yet you aren't, makes sense

Get lynched

[Wisdom]

who should I be voting?

Klingon

[Wisdom]

I very much doubt KC would agree on this though.

Oh ok, if scum don't agree to be lynched we shouldn't lynch them

[Wisdom]

He literally explained it in what you quoted

[Wisdom]

What's boring is that Klingon still lives

[Wisdom]

Because nothing changed since you asked me yesterday

[Wisdom]

Now let's get those kling votes

[Wisdom]

Hey Wisdom we aren’t lynching Klingon today. Not in light of the things discussed regarding Cakez and his interactions with the slot yesterday.

Cakez was mafia. Klingon is chaos. We've already gone over why Klingon isn't mafia before cakez even flipped. Stop idiotically tunneling on heat and maybe you'll see it.

[Wisdom]

read the game

[Wisdom]

Not this again

[Wisdom]

Bro, who else have you redirected?

I redirected you to me last night.

I am pretty sure I did target who I targeted, so unless someone re-redirected me this isn't possible

Wisdom are you sure your inno wasn't on BRO?

Yes

[Wisdom]

What above said

[Wisdom]

lol

[Wisdom]

Let's lynch klingon

[Wisdom]

Do I really have to make a case to get votes on Klingon? Just reading her awful ISO and all the points that have been made on her are not enough?

[Wisdom]

I feel like people have just forgotten how obvscum you are :/

[Wisdom]

The link indicts him as scum.

no it doesn't
This is ridiculously shallow

[Wisdom]

yep that must be it

[Wisdom]

Interesting to note that KC wasn't on it. I'm inclined to think that there is one mafia on there + heat

Neither of them is mafia. Klingon is Chaos and Heat is town

[Wisdom]

Magna, random, Thor and almost all look awful for this heat push. Pretty safe to assume any remaining mafia are in there.

But we'll deal with that after we lynch klingon. Nahdia, TWIE, whoever, vote kling already.

[Wisdom]

That and everything else

[Wisdom]

Can we lynch this yet?

[Wisdom]

not happening

[Wisdom]

Not voting: Nahdia, Heat

What are you two waiting for exactly?

[Wisdom]

@Almost Obviously TWIE. Check the votes on Thor too.

[Wisdom]

Heat, TWIE, get on Kling.

[Wisdom]

Sure?

[Wisdom]

I'm glad it turns out to be him being a bad town player

At least I am not asking the town to decide on a person to lynch so I can sheep because I don't have any opinions of my own.

[Wisdom]

Also, you do realize I've been right about all three mafia so far, right? What have you done?

[Wisdom]

yeah totez misrep

You've said like 5 times that you will vote whoever

Your random push makes absolutely no sense

Your Heat sheep is awful

You have no excuse not voting Klingon.

[Wisdom]

Show me something she's posted that can't come from scum.

[Wisdom]

Unofficial VC:

Klingoncelt (4): Wisdom, Firebringer, Nahdia, Almost50
Heat (2): Thor665,

MoI

, Klingoncelt
Thor665 (1): TWIE

Not voting: Heat, randomidget

6 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2016-05-08 07:23:00)

[Wisdom]

If you read the game you'd have the description

But sadly people just remember what happened in the last 10 posts and nothing before

[Wisdom]

Dude. She claimed it to explain why she didn't die to Errant's action. And then we learned that action never happened in the first place.

[Wisdom]

And for the fucking umpteenth time, getting a guilty on Mafia doesn't mean she was bussing, as there are non-Mafia scum in this game.

[Wisdom]

Link to Mod Post confirming the bolded ...

Why would Nahdia lie about it?

[Wisdom]

What mechanics are you talking about? Nahdia knows, from her role, that Spiff was targeted by an accelerated action, which given Spiff died, was 99% the mafia kill. That means he never got affected by Errant's PGO-izer, and therefore Klingon who targeted him was not shot.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom to be clear, like I said earlier I don't have 100% confirmation that Spifflop was acceleration killed. I just have a strong reason to believe. There are other possible explanations.

But you do have confirmation he was targeted by an accelerated action, right?

[Wisdom]

Oh.

You know that DS used the acceleration, or that Spiffeh was targeted by an accelerated action?

The latter. I don't know if it was DS who did it but I know it happened.

Why'd you say this then ._.

Can you share what exactly you know?

[Wisdom]

So do you actually have something or are you simply outguessing the mod? I had those thoughts too but I didn't pretend I have a result or something.

[Wisdom]

Magna I love how you're acting like the BP thing is why Kling is scum

It's not like I was trying to lynch her before it ever came up

[Wisdom]

I actually have something.

Tell us what it is.

[Wisdom]

@MoI I've given tons of reasons Kling is scum, I can't bother to repeat them for people who can't read. I definitely don't need cases to lynch people. You wanna look like a fool and continue tunneling on townies and defending scumlynches, have fun!

[Wisdom]

Maxwell was their strongman and he was dead at the time, so unless they have another, that's not it.

[Wisdom]

Or Errant got Roleblocked

In that case Klingon would still be lying about being shot then

[Wisdom]

fb fix your vote

[Wisdom]

Unofficial VC:

Klingoncelt (3): Wisdom, Almost50, randomidget
Heat (3): Thor665, Klingoncelt, Firebringer
Thor665 (1): TWIE
randomidget (0) -

MoI

Not voting: Heat, Nahdia

6 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2016-05-08 07:23:00)

[Wisdom]

Why does there have to be a Destruction cop? That's a silly argument.

[Wisdom]

First of all you're making the assumption that Klingon can't be a scum cop. Her being scum doesn't mean she isn't a cop.

Second, even if it was like you said, you don't know what Chaos have. Maybe their role is stronger than Destruction's to balance out the amount of investigatives that affect them.

In short, you're trying to outguess the mod.

Don't.

Klingon has been way scummier than Heat and her actions don't make any sense. That's what's important, not which roles the mod might have used and why.

[Wisdom]

Oh I don't know, maybe her investigating Spifflop after he had already been cleared by Heat and it was glaringly obvious to anyone he wasn't Mafia? And with Spifflop having the reflexive roleblock and having claimed it on top of it. How much sense does it make for her to investigate him of all people?

Or maybe her sheeping people on Errant when she had a guilty on DS and then opting to follow my guilty on Maxwell instead of hers? Despite the fact she clearly didn't trust investigative claims as shown in her posts towards EII's claim?

Nothing she's done makes any sense as town.

[Wisdom]

What has Heat done that's scummy? Forgot to submit an action? Boo hoo. The whole push on him is based on setup speculation.

[Wisdom]

He was not cleared by anyone when Heat investigated him, so not even close

[Wisdom]

And yes there's a problem with her following another investigative's result when she wanted to lynch EII for being a possible scum cop

As there's a problem with her sheeping people on Errant instead of pushing either guilty

Both point to her wanting to keep her guilty for another day because she didn't care who goes first

[Wisdom]

Uh, no. Town cares that they're lynching scum. Scum doesn't care who they're lynching if it's not their faction

I've already had this discussion one or two gamedays ago, this is tiring. I wish people just read the game

[Wisdom]

Yes, and sure.

[Wisdom]

Or, you know, you're wrong, and Heat is town

But fun how you think I am scum because Heat is scum yet you want to lynch me before Heat! Total sense.

[Wisdom]

We can discuss what's balanced and what isn't when we know the full setup. Until then I will lynch who is scummy, thank you.

[Wisdom]

What is the scummy series of claimed actions? A missed action on N3?

Your meta point is bullshit. You can't meta off a single game.

[Wisdom]

As for zero scumhunting, look at Klingon's ISO to know what it is

[Wisdom]

8 hours to deadline

[Wisdom]

what? If you're going by dram's vc, he doesn't use countdowns

[Wisdom]

You're not mislynching her, dw

[Wisdom]

Mostly we're waiting for TWIE to move his two votes on Kling and Heat/Nahdia to hammer

[Wisdom]

Magna is town.

[Wisdom]

You seem to be assuming mafia is the only anti-town left? Do you think Klingon killed itlepip N1?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: random

I was becoming paranoid about Heat, so that's good

[Wisdom]

Yes, I doubt there are three anti-towns + the amount of mafia we have

And then how did she get the guilty on DS?

[Wisdom]

What about the N4 kill though? Everyone non-mafia was blocked, therefore there must be another mafia alive who killed BRO. Unless that 3p is also roleblock-immune in addition to investigative-immune?

[Wisdom]

She had a killing ability, read her role PM

Also, your results

[Wisdom]

dude ffs

What are you doing in the game if you don't care to use your abilities?

[Wisdom]

So defender

[Wisdom]

You forgot Heat in Leader

[Wisdom]

And a neighborizer was more important than a cop? That goes for N1 too, why me instead of EII?

[Wisdom]

nah go ahead

[Wisdom]

so hammer time?

[Wisdom]

no

[Wisdom]

negative

[Wisdom]

I think I'll have an easy time when I roll scum against you

[Wisdom]

damn it dram

[Wisdom]

gg guys

You should have seen my face when Kling actually flipped scum. I was convinced it was just us left at that point and as such I was positive Kling is town and I'm forcing a mislynch.. yet she flipped scum.

The same went for my pushes on Cerb and Spiff.. I didn't think they were mafia for a second.

[Wisdom]

I think the biggest tell from you Wisdom for me was how as soon as I flipped mafia you went straight back to the same people I was pushing (Kling, Random, Heat).

Eh I was pushing those already though

[Wisdom]

You were pretty good in this, though I was a little biased because of ASOIAF

I was expecting BRO the be the final mafia instead of you

pedit: @sircakez

[Wisdom]

I'm keeping track in my wiki

[Wisdom]

Wait you actually thought I was scum?

More like I wasn't sure you are town
Still not good at reading you

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I do think we were kinda OP because on top of our ridiculous countermeasures to both investigatives and protectives, we also had the extra perk of people not knowing whether we exist or whether we're a team or a single person, which we used to our advantage.

[Wisdom]

Though the point in multiball is that the scumteams also take each other out and that helps the unbalanced town out. Here mafia did absolutely nothing to us because they were eliminated quickly, otherwise they could really harm us with a strongman kill, prioritized/delayed kill, or even a roleblock on Almost. I guess this has played a role in this becoming unbalanced in our favor too.

[Wisdom]

wow its almost like wisdom was obvscum all game.

You thought I was bussing Maxwell though

[Wisdom]

whoops I killed BROseidon.

Why? Thor killed him because he was not blockable

[Wisdom]

nah i mean.

its whatever.

literally all of my reads were right this game and no one follows them.

standard.

Okay, have fun playing on your own. Don't fucking dare to whine about town being incompetent if they lynch you and/or ignore you when you're being like that.

[Wisdom]

Silent Madness is not an investigate though