BLOODBORNE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Sensei]

First.

[Sensei]

VOTE: Xk

[Sensei]

Spider Vote: Hastur and Muriel

Get hyped!

-SC

Why pull this out now?

[Sensei]

Because of what happens when we don't pull that out
To demonstrate
VOTE: Hastur and Muriel

Now wait for a VC

Ight that makes sense.

[Sensei]

VOTE: RI

[Sensei]

What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?

One of the safest entrances I think I've ever seen.

[Sensei]

What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?

One of the safest entrances I think I've ever seen.

OMG Senseis here! I literally got up from bed just to get to my computer to type to you!

Elbirn's.

Jumping into the game and townreading a majority of the people who have posted so far and then proceeding to rvs is safe. There's no chance to make any "enemies" when you do that.

It's supplemented by the fact that half the reads I couldn't quite see where he was coming from either.

[Sensei]

I'm reading along here and cerb's posts are okay, though.

Meh.

[Sensei]

On the Almost50 stuff, I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with his posts so far. In fact, they seemed to me to be coming from a well thought out mindset.

How so?
And why does that have an affect on your read of him?

[Sensei]

She's town ... I think. *"half" a sigh of relief*

What about that readslist makes you think she's town?

[Sensei]

Shinobi's latest vote is a fine vote. I'm not seeing any useful contribution from Zulfy that would separate him from those who haven't posted yet.

Walk me through why the first part translates to the second part here.

[Sensei]

That's the Zulfy ISO.

You remember how he was in Saga right?

[Sensei]

VOTE: Almost50

[Sensei]

To answer your question, voting for someone who has done nothing to help the town is a fine use of a vote.

I disagree completely but that's fair. That outlook tends to be common.

Have you touched on the rest of Shinobi's play?

[Sensei]

VOTE: Shadow_step

[Sensei]

Just tell me what your reads are.

I'm reading Almost 50 as town(slightly) because of the reasons stated in #221.
It's relatively easy to jump on his wagon right now, I think there is at least one scum on his wagon.
Sensei most probably, never explained his vote on A50.

Nahdia seems to be getting a free ride so far for her weird posting style, which apparently she does a lot as town, which she can easily duplicate as scum too. Weak vote on A50 before, now she's voting RI for meta reasons.

i HATE META.

So what the fuck is going on?

Everybody just skim over this?
Look at the position-y-ness here.

"Yea A50's town, so there's scum on his wagon for sure."

Like that kinda reasoning is fair coming from the benefactor of the wagon but a third party observer should either think something like "well I mean it's 12 or so to lynch and it's still early yadda yadda maybe scum hasn't hopped on yet or maybe I'm wrong on A50."

But he's "slightly" town on A50 and straight up pulling out the chainsaw here.

This whole post is flaccid and meek.

And here's an idea - how about ASK why I voted A50 instead of assuming I'm some drooling idiot who couldn't bullshit up something about him looking like a glob of fake or whatever if I were scum.

[Sensei]

Anyway found our lynch for today.

Gonna read up on the back pages.

[Sensei]

Sensei, why the vote and why did you vote almost earlier?
I will death tunnel you if you don't answer
~wgeurts

Because his reads wall was atrocious and had no scum reads.

His back and forth with nahdia was weird enough to be town I think, though. For now.

[Sensei]

Also do your worst wgeurts I can now say I've survived a titus tunnel.

I'll probably never be the same.

[Sensei]

Nope just sheer will power.

[Sensei]

I support Shadow wagon too mainly becuase I have no read on that slot.

What do you think of my thoughts on shadow? Good, bad?

[Sensei]

Like you yourself get run up. You have the perspective to call out scum on your wagon better than anybody because you know you're flipping town (or you're scum acting like it).

[Sensei]

It doesn't feel like someone trying to sort me.

It feels like someone picking a name out of a hat based on very surface level analysis.

Like it doesn't get flatter than - i think this guy's town - this guy that's voting him is scum.

Is what I'm saying essentially.

[Sensei]

Bogre can be scum too.

[Sensei]

Like way to quote a townpost and call out bad grammer and twist that into a scumread somehow.

[Sensei]

And after an ISO is still sitting on his RVS.

Yea that can go after shadow gets to steppin.

[Sensei]

Who are you referring to in that last post bogre?

[Sensei]

Because Almost hasn't voted anyone yet and it looks like you're talking about him so?

[Sensei]

A better question is - why would you?

You don't want to assume, you want to understand my motivation for doing things.

Or do you?

[Sensei]

It's your job to explain why you are voting someone, neh?

No, I'm Sensei. My job is to teach.

[Sensei]

You expect me to assume that you have a legit reason to vote A50, but I cannot make this assumption?

No, I just said. I don't think that you should assume anything and asked me for my reason first.

Feel like we're talking past each other a bit.

Are you thinking anyone besides me is scum?

[Sensei]

You voted RI for some crappy "this entrance is too safe" reasons, and then backed off when you realised the wagon wasn't going anywhere, saying "meh".
You're vote on A50 seems completely opportunistic.

Now you're OMGUS voting me ofc.

We'll have to just agree to disagree about my original reasons for voting RI.

Don't know why you didn't bring this up sooner?

I backed off because Cerb is carrying the hydra super hard right now and he looks town.

Opportunistic and OMGUS. Geez, one of

those

.

Probably like the top two buzzwords out of the scum dictionary but I'll bite I guess.

What's my scum motive to do either of those things? Or I guess what opportunity would I gain as scum voting A50 there vs not and what differentiates me from mixed6, random, nahdia and whoever else was voting him?

I mean tbh and take this with a grain of salt I didn't even really know he had traction already when I voted him.

[Sensei]

What was your reason to vote him?

Well if you were paying attention you'd have noticed I already answered this.

His readwall back on whatever page it was where he threw out like 10 townreads based on nothing and didn't call anyone scum looked like trying to make friends a bit. Or rather not someone really looking for scum.

But I don't know though, the fake dayvig on nahdia and then him sorta dissecting his own wagon sorta looked town later on so meh.

Decided to move on to different things.

[Sensei]

You were typing 446 when I answered wgeurts on pg 17?

[Sensei]

I'm talking about almost's #103.

[Sensei]

Almost I made some pretty good points on shadow earlier if you wanna check them out.

[Sensei]

Xk has this devil may care kinda attitude as town that I'm not seeing at all here so far.

[Sensei]

I'm not getting scumvibes from shinobi.

Plus his vote is in the right place.

[Sensei]

And on that note almost please let mixed6 have their vote back. Your hampering progress on lynching scumshadow right now for literally no reason.

[Sensei]

I'm not getting scumvibes from shinobi.

Plus his vote is in the right place.

Sensei talk to me about the game.

What do you want my thoughts on?

[Sensei]

What?

You following along or what man?

Almost has vote freezer.

[Sensei]

Well it took a while for me to get a scumread I felt good about. That could be it.

Now it's lurking.

/shrug

pedit - fire

[Sensei]

The strength of your reads and how they've progressed.

shadow's flipping scum - take that to the bank
xk might be scum
i saw something from bogre that set him back to nullish scum from scummy
some mehscum vibes from hastur

where are you at?

[Sensei]

varsoon

could you prod yume please possibly?

[Sensei]

^exactly

[Sensei]

Tell me more about hastur?
I might be able to get behind that lynch as well.

Looking back over their entrances I think the reason I dropped them down slightly from null was a mix of gut and really disliking the "two spiders is two too much" line. Plus the thought process they had with disliking ranger's entrance felt slightly forced?

The start was fine - "trying to act town didn't like this entrance" - but capping it with "not enough to form a read" is pretty needless hedging and rubbed me a bit like words for the sake of words.

It's weak. Def need more content before I'd pursue a wagon there personally.

[Sensei]

I haven't noticed any dwlee votes no.

[Sensei]

*posts

why do you think that means something?

[Sensei]

same

also pagetop

[Sensei]

Shadow has enough content for a wagon but not Hastur?

There isn't really a set level of content I need from a slot in order to be confident pushing a lynch. It definitely varies slot to slot; and what I've seen from shadow makes me confident he's flipping scum. Hastur not as much.

[Sensei]

I think Hastur's catch up post was pretty okay.
Hard as fuck to follow because the post numbers weren't linked so I needed to basically reread a big chunk of the game myself to get anything out of it.
But there was some pretty decent thought processes thrown in there and I for the most part saw where he was coming from with things.

[Sensei]

whats up?

Been busy.
And wondering why shadow hasn't been lynched yet.

[Sensei]

Town if scum - would a scum player simply afk on their teammate all day and do nothing for what they inevitably flip? I don't think so.

You'd be surprised.
I mean, bogre wouldn't be the first person I'd look at. But his vote did kinda come from outer space.
Wouldn't write him off.

[Sensei]

I still really like a shadow lynch. Would lynch Xk but it doesn't seem to have the support atm. Could also do bogre.

Yume's replacement do anything yet? Because the sheer lack of presence across two different personalities is making me feel like that could be a scumslot.

Should be around more starting tomorrow.

[Sensei]

VOTE: Bogre

Think that's L2.