BLOODBORNE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Ranger]

Arg!
In a normal game, I'd be claiming, but Varsoon specifically warned us against doing that. :/

Just...keep it in mind.

[Ranger]

{D&D}
{Mixed 6}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Zulfy}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Almost50}
{Shinobi}
One.

[Ranger]

If you're a miller or some such ridiculous negative town utility you should claim.

Like I said, under normal circumstances, I would claim.
Varsoon specifically warned against it.

There's aspects of my roles that are good, but there are aspects that are bad. I want to claim, but I think it'd be dangerous to claim. So, unfortunately, I'm choosing not to, sorry.
{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Almost50, Zulfy}
{Patches}
{Shinobi}

[Ranger]

Disappointed.

Disappointed that I would try? ;)
{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu}
{Patches, Almost50}
{Shinobi}

[Ranger]

{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, RyLina}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu}
{Patches, Almost50}
{Shinobi}
VOTE: Shinobi.

[Ranger]

Disappointed that I wasn't already on the list, somewhere near the top...since if you're scum, you already know I'm town, and if you're town, you should know I'm town by now.

Well, you hadn't posted on the first page.

For what it's worth, you're vaguely near the top now, but I'll need more from Elbirn to be sure, not to mention, my read on you always gets better with time so the more I see from either head, really, the more sure I'll be.

Why is nahdia on the list twice, in three separate lists you've made?

Didn't notice. The higher level is the more accurate one.

So...it seems likely you're looking at a proxy slot of some sort, like Bright in Suikoden.

Well in that case, move Patches to the bottom tier. It's a scum ability.

I was evaluating it as a player (it was a scummy post), but if it's a proxy slot, auto-scum.

I don't really think my case on Ranger is good anymore but I'm struggling to find an alternative.

So...this is basically an exact replica of what Shinobi did last game. Having points that he says are in the wrong, but doing nothing about it.

[Ranger]

{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, RyLina}
{Sensei, Klingoncelt}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu, Almost50}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

Ranger ALWAYS scum reads me at the start of the game

Even when you're confirmed town. ;)
{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, RyLina, Sensei}
{Klingoncelt, Almost50, Hastur}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu}
{Shadow_step}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Sensei}
{Klingoncelt, Almost50, Hastur, Xkfyu}
{Gee Willikers, Fire Assassin, randomidget}
{Toogeloo, Zulfy, Bogre}
{Shadow_step}
{Patches, Shinobi}
8.

[Ranger]

Shadow_step: Zulfy is the trolliest of trolls imo.

Counterpoint: Kain Tepes.

[Ranger]

why are you town reading me so fast so hard?

Something about you playing in hydras makes you ridiculously easy for me to read. For instance, the moment you started playing in Assassin's Creed, I instantly knew you were town.

[Ranger]

Ranger: Let's talk about your bottom 5, excluding Patches. Toogeloo, Zulfy, Bogre, Shadow_step, Shinobi. It seems to me like everyone you have there, except for Shinobi, has been largely absent this game. What are you basing these reads off of, or if this purely a (perhaps unintentional) instance of connecting inactivity to scum play?

Why is it that people keep on assuming that inactivity factors into my scumreads?

I mean, sure, I suppose if it continues over a long enough period of time it would, but no, it's always for post-based reasoning.

Regarding Shinobi, you never explained what you meant in your 104, or rather, never elaborated. The idea that you're suggesting makes sense as cause to suspect someone, but I'd like to know more about the situation you're comparing his current play to.

This game has a lot of parallels to Killer Instinct, Shinobi's play among them. It's a dead-ringer.
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Sensei}
{Klingoncelt, Almost50, Hastur, Xkfyu}
{Fire Assassin, randomidget, PeregrineV, Zulfy}
{Toogeloo}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

As for Master of the Hunt: pretty sure all of {Reasonably Irrational, Matrix6, D&D} would be solid candidates unless they themselves personally state otherwise. I'd vote for any of them and would encourage others to do so, too.

[Ranger]

Gee Willikers would also be a good huntmaster candidate. Forgot them earlier.

[Ranger]

Huntmaster vote: Mixed6.

[Ranger]

The main point of the question was...what are the post based reasons for your reads on each of those slots I listed?

I'll go over it tomorrow.

Ranger is also a possibility, but honestly, I don't think Ranger needs any more of a target on her than she already has. ^^

I'm not RC. I have no qualms with a scum target being placed on me.

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Sensei, Klingoncelt}
{Almost50, Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Fire Assassin, PeregrineV, Zulfy}
{Toogeloo}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}
16.

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Almost50, Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Fire Assassin, PeregrineV, Zulfy}
{Toogeloo}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}
17.

[Ranger]

I find it extremely unlikely that "all" 6 hydras are town, don't you?

Well, one's a null read!

...But in all seriousness: absolutely not, no. Why would I?
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Fire Assassin, PeregrineV, Zulfy, Almost50}
{Toogeloo}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

"Not being scummy, but lazy isn't anti town at all"

I'm lazy town all the time; I found nothing suspicious in Almost50 saying that.

...It's

other

things that have raised eyebrows on him.

That said...mind explaining how you take the above stance for Almost50, and yet...

I am kinda thinking Mixed6 is going for a "These are the lazy slots that we should focus on" which is really bad

...Immediately after, you take this one?
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{PeregrineV, Zulfy, Almost50}
{Toogeloo, Fire Assassin}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{PeregrineV, Zulfy, Almost50}
{Toogeloo, Fire Assassin}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}
22.

[Ranger]

Elbirn completely fooled me in Space Dandy, so I'm cautious.

I can catch Elbirn.
I can also catch Cerb given enough time.

The thing that's keeping them from being a top-tier townread is that I haven't seen more of Elbirn. What I have seen is indicative of town loosely, but not strongly, and from Cerb, he looks town, but he'd look town as scum initially to me anyway; it'd only be later that I'd be able to tell for sure. So basically, I want more from both heads but especially Elbirn. For this stage in the game, good townread, but not a top townread yet.

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational}
{Mixed 6, Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{PeregrineV, Zulfy, Almost50}
{Toogeloo, Fire Assassin}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}
Ironically, Elbirn gave me

exactly

what I was looking for the very next page.

[Ranger]

I'm curious Ranger, you haven't started scumreading me yet?

Why would I?

You're obviously town.

[Ranger]

I called Mixed bad for doing that because he wanted to waste time on people he likely knew weren't going to post much or defend himself. Peregrine is known for that

And Almost50 said he was being lazy, something he is known for doing, yet you were "wasting" time on him.

So my question remains.

Why is Mixed6 going after PeregrineV bad, but you going after Almost50 normal?

[Ranger]

She has basically stated she is going to be playing lazy town this game.

Temporarily, yes.

This game is filled with complicated mechanics and has a very large playerlist.

When things get to a more manageable level and there's more availability to sort abilities, their truthfulness, their usage, their impact on alignment, etc., I'll be more engaged. Zero intention of trying more in a game like this until then. Larges are large. If I go all-out, I'll be miserable, I'll be emotional, I'll be inaccurate anyway, and I won't be useful. My play in Metal Gear Solid was lazy, and yet it was one of the first games to define my identity. (I invented my bracketed reads for that game!) Diverging from the MGS mold has always been counterproductive.

If a strong townread of mine is in danger, I'll defend them. If there's one read in particular I'm asked to explain, I'll do so. If there's interest in lynching a scumread if a case would be made, I'll oblige. Otherwise, no. For my sanity if nothing else, I refuse to put in effort.

[Ranger]

How does similar reads lists make her townish?

^This is a question any town player already instinctively knows the answer to.

What negative thing are you talking about?

Nothing much, just my very first post in the game.

It's not like this has been a subject of discussion or anything.

[Ranger]

These "I agree" posts suck.

I agree.

:P

[Ranger]

(No, but seriously, I do; Shinobi's "I agree" post sucked.)

[Ranger]

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational}
{Mixed 6, Klingoncelt, Almost50}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Zulfy}
{Toogeloo, Fire Assassin, PeregrineV}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

dammit Ranger

The reaction I strive for. <3

I don't think I'll be able to read the remaining seven pages productively tonight, so I'll read them tomorrow.

[Ranger]

As a dog veteran myself, I must disagree with 1235: humanity's problems

do

worry a dog, who must win with them. ;)
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational}
{Mixed 6, Klingoncelt, Almost50}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Zulfy}
{Toogeloo, Fire Assassin, PeregrineV, Shadow_step}
{Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

Heuristic_Arrow (Hydra of Ircher and Heuristically_Alone) replaces into the Yume slot.

Taking bets.
Vigged, or lynched?
Which night, or which day?

I'm putting money on being the D2 mislynch. (Emphasis 'mis'.)

[Ranger]

Oh god a hydra of two lynchbait

Thus my bet. :P
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational}
{Mixed 6, Klingoncelt, Almost50}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Zulfy, heuristic_arrow}
{Toogeloo, PeregrineV, Shadow_step}
{Bogre, Fire Assassin}
{Patches, Shinobi}

[Ranger]

I think Hastur's catch up post was pretty okay.
Hard as fuck to follow because the post numbers weren't linked so I needed to basically reread a big chunk of the game myself to get anything out of it.
But there was some pretty decent thought processes thrown in there and I for the most part saw where he was coming from with things.

I found it too hard to read, but what I did read of it (I skimmed) was fairly townish, so basically this.

Just my way to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Indeed. Still, the only gift I can give scum on their birthday is a lynch of them.

[Ranger]

This is the second time(Ranger was the first) that someone has compared his play here to Killer Instinct.

Actually, it's the third. SirCakez did it, too. I'll look at Toogeloo's iso to see if Toogeloo has said anything on there. If I find something, that'd make four (and basically unanimous from that game), and if I don't, frankly it's going to increase my suspicion on Toogeloo because every veteran of that game

should

be seeing the similarities here.

[Ranger]

Oh yeah.
Isoed Toogeloo.
Not only for the Shinobi thing, but also for what content Toog is giving.
Toogeloo is scum.
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational}
{Mixed 6, Klingoncelt, Almost50}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget}
{Zulfy, heuristic_arrow}
{PeregrineV, Shadow_step}
{Bogre, Fire Assassin}
{Patches, Shinobi, Toogeloo}

[Ranger]

soooo you think Toog is bussing her partner's proxy slot?

Yes.

[Ranger]

Ranger, please use words to tell me why Toog is scum. I can certainly see it as a possibility, but I don't see why they couldn't just be bad town.

Okay. Iso Toog. Look at the content Toogeloo has posted. It's all weak and running against all logical intuition. This does not match my experience with a town Toogeloo. I can see a town Toogeloo being reckless. I can see a town Toogeloo as paranoid and making mistakes. I do not see a town Toogeloo playing in this particular manner.

Also tell me why KC is so town. KC's alignment is pretty important.

Well even if I didn't have experience with Klingoncelt, I've liked a lot of what she's said. Having experience with her only helps; I'm reasonably confident this is her towngame. However, I am not absolutely sure of it, ergo, strong townread but not top tier townread.

[Ranger]

She is acting very lazy and I don't like that , but posting reads is what he do and so far I like them. its just , she didn't post some for a while

When I don't post reads, and for that matter, don't post content, it's because there's nothing of note since the last time I did.

As others have pointed out, the game's fairly inactive. The active posters are mostly discussing things that don't actually mean anything to me. I'll contribute my vote to whichever scumread of mine has the largest wagon. I'll stop any stupid wagons I see forming, and point out any scummy ones. If anything in my reads changes, I'll note it. If there's noteworthy content (for instance, egregious posts which solidify a scumread), I will mention it.

Otherwise, I don't have anything to say, sorry. My lists speak for themselves. When they don't, when people ask me about reads on them, I give my answer. But for the most part, as you yourself note, people like my lists. They don't see any reads they want to ask me about. So here I am, doing nothing, lazily hanging around.

[Ranger]

Push someone for us Ranger. Do it!

Sorry. I don't feel like being a town leader. I mean, I probably should be one, I know, but I can't will myself to suddenly be in that mindset. The closest you'll get to a push from me right now is a vote.

Speaking of which...

Ranger, Hastur, drop a vote on Bogre if not already done.

Can do!
VOTE: Bogre.
As previously stated, largest wagon on a scumread gets my vote.

[Ranger]

Purchase: Threaded Cane.

[Ranger]

Anything else to comment on?

Yeah.
I laid out my case on you to the person I messaged (not sure if I should claim it or not), but basically...
Toogeloo is not scum.
You most certainly are.
Shinobi still is, and his posting today only proves it.
If I could vote either of you, I would, but Shadow_Step is by far a better lynch than RyLina because RyLina is obviously town whereas Shadow_Step is in my lynchpool, albeit not as much a main candidate as you.

Given that,
VOTE: Shadow_Step.
This should be the first vote there, so no risk of a lynch.

Also,

Huntmaster vote: Mixed 6.

Not strictly needed, since I think that's the default anyway, but unless there's reason to select someone else...

[Ranger]

Purchase: Poison knife.

[Ranger]

Ranger sent me a message claiming scum last night. Clearly needs to be vigged tonight.

Yeah, about that.
I 100% figured some jerk would try to impersonate me.
But...surprise! It won't work this game.
Ever.

I sent my message to RyLina.
They can confirm it came from me, containing info such as me deliberately saying that I had no need to prove my identity.
As in, if you ever were to receive a message from me that were legitimate, I could go through the trouble of giving Ranger trivia that only I could possibly know, yet which would be easily found and confirmed to be from me.
...But as I clearly laid out my reasons for to RyLina (a partial roleclaim), I have no need for that this game. My messages will always be obviously mine.

Proof that I sent my message to RyLina can be found in how my message contained a <3-filled letter to them instructing them to not be put down, even though their read on Reasonably Irrational is wrong. I also gave my answer to 1849, which I was in the process of typing up when Varsoon locked the thread. (In fact, I had typed up my answer to them, so I was seconds late on the trigger.) Since only I would bother to give that, only I could have sent the message to them.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Liger_Zero.
I can actually do this now!

[Ranger]

Mixed why put Ranger in the party? She's hardly doing that much.

I've done plenty, mainly a large series of raving and ranting and begging and pleading for RyLina's life because they were obviously town and I thought I could talk the lynch down, with a side of still scumreading Shadow_step and paraphrasing the message I sent partially.

I'll get a public readslist when I'm fully caught up.

[Ranger]

Can anyone explain why they townread ranger very clearly?

It's called "Ranger is right on her scumreads, and I can see they're right, especially since the only people wondering how she's being townread are her scumreads."

[Ranger]

Ranger, You seemed to have a lot more to say day1. Why less talkative now with more info?

Because I have a relatively safe spot to share it with.

There is a slight risk of prying eyes thanks to the darn monocle item being bought, but otherwise, I can share a lot of thoughts with strong townreads.

The further we go into the game, the more effort I will be giving. On D1, it was low effort everywhere. Here on D2, still low effort in-thread albeit not quite as little, with some amount of effort private but not as much as I theoretically could. That level will increase each day. Maybe D3, maybe D4, probably before D5 but you never know, depends on how many players we have left (the fewer, the easier), but around then I'll be giving a lot more to the game.

[Ranger]

This was my start-of-day readslist:

{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Mixed 6, Almost50}
{Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, randomidget, Toogeloo}
{Zulfy, heuristic_arrow}
{PeregrineV, Shadow_step}
{Patches, Shinobi, Liger}

That's changed since then, albeit not by much.
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers, Sensei, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Mixed 6, Almost50}
{Klingoncelt}
{Hastur, Xkfyu, Toogeloo, Zulfy}
{randomidget}
{heuristic_arrow, Shadow_step}
{PeregrineV}
{Patches, Shinobi, Liger}
randomidget and Shadow_step would probably both be lower if I was making these reads without feedback from the party; there's some amount of trust involved.

[Ranger]

We haven't said anything about randomidget.

You didn't, Cerb did.
He disagrees with my assessment, and I'm not going to press him on that.

[Ranger]

Umm you haven't gone into your case at all.
How has Toogeloo switched from OBVIOUSLY scum to now TOWN.
You went from a hard change in reads with no progression in thoughts.

These are things my townreads get to know,
But my scumreads don't!

Btw, why are people voting Liger? Forgive me if I missed it.

^Shinobi does to Liger what Liger did to Bogre.

If this is the case, why can't she just explain it herself?

I can.

I see no reason to, particularly given people are following my vote without me giving it.

If the wagon begins to shift somewhere I don't want, I'll give the case. Until then, don't see any reason to share.

[Ranger]

Seeing as he was the daughter of Kos, he was quite an important member(more than others) of he scum team(assuming), they wouldn't have wanted him gone so early.

I noted this!

I also said this is why Liger_Zero is scum!

[Ranger]

His predecessor had no strategic reason to go all in on a widely townread player like Rylai, get frustrated, apologize, then replace out.

Counterpoint: he's

Fire Assassin

.
(Oh, whoops, almost put a different second word there. I wonder why?)

Saying that is akin to saying, "Oh, look, Ranger's posting reads, she must be town". In short?

I don't think that exchange made good strategic sense coming from town or scum, myself.

^This. It was null. The slot's actions prior to that, and the replacement's contributions since then, are a much better gauge.

[Ranger]

Has your read on this slot changed any yet? I'm assuming you're still fairly null here.

Do something which isn't null then!

[Ranger]

I'm not buying the excuse that "the game is too big."

Then shoot at me. ;)

Huntmaster vote: Mixed 6.

[Ranger]

I think Ranger carries beasthood and has concerns about attracting the NK that may be town motivated, so much so that she'd rather risk town suspicion/wagon instead.

I should not comment on any of this, for obvious reasons.

I'll say I'm far more concerned about being lynched though.

That and her beast crumb.

I should also not comment on whether I'm a beast or not, but I can say I certainly didn't 'crumb being one.

[Ranger]

Threaded Cane: Liger_Zero, Hastur & Muriel.

[Ranger]

What was the remark about in 1531?

That's a Varsoon in-joke. Where I was a dragon.

;)

[Ranger]

Whoops.

Unvote.

TRANSFORMED Threaded Cane: Liger_Zero, Hastur & Muriel.

[Ranger]

Huntmaster vote: Reasonably Irrational

.
Okay.
I got some homework to do for this game.
First, D&D, to confirm, I did send that message to you, as if there would be any doubt it was me.
Second, RyLina sent a message to me which was very very long and contains a ton of stuff that I'll need to read and paraphrase.
Third, Sensei you wasted your night action 'cause I aint talking in that topic when it's comprised of my two strongest scumreads.
Fourth, I need to actually present the evidence WHY they are my strongest scumreads. I did

some

of it to RyLina for Liger, some to the hunting party (also Liger), a lot on Shinobi for the hunting party (shoulda taken advantage of the extended deadline to alter my message to D&D to include it, but alas, thought didn't cross my mind),
And fifth, I need to actually catch up on the game.

And, yeah.
We're poisoned this badly because of the dungeon. Wasn't too tough with our equipment to take out the boss, but it did leave us with this damage.

[Ranger]

Could you please clarify who exactly is a member?

Your scumbuddies.
(Liger and Shinobi.)

I said she has done something she wouldn't do as scum.

Was the reason the fifth word of post 15 in the Hunter's PT for last night?

Because if it isn't, I'd like to know what post number you're thinking of. I legitimately have no clue what you're talking about.

[Ranger]

I feel like with such a long night, people should be more excited to play.

I would be if I had the energy. (It's suspected I may have a zinc deficiency. No energy is among the symptoms I have, but I have many others which support that hypothesis. Including that...my diet has absolutely zero food in it that contains zinc. I'm gonna try and fix that by myself, and if it doesn't work, go to a doctor.)

I don't like the idea of clearing someone because they are doing town motivated things in another PT, especially the Hunting PT.

I did make it explicit I would get stronger as the game went on. Even now I intend to honor that.

I have a nice pile of probtown, but not enough scumspects.

In the worst case scenario of 4 scum alive, that means 4 scumreads needed.

[Ranger]

Mixed also felt strongly about Liger's towniness.

I suppose I need to reread the Hunt PT because I don't remember it being 'strongly'. I remember it being "Ranger, why is Liger scum?" and "weak town".

VOTE: Liger_Zero.

Still have a ton to do, but at least I'm getting caught up in the game.

[Ranger]

The hunt PT took place during the night, after that.

[Ranger]

Almost quoted Mixed6 (whoops, pretty sure that woulda gotten me modkilled), but...
-"I can be swayed onto Liger".
-"Keep your vote on Liger." (They explicitly told me this.)
-"Lynch Liger."
Multiple instances of that one.
-"I want you to talk more on Liger".
-"I want the case on Liger".

That, just from a quick control-f.
Admittedly, it's not consistent, so it's not like Mixed6 screamed "Liger is a strong scumread!", I think they were going after Liger as a compromise, which...implies a mostly-null read.

[Ranger]

Your other scumreads are good though.

Then why'd you just unvote? Weren't you voting Liger?

[Ranger]

Actually I'd settle for a Ranger readslist.
I don't even need scum, I just need the order of your town.

[Ranger]

MOD: V/LA for today, maybe tomorrow.

Don't have the time to post today, probably will have the time tomorrow but may not, circumstances depending.

[Ranger]

Even the people I am talking to in PTs have said that this is lazy play by her own normal play (supposedly).

Yes.

It is also a large game.

Very explicitly, I said I would basically be lurking for the earlier sections of the game.

At some unspecific point, I'll pick it up and kick it into high gear. If I had to put a timeframe on when...I'd actually say it's "when I feel like I'm needed". And right now, I don't really feel like I'm needed.

you havent given a readslist in over 40 pages.

I was asking Cerb to give a Ranger-style readslist.

If I knew where he stood on every player, even if just by approximate tier, then I'd have a much better reference point for trying to help him, engage with him, and discuss with him.

Though, a readslist from me wouldn't be such a bad idea.
{D&D, Dwlee, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Almost50}
{Klingoncelt, House}
{Hastur, Toogeloo}
{randomidget, Shadow_step, Zulfy}
{PeregrineV}
{Patches, Shinobi, Liger}
Something like this. Below the top two tiers, it's not exact.

[Ranger]

{D&D, Dwlee, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Almost50, Klingoncelt}
{House}
{Hastur, Toogeloo}
{randomidget, Shadow_step, Zulfy}
{PeregrineV}
{Patches, Shinobi, Liger}
I actually feel comfortable enough with Klingoncelt to do this.

[Ranger]

{D&D, Dwlee, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Almost50, Klingoncelt}
{House}
{Hastur, Toogeloo}
{randomidget, Shadow_step, Zulfy, Patches}
{PeregrineV}
{Shinobi, Liger}
Sorry. Forgot to move Patches up. This is mostly trusting D&D though.

[Ranger]

Dwlee/Randomidget/A50/KC/Nahdia.

The only name in there I don't agree with is randomidget.

You must have well reasoned thoughts, share some of them.

I don't have the full picture on the setup. You, and maybe one or two others, are much closer. (Oh, that reminds me. Still need to paraphrase RyLina's message. Sorry, RyLina, that I almost forgot!) So I don't really have any thoughts, at all, whatsoever, that are based off of what players have or haven't claimed. (I still don't like the Patches mechanic, but if D&D says they are town, and they have reasons for it, well, Patches is a scumread off of the mechanic itself and not really for play, which is more null. It's a lot like my randomidget read; see below.)

What I have are thoughts on players' in-game actions.

I still think Liger is scum.
I still think Shinobi is scum.

I get that you don't.
But I also simply don't fully follow, and therefore fundamentally cannot agree with, the logic for why.
I'm willing to trust you on randomidget, even though I don't understand that read, because he'd be a nullscum read of mine (approximately) without your input. But I'm not willing to give that same level of trust for Liger or Shinobi, because as far as I'm concerned...they're walking, breathing, talking scum, off of their play.

I suppose I could present cases, but my cases have partially been made already. Liger's interactions with the Bogre wagon, for instance, were as scummy as could be.
I think that scum this game are largely in the less active players, and that town this game are largely in the more active players. Specifically, the latter you can see as {D&D, Dwlee, Nahdia, Reasonably Irrational, Almost50, Klingoncelt, House}, whereas the former is more {Hastur, Toogeloo, randomidget, Shadow_step, Zulfy, , PeregrineV, Shinobi, Liger}. Some of the active players are more active than others. Some of the inactive players are more inactive than others. But there is still that clear, nearly 50/50 divide, in the playerlist. And I hold firm by that belief.

Frankly, the only way you're going to get much better than this is if I'm fully informed; if I knew everything you knew, then I would be able to give my own take on what info you have and what it means to me compared to you. But that defeats the whole point of asking me for some thoughts in the first place, since presumably a large reason you're asking is because you want to see how I see things from the outside.

I'm sorry, I'm rambling a bit here. (It's getting a little late and I'm beginning to lose coherency.)

Basically, yeah, I have reasons for my reads, but they're all in-thread stuff, and mostly either already explained or very obvious. I should give more, but I don't really think I can, not with where I stand in the town (I don't feel needed).

[Ranger]

For the record: Sensei's nightmare PT is basically unused.
Shinobi and Liger_Zero were both in it at the same time, yet made almost no posts in there.
This was prior to me joining, so "they thought scum were in there" doesn't really apply as a valid reason for them to have been silent.

So I suppose that does add to my Shinobi/Liger scumreads. (Basically, if even one of them was town, I would expect them to make much heavier use of the PT than was there.)

[Ranger]

Pretty sure Zulfys wagon is apathy/boredom/greed induced.

Explicitly so.

I'd join to get a lynch, since I don't really have much of a read on Zulfy one way or another, and lynching a player with his level of contribution

has

worked this game (see also: Bogre), but I wouldn't really join otherwise.

I'd still much rather someone like Liger or Shinobi.

[Ranger]

D'oh.

I coulda SWORN there was an extra day until day started. I didn't get to edit my message. :(

[Ranger]

Ranger will you please post the message R&L sent you that you mentioned yesterDay.

Sure. This is a bit of a quick paraphrase of a long message that was also more relevant yesterday so unfortunately it's probably not quite perfect.

The first section was privately addressed to me. They knew Patches's role (so do I thanks to last night), they told me more or less I was chosen because I supported them when the rest of the town was being idiots, it was Rylai's half speaking during the message, they said that ABR could confirm the sig (whoops, but presumably RyLina sent a message to someone else with the same signature so SOMEONE can confirm), she was a bit disgruntled at being lynched but still wanted to help, sending a(n anime) gif of love. Lina also contributed to the message apparently. They hold a very high opinion of you, House, and trust you to carry the game. They'd be ticked at RI if they thought Reasonably Irrational was town, but they were still convinced as of the time of the message that RI is scum.

They mentioned the reason why they used the gladiate. They identified themselves as negative utility on D1 in part because of it combined with their beasthood. Apparently, they believe their role was meant to be used against bosses in dungeons, the implication being they could instantly bring bosses to L-1 and/or stop them from attacking. The intent in using the role once was to prove their claim, to prove their utility, in order to be elected for dungeons. In short, they wanted to use their power, once, so that they would always be put in the Hunter's Party and be able to use it.

Their role was apparently day-activated, meaning they used it before Bogre flipped, and they believe BOTH Bogre and Shadow_step are scum. It was meant as a vig, and they didn't anticipate Shadow turning it into a gladiate. There's a youtube video for ABR, never watched it so I don't know what it was, can't exactly quote it though so that part of the message is not able to be paraphrased. They attacked randomidget: 2685 contradicts 2422, and they hated the callout of the hunting party as all-scum. There's comments to a couple of players who're now dead, about them being manipulated. (And a bit about them being dumb.)

They insisted 2738 was scumposting, to silence them before they could answer about their role. They think that between Reasonably Irrational's two heads being dumb, or being scum, the latter is infinitely more likely. They think that, after their softclaiming, Cerb not picking up on their role being good for the huntmaster party was scummy, and that the call for the kill on a null read was egregious. They don't like Cerb's lack of strong opinions. They also hated 2741. There's some very vulgar comments made towards 2773. They share my Liger scumread for 2785.

They strongly agreed with 2799. They think 2810 was scumposting. There's a call out of Mixed6's 2829 by mirroring my sentiment: Liger's predecessor was

Fire Assassin

. (Well, they didn't use that name, but same thing.) There seems to be some hydra dissonance; Shiro townreads but Frozen Angel (who wrote the majority of the message) scumreads them.

They 2882 buddying. They said 2954 was not a game-relevant stance, without useful setup spec, and asked me to tell the town to shoot them. They call Dwlee useless-as-scum, lazy-as-town, and say this is the latter. They wanted to clarify their scumread on Cerb has nothing to do with him having the monocles. Thanks to 3195, I THINK they backtracked and said Dwlee was scum, not exactly clear. (The post's largely stream of consciousness.) 3201 was, to them, evidence of Cerb being scum because they thought that the value in seeing how wagons organically form > the value of organizing who's on a wagon. Mentioned something about hypocrisy, too, but that wasn't really clear.

Part five was a readslist. It's a Ranger-styled one, but I'm still not clear on whether I'm allowed to post that. Both heads had me at the top. Mixed6 was universally below that. Reasonably Irrational was universally the bottom tier, with a...

very

lengthy explanation from Lina I can therefore safely paraphrase: Insisting RI was stroking Mixed6's ego and encouraged offing RyLina because they can't be controlled. They insist they were discredited, that this is a scum Elbirn (didn't give the game but claimed recent experience), they also insisted I was semi-confirmed town which might explain my placement.

The final part is a plea for the town to drop their arrogance and see things from each others' point of views. General talking about good luck, loving us all, and a closing anime gif (cherry thumb), with their name, Ice/Fire sisters.

If there's anything in my paraphrase that's important they missed, they can tell someone tonight.
I'm pretty sure I'd be allowed to answer about their individual reads on players, so if you want those I'll provide them.

[Ranger]

Reading their message, Dwlee is in fact a scumread: near bottom or at bottom for both of them. Shadow's low as well. Their central scum bloc could basically be said to be {RI, Dwlee, Shadow}. Their basic townbloc seemed to be {Ranger, Mixed6, Almost50, House, Nahdia, Toogeloo}. The other high/low names varied between the two, but their null lists (well, presumably null; they actually went true-Ranger and din't label them) were {Zulfy, Klingoncelt, D&D, Shinobi}.

[Ranger]

I just realized it was a message from some dumbass without a clue.

A real Ranger message will always be commented on by me the following day.

In this case, 3841 in of itself should be sufficient proof to the person I sent my message to, that I was the one sending the message.

Transformed Beastclaw: Liger

Executioner's Glove: Shinobi

While I approve of both votes, I am very much NOT interested in wagoning

anyone

right now, least of all with special weapons. I want to actually use the time for the phase, not rush things as we have been.

[Ranger]

Not that it's likely to count, but.
VOTE: Nahdia.
Huntmaster Vote: House.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Nahdia.
Huntmaster's Vote: Klingoncelt.

Not that it matters.

AGAIN.
>:I

[Ranger]

VOTE: Patches the Spider.

[Ranger]

Is that lynch immunity just for today?

Need to know, for at least attempting to lynch Nahdia on future days reference.

[Ranger]

What really got to me was the amount of people decrying the setup entirely, while others still didn't care to play at all.

I may have expressed this view, but if so, I can say it was a lie.

I had no problem, Varsoon!

I did empathize with the town a lot, though. I wasn't locked out of the loop because Klingoncelt and Nahdia were feeding me information about literally every player (because between those two, basically every role was known in some capacity!), but a town-me faking not having that knowledge was something that was frustrating. (Multiple times, I almost scumslipped when players were discussing things and I had to think, "Do I know this about them?" And when I realized I shouldn't, I was forced to delete my posting on a subject. Sometimes, this even ran the other way, where I forgot things I should have known, because I was SO worried that they were things I shouldn't!)

I SUCK AT MAFIA

More like, you suck at reading Ranger. :P

Everyone

(well, basically everyone) misread Nahdia, and most people misread Klingoncelt, but of the three actual members of the game (given Bogre's absence), I was pretty much the weak link and you didn't catch me.

Which I was kind-of surprised about.
People seemed to have forgotten that in literally

my first post

, I had claimed, "I have a negative utility".
The

plan

I had was that I was gonna claim miller, but then, two miller claims were made and I learned that millers count towards scum totals so I was like, "lolNOPE, NOT HAPPENING NOW" towards that idea, and yet, nobody called me out on it.
I was never once asked to claim. I privately communicated my status as bulletproof to a few key players, but I said there was more to my role and nobody bothered to inquire.

...Then again, this game suffered from "MONEY MONEY GRAB GRAB I NEED TO LYNCH" combined with "SHINY SHINY WEAPON I NEED TO STAB". :P

Mad props to Nahdia though. She was the champion of the scum. Klingoncelt was strong, too.
I said it in the scum PT: I don't think my play was weak. But this most

certainly

would not have been a scum win if I didn't have two really great scum partners doing an awesome job.

[Ranger]

Also, I found it amusing.
I signed up for this game after Killer Instinct.
Explicitly, I was a bulletproof there, and I wanted to be in this game because thanks to the Nightmares and the anonymous messages, I would always be able to scumhunt.

...This game, I got bulletproof AGAIN.
And I lived, AGAIN.
And scum won, AGAIN.

...The only difference was in the alignment of the bulletproof!

Was fun, for what little my part in it was. I don't have the ability to devote as much time to games as I should, especially not larges, so I can't say I would have been more active as town. I also don't think my reads on Liger or Shinobi would've been different. The main differences would probably have been that I would have moved a bunch of other players around more, like Mixed6 in particular.

Blaming the setup for the town loss is silly, because it wasn't even scumsided. Heck scum lost a scum day 1.

I'd say the game was extremely swingy, but was fair for both sides. It's just that half the town players got super-duper greedy and tried to control things, and that alienated the other half of the players who as a result just felt apathetic.

This would have been fine if there were no scum in the townbloc, because then the town would be controlling every lynch. While mislynches, they'd be lynches outside the bloc, and the scum (with less resources) would be limited in what they could do to counter.

The main problem was...there

were

scum in the townbloc.
Two, actually, because between Klingoncelt and Nahdia, I don't think there was a single day where at least one of them wasn't involved in some intimate, private details that town did not want scum to be privy to.

[Ranger]

Yea Ranger had us so convinced we sent her our big message..

By the way, not my fault that I didn't post that.
I was having some trouble in real-life, and then the speed-lynch happened at a time I was not around. We were busy coordinating and talking and discussing and there were just more important things I needed to be spending my time on, so I couldn't get around to it until the next day. I posted it the first moment I had the opportunity to.

I knew you had messaged House after that with suspicion on me for not having done so; House...wasn't exactly subtle.

I have to say my role seemed quite weak compared to others

Just think about my role.
Nahdia? Patches, controls a nightmare, has some really awesome abilities.
Klingoncelt? Strongman, controls a nightmare, has some really awesome abilities.
Bogre? Controls a nightmare, has some really awesome abilities.
Me?
...Had...a bulletproof.

As scum

. Was a beast. And gained beasthood that could be used...to purchase two relatively-worthless abilities. (In comparison, look at what beasthood abilities TOWN beast players got. They could DESTROY the scum if they got enough beasthood.)

I wasn't just the weakest player in my team because of my personality!

I knew from day 1 patches wasn't town xD

And I told you with my posting that Patches wouldn't be town!

[Ranger]

In KC's role PM, there's an ability which details how a player can achieve a secret 3rd party win condition if they hammer her while at 7 insight.
What Varsoon FORGOT to include was that the person hammering has to be TOWN. So I immediately started plotting how I could ally myself with town and promise them two scum removed from the game if they helped me.

Then he clarified

(Nahdia wasn't the only one with the idea, either; I had it too.)

LOL

I read that, too.

Was quite amused.

It's how I immediately found out RI came back to life

I knew RI had come back to life because Shinobi opened his big mouth in the nightmare PT. It's just that by the time he had done so, you had already figured it out. If you hadn't, then Shinobi telling us RI's (very very CURRENT) strategies would have.

Also can I get any tips for becoming better beyond "post more" which I think I got as hard as that will be because aaaaaugh smart people will be reading my posts and they'll all immediately think I'm stupid ^_^'

Wall less. I skipped your walls because as scum they didn't matter to me, but as town I would have held little interest in reading them.

She uses Beasthood!

There was only one time where we were in an awkward situation of me not having it when we thought it would be useful though, and that was largely because of two quicklynches

in a row

stopping me from getting on the lynch. If I had been on the lynch, I would've gotten the beasthood necessary for that.

Otherwise, my beasthood was...very largely useless.

I didn't force the issue when she mentioned not wanting to make the kills.

Psychological holdover. As bulletproof scum, the only thing that could get me dead was the lynch. Getting caught red-handed by a kill would be doing exactly that, so I wanted to avoid it.

[Ranger]

Hobbes and I both came from a forum where behind the scenes PMing and deals and such were common.

So do I! It's one reason why I loved the idea of this game so much.

I was kind-of disappointed I landed in a spot where it was largely irrelevant.

I used to have a reputation for being the person ABUSING this mechanic to basically auto-clear literally half the game and narrow down the wolves to a specific set of people.
So much so, that after the game where I did this best, the next moderator I played a game with specifically outlawed the practice for their game!

But as scum, and also when out-voiced by far more vocal players, it wasn't as relevant as normal.
I got messages from House and RyLina, which was my own personal bloc of sorts, but not much came of it otherwise.

I felt people were too harsh on Frozen Angel. Her action was a day action. Using a vig once, and ONLY once, is a common, valid strategy as town in many games, to prove you have the power. Shadow_step was also a liar about his powers. He was town, but he was still lying, whereas Frozen Angel wasn't. So I thought the way the first half of D2 went was a mistake. While RyLina were townreading me, I feel like in the longrun, they raised many valid points that should have been listened to by the power-bloc (namely, Mixed6 and RI), but which were ignored.

They certainly weren't shining examples of town play, but...bluntly, nobody this game was. Needless to say, though, I was a lot more empathetic to them than I was to the power-bloc.

[Ranger]

HA was a "party compromise".

A party you created...which

had two scum in it

.

Not just one, but two.

I think there is a lot of toxicity and holier-than-thou attitudes going about in the post-game, and frankly, I think that's the main reason the divide in the town existed in the first place. There was a rift in the town. The players most trying to close the rift were actually the scum. I tried to play mediator, Klingoncelt tried to play mediator, Nahdia tried to play mediator, but many players on both sides did not.

Now, while I empathize with Frozen Angel et all more than I do with Mixed6/RI, I think both sides can recognize they were guilty of that, and it shows even here in postgame where I'm seeing a lot of blame on the other side as being the reason and not acknowledging both sides had their strengths and their flaws, and the true inability of the town to win was in an inability to bridge the gap.

[Ranger]

If this game were up to me scum would have gotten fucked.

The problem is, you don't own a town.
When you try...

this

game happens.
Trying to own a town never works out well, regardless of how good you think you are in comparison to the others.

Ranger should be day 1 policy lynch in every game.

Won't work out so well.

What you need to do in games is not think about my activity. (That's null.) You shouldn't be thinking about my readslists, per se.
What you should be doing is focusing on what I'm doing while I'm actually around.

In that regard, this was actually one of my stronger scum games, since I was showing faked-but-feeling-genuine frustration at "lack of knowledge", and I was trying to play mediator between two sides. So maybe it wouldn't have worked this game. But in general, that's how *I* catch people, and it works on me just as well as it works on others.

To be fair, she's usually way more active. This just Ranger in a large game :\

^This. The difference between my play in this game as town and my play in this game as scum would be minimal. I'm sure there would be small, subtle differences here and there, but I had zero interest in becoming a strong voice in the early parts of the game, and by the time it was later in the game, we were dealing with quicklynches I wasn't online for so even if I WAS interested in becoming a strong voice, the opportunity never would've arisen.

[Ranger]

Shadow was conftown when bogre picked him for his nightmare pt.

Except, he didn't.
Shadow lied.

He was town, but he was lying.
Bogre didn't choose anyone. Shadow was there since the start.
Furthermore, you're continuing to show ignorance to the mechanics in play.
Their action was a day action, during D1, before Bogre was lynched.
They did not have Bogre's flip in mind when they made their vig.
And they weren't the ones who chose to gladiate.
That was Shadow.

Which is, again, why I sympathize a lot with Frozen Angel. (Though, Frozen Angel, my dear, I can't say you're blameless either, sorry. <3)

[Ranger]

2) The scum team, except Nahdia, also sucked.

I disagree.
I would not say I played a strong scum game. Only Nahdia did, with Klingoncelt very closely behind but not

quite

at that high of a level.
But I don't think this was a weak game. This was a Large game. It is the first Large game as scum that I have survived in. (For that matter, it's the first Large game I've survived in, period.) That, in of itself, is an accomplishment. Then you get how there was never once a serious push on me, and how neither Nahdia nor Klingoncelt needed to come to my rescue. Given that, I don't think I was a load to my scumteam. I held my own.

I think my play was, therefore, thoroughly mediocre: good enough to get by, but not noteworthy. An average scum game, nothing special, but nothing terrible either.
Klingoncelt definitely did not suck. She was considered obvtown by most of the game, and many of our best decisions were spearheaded by her. Her idea of having an all-town hunting party D1? All on her. She played really well, and if memory serves, also did not have any serious wagon on her at any time and was seen as even less suspicious than I was overall to players.

Bogre though totally sucked, yes.

9) The town sucks, again. You all KNEW that Nahdia was scum, and had to be lynched, and yet nobody fucking showed up? Except Shinobi, who is a boss for doing so. Like, wtf guys? Do you realize that she had a lynch threshold of *3*, and if any single other person had shown up, she would have been lynched and the game saved?

I think the damage was done.

Nahdia could still control her nightmare. Klingoncelt could control hers. Between those two, they could do some serious damage to the town even with Nahdia dead. Plus, for all of the claims that we would be lynched...would we have been lynched? There were talks of H&A being lynched, talks of PV being lynched, talks of me being lynched, and so on; I didn't quite see the level of coherent AND accurate scumreads that would be needed to win the game, so I'm pretty sure the game was lost for the town even if Nahdia died.

[Ranger]

You told me that Ranger AND KC were essentially conf town when I scumread them.

Klingoncelt was understandable.
I flat-out TOLD Cerb,

in this thread

, he shouldn't be townreading me though, so I'm not sure WHAT gave him the idea I was conftown.

I certainly didn't do anything warranting that comment as far as I know.

So, yeah, curious about that.

The Ranger thing was purely because she deliberately wasted a mechanical bonus. Ranger: Was that a mistake, or was it calculated?

Uhh...you're gonna have to tell me what the mechanical bonus I wasted was, because I have absolutely no freakin' clue what you're talking about.
...Given that?
Probably like, 90% certain it was a "mistake". Because legit have no idea what you could possibly be referring to. My role as far as I know was borderline useless. If there was some SUPER AWESOME SCUM UTILITY in it, I sure didn't see it.

[Ranger]

I'm currently in 2 ongoing games. I will not be posting in either of then tonight. Why? Because I'm going to read through all the stuff for this game and that will take most of my night.

This is me right now, except I'm in a lot more than 2 and as such cannot afford to not post in them and will be doing so...

...After I finish getting caught up on the postgame here.

[Ranger]

Team Awsome!

Eh, Nahdia and you were awesome.
Me, I just played my part.

Was actually kinda refreshing.
This felt like Blitz 1 all over again as far as my role on the scumteam went: just be there, be around, say stuff, and survive long enough for my partners to dominate the game.
It may only be mediocre-level scumplay, but if I'm fully honest with myself, I think I enjoy myself most when I'm not the driving force of a scumteam and can sit back and let that happen.

your just disgusting

FA, as much as I adore you, I'm with Nahdia (and by proxy, Cerb) on this one. He did make a mistake, I feel like I've made that evident enough, but I also feel like you're letting your own emotions get the better of you right now and you're not able to understand where he's coming from. He didn't make the shot maliciously. He made a calculation and made a mistake. It happens to us all.

[Ranger]

Actually, Ranger, a bigger problem than the scum in the townblock thing, imo, was the quicklynches.

Which were caused by the townbloc and the strongest opponent to the townbloc, respectively.

Thus, my point. It quite literally was,
"I'M DOING THIS MY WAY."
"You got your way. SCREW THAT, NOW IT'S MY TURN."
That feels like an accurate summary of the quicklynches.

I like to think of this game as town collectively being horrible and Nahdia and ranger being godly.

Nahdia was godly.
I was just there for moral support. ^_^

its about being insulted in a game and being treated like a peace of shit after it.

I recognize this and feel like players are being overly harsh on you, but I also feel like you could apply your own words and realize what kind of treatment you're giving to Cerberus, when he's probably already feeling lousy for how the game went.

[Ranger]

Ranger, you've been ignoring my posts. Why?

It may be postgame, but I'm still proceeding chronologically.

[Ranger]

I assure you, in a game where town could have actually talked during the day/been able to lynch normally, your team was going to get chain lynched(assuming my survival), with the only uncertainty being whether we'd lynch you or shinobi third, with the other coming fourth.

And I assure you, in a game where town could have actually talked during the day and been able to lynch normally, our play would have been different.

While my general activity this game was not alignment-indicative, if I at all felt threatened so much as once in the game, I would have been able to position myself more favorably. I simply never felt the need to.

Oh, it was just that you wasted your poison knife on the hunt. There was no reason for you to use it, KC had enough votes to finish off the boss. I couldn't imagine scum!ranger deliberately throwing away something that could literally be the difference between a win and a loss, and you did.

That should've been a scumslip, actually.
I had Nahdia(and by proxy, Patches).
I had Klingoncelt, who also had accumulated many resources.
Between those two players...I really thought my own votes would be absolutely irrelevant. I didn't need extra votes to win, because I had two of the largest power-players on my team to fill that role. If one died, the other would take up the mantle and be next.

Cerb buddy friend, you do realise they made theirselves obvious because they knew they were going yo quicklynch chain you.

That, too.

[Ranger]

Now, the quicklynches: they were ALL about individuals saying fuck you to the group. First ABR, and then House.

One in the bloc, and one outside, like I said.

You abused your powers to show off and it was complete anti town behaviour.

As I have indicated, I feel this is overly harsh criticism of her play.
Her action was used on D1. She used it in a reasonable manner: you were one of the largest scumreads outside of Bogre (and if you think otherwise, you're delusional), and it made sense to target you, especially not knowing Bogre's alignment. It is considered STANDARD vig play to shoot N1 once, to show you have that power. She did so, on a player many were suspicious of. If you cannot recognize the value there because it just so happened to be YOUR slot she vigged, I'm not sure what else to say.

It was a shot on town. It was, therefore, a sub-optimal shot. It was not, however, the anti-town shot you are so strongly portraying it to be.