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Hi all...
Y'all are going to love this...
I'm negative utility, and no I absolutely will not read the last hundred + pages and plop out some half-baked reads wall with no context.
I will ISO players I interact with them or as they draw my attention.
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Not liking this...In post 2404, Liger_Zero wrote:
Because a 1v1 at a start of the day is anti town......In post 2401, Shadow_step wrote:I had two choices, either I could flee hope for a protection and survive the shot or battle it out against whoever tried to kill me last night.
I know my alignment, why should I choose to die?
Shadow KNOWS what his alignment is. If he's town, it's pro-town for him to stay alive and face his would be killer instead of simply dying which deprives town of a vote.
If he loses the gladiation, he bought time to impact the game. If he wins, we learn about someone else.-
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Perhaps after I finish reading d2's start.In post 2921, Mixed6 wrote:
Hey House. Read the first 15 pages. The rest of it is mostly Frozen arguing with RI, holding the town hostage, and completely losing it.In post 2919, House wrote:Hi all...
Y'all are going to love this...
I'm negative utility, and no I absolutely will not read the last hundred + pages and plop out some half-baked reads wall with no context.
I will ISO players I interact with them or as they draw my attention.
Bring the pain!-
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Is to me.In post 2926, Liger_Zero wrote:
This isn't a new comment.In post 2925, House wrote:
Not liking this...In post 2404, Liger_Zero wrote:
Because a 1v1 at a start of the day is anti town......In post 2401, Shadow_step wrote:I had two choices, either I could flee hope for a protection and survive the shot or battle it out against whoever tried to kill me last night.
I know my alignment, why should I choose to die?
Shadow KNOWS what his alignment is. If he's town, it's pro-town for him to stay alive and face his would be killer instead of simply dying which deprives town of a vote.
If he loses the gladiation, he bought time to impact the game. If he wins, we learn about someone else.-
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If scum does in fact have the monocle, as is believed to be the case, you are only depriving town of information, not scum.
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He backs out of a scum lunch, refuses to share his thought processes, tries to direct lynched with nothing more than "trust me guys", and you think he's town?In post 2915, Mixed6 wrote:
You need to prove yourself first by being on a scum lynch today. Backing out from Bogre yesterday did you no favors, but your actions from here on out may yet redeem you.In post 2912, Liger_Zero wrote:Mixed I think I might be a good choice for Huntmaster for next round.
I don't.
VOTE: Liger_Zero-
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From scum reading Liger yesterday to deflecting attention from his weapon today.
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Toog,
Midget went from a town read to one of your top three desired lynches. Why?-
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EBWOPIn post 2936, House wrote:From scum reading Liger yesterday to deflecting attention from hisweaponwagon today.
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So did Toog.In post 2935, Mixed6 wrote:She backed off from the lynch as soon as she saw an opportunity to, then got back on as soon as it was inevitable.-
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Toog got on it ugly.In post 2941, Mixed6 wrote:And Toog never got off. The way Nahdia got off wasn't pretty.
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In post 2939, House wrote:
So did Toog.In post 2935, Mixed6 wrote:She backed off from the lynch as soon as she saw an opportunity to, then got back on as soon as it was inevitable.-
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In other news, I somehow confused Liger with Ranger, irt not sharing info.
Weird.
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... Toog was on the wagon without you here, and it went up to L-2, so you can't say your wagon was the only one that counts.In post 2175, Varsoon wrote:"No matter their pasts, beasts are no more than beasts. Some choose this axe to play the part of executioner."
-Hunter Axe DescriptionVOTECOUNT 1.17
Bogre (8):Xkfyu, Randomidget, Ranger, Hastur and Muriel, Toogeloo, Nahdia, Almost50, Sensei
Shadow_Step (2):Shinobi, Bogre
randomidget (2):Klingoncelt, PeregrineV
Hastur and Muriel (2):Reasonably Irrational, Liger_Zero
Shinobi (1):Shadow_Step
Gee Willikers (1):Rylai and Lina (BLOODLETTER)
Rylai and Lina (1):Patches the Spider
Patches the Spider (1):Zulfy
Not Voting (3):Heuristic_Arrow, Gee Willikers, Mixed6
With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.: (expired on 2016-06-06 23:00:00)
Deadline
The Master of the Hunt isKlingoncelt
The Hunter's Party isMixed6, Shinobi, and Almost50
The Chosen Chalice Ritual isPthumeru Chalice - Depth 1.
Available Chalice Dungeons:Spoiler:
Spoiler: HUNTMASTER VOTE
Fuck off with that noise.
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That being the case, my original point stands that Toog slinked off the wagon and back on, just like Nahdia.In post 2958, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Eh, they did create the push entirely. They left the wagon to resolve "something", and then came back and pushed evwryone to finish it off.
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In post 2959, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Also, it's good to see you house, haven't played in a game together since like my first game on site or something. ^^
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Meh. Ok.
This is why I hate trying to look back over old crap when I sub in.-
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Do I ever.In post 2965, Mixed6 wrote:Are you going to apologize?
I actually acquiesced. You should feel honored.-
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Okay, for that statement I apologize.In post 2967, Mixed6 wrote:"Fuck off with that noise"? I'm trying to help you. Why are you being rude to me?
The rest, not so much.-
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Nor did I insult you by telling you to fuck off.In post 2969, Mixed6 wrote:Good. You didn't insult me in your other posts, why would I want an apology for those?
Look at Dragons. Look at arrow. Tell me what you think.
Crude language in itself is not an insult of the person it's directed at. Idk why you'd think it is.-
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Not interested in lynching there any time soon.In post 2969, Mixed6 wrote: Look at Dragons. Look at arrow. Tell me what you think.-
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In post 2973, Toogeloo wrote: That answer all the questions?In post 2937, House wrote:Toog,
Midget went from a town read to one of your top three desired lynches. Why?-
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You'd rather lynch three town reads over a scum read for 'reasons'.In post 2986, Toogeloo wrote:
I wouldn't say it's really changed. I think you are oversimplifying the hierarchy of the list. You are still fairly high on my town read, as was most everyone above you. Maybe it would have helped if I had put a fairly large gap between you and House's slot? I did that post from a strictly analytical point of view as well. Nahdia isn't a bigger town read than you for example, she's just not someone I want to lynch at this very moment for "reasons."In post 2975, Randomnamechange wrote:Still haven't explained why your read on me changed.
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When did I vote Toog, again?In post 2990, Shinobi wrote:
Do you feel differently about Ranger for some reason or another? You were fine voting Toog but never followed up with Ranger iirc.In post 2949, House wrote:In other news, I somehow confused Liger with Ranger, irt not sharing info.
Weird.
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I didn't put my vote on anyone after my identity confusion because I clearly don't have a handle on the game state yet.-
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I was reading Liger's ISO but I was still bothered about Ranger's secrecy because it seems counterproductive.In post 2993, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
How did you mix these two up?In post 2949, House wrote:In other news, I somehow confused Liger with Ranger, irt not sharing info.
Weird.
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Mixed you guys think Liger avoiding the Bogre lynch and trying to support the slot was town?
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Not the first time I've confused myself, won't be the last.-
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That was my knee jerk reaction, but since they had already used their ability yesterday, they might have done it to avoid future scrutiny down the road.In post 2992, Daenerys and Dragons wrote: I know this wasn't aimed at me but Almost getting rid of Rylai and Lina and ending the gladiate is a super pro-town move and scum had no reason to do that.
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Of course, Almost could have claimed non-consecutive, but it'd have tied their hands down the road... but still, I think it was more pro-town than manipulation.-
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Please explain how Toog is neutral town to you, considering his worthlessness d1 and his redonkulously inconsistent lynch preferences.In post 2876, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:Finished 17.
Town: (Yume), Reasonable, Dragon, Ranger
Lean Town: Gee, Xk, Sensei, Nahdia
Neutral Town: Rylai, Toog
Null: Fire, Random, Peregine
Neutral Scum: Shadow, Shinobi
Lean Scum: Patches, Mixed
Scum: Zuffy, Almost, Bogre
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Ah, apparently Arrow is actually reading that huge pile of lollersauce...?-
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I'm seeing a lot of discussion from/about some players and there are others that aren't talking or being mentioned much.
Can I get some opinions on these folks, please?
Hastur and Muriel
Klingoncelt
Randomidget
Zulfy
PeregrineV
Gee Willikers
Patches the Spider-
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Bussing is a thing. You know this.In post 3024, Mixed6 wrote:
Toog never did anything, you and House keep trying to say he hopped off, no, he came in at the time when we needed the momentum, consistently stuck through despite the mod warning us that he would replace the Bogre slot, and stayed on until we managed to quickhammer Bogre. Toog is town.In post 3018, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:The "reasons I don't feel like stating" quote is from early Day 1 lol.
I went and reviewed Nahdia's ISO around the Bogre lynch and yeah it's not so hot. A question though - what separates Nahdia's "wagon dismantling attempt" from Liger and Toog, who also stated similar things? You're townreading Liger so it doesn't make sense.
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Liger was consistently against lynching a slot which would be replaced, which makes sense considering he had just replaced Fire Assassin. Liger is town.
Nahdia, on the other hand, completely flip flopped around, attempted to destroy the momentum of the wagon, was the first to unvote after Varsoon's interference, and did everything in her power to stop that wagon (it feels wrong...we shouldn't do this...), and after ALL THAT, she STILL placed her vote on him to stop town from getting the blood echoes. She's scum.
So giving out such a cheap town read just because you were literally sheeped, because scum can do it too.
Look at his play outside of that wagon and tell me what you see town there.-
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Why would you do something at night with a slot you scum read?In post 3055, Toogeloo wrote:Ugh...fine.
Unvote;
Vote: Nahdia
Sorry sweetie. Last night might be a bust.
VOTE: Nahdia
The more you post, the worse you look.
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Like a night kill, perhaps?In post 3058, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:I just realized something while looking at the shop. The Monocular costed 8000 echoes, but Bogre's lynch only rewarded 6000 echoes. So scum have something either making stuff cheaper for them orgiving them echoes.-
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(To Nahdia) "Last night might be a bust" + "not voting Nahdia today for 'reasons'" = more than a simple message, imho.In post 3059, Mixed6 wrote:
He sent her a message last night.In post 3057, House wrote:Why would you do something at night with a slot you scum read?-
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Hah, two posts above that proves me right.In post 3065, Mixed6 wrote:In post 2674, Toogeloo wrote:In other news... I sent my private message to Nahdia last night. Hoping she got it.
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Cool, buying Toog's claim for now.-
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Just because I believe Toog's claim doesn't mean i think he's incapable of recruiting scum into his neighborhood.-
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Question...In post 3085, Mixed6 wrote:You're under suspicion for being scumbuddies with Nahdia. I have another vote at my disposal, and a well armed party that haven't even voted yet. Reveal what you know.
What if we pass on Nahdia today and Dragons send you their reasons tonight?
That way, it's not out there for all of scum.
We can revisit Nahdia the following day if the reasons are garbage.-
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If you're NK'ed and there's no compelling case from Dragons, we follow through on the Nahdia lynch anyway.In post 3091, Mixed6 wrote:Nah I'll be NK'd.-
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And scum will likely read it.In post 3094, Mixed6 wrote:They could use an insight today and open a PT with me to tell me in private.-
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This is bad and you should feel bad.In post 3099, Heuristic_Arrow wrote: In other news: I'd be ok with a Nahdia lynch, but still currently prefer a Mixed6 lynch.
If you're scum reading Mixed, why would you be willing to vote his lynch target?
After all, if Mixed is scum, he bussed hard d1 all so he could stick around to sell... a Nahdia mislynch?
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No. You don't get off that easy.In post 3106, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:I already explained that, tyvm.
Just because you think both of them 'may' be scum does not mean they both 'are' scum, especially considering scum was bussed d1 either way according to your suspicions.
So if Mixed is scum, as you prefer to think, he hard bussed d1 in order to buy the towncred to mislynch d2.
If you seriously think this is happening,
1) Please for the love of God, sell your case.
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Answer my question.In post 3114, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:In post 3110, House wrote:
No. You don't get off that easy.In post 3106, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:I already explained that, tyvm.
Just because you think both of them 'may' be scum does not mean they both 'are' scum, especially considering scum was bussed d1 either way according to your suspicions.
So if Mixed is scum, as you prefer to think, he hard bussed d1 in order to buy the towncred to mislynch d2.
If you seriously think this is happening,
1) Please for the love of God, sell your case.
2) Why would you be okay with your scumspect's target today, the day immediately following his supposed hard bus?
Go ISO the hydra and stop being hard-headed. I already explained once and my reads have not really changed since then.
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1) Already read it. It does not answer my question, which is why I asked it.In post 3116, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
For lazy HouseIn post 2875, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
Your tone read as sarcastic to me.In post 2871, Nahdia wrote:if 220 and 222 were really scummy for both Mixed6 and I, how come I'm at neutral scum and he's at scum lean?
For whatever reason, Mixed then takes your post as completely genuine which makes me raise an eyebrow -- Mixed should imo not take such a post so literally, so it makes it look scummy to me because I completely don't buy Mixed's response.
The associated read on you is more a side-effect than the main thing resulting from the interaction, but your wording really sounded sarcastic in nature, so I strongly question why Mixed so readily accepted it.
Hope that makes my stance clearer there.
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Pedit: Doesn't change my read of Mixed, but maybe Nahdia. I cannot believe that Mixed just backed down like that to sarcasm after giving a death threat shortly before.
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2) Transparent doubting noted.
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Right, including sell their team down the river one after another?In post 3122, Heuristic_Arrow wrote: Don't ever doubt what scum will or will not do. They do it all.
There's a term for that, it's called playing against one's wincon, and it's a modkill offense.
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No brainchild, this is about Mixed6.In post 3129, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
Well when we start killing off scum after scum without getting modkilled, at that point I guess you'll know we are town. Either way scum are getting killed so it's a win/win for youIn post 3126, House wrote:
Right, including sell their team down the river one after another?In post 3122, Heuristic_Arrow wrote: Don't ever doubt what scum will or will not do. They do it all.
There's a term for that, it's called playing against one's wincon, and it's a modkill offense.
In short, I think you're full of crap.
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If he's scum selling out his team, as you seem to believe, it's a modkill offense.
I buy his push because he was accurate yesterDay and I don't think he'd be stupid enough as scum to bus back to back on the first two days of the game.
You are willing to follow your supposed scumspect's read even after he bussed hard d1 which put scum at a disadvantage and makes their wincon that much more difficult without having their members turn on each other.
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Not a one-off, no. But are you telling me if a scum member sells out their entire team that it doesn't fit the definition of playing against their own wincon?-
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And mine, for that matter... but there's a right way and wrong way to do it.In post 3136, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
>RadiantCowbells's scum gameIn post 3135, House wrote:@mod:
Not a one-off, no. But are you telling me if a scum member sells out their entire team that it doesn't fit the definition of playing against their own wincon?
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Dude,In post 3141, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:@House
Are you telling me in the hundreds of games you've played on this site, you've never seen a mafia bus their entire team? I would think you should know better, and thus I am inclined to believe that you are using this flawed logic in attempts to manipulate others into lynching town.
HueryI'vebussed my entire team. More than once.
As I've already stated, which is what you should have pushed on instead of this forced b/s.-
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That post was obsolete before you caught up to it.In post 3147, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
Ah, yes, pointing fingers at people when someone is trying to catch up properly.In post 3134, House wrote:Mixed, I want Arrow tomorrow.
If you want accurate reads, let me catch up rather than deal with this stupid argument that is entirely pointless and invalid.
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Maybe so, but me getting a bead on you is a higher priority to me than you completing a self-imposed reading assignment.In post 3150, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
Ok jerk.In post 3148, House wrote:
That post was obsolete before you caught up to it.In post 3147, Heuristic_Arrow wrote:
Ah, yes, pointing fingers at people when someone is trying to catch up properly.In post 3134, House wrote:Mixed, I want Arrow tomorrow.
If you want accurate reads, let me catch up rather than deal with this stupid argument that is entirely pointless and invalid.
~Arrow
I'm still on like pg 22 out of 80+ pages in D1. You do realize this argument just slows me down, right?
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Arrow, where is a question?In post 3155, House wrote: Maybe so, but me getting a bead on you is a higher priority to me than you completing a self-imposed reading assignment.-
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