Please don't hammer anyone until I get to read the thread, I see that Nacho getting killed is a relevant part of the discussion and I definitely want to determine how OK with that I am before it occurs.
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Hello please don't injure me I'm here because I make bad life choices
Please don't hammer anyone until I get to read the thread, I see that Nacho getting killed is a relevant part of the discussion and I definitely want to determine how OK with that I am before it occurs.
also i'm here to lynch good players so they'll sign up for my game"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I will attempt to limit the degree to which my catch up posts are super annoying by keeping as much as I can in my head.
I don't understand this post.In post 290, Nachomamma8 wrote:
The real question: can I be fucked to fake cop results?In post 284, Axelrod wrote:
Come on Nacho, take a stand!In post 192, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think that hypoing the results is probably the way to go if that's how we want to do things. I'm not sure that's the way that we want to do things.
Right now, probably not. Tomorrow, sure.
I was thinking Brian was town, but this fits my experience as well. However, I pretty frequently cannot be fucked to follow things like that due to limited attention span.In post 307, kuribo wrote:I might just be half asleep, but I had a REALLY hard time just now following his progression from "I don't know Fate so I don't trust him to be king," to "I found Fate's platform reasonable, I want him to be king," and back to "Katsuki should be king."
In post 318, Antihero wrote:
cops claim resultsIn post 316, Spiffeh wrote:Wtf is hypo copping
non-cops make up results and claim those
What on earth was so town about anything Anti had done up to this point? And yes, I know he's me.In post 319, Spiffeh wrote:Never shoot Antihero either
A) I think everyone has gotten all up in Godz's grill basically for being a new player and kind of think he is townG[o wrote:dz post_id=7934775 time=1463812194 user_id=15399 post_num=323]
Thank you for giving me tips. I will keep your advice in mind when giving reads in the future. I apologise for being so incompetent - please don't think ill of me because I am not explaining reads like others are.In post 302, kuribo wrote:heres the thing
it's not enough to know what your kinda-sorta-reads are
we need to know WHY you have those reads
if it's just gut or whatever, say so, but "oh i'm not getting into it" and "oh, i can't explain it"
if you want to help, then help, but tossing out fence-sitty platitudes isn't helping the rest of us
B) But wow this is such a bizarre reaction.
Currently, my top suspects are SirCakez and implosion. The latter I suspect might just be a tonally weird person who doesn't post the way I would post. I expect these scumreads to change early and often."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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G[o wrote:dz post_id=7934841 time=1463814751 user_id=15399 post_num=343]"I have a could shots in mind" "Guess who" "It's zakk"
Yeah, I suppose if you squint, that could be interpreted as a scum read. My bad. You've given a read. Two if we count spiffeh. Now three if we count me. Zero town reads and zero explanations (wait, isn't it unhelpful to do that?) and, more to the point, zero scum hunting effort. If I'm being really, really, really generous, "does he always act like this?" is maybe scum hunting? Not really, though. So still, no.
You go off about how I'm not being helpful and shit. Where's your fucking explanations? You've been asked and refused to elaborate. Why are you "spamming" and "shitposting"?
And now we've gone from weirdly apologetic to weirdly aggressive. I am not really sure what to do with this and will probably not post about it for a while.G[o wrote:dz post_id=7934850 time=1463815135 user_id=15399 post_num=345]Oh, actually, you did ask KittyMo why he thinks Skybird is a scum. Technically that could be construed as scum hunting, too. I guess it's not fair to say zero.
I think it's best to rephrase: the amount of scum hunting and the reads you've given is so pitiful in comparison to the amount of posts you've made that have nothing to do with finding scum that I think it's more likely you're not fighting for justice than not."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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In post 409, implosion wrote:In post 361, Skybird wrote:
Why? I'm viewing his contributions so far as null.In post 352, implosion wrote:zakk is another good candidate for town.In post 393, kuribo wrote:Zakk's posting feels devoid of content but to me it's more like the free and casual posting one makes when they know they're town
A lot of my reason was the same as kuribo's. In particular his "I'm willing to hammer katsuki." The only other thing was the timing of his godz townread. But actually looking back I'm willing to drop him as a townread in light of this.In post 395, SirCakez wrote:Zakk posts like that as scum though Kuribo. I was just scum with him in Killer Instinct and he posted similarly.
I think that is the opposite of scummy.In post 431, implosion wrote:
I just gave spiffeh as one at the bottom of the previous page.In post 428, The Pied Piper wrote:
Do you have any scumreads?In post 352, implosion wrote:zakk is another good candidate for town.
I also think kuribo is a decent scum candidate. I'm still not sure what to make of some of the inconsistencies in attitude he's shown (there's the one Fate mentioned, and one other that I don't remember atm). His apparent uncertainty as to whether to take the game seriously or HUEUEUEYAHIEO reads as potentially scum trying to gauge what kind of game it's going to be or generally just being self-conscious.
Meh.In post 474, Spiffeh wrote:Nacho I'm finding it very difficult to buy that you are engaging Godz like this to make him a more electable King.
I assume you are all going to make something out of Nacho's fixation on Godz. I don't really mind it. I believe I also saw someone insinuating they are scumbuddies, and to them I say I believe you're not attributing enough complexity to mafia players. People seem to have trouble figuring out the level of complexity with which scum actually play because I constantly find myself correcting people on this in both directions. I'm not saying they cannot be scumbuddies, only that this isn't really a fantastic reason for thinking so.
I think Godz is town. I think a newish scum would most likely not have made Nacho do this for three pages and would have let the point drop or admit he had a point somewhere instead of continuing to be stubborn, among other things."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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You probably won't have to.In post 1165, SirCakez wrote:
oh boy I'm excited to hear this oneIn post 1161, Cephrir wrote: Currently, my top suspects are SirCakez"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Do you really believe that scum-Antihero needs help tearing down those arguments? They were not particularly good. In addition, they were from a player who was never especially likely to have their voice heard in a star studded playerlist.In post 790, Spiffeh wrote:
Nacho devotes multiple posts to tearing down a lot of Godz arguments for Anti!scum, including the one quoted here where he even implies he's a little scummy, but when I ask him why he's engaging in this conversation, it's says it's because he thinks Godz is town and wants him to recognize that Anti is town??In post 440, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I'm not really seeing what you're seeing here; I disagree pretty strongly that it was a window into Godz's thought process because there wasn't a thought process to be had, and I have seen scum say that they had reads that they couldn't explain before (and it was early enough in the game where people weren't really likely to rip on him all that much), and am not sure how that post is particularly far removed from that.In post 351, implosion wrote:indicate to me a townie who's trying to figure out the game and can't put their finger on why they feel certain ways about people. It does not read to me as scum trying to fake reads or trying to look like they're doing things. It looks like a window into an actual thought process that's going on.
I don't really get that impression from their interaction
I'm actually fairly OK with this.In post 835, Kagami wrote:We'll figure out who we want lynched and ask gaiden to perform that lynch. We elect gaiden, who will execute the lynch.
If anyone wants to persist with votes on players of unknown alignment who will not specify a lynch target, they should explain why.
Gaiden king is very, very good.
And you think arguing Godz down from one lynch will make him a competent king how, precisely?In post 875, Nachomamma8 wrote:
The more competent kings a town has, the better Town's chances of winning.In post 792, Spiffeh wrote:Wanting to make Godz a more electable king is complete bullshit
I usually agree with this line of thought, but I usually turn out to be wrong about it, so I've stopped expecting rationality.In post 890, Spiffeh wrote:Cakez might be scum actually
His overconfidence and general "I'm right" attitude is off putting and something I haven't seen to this extent in his town game
Why?In post 893, Kagami wrote:zakk+nacho seems possible.
You should really cool it on the strength of your opinions. It is silly. You've already moved several players from never lynches to ???s, IIRC, this game.In post 899, Spiffeh wrote:Anyone that executes hiplop will feel my wrath tomorrow
Self conscious about your post count?In post 900, implosion wrote:Forgot zakk was v/la. I think I saw that in activity overview at some point.
I didn't know that once X number of strategies have been suggested no more could be suggested. I guess I've been playing mafia wrong.In post 900, implosion wrote:In terms of the opinions thing:
People have said they're in favor of having fun with it. People have said they're in favor of taking it very seriously.
People have said they're in favor of pseudo-votes. People have said they're against it.
People have said the king should be a completely empty vessel. People have said that potential kings should state their execution targets and then we effectively vote on those targets. People have declined either of these.
Etc.
This seems pretty obtuse. Think for four seconds.In post 909, implosion wrote:
surprisingly you being "doubly certain that hero(s) exist" does not convince me!In post 906, Kagami wrote:On review, I'm doubly certain that hero(s) exist. The best course is to choose a victim and elect a king to execute them in some order.
Anyone supporting the current "elect someone who we think is town and let them do whatever" is a fool, or is scum who believes that it is unlikely that the current candidates will lynch a partner.
The only objection that makes any sense is a logistical one, but that only exists because of a lack of support, which should be viewed as extremely suspicious.
In fact, on my own review, I've actually found that there's almost certainly a hidden mechanic in the game where the previously elected king gets a free vig shot at night regardless of their alignment. Oh, and another one where scum can't target them for the nk that night.
I'm upset that I'm no longer going to be able to vote you for king unless your opinions change. I was planning to.In post 925, kuribo wrote:In post 923, SXTLHGaiden wrote:
i prefer to think of it as an "executioner's ax"In post 917, kuribo wrote:Gaiden is in my bottom three of the LAST people I'd want to see a gun handed to
or you can think of me as a guillotine
if i were somehow unfortunately elected king, my first act would be to send you straight to hell
I don't think absence from a player I didn't expect volume from in the first place is a scumtell. She also explained already why she wasn't especially expecting toxicity.In post 944, kuribo wrote:Oh. Re: KittyMo
I didn't like that on at least two occasions, she's already put out an excuse for why she won't be posting much. First real life stuff (okay, fair enough) but then also the "toxic playerlist" which as I pointed out, was mostly set in stone when she signed up for it. Her reads have been vague (is she keeping up?) and she asks questions that seem to go nowhere. Regarding her reads, she says she's having trouble reading this player list, and fine if that's the case, but it could just as easily be that she has too many people reading each other as town. (ie, the same problem I had in Gumball)
That's nice.In post 963, Spiffeh wrote:I retract my zakk townread
Frankly, I don't understand exactly why you won't specify your lynch targets, so it can't be that obvious. You also seem to be attributing a lot of level-zero scum play to Kagami, who might be literally the last player on Mafiascum from whom I would expect to see level-zero scum play.In post 992, Fate wrote:
like this post needs to be highlighted:In post 949, Kagami wrote:No, I was super happy with katsuki or fate being taken out by a hero. I just don't have enough confidence in their being town to justify voting them if they're not going to specify their lynch.
I was super happy with fate or katsuki dying to the hero that I have a hard on for.
2. but I don't think they're town enough to vote so that they can die to a hero and I can't trust them when they won't specify their lynch
First of all Kagami is competent enough to know WHY katsuki and I won't specify our lynch. Its nto a scum move in any sense, scum will just have a lynchpool of mislynch targets and get their fucking dirty work done
Katsuki and I are always secretive about our reads and its better to keep scum on their toes this way.
Kagami is said scum unwilling to give control of the lynch to competent players who can't be read (scum are always trying to read town too)
If Nacho flips town Kagami dies no questions asked. I don't care how many nightkills I eatKagami will be the next lynch if nacho flips town.
I believe it was established that Gaiden was supposed to obey the will of the town.In post 996, Fate wrote:kagami scum wants a king for someone who is pretty town and has a strong meta connection with so that he can pull all the strings.
Like
Kagami is blatantly manipulating things
and the dissonance within because the narrative of "oh shit theres a hero so we gotta play around it"
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"but I wnat to elect an obvtown read who I can trust to play by my rules"
is so blaringly obvious that it needs to be full of holes.
Also, if we really want to turn this into not-kingmaker, we could institute a rule of "electing X king is a vote for the player below them in the playerlist and all kings must shoot the player directly below them on the playerlist.""I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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No. I was saying I was excited about a hypothetical Queen KittyMo killing implosion.In post 1175, SirCakez wrote:I'm pretty sure he meant his top townread (someone else) has a scumread on Kitty, who is also his only serious scumread
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I tried this as an exercise and I have absolutely no idea. You've expressed like maybe half a scumread ever.In post 1013, Katsuki wrote:
If you can't figure out from my ISO an inkling of who I may execute then you shouldn't be playing.In post 821, SirCakez wrote:You've been talking about your reads and who you want executed though. Kats hasn't."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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In post 1083, Kagami wrote:Fate, let's imagine the spiffeh wagon arose because scum was worried that you or katsuki or kuribo would kill a partner. Who is the partner who was in danger?In post 1084, Kagami wrote:Btw, fate, you're not going to be king.
Spiffeh probably isn't either unless he wants to compromise on targets, which he should probably be doing right now to make it awkward for any scum on his wagon to move if his new choice is scum.What are you doing
There are outstanding questions for you that I want to see answered. What are you doing right now and why are you doing it, because I'm totally lost there.
What happened to the will of the people?In post 1086, SXTLHGaiden wrote:Probably brian. i'm giving dgb a pass cause vla and i know how hard those are to come back from.
i might be interested in killing abr.
How does the third item on your list merit the word "definitely"?In post 1091, SirCakez wrote: Top three scum are Godz, zakk and ABR
-Godz looks very scummy for his push on Anti and assorted other posting that I outlined in 1087.
-Zakk has loads of bizarre and scummy posts with next to no actual scumhunting, for example his desire to hammer Kats in 235, his expression of not caring in 238, a random unexplained Godz townread in 297, and his basically hand waving of game events in 962.
-I've seen ABR's town game in Saga Frontier and Song of Ice and Fire uPick and this isdefinitely not it. What little he's posted has been vague and unexplained. I know he's capable of more.
You have absolutely no idea which players are influential and/or have guts and/or about the amount of guts it would take to shoot you. Please stop guessing.G[o wrote:dz post_id=7942627 time=1464100732 user_id=15399 post_num=1094]
I don't really see how you're going to stop it, though.In post 1084, Kagami wrote:Btw, fate, you're not going to be king.
Kastuki was never going to shoot me. Other than the fact that I don't think he has the guts to do it even if he's scum, it would be inconsistent with how he's supposedly been reading me for the entire game, barring very recently where he seems to imply he thinks I'm doing things I'd do as scum.In post 1088, Kagami wrote:why were you voting for fate, cakez? Katsuki was likely going to lynch godz, iirc."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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This case is awful.In post 1109, implosion wrote:Axel had a smattering of posting in the 100s and 200s with no content (just pure setup discussion). He then starts actual content in 656. This is quite reminiscent of the most recent game I found that he's completed in which he spends his first two posts on setup discussion, and then two days later starts giving content. He was scum in that game. I don't see this to the same extent in the first town-game I see, where he gives content (i.e. opinions on claims or calling something that people were calling scummy null) early on. That kind of behavior of substituting spec for content is also a bit suspect a priori.
Not much else really makes me feel that strongly. His initial reads post is kinda bad (saying that anyone calling godz vs anti tvt is suspect is, imo, bad - I can't imagine much automatic scum motivation for calling it tvt although I guess it's increased if one of them is scum but I'm still pretty sure neither of them is scum).
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No it's notIn post 1152, DrippingGoofball wrote:
That's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge scumtellIn post 1129, kuribo wrote:Zakk going VLA immediately after coming back from one makes my teeth itch. Just remember: even if he's telling the truth about personal problems, it doesn't necessarily make him town. I liked his early posting but some of that has been marred by his posting since.
Nacho I'm not super confident in, and I never got around to ISOing him yesterday. Probably will do tonight although super late. I feel like I can't quite put my finger on why I feel that way about his slot and id feel better about the read one way or another if I ISO him.
It seems pretty in character for Kagami to meIn post 1180, implosion wrote:
Not the point I was making at all, which is obvious if you read the two sentences after the one you quoted. The point was that Kagami made it sound like it was self-evidently obvious that his newly suggested strategy was objectively correct and that we would be following him without him needing to say anything else, which seemed disingenuous.Cephrir wrote:I didn't know that once X number of strategies have been suggested no more could be suggested. I guess I've been playing mafia wrong.
Congrats on being a null read, you did itIn post 1189, Katsuki wrote:
Nah I'll save it for when you call me inevitably scum at some point.In post 1185, Cephrir wrote:Also, the witty retort you'll give to that about how much I suck won't be particularly innovative or witty.
Fine.In post 1191, SXTLHGaiden wrote:@ceph: someone ask who i would kill. there is a difference between "who everyone wants dead" and "who i would personally kill". I'm still moved by the people when the role is thrust upon me.
That was not mentioned in the case.In post 1192, SirCakez wrote:Ceph - in those two games he was actively deathtunelling and pushing players. He's doing next to nothing here."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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YesIn post 1173, kuribo wrote:At page five she had like five posts, and she's your top town read?
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not really, i was just looking forward to it!In post 1200, kuribo wrote:
You say that like its a threat.In post 1177, Cephrir wrote:able to vote you for king unless your opinions change. I was planning to."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I don't think this is all that bad.In post 1221, Fate wrote:
yeah this is quality fucking king material right hereIn post 1197, SXTLHGaiden wrote:Oh, for the record, if i'm elected king and we haven't decided as a town who we are killing, i'm killing who hammers me.
go right on ahead cephrir
I guess I'm okay with most of those options. Being contrary is more fun, but fine.In post 1222, Fate wrote:
I've given a poolIn post 1220, Cephrir wrote:So is a vote for Fate essentially a vote to lynch Kagami then, or what
I wish he'd give me like a pool of 5 or something so I'd have a clue what I was voting for.
It consists of the Spiffeh wagon and theres a mystery read off the wagon
I'm not going to be killing anyone that people would be disappointed with
My reads are a conglomerate of all my top townreads reads as well as the general desires of the game state.
I've stated who I'm not killing as well
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without reading her posts again: she is town, stop itIn post 1421, Spiffeh wrote:How do people feel about KittyMo given the Nacho scum flip?"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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i do not like this postIn post 1464, zakk wrote:kuribo was probably a good kill but it makes me sad. that's rude lol
i'm gonna take a huge chunk of time this weekend and re-read D1. knowing these flips will be very helpful.
glad i wasn't the king shot yesterday. thanks for believing in me. lol
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you're doing a lot of assuming here about what i didn't like about your post. you've jumped to incorrect conclusions but i find it puzzling that you were so sensitive.In post 1468, zakk wrote:^ this kinda frustrates me. i know i was gone for a lot of D1 but i don't see how that equates to scumminess. you'll get a chance to see me play if you give me a couple days, because now i will have time.
if it's that big of a deal that you get oodles of immediate content from someone who is more socially popular, then i can just replace out and you'll get your wish. but i definitely plan to take a discerning look over the weekend and Have Actual Thoughts™
so please. be patient."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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YuckIn post 1476, camn wrote:
KittyMoIn post 1470, Spiffeh wrote:camn other than Cakez who do you think is scum?
G[o]dz
Axelrod
zakk
This is from my yesterday spreadsheet.
I haven't re-read today in face of the flips... but kuribo was already in my townslot, and Nacho in my scumslot.
Although I did have Skybird as scummy.. so I gotta re-assess.
The rest of it, mostlyIn post 1479, zakk wrote:
it's just unfair. it's not that i don't want to play this game, it's that i couldn't.In post 1472, Cephrir wrote:
you're doing a lot of assuming here about what i didn't like about your post. you've jumped to incorrect conclusions but i find it puzzling that you were so sensitive.In post 1468, zakk wrote:^ this kinda frustrates me. i know i was gone for a lot of D1 but i don't see how that equates to scumminess. you'll get a chance to see me play if you give me a couple days, because now i will have time.
if it's that big of a deal that you get oodles of immediate content from someone who is more socially popular, then i can just replace out and you'll get your wish. but i definitely plan to take a discerning look over the weekend and Have Actual Thoughts™
so please. be patient.
but you were clearly hinting that i misread your intent, so, i'll bite. what didn't you like about my post?"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I don't like your opinions.In post 1487, camn wrote:
You don't like spreadsheets? I love them. I use them for everything.In post 1481, Cephrir wrote:Yuck
he was a universal townreadIn post 1494, hiplop wrote:Old Guard is definitely in the scum. No one shoots kuribo except that crew
also you are supposed to have good opinions! these opinions are bad.
no clue where these scumreads on godz and kittymo are all coming from, doesn't make any sense to me at all"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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doc fears and/or you being wrong seems like an easy explanationIn post 1509, Kagami wrote:
As far as scum was concerned, I'm more unlynchable than kuribo was. There was a meaningful decision to shoot kuribo over me.In post 1505, Cephrir wrote:he was a universal townread
also ive been trying to find my pumbaaface.jpg for hiplop and it's apparently been a long time since i brought it out"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I hope you know I'm going to quote this at you someday.In post 1527, Katsuki wrote:BS may be scum but Warthog I am sure is scum, and would like to see that go first."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I guess I need to respond to this, so I'll just say this:In post 1523, camn wrote:He doesn't bleed town as much as last game.. and like i was saying.. Antihero-scum would explain why nacho was so one-sided a mediator.
Also, he doesn'tannoyme as much as last game.
So maybe some of his native smarm isn't shining through because he is scum and playing reserved?
Or maybe we all are maturing.
-I haven't been in the game for long.
-I'm only antagonistic when I'm being antagonized.
And also,
-I think this is a departure from your tone with me last game."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I had a team to bitch to and the ability to lynch you.In post 1537, Katsuki wrote:
You wern't particularly antagonistic in TM: MOD ERROR despite my incredible abrasiveness towards you. If that was not "being antagonized" then I don't know what is. Why was that?In post 1535, Cephrir wrote: -I'm only antagonistic when I'm being antagonized."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Is that what happened?In post 1548, SirCakez wrote:The Nacho scum flip also supports you being scum with how much he was supporting you."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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you can tell by my frantic tone and large volume of tryhard posts.In post 1564, Katsuki wrote:
He feels like scum desperately afraid of drawing a shot.G[o wrote:dz post_id=7952663 time=1464383783 user_id=15399 post_num=1561]
I was softening on Antihero at the point he exited the game. I haven't seen anything particularly alignment-indicative from Pumbaa.In post 1522, Katsuki wrote:[o], what were your thoughts on warthog?
He was in my "reserving judgment" pile at the end of yesterday primarily because I wanted to look at Anti/him with fresh eyes at some point.It hasn't happened yet and I'm lazy so it may not happen any time in the very near future.
I don't think he's the most likely person to be scum, though."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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are you playing a bizarro world version of this mafia gameIn post 1565, SirCakez wrote:
Yeah I'd look into Ceph a lot more if you flip townG[o wrote:dz post_id=7952649 time=1464383477 user_id=15399 post_num=1559]
I forget if you're still sold on the "one of themIn post 1501, SirCakez wrote:Anti isn't scum because Godz is scum.mustbe scum because they can't both be town" thing, but if you are, does that mean you'd start thinking Cephrir is scum if I'm town?
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taking place in a reality where things are the opposite of the way they are in this realityIn post 1568, SirCakez wrote:Define bizarro world"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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ok gj u got me smarty pantsIn post 1569, Katsuki wrote:
camn said it best.In post 1566, Cephrir wrote:
you can tell by my frantic tone and large volume of tryhard posts.In post 1564, Katsuki wrote:
He feels like scum desperately afraid of drawing a shot.G[o wrote:dz post_id=7952663 time=1464383783 user_id=15399 post_num=1561]
I was softening on Antihero at the point he exited the game. I haven't seen anything particularly alignment-indicative from Pumbaa.In post 1522, Katsuki wrote:[o], what were your thoughts on warthog?
He was in my "reserving judgment" pile at the end of yesterday primarily because I wanted to look at Anti/him with fresh eyes at some point.It hasn't happened yet and I'm lazy so it may not happen any time in the very near future.
I don't think he's the most likely person to be scum, though.
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I am the Anti slot and I have been saying I think Godz is town. What do you think.In post 1573, SirCakez wrote:So you think Anti vs Godz was TvT?"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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ikr those are the worst reads in the worldIn post 1630, BROseidon wrote:
Oh my god I'm so happy Kagami's in the driver seat right now.In post 1626, Katsuki wrote:Ok KittyMo is scum I'm happy with her dying.
{BRO, KITTYMO, Ceph, Cakez???}
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i am not buying this post at all.In post 1675, Fate wrote:heh, interesting.
So instead of take the time and effort to see what happened when I offered scum a chance to save their buddy, which is all I did. Offer an alternative option, while even ENCOURAGING the nacho wagon to just hurry up and finish.
All the blame rests on me. I single handedly derailed the game onto myself.
hmm
given your own arrogance at your apparent skill level I'll offer you the respect of being half as good as you think you are, in which case your narrative for yesterday is just scum."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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i had a bit of as gut townread on him as compared to the rest of your list. it's only getting stronger today.In post 1677, Fate wrote:
and Yes I'm bringing this connection back up for those who want to se eitIn post 1225, Cephrir wrote:This is me expressing that I would mildly prefer to keep BROseidon around out of that group.
Cephrir I asked you why you thought BRO was town day fucking ONE and I won't take this "oh mope cant vote for people" excuse bullshit for being sad over nachosbuddy's death."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Your presentation of the bolded is not what I believe actually happened. You're trying to take credit for a read you didn't have.In post 1691, Fate wrote:
what are you not buying?In post 1685, Cephrir wrote:
i am not buying this post at all.In post 1675, Fate wrote:heh, interesting.
So instead of take the time and effort to see what happened when I offered scum a chance to save their buddy, which is all I did. Offer an alternative option, while even ENCOURAGING the nacho wagon to just hurry up and finish.
All the blame rests on me. I single handedly derailed the game onto myself.
hmm
given your own arrogance at your apparent skill level I'll offer you the respect of being half as good as you think you are, in which case your narrative for yesterday is just scum.
You conveniently did not quote my post where I laid out what happened yesterday with the Spiffeh/Me wagons. Do you have an issue with the way I've presented that story?
In particular you must not like how scummy is makes you, given you were a pivotal vote in shifting the momentum to me and off Nacho
I don't even know what you're talking about but I'll try to find it if I have time. I don't really care if I "look scummy" because I can see my role PM and I'm inclined to think it's your fault if you can't tell what color it is."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Yes, my vote for you to be king probably played a role in your election. Yes, I did knowingly choose an unknown over a Nacho kill. I did not have a scumread on Nacho and I feel that he's a valuable player for town, so I didn't want to lynch him when the alternative was people I also didn't have townreads on.
But apparently you've decided I'm a level zero scum player who pulls angles like "pls don't kill my scumbuddy for no reason.""I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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ScumpostIn post 1724, Fate wrote:I can't really tell how much of it was not wanting to shoot Nacho and wanting to be Emperor so badly that I ran on a campaign counter to Spiffeh (because there was no reason to elect me over Spiffeh if I was just going to shoot the same person)
in the end I've tasted what it feels like to be a dirty politician after all, yeah no amount of anything is worth that soul price.
Zakk if you're scum singing the same song as Bro I don't know what to tell you. Your tone has been town but I guess you're just good at faking that because your content has been shit"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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