kuribo in Wonderland - [Game Over]

[Fate]

Desperately cling isn't the right way to look at it

I'm just throwing you under the bus first if people want to mislynch us and and then I can point to your reads and stand on them as a new throne to steer the ship back to glory

[Fate]

Camn's death marks a turn of this game going to shit, Katsuki, and today will be a turning point otherwise.


There's just no way in fuck Gaiden got busdriven with whoever the fuck Cephrir claimed to have targeted N1 when there were OBVTOWN to kill and BUSDRIVERS to get around protection

[Fate]

Katsuki hasn't explicitly stated a townread on you this game, Godz.

[Fate]

BTW GODZ IS TOWN BEYOND TOWN AND IS A TRUSTED ADVISOR/CONCUBINE

If you're talking about this, it isn't explicit. Its Katsuki

The rest of his ISO points to just how much he feels uneasy about you, about your scumgodz posting, and how Nacho scum makes him feel better about you but that is it.

[Fate]

Cephrir only believes in Godz who is defending him

yeah nothing to see here folks sure.

Godz who is scum then in this unwinnable town game?

Godz so Katsuki is literally your only scumread?

[Fate]

Cephir you do realize I"m the wagon that results in you not dying right?

[Fate]

I'm willing to give your bullshit of a claim the slightest chance of shenanigans and wait until massaclaim

but

FakeGod just screams like he wants to have included 3 scum cops and given Town the Cops with real sanity

Axel: Shut the fuck up on that subject?

[Fate]

Axel is still scum after all, aren;t you?

Axel how does not letting scum know WHO THE LAST MASONS ARE=me keeping EVERYONE IN THE DARK MWHAWHAHHAHA BASK IN THE UNKNOWN YOU MEEK FOOLISH TOWNIES

[Fate]

I mean I KNOW theres scum in this Fate wagon pile, and fuck its not Zakk and I want it to be just cephrir

[Fate]

Ok I'll play one more game:

Axel why would we kill who killed camn when we know there's only two factions? The fuck are you talking about?

[Fate]

Zakk going VLA immediately after coming back from one makes my teeth itch. Just remember: even if he's telling the truth about personal problems, it doesn't necessarily make him town. I liked his early posting but some of that has been marred by his posting since.

Nacho I'm not super confident in, and I never got around to ISOing him yesterday. Probably will do tonight although super late. I feel like I can't quite put my finger on why I feel that way about his slot and id feel better about the read one way or another if I ISO him.

That's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge scumtell

Zakk=confirmed town

[Fate]

I do not understand why people are voting for Fate when there is an actual

Mason

you can vote for. I mean, even if you are absolutely positive Fate is Town, which you probably shouldn't be, and even if you somehow think Fate's judgement is better than Kagami's, with the Mason you're not just getting Kagami are you. You've at least theoretically got multiple minds trying to make the best decision.

It's more a question of voting for good judgment over conftowness.

seems odd given DGB's extremely tight-lipped ISO

Game over when

[Brian Skies, Cephrir, Axelrod, Godz/KittyMo, Implosion] are dead.

[Fate]

Ok I'll play one more game:

Axel why would we kill who killed camn when we know there's only two factions? The fuck are you talking about?

Well, if you KNOW that the person who killed Camn is Town, then sure. But that would not be my immediate assumption. Why would it be yours? (unless, you know, you killed him, etc. etc.) Town Vig is already dead. My immediate assumption would be some kind of scum ability. It;s not like Camn wasn't screaming he had relevant information at the end of the day yesterday. Why would anyone Town kill him?

your imagination is limited by your scum perspective isn't it

[Fate]

I don't understand what that kill has to do with masons, and if it does have to do with masons, I don't get why you would drop that in response to Axelrod.

The masons have to do with why I'm against massclaiming, which Axel seemed to think was me wanting to keep people in the dark.

If he was just referring to my own information, well that's something I'm not going to negotiate with terrorists about

[Fate]

[Brian Skies, Cephrir, Axelrod, Godz/KittyMo, Implosion] are dead.

Yes, if we lynched all those people, the game would certainly be over.

probably far before we reached KittyMo right?

[Fate]

I don't claim how "town would claim things" Axelrod if that isn't clear.

I fucked up my zombie claim by saying Cephrir twice and I can't be the random cop so boom you got me.

[Fate]

If Cephrir was seen targeted town (gaiden) and claims a result on scumbuddy DGB

like it doesn't get much clearer than that

I get that we can WIFOM why he would do things but dems the facts

"Camn was lying" when the whole fucking POINT of hypoclaiming was to get info out post-mortem

[Fate]

is bullshit

[Fate]

Hilop why are you stealing my campaign

[Fate]

hiplop you were obviously a fucking mason but maybe scum were stupid

can town stop being stupid too

[Fate]

Like I LITERALLY FUCKING HAD THE SAMEPLATFORM WITH CEPH/BRIAN DYING

WHY COULDNT YOU JUST KEEP YOUR CLAIM IN YOUR FUCKING PANTS

[Fate]

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[Fate]

i

like the level of dumb

its like you had to out do fucking Hiplop

i'm still reeling from shock at the play this day

give me a moment

[Fate]

can we agree that hiplop's mason buddy doesn't have to claim?

can we at leeast have fucking that?

you could've stayed hidden for a lot longer and shot a lot more fucking people

[Fate]

I was trying to fuck with scum the same way Bro+Hiplop were with their masons claims

but no

no we an't have nice things because herpafuckingderp

[Fate]

I'm Fate, Vanilla Townie, gifted with the ability to see into the heart of things

It was pretty clear to me that there was a backup Vig in this game.

I figured softclaiming some bullshit would get scum's panties ina bunch (see AXelrod, terrified that I was a fucking PGO and not wanting to shoot me)

Butn o

let's have a vanilla massclaim where everything's on the table and there's no variance as scum gets to make optimal nightkills with a 100% information

you fucking

clowns

[Fate]

Do you have a hat you're going to be willing to eat?


Is there a "scum" motivation here? Being town I obviously can't see it

but I'd love for you to try to piece one together that isn't just "what the fuck is fate doing=must be scum"

[Fate]

I've called Axelrod scum multiple times starting at the beginning of D2

thats complete horseshit

and the fact that you don't see how obviously scum Axelrod's reaction means youre just not a town Ceph

[Fate]

I didn't say I thought it through before hand, isn't that much clear from my posts?
I'm rationalizing it post action

yeah its probably just me wanting to stir things up.

I don't see how you think this benefits scum in this situation

[Fate]

I was not softclaiming to be a mason

I was softclaiming some power role that would make scum sweat. Now that's not what I THOUGHT about going into it. I just realized there was obviously a back-up vig, given the flavor of the game and the nature of the shot, and started acting like I had special secrets

Axelrod sweat


????

profit.


Yes I was gambiting and lying thats a very underappreciated tool that town has. This whole "claim everything up front!" is some new site meta bullshit that I have to breakthrough once again

clowns are people not able to see into the heart of what was going on, aka Katsuki is the only one alive that apparently understands my thought process besides scum Ceph who just needs every townie he can to die

[Fate]

OH HEY YEAH WJAT IF THERS

A SCUM REDIRECTOR

THEN WOULDNT IT BE BETTER NOT TO FUCKING CLAIM WHO THE SHOT WAS AND NOT MASSCLAIM?

LIKE I WAS FUCKING PUSHING?

OH YEAH BUT NOOOOOO MASSCLAIMING CAN ONLY HELP TOWN YEAAAH

[Fate]

Anyway, Implosion, what exactly are you claiming?

^SCUM STILL WANT TO KNOW HOW TO INTERACT WITH YOUR ROLE

OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES IMPLOSION

[Fate]

"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning."

probably sig worthy

[Fate]

I rather you shoot me and not Ceph so you can carry that guilt on your shoulders for the rest of the game

[Fate]

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That's all. I'm not going to explain it when there's 99 pages of information and years of history that go into that process

I just knew without a shadow of a doubt there was a backup vig. Nothing else lined up

[Fate]

ok I'll admit that having played with Kuribo before it fits with his bloodthirsty theme to make there are always murdercocks shooting people

so more than one vig, but not at the same time.

I've been playing this game way too long

[Fate]

now I'm fine with implosion killing me, then Katsuki

He can see when the dust suttles how he single handedly destroyed this game for town

When he was hte one spouting some bullshit like "massclaiming will make no variance and we'll coast to victory!"

its not the gun

its the one who wields it, implosion.

Maybe you'll learn a lesson about power.


Also I lied about being town

my real alignment is

Chaotic Neutral

I can win with town, and prefer to do so for my fallen brethren. But if scum continue to play you like violin strings.

Well it can't be helped

[Fate]

VOTE: Hiplop

[Fate]

I don't really care to see Brian Skies executed atm given this Ceph/Axelrod scum circle jerk goin on

[Fate]

Katsuki is also a vanilla townie

Axelrod has some scum fakeclaim so I'm popcorning ot him

[Fate]

here are my thoughts:

implosions plan is as shit as his reads

He shoots me, then Katsuki

Then he is disposed of as the useful tool for scum he was

then he

begs for forgiveness in the dead thread

says it was all our fault and our play was shit and we laugh about it later over drinks

[Fate]

given that you watched me as scum in your game the whole way through

I really don't get your read zakk

like

did I do anything but play it fucking straight?

I didn't even counterclaim jailkeeper against alienfuck which would've won because he couldnt actuallt CLAIM jailkeeper

[Fate]

I missed the town result on Axelrod from Cephrir

yeah he shouldn't die this day/night

[Fate]

so Zakk with this great narrative you have of the game

Katsuki and I were two scum kings running for office D1

master plan no one would see it coming

really that's how that day played out?

[Fate]

IMPLOSION IF YOUR SHOTS ARE GOING TO BE CAMN FATE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD

I wanted you to be thrown under the bus before me but

Apparently I pissed off the guy with the gun

Sayonara cupcake

That's not a hell I'd wish on anyone but you'll have to be there anyway

[Fate]

I also wouldn't cry over a Bro lynch/shot.

yeah this is what dies today

[Fate]

VOTE: Fate

in case hiplop is adamant about ceph dying

[Fate]

Cephrir what is your kuribo ROLE NAME

[Fate]

is there anyone besides

chesskid

Zakk around to talk sense to

[Fate]

patience zakk patience

the maximum amount of egg on face requires implosion to kill me

[Fate]

VOTE: Hiplop
Axelrod is stalling for a claim and should die on principle

[Fate]

great now all the fucking cards are on the table

[Fate]

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まったく

I get being frustrated but the play this day has been downright abysmal

ABR and Camn didn't seem to be doing anything on the surface but behind the scenes there sanity was keeping the town afloat

[Fate]

you literally have an innocent on Katuski stop doing dumb shit.

No one listened to me on ABR, can we at least trust my Katsuki read. That's the only townread I stand by. No, the only read I stand by period really

[Fate]

If Brian is town then yeah its p. much gg isn't it, theres 3 mislynches left right?

Also KittyMo and Gaiden have been way to quiet. It could be town just imploding on itself

[Fate]

I don't see why scum have to have a godfather when they have had 2 cops as their power

[Fate]

mmm yeah that's fair.

Still rather see Brian Skies die first yknow

[Fate]

given you're info there's also a confirmed redirector/busdriver with Cephrir being town and camn's track

so then again

[Fate]

what you're saying is pretty clear

camn then

was doin all out gambits and we don't get the full story

[Fate]

have we considered vigging Katuski since he's the supposed "godfather" instead? If he's just a townie, he'll die but it'll be better than misexecuting him I think

[Fate]

dz post_id=7989188 time=1465513212 user_id=15399 post_num=2607]

have we considered vigging Katuski since he's the supposed "godfather" instead? If he's just a townie, he'll die but it'll be better than misexecuting him I think

That is the alternative to the king shooting him today, yes.

I am not miffed either way as long as he's dead by tomorrow night.

But I don't really see what you imagine the difference is.

I don't either after thinking about it

maybe its just style points to have him die right after camn in the same way

[Fate]

look Zakk if you really want to see things that aren't there I'm sure you can find all sorts of shit

Like I said yesterday with camn I realize my play is questionable so unless you're just a competent player who can see beyond circumstantial evidence I look guilty as hell given:

-Didn't shoot scum
-Provided an alternative wagon to the Nacho lynch
-Provided an alternative wagon to the SirCakez/Brian Skies lynch
-Was called town by DGB and sheeped
-Called ABR town when no one else seemed to have this read probably just for "Credit"
-Claimed inside info when having none to fuck with the scum but apparently that just fucked with the town

I mean the list goes on doesn't it?

[Fate]

If scum had a Re-director they would totally have been re-directing Spiffeh, not killing him. So I think that possibility is not a real possibility.

why do you think scum knew who the vig was?

I still want Axelrod very much dead. If I'm allowed to take anyone down with me or use my townflip to barter for anyone's death (since Brian Skies is certainly already a marked man) its Axelrod

[Fate]

nor broseidon, and i would still favor a fate kill over brian

compare the two hammers again and get back to me

[Fate]

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Ｔｈｅｒｅ’ｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｒｕｔｈ　ｔｈａｔ　ｌｉｅｓ　ａｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｏｔｔｏｍ　ｏｆ　ｔｈａｔ　ｈｅｌｌ

Ｓｕｒｅｌｙ　ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ　ｍａｋｅ　ｉｔ　Ｚａｋｋ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｈｏｌｄ　ｆａｓｔ　ｔｏ　ｙｏｕｒｓｅｌｆ

[Fate]

have we considered vigging Katuski since he's the supposed "godfather" instead? If he's just a townie, he'll die but it'll be better than misexecuting him I think

and I'm suppose to be your strongest townread outside of masons????????

I already said I'd throw you under the bus without hesitation

[Fate]

Given how the votes have played out I'd like to ask that only hiplop is allowed to hammer himself and anyone else doing so will result in execution

[Fate]

zakk trying to ride on that Katuski hate train just so he can taste my blood


I don't know what your palate is right but the seasoning of defeat cant be all that good

[Fate]

meh I've always believed in godz

really don't see your problem with him other than meta

[Fate]

scum have stopped posting so its pretty much all dums up in here (self included)

[Fate]

I'm more focused on townreads than scumreads given the nature of this game

its very well that KittyMo could be scum

I just don't think Brian can flip town given everyone elses claims/play

[Fate]

implosion, who was

kuribo IN HELL

, and

Town

Backup Vigilante

, has been

killed

in

Night 4

.

HEY THAT MASSCLAIMING THING WAS A GREAT FUCKING IDEA WASNT IT


WASNT

IT

[Fate]

whatever, can't lose now.

Implosion shot the godfatehr and died with his guilty like a fucking clown

[Fate]

Imp should shoot in kittymo/Brian/bro I think?

I'm fine with this.

VOTE: hiplop

KittyMo is the godfather

after all we've been through

Kitty

You had to roll scum after all =/

[Fate]

Lol

I'm pretty happy about that Brian flip

hey I cna't hear your apologies with you face covered with my feet like that

or are you face deep in humble fucking pie

[Fate]

VOTE: Fate

For KittyMo Death

as much as it will pain me

[Fate]

So many of the PR interactions in this game make no fucking sense to me but from what you quoted of fakegod i really have trouble believing there's a redirector.

I don't think there's a reason for implosion to have held his shot besides pulling a Ceph but he'd have been bonkers to shoot BRO after Brian flipped and beyond that I doubt he shot at a claimed cop or probable Mason

Honestly I think lynching kats/fate/zakk just wins this game and if I'm that wrong then I probably deserve to die

oh yeah these are her reads

at the end of the day there's nothing more she can do

[Fate]

ah Zakk just blatantly trolling at this point

It is 100% confirmed to me that it is KittyMo scum right now

I won't settle for any other kill

[Fate]

your reads were contingent on Brian Skies flipping town

since he didn't we get to go with my reads. I feel like that's fair

[Fate]

I don't know Fate. Your rage seems out of proportion to what is actually happening in this game.

not sig worthy

my title is HAPPY for a reason, I don't really get mad.


But yeah I was completely right about massclaiming yesterday being fucking stupid.

My plan would've resulted in=
Me/Hiplop King, Brian Skies dead
today we have vig still alive and can massclaim with only one scum left. Implosion probably shoots who the fuck knows, Katsuki

[Fate]

I see

[Fate]

yeah, make me king.

I'm doing that too asshole

I haven't been mislynched in like 6 years

/confirmed getting worse at this game

actually if you count marathons fate mislynched me like 3 yrs ago in a vengeful and then threw the game after I shot correctly

i guess i'm past the point in my life of enjoying solving the mystery of his emotions

glhf

the cutting edge of scumMo

T_T

[Fate]

ah

nothing like the stubborness of refusing to be humbled

[Fate]

yeah Katsuki is even more confirmed town to me than he was yesterday from BS flip

[Fate]

Katsuki are you still on this [o] scum tangent

[Fate]

Katsuki you can go back to sheeping me you're not the PR person here.

I've finally honed in on the KittyMo scum

pre-edit: KittyMo and Katsuki's play surrounding Brian was vastly different if you'll notice the subtleties also knowing both of them

[Fate]

KittyMo hasn't played terribly at all

you just can't do much when it is 9 vs. 1

[Fate]

now that I know that zakk literally hasn't read the game his shitreads bother me a lot less

[Fate]

I lost my townread on Brian from a combination of everyone who contributed to the late switch off of Spiffeh becoming more likely town, the fact that his hammer made no sense with the mindset he had been projecting earlier in the game, and the fact that Spiffeh died instead of a Mason while being the only one pairing Brian and Sircakez. Reassessing and being right is one of the only things I feel good about this game.

I do not understand what Axel is talking about w/r/t odds and good scum play and Katsuki saying someone with a 400 post iso has acted exactly how he would as scum is unclear at best.

VOTE: hiplop

my ISO is probably just as long and aren't I scum from your POV?

[Fate]

Your treat Zakk?

[Fate]

glad to know you were just a scumMo and not being honest with your feelings <3

[Fate]

woulda been an awesome sweep if Kagami had shot true on BSkies T_T

[Fate]

implosion was the backup vig, not Kagami.

I meant when Kagami executed ABR and not Brian Skies

[Fate]

I think its pretty amusing the only time Camn's zombie claim strategy came into play was Camn obfuscating the truth and fucking things up a bit <___<