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You're going to think about percentages and deliberately not talk about them 37% of the time? Scum!In post 189, rb wrote:There's a 63% chance I talk about percentages in every post I remember to talk about percentages in for the rest of the game.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?In post 324, Luna Fox wrote:
Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.In post 315, Nosferatu wrote:well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I interpreted the setup posts to imply that there may be multiple factions with "when all threats eliminated" type wincons. They would all be "town" in a loosely defined way.In post 343, BBmolla wrote:
There is nothing that states winning with humans = town.In post 340, Luna Fox wrote:
Im confused by what BBMolla's going on about.In post 338, Cephrir wrote:
there's no functional difference between being town and winning with the townIn post 336, Luna Fox wrote:So basically i win with town but im not explictly town then?
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This is a good point, though I imagine in a game this size and pace it will be difficult to keep new material from creeping in.In post 379, Cane + Able wrote:It's easier for me to understand reasoning for town when the content being used to explain that read was made prior to the read itself.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 435, KuroiXHF wrote:Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Game hasn't even started and already quote pyramids that take up way more than the whole screen, on a pc. I feel for anyone trying to read this on tablet or smaller.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.
Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I don't know about you, but it would never enter my head that I would need to quote myIn post 461, Cane + Able wrote:In post 459, davesaz wrote:74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.
Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.
Fucking... you too?
My entire POINT was that I thought she should have USED 74 IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE, you illiterate clown.only other post in the game(74), when writing my2nd post(263).
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Reason on Cephrir? And not on the same wavelength on the others?In post 468, Heartless wrote:
I'm on the same wavelength with the Tim read.In post 199, Heartless wrote:could vote wayward or tim. not liking beeboy posts from the salthydra
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So this got a resounding "hell no" but why did you ask in the first place?In post 363, No Retreat wrote:Should we all claim the checks we picked to limit shenanigans? DiscussWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Who did you find?In post 462, KuroiXHF wrote:I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Your question didn't have any effect, so...In post 478, No Retreat wrote:In post 463, No Retreat wrote:Who is scum?
dat echoIn post 476, davesaz wrote:
Who did you find?In post 462, KuroiXHF wrote:I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Not just post tags, but text post numbers as well. As much of a pain as they are, it might be less pain to leave them. Your choice of course, but I for one will vote for less work for you and a little bit more to read. As long as they pick up the slip by reposting in hydra.In post 522, mastin2 wrote:At this stage, really just me being slow (and cautious) keeping the game up.
Need to double-check and make sure everything is in place.
Also, as a heads up:
I'm deleting hydraslips as they appear, which I thought was harmless, but apparently might make post tags notquitework as intended. If so, let me know and I'll fix them.
Tip for hydra players, if you remove the quote tags from your slip it cuts down the quote pyramid by one.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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For the record I'm not currently scumreading the hair splitting. I question the emphasis not being placed on "having a read so early", as well as the early read itself on Titus's part, but not the hair splitting.In post 522, Cane + Able wrote: Me splitting hairs is not alignment indicative. It's a personality trait. You know me well enough to know this.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Don't like it as in it's scummy? Do you think effort is AI?In post 546, Expedience wrote:
I don't like this post because you don't specifically address anyone.In post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?
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Clarifying like that was pretty accommodating, don't you think?In post 552, rb wrote:
Silence mr.69% probability of being scum guy.In post 546, Expedience wrote:
I don't like this post because you don't specifically address anyone.In post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?
It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going.
Got it now though, it was Cane + Able. Couldn't find the fucking post because of his grey text and I'm on phone so no search function.
@Cane + Maple Syrup: can you please explain why you're dismissing the validity of the content in pre-game?
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You didn't like that the post was general in nature. General posts typically require less effort than specific. So it implied that you think less effort -> scummy. I wanted to test that logic by asking if you indeed think that way.In post 560, Expedience wrote:
Yes.In post 555, davesaz wrote:
Don't like it as in it's scummy?In post 546, Expedience wrote:
I don't like this post because you don't specifically address anyone.In post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?
It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going.
Maybe a little, please explain the relevance of this question.Do you think effort is AI?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 688, BBmolla wrote:rb is hiding behind his percentage "jokes"
Why the delay between the reason and the vote?In post 693, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: rb
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If we keep up this rate we'll be at 50 by tomorrow morning my time, and 100 by the end of the week.In post 695, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I can't speak for frozen, but I would really like us to not have a 100+ day. So, if we could maybe get a lynch by like page 50. It would just be gravy for me!
Have you been paying attention to setup details? I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with 3 or 4 similar size wagons at deadline.
Pedit: 7 new posts. re 700 If accurate that would be useful to know. re 704 I don't think you can avoid meta reads with this many players.
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Is this opportunity knocking? Or you have a reason?
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I'm pretty sure you haven't seen me play.In post 725, Luna Fox wrote:
I feel like his posts dont add much to the game in general, and i find few or no clonclusions from his questions.In post 720, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
Go on....I wasn't getting that from his posts.In post 717, Luna Fox wrote:dave maybe scum.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 590, davesaz wrote:
You didn't like that the post was general in nature.In post 560, Expedience wrote:
Yes.In post 555, davesaz wrote:
Don't like it as in it's scummy?In post 546, Expedience wrote:
I don't like this post becauseIn post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?
It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going..you don't specifically address anyone
Maybe a little, please explain the relevance of this question.Do you think effort is AI?Generalposts typically requireless effortthanspecific. So it implied that you think less effort -> scummy. I wanted to test that logic by asking if you indeed think that way.
Emphasis added by me to the 1st quote.Expedience wrote:I think davesaz is scum because 590 makes no sense.
It's a logic thing. Your post was basically If A->B and B->C then A->C. I'm pointing out that B-/>C (does not imply), therefore A->C does not follow.
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Thanks for noticing, I'm a bit wired at finally getting back to my roots, with interesting mechanics, multiple factions, and plurality lynch. It will fade once the next big problem hits at work.In post 754, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:If anything he feels more involved than normal.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 770, Klingoncelt wrote: It's after 2am my time, I've been running on 4 hours' sleep the past few nights,<snipped for clarity>
Just a little comment now while I'm calm, to potentially avoid an explosion later. RL is RL, I expect people to be generally truthful about it, and I expect people to respect it. My RL statement are always true. End PSA.In post 772, Luna Fox wrote:Apparently being (Insert time past midnight) has become the go to solution nowadays.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Why did you assume this was indirectly defending you? Wasn't Mathblade scum reading Titus? And if that is the case, wouldn't she be responding more to a confbias against her?In post 777, Expedience wrote:
Titus is defending me indirectly and saying that Mathblade is confbiasing implies that she thinks that both Mathblade and I are town. Yet she has never stated this.In post 768, MathBlade wrote:
How am I conf biasing here? I have suggested a theory of you three and potentially Nos on a different team.In post 761, Titus wrote:@Math, You're confbiasing. You do that and you're very frequently wrong, regardless of alignment and you then scumread whoever disagrees.
Confirmation bias requires a history not just a suggestion when it was my catchup post.
Explain to me how Expedience is town. Because I do not see how me posting my catchup reads upon replace in confirms Expedience as town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Yeah, post 682, or at least Math put you and Titus "together".Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Actually, when I look back at Mathblade's earlier post, umm what's up with "grouping" people so early anyway?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What Mathblade post do you think Titus is responding to? Maybe you're seeing more context than I am.In post 807, Expedience wrote:
It's not an assumption, that's literally what she's doing in 761.In post 803, davesaz wrote:
Why did you assume this was indirectly defending you? Wasn't Mathblade scum reading Titus? And if that is the case, wouldn't she be responding more to a confbias against her?In post 777, Expedience wrote:
Titus is defending me indirectly and saying that Mathblade is confbiasing implies that she thinks that both Mathblade and I are town. Yet she has never stated this.In post 768, MathBlade wrote:
How am I conf biasing here? I have suggested a theory of you three and potentially Nos on a different team.In post 761, Titus wrote:@Math, You're confbiasing. You do that and you're very frequently wrong, regardless of alignment and you then scumread whoever disagrees.
Confirmation bias requires a history not just a suggestion when it was my catchup post.
Explain to me how Expedience is town. Because I do not see how me posting my catchup reads upon replace in confirms Expedience as town.
I have no clue what you're asking me here and I think you misread what I wrote.
I thought it was in reply to Math's most recent post before 761, in which they were "cutting Titus some slack".Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Also @Expedience: 755 uses the word "someone" but I haven't seen you call it out.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Another thing that would be useful for reading LQ. I see this aIn post 821, Salt Squad wrote:3) Town don't take posts like 684 seriously and if they do they ignore it. You are feeling victimized of literally nothing.lot. TBH I don't know yet if it's AI.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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So Titus, you went from what Expedience thought was soft defense right into hard. How can you be so sure?
I have him as scum for trying to fit what I'm posting into scum motivation, but I have a weakness for OMGUSing people and want to check it vs. other evidence.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I found this and wanted to follow up to it separately. How is "people just voted him" an indication of town, in a multi-faction game? Or any game for that matter, wagons do form and sometimes they are on scum.In post 832, Titus wrote:
This is the short version of why Expedience is town aside from Math's push.In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I can't see why expe wagon formed.
people just voted him.
someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
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I'd call that a newb post, if I hadn't looked at your topic list. Did you not pay attention to the earlier discussion that giving scum info is a bad idea. Unless it's misinformation but then town will get after you for lying...In post 877, Luna Fox wrote:
Human is most definitely town.In post 873, Titus wrote:I'll admit this is a unique setup with multiple town factions, but I am supposing that town and scum still behave similarly and human = town.
There's also at least 1 non human race (mine) that needs to elminate all threats to the human treaty, but i dont know who shares this win condition.
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Thoughts on anyone else?In post 878, copper223 wrote:
This is true but trying to control the game-flow is and in my admittedly limited catch-up he gave me that impression when scoffing at reads, he is being destructive possibly cause that's not where he wants the game to go whereas when he is argumentative as town he wants to guide you to what he thinks is right.In post 868, Heartless wrote:as a side note i'm not scumreading ceph (cue the "hydra dissonance" whining, yeah bite my ass we'll work it out)
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Iso copper -- see practically empty page -- ask if there are more thoughts. Not rocket science...In post 892, Heartless wrote:that's kind of an odd post to pick out and then ask for other reads....Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@No Retreat: Is that Nero? You're just as wrong here as you have been in every game I can think of offhand.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'll do analysis tomorrow, after I see if any answers come back.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I have read to 1066, started doing deep analysis on someone, and had a work meeting that I had to play close attention to.
Y'all underperformed overnight and my prediction of 50 pages by wakeup time did not come true. lol
Once I hit submit on this quick reply I'll see how many more pages I need to catch up. I'm betting on at least 10 more...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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So to begin analysis I decided to ISO Expedience, both because of his interactions with me and because of the wagon on him.
Spoiler: Expe iso
Interactions with other players and analysis:
Song: Early in the game said they were scummy, would vote them. Later in the game 990 said he attacked them to find their alignment. No other evidence in ISO that he's doing anything to find their alignment.
Tim: Says he's town in early game. No further interactions that I noticed.
Wayward: Says their entrance was town, by way of comment to a post by Tim. Explained the read vaguely. Replied to a question from them. Defended them from Salt. Defended again, "painfully town". This all seems consistent, although the reasoning is vague. Strangely, no direct interaction via quote, though I could have missed some back/forth which had no quotes.
Luna: Says she's scum, but gives lol for a reason. Claims she's only pretending to scum read him, point out her admission that she OMGUS's as a scum claim. In 539 he as much as admits to Nahdia that he was joking. In 988 he clearly says his scum read is caused by her OMGUS (which was caused by his scum read). In 1033 he claims she's lying about their (brief) history by pointing out a game where he trolled her and she got mad -- which is exactly what he's doing here!
Well now, I should have just listened to my gut I think. In my exchanges with him I immediately thought he was trying to twist our conversation to a place where he could scumread me, but I doubted it because I have a weakness for thinking that. Turns out on a deeper look at his Luna read, he led her straight into doing what he's scum reading her for, and he admitted that he knew she would react exactly the way she did. Repeat after me, manipulation ahoy!
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If that's to me, it's spoilered on purpose.In post 1166, Cephrir wrote:im not reading these Handwritten Notes(tm)
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1184 had a quote failure, given the two quotes were from different players?
Pedit: oh, ok. Why do they suck? (I have an opinion, interested in yours)Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Why do you think that?In post 1207, RAM wrote:This is a pretty disgusting post, though.
A pokes B
B yells
A scumread B for yelling
B yells some different stuff
A scumreads B for yelling different stuff
It's pretty damn clear to me that the problem here was A poking B.
A reveals that he has purposefully poked B before.
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@RAM Not sure which head that is -- but it's well known that I'm primarily a logic guy -- just not quite well known enough I guess.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@Expedience, you quoted my question in a reply to someone else but never addressed it.
Why are you concerned about, what was the term, vague posting from one person (the post I asked you about) but not from other people (the 2nd one where I asked why you didn't respond to it).Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In my case it's that I see what I think is clear scum motivation in the form of circular logic.In post 1250, dramonic wrote:It's disturbing that you guys can read these posts and think Expe's scum and not deranged town. You guys ableist or something?
Are you legitimately seeing the fallacies and still think they're coming from town?
I have to say, I don't find you easy to read because you usually jump straight to a conclusion with little or no basis. But there have been places where you were right.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Whoa, PoE in a 28 player in d1?In post 1255, Luna Fox wrote:I'm most likely to vote on ppl out of PoE at this point.
That's going to take a heap of explaining.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm not going to say these votes are a bad thing.
Saying a little more about why you're voting would improve our chances of reading you.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What did you mean when you said PoE?In post 1270, Luna Fox wrote:If it's a likelihood what was the point of dave's question.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Sorry, I should clarify. You rarely state what the basis is, which makes it look to me that you have none.In post 1297, dramonic wrote:I don't jump with little to no basis. If I make a call it's because I'm confident in it. I'm seeing the fallacies, but they're not reading fabricated, they're reading oblivious.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Right, my mistake. Would it be jumping to conclusions to say you delayed the vote to see if Almost did anything?In post 1316, Cephrir wrote:
i already indicated my dislike of his awful non-content stack of wafflesIn post 1271, davesaz wrote:I'm not going to say these votes are a bad thing.
Saying a little more about why you're voting would improve our chances of reading you.
i think it came from scum
Molla on the other hand said he hated it but nothing about why, in a post quoting Heartless saying the same thing.
What I like the least about it is listing everyone. It's fake as hell to me to have every slot listed with something there, because to make such a list would require seriously paying attention and if paying that much attention there should be more to the list. I can't really see a motivation to a full player list unless he'strying to look town. Town should justbetown.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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BTW the lampshading post just made it worse.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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This is what I had on Expedience's interactions with Wayward, as of around post 1033. I did not update it since that point.
What I found interesting back then was a lack of obvious direct interaction with Wayward, at least in the form of quotes. I did not check the opposite direction though.I wrote: Says their entrance was town, by way of comment to a post by Tim. Explained the read vaguely. Replied to a question from them. Defended them from Salt. Defended again, "painfully town". This all seems consistent, although the reasoning is vague. Strangely, no direct interaction via quote, though I could have missed some back/forth which had no quotes.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@Dram, regarding 2113, can you give a sentence or two for each post saying why it's town?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You said they have a town mindset, generically.In post 2129, dramonic wrote:@Dave: I've given reason for why those quotes are town literally one post earlier.
I want something specific about each post that says it is a town mindset.
Not general
Each post.
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I'm not sure on Dram. Gut says town and it kinda matches Musical, but it would be awfully easy to do the exact same thing as scum. Which is why I'd like some more details.
Almost's behavior still says scum. The claim might be easy to fake, depends on whether the mod provides fakeclaim info or not. I don't like that being the only thin thread tying him to town.
I'm equally as skeptical of DGB's reads as I was of Almost's. It seems unlikely to be able to have a read on everyone.
Pedit @Dram, no I'm not a sadist, but even just a couple of them? Actual reasons and not OMG this is so towny. Yes, I'm exaggerating, you have said more than that, but it would really help.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I don't want to let Exp go completely, but I can see Dram's point well enough to move him back to nullish.
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I generally agree with 2134. Can't rule out there possibly being even scummier posts, but those would definitely be in the running.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Doing an ISO and ran across this.
The start of the sentence sounds like someone pointed this out to you. Where did that occur?In post 921, Wayward Thinker wrote:It has come to my attention that rb may have scum slipped.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The reason I did that ISO was to find out why WT are being scumread, since the divide between those townreading and scumreading the slot is quite deep. I looked at 1434 (which was cited as a major reason for the scumread) and the positions taken there are pretty reasonable. If the argument about that post was that it's too narrowly focused, that might be valid, but I don't buy into the notion that this post falls short of making points. I'm not too fond of the lack of followup on the points made there, but this game is already an excellent example of why lack of followup isn't AI by itself.
The more telling thing IMO is that the slot's overall focus is quite narrow and they seem to be actively avoiding the main controversies in the thread. This suggests trying to fly under the radar. So while the often-referenced 1434 isn't bad in its own right, the overall pattern is scummy.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord