Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[beeboy]

I have been a claimed vanilla for awhile but Varsoon has been doing all those fake cop claims I thought I would try one.
Y'know?

[beeboy]

It's ok Suzune is today's lynch anyway.

[beeboy]

The fact she is alive on day 8 is offensive.

[beeboy]

Sure let's popcorn method.

Beeboy, Universal Backup (Vanillizer) who targeted Radiant/Frozen.

Next Suzune.

Now we wait until monday to continue this.

[beeboy]

While we wait for monday if the last Asari has a strong night killable PR they can think of a fake claim.

[beeboy]

Stop making Suzune's fake claim easier.

[beeboy]

Oh wait she already claimed vig that waited to use her shot for 3 days to not shoot any of the people she wanted to get lynched :^)
seems legit

[beeboy]

And then when she shot the Nosferatu the weak role she didn't think claiming the shot was a good idea so we didn't chase after a fake guilty ^_^
seems more legit

why aren't we lynching Suzune again?

[beeboy]

I'd rather just lynch scum Suzune and have another night with the last scum not knowing who to kill.

[beeboy]

Asari have a doctor to counter turians guns so mathblade you should be scared of anything

[beeboy]

shouldn't

[beeboy]

Suzune busses tho. I hydra'd with her and I know that.
I have no idea who the Salarians as well.
Suzune never had the intention of killing Rylai it could have just been distancing.

[beeboy]

Zakk stop being bad and lynch scum.

She claimed to kill the weak role she killed n3 on day 7 that isn't what town do.

[beeboy]

Town claim shots immediately to avoid misleading town.

[beeboy]

Zakk stop being bad I don't have bullshit knowledge that lets me know who Salarian are or else PV would be alive.

[beeboy]

dw MathBlade I have an idea who the last Turian is so we can win Kingsmaker.
I also know who our last Asari bro is.

[beeboy]

don't worry.

[beeboy]

is what dw means

[beeboy]

I am almost thinking we lynch a human today.

Then we just have the same problems we have on later days tbh.

[beeboy]

Suzune already claimed yesterday when she was L-1 so dw guys hammer away

[beeboy]

MathBlade the day hasn't even been on for 24 hours lol.

[beeboy]

I'd advise the last Asari to not claim but if the last Turian is down to claim more power to em.

[beeboy]

oh my bad.

[beeboy]

Why is Suzune losing votes when she should be gaining votes?

[beeboy]

It took 7 day phases and Suzune being VLA and she flipped town.
This game sux.

[beeboy]

Vote:Suzu

Nah I am ending this

She didn't even come to defend herself, things are pretty obvious here

This hammer sucked btw

I am waiting on MathBlade tho cause I clearly can't lynch scum.

[beeboy]

I am thinking Shiro.

[beeboy]

I have wanted this game to end for awhile tbh I never expected to survive past night 2

[beeboy]

I am also still mad scum killed smith over the 5 conf towns running around like wtf

[beeboy]

VOTE: Shiro

[beeboy]

It sucks Mathblade is being role blocked tho

[beeboy]

MathBlade can you do your murdersmith on Varsoon if you get a negative result there is a decent chance he has a vig available

[beeboy]

I don't win with you.

[beeboy]

I win with the towns Turians are just scum without factional communication

[beeboy]

Klingon gave me a fun and presumably redirected along with scum seeing Klingons role and redirecting me cause Varsoon is alive.

[beeboy]

Gun*

[beeboy]

Something, universal backup (vanillizer)

[beeboy]

Why would Klingon give you a gun and not Varsoon?

Given my kill didn't resolve I am assuming redirection

[beeboy]

Why would I lie about that?
If someone wants to have claimed to have received a gun from Klingon night 2 be my guest.

[beeboy]

I haven't once tried to get you lynched lol.

[beeboy]

Ok I lied that black mail thing was totally me trying to lynch you.

[beeboy]

I received a gun at the end of night 3 I shot varsoon night 4.

[beeboy]

I fact checked that and apparently I was wrong.

[beeboy]

I don't feel like mass claiming imo considering kills aren't resolving every night lol

[beeboy]

Wait who looked at the game state of 4 nights without kills or limited kills in a row and went "guize we need to out all our PRs" cause I am not sure if that person is town.

[beeboy]

Also why does Ooba of all people need to role claim considering he is conf town lol

[beeboy]

Redirector is the only explanation night 4 an additional kill was blocked scum is sucking harder then you think

[beeboy]

If you seriously are being blocked there is probably a scum Redirector redirecting you to yourself

[beeboy]

There is a redirecotr somewhere out there or a doc protected Varsoon n4 and Klingon was crazy

[beeboy]

Redirector is the only explanation night 4 an additional kill was blocked scum is sucking harder then you think

Then that would require:

1) Loud Redirector Geth Aligned
2) Lightning Rod Turian Aligned
3) X Another redirector ? aligned that redirected KlingonCelt to Beeboy for shits and giggles?

Like why?

We have 3 neighborizer so 3 redirectord isn't out of the question.

[beeboy]

Ranger, Rylai and Party boat

[beeboy]

If you seriously are being blocked there is probably a scum Redirector redirecting you to yourself

Nope if I was redirected to myself I would get something like

Your target is of the Asari race.
Your target has not tried murdering anyone.

Can you confirm that?

There are currently 3 roles out to get you btw.
Turian and 2 scums

[beeboy]

Asari cop can't be redirected though so you are definitely being role blocked.

[beeboy]

Suzune's guilty was me.

[beeboy]

90% most people knew the guilty was either an opinion or me.

[beeboy]

The last Asari and Turian aren't claiming 4 sure.
Sorry but scum hunt without that info

[beeboy]

I wish Suzune was alive, tunneling her made me forget about all the stuff I am not enjoying in this game like binding myself to kingsmaker day 1 with Varsoon.

[beeboy]

VOTE: ooba

[beeboy]

VOTE: mathblade

I missed the part where Shiro honest claimed his scum actions

[beeboy]

VOTE: shiro

[beeboy]

I don't get why Shiro role blocked math blade every night. If mathblade had cop results every single player would be cleared by now.

[beeboy]

VOTE: varsoon

Good case

[beeboy]

That case was pretty incriminating

[beeboy]

Dunno at the very least we should get him to l-1 with Mathblade off the wagon so the last Turian is forced to claim

[beeboy]

Cause I am really convinced he is the scum right now and would like to ease that fear before we continue

[beeboy]

If he is really Turian (which I highly doubt) getting the last Turian to claim isn't anti human tho.

[beeboy]

Like God Zakk really made me see this in a new light I can't believe I let Varsoon fool me

[beeboy]

Man you should wagon Varsoon!scum with us

[beeboy]

But I just want the last Turian to claim so I can win kingmaker and win with town
UNVOTE:

sits in corner

[beeboy]

Hm, wouldn't one of the other turians have checked Varsoon though?

This Turian should claim and we should threaten Varsoons life

[beeboy]

VOTE: Varsoon

I feel enlightened

[beeboy]

MathBlade sheep this it is a 10/10 wagon.

[beeboy]

and since geth had a cop.

and krogan had a cop..

would it stand to reason that Sala would have some type of cop?

Geth - Ranger Neighborizer
Salarian - R&L Neighborizer

Krogan - PartyBoat Neighborizer

Geth - Dwlee Cop

Salarian - BBmolla Cop

Krogan - PV alignment cop

If the game is breakable using this method I am questioning the design process behind this game.

[beeboy]

The best is he 99% chance isn't submitting night actions

[beeboy]

I kind of just want to lynch Ooba without waiting for a replacement so no one has to take that abysmal slot with a 0% survival rate.

[beeboy]

I think it is impressive Ooba has prod dodged without posting for over 1 month tbh.

[beeboy]

I lol'd

[beeboy]

Also, Zakk, there's no way for me to publicly campaign for a beeboy lynch given that other multiple other asari have confirmed him as asari.
The best I can do is be friends with the guy.

Aww <3
I lynched my last friend Suzune tho so idk if you want me as a friend.

[beeboy]

cause they're scum

[beeboy]

^ scum post

Our glorious saviour Zakk is right

[beeboy]

Page top as well

[beeboy]

You aren't a salarian though you are actually a Krogan which is why you haven't killed me.
Pls

[beeboy]

That is pretty hot.

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:

[beeboy]

Meh i am going to counter wagon this.

VOTE: Shiro

[beeboy]

Shiro >_> I don't consider blocking MathBlade's cop results all game a pro human mindset. >_>

[beeboy]

MathBlade getting killed at night = sort of kind of anti town.
MathBlade losing cop results = very anti town.

[beeboy]

I am going to be real my only fear with this game is it is inevitably ending in kingmaker and that is really demotivating me.

[beeboy]

Sigh we aren't lynching Cakez
UNVOTE:

[beeboy]

VOTE: Ooba

let's just PL this please.

[beeboy]

I think MathBlade not having results is bro Asari in all honesty >_>

[beeboy]

pro*

[beeboy]

Also it's pro turian as well but eh trade offs.

[beeboy]

Math godfathers be godfathering.

[beeboy]

come on Math you know you want to.

[beeboy]

I don't think PartyBoat is a Turian.
He is a neighborizer so if he targeted klingon the Turians could just become a 3rd scum faction which is really busted.

[beeboy]

PartyBoat is a turian wtf
WHY ARE TURIANS SO STACKED HOLY

[beeboy]

I am down to lynch PartyBoat now btw.
I misread him

[beeboy]

But the guiltless can work against us :/

literally having private coms, literally having access to a kill and lightning rods are all totally unfair >:(

[beeboy]

I have full claimed like 10 times this game.

I am a universal back up who picked up a 1-shot vanillizer who vanillized R&L

[beeboy]

Shiro just so you know I am going to tell you a secret.
I have sort of assumed partyboat was Krogan all game which is why I didn't want him lynched :/
Varsoon is a good player who is full of sneaky tricks and would probably defend a scum ally.

I know my reads have literally 0 credibility now that he claimed turian but I am down to lynch party.

[beeboy]

Well I win kingmaker if he is honest claiming because the last Asari is hidden YIPPIE.

[beeboy]

Because all the policy lynch crap suzune was advocating all game.

[beeboy]

Asari - Aria
Human - Helena Blake

[beeboy]

Policy lynching people she was "aligned" with?

she literally tried to lynch me day 7 because she thought Asari's where sheeping me and wanted to eliminate me as the leader or something. Then on day 8 said she wanted to help give the underdogs the Turians a chance to win and go out in a blaze of glory still lynching me.

Also Zakk you and Shiro where also advocating lynches on Asari for awhile lol.

[beeboy]

Like I was up for a PL on many occasions.

[beeboy]

This brought a tier to my eye :')

MathBlade we are a great team.

[beeboy]

I am not denying that I was, at the time it was pro human to do so.

Oh it was, I for obvious reasons need to argue against that notion at the time.

[beeboy]

needed*

[beeboy]

needed*

[beeboy]

needed*

[beeboy]

What was the mod answer to "can two humans and two asari win together"

Yes

[beeboy]

Guys vote cake please, he was obviously protected by party.

Salarian practically 99% oof the time

I thought he was conf town.

[beeboy]

VOTE: molla
or duppin
I want these lynches.

[beeboy]

^ I am with Varsoon a win or loss through kingmaker kind of doesn't matter to me.

[beeboy]

My problem here is I genuinely think Party is scum and Varsoon would probably cover for a salarian so he can get a real win rather then some kingmaker crap

[beeboy]

Like Turians aren't really incentivized to out Salarians right now.

[beeboy]

Your lack of Turian cop result on him is a good start.
Neighborizer for one of the survivor factions being totally busted is another.

[beeboy]

Why would a Turian counter claim a Salarian? Salarians and Turians are kind of allies.
Partyboat only claims as Turian or salarian nothing else.

[beeboy]

Millard and Duppin are the only other lynches I would consider doing.

[beeboy]

Molla*[

[beeboy]

Writing off PartyBoat as town has a decent chance of biting you all in the ass.

[beeboy]

Turians won't counter claim claimed Turians because they are likely scum allies.
But if we are lynching scummy Turians I would rather lynch Partyboat.

[beeboy]

You guys what say let's save someone a lot of time and just lynch the slot

There have already been like 35 people involved in this game and it took me over a month to get a handle on the game

I think the new slot if town will do nothing and if scum will AtE like crazy so I am down for this because I don't want to deal with either.

[beeboy]

like I don't want to make someone read this game in all honesty considering most of the day phases where total bs and we don't have use for a replacement that won't read the game.

[beeboy]

So it is a lose lose situation

VOTE: ooba

[beeboy]

Cakez u better hammer Ooba.

[beeboy]

don't you do this to me.
PLs are the best lynches.

[beeboy]

Sigh.

[beeboy]

What if I told you I got a guilty on them ^_^

[beeboy]

but you have to believe me because I am conf asari wtf.

[beeboy]

MathBlade I plan on sheeping you.

[beeboy]

Claiming ascetic was kind of a death wish tbh.

[beeboy]

he didn't have much of a choice though so not his fault.

[beeboy]

I would lynch molla today.

[beeboy]

VOTE: molla

[beeboy]

Shiro is kind of the last Asari... >_>

[beeboy]

Shiro is kind of the last Asari... >_>

[beeboy]

Beeboy list your checks each night please

Are you assuming godfather here?

[beeboy]

Ok I lied shiro isn't an Asari.
Kingmake me now.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Shiro

[beeboy]

molla i just gave you an out.

[beeboy]

I never checked Shiro

[beeboy]

MathBlade you are 100% sure you want me to out the last Asari.
Because we can lose kingmaker that way.

[beeboy]

As in I will not tell you the last Asari because I refuse to lose kingmaker on some random bs.

[beeboy]

VOTE: molla

[beeboy]

VOTE: varsoon

[beeboy]

VOTE: no lynch

[beeboy]

VOTE: varsoon

[beeboy]

i lied let's do this

[beeboy]

I lied Shiro is an Asari.
I think Molla Salarian claimed though.

[beeboy]

VOTE: molla

[beeboy]

I think this is a scum win o3o

[beeboy]

Me + Mathblade + last Asari + Krogan = majority

[beeboy]

My problem with letting town win is #1 they made beefboy #2 they would have only won because we kingmade them.

Also it posses the risk of us not having majority tomorrow and ending in a draw with the Turian.
MathBlade worked the hardest out of our team so I am letting them make the judgement call.

[beeboy]

VOTE: varsoon

I am going to park my vote here and think about this.

[beeboy]

Kingmaker is dumb

[beeboy]

Cakez vote with Varsoon scum have a majority and we are winning with them because a scum win feels like the situation with the least amount of kingmaking.

[beeboy]

Actually Asari mathematically win no matter what.

Krogan won't kill Asari and it becomes a matter of who we win with. Which means mathematically Varsoon has to die.

Krogan kill a human (or Varsoon if we don't lynch him) and then it becomes whether the Krogan or human get lynched to end the game :/

Fuck I don't want to decide who wins

If we lynch the last Krogan there is actually a chance the game ends in a draw if human + Turian keep no lynching or Titus calls the game with no scum remaining which means winning with scum is arguably the "most optimal" way of winning.
I am trying to justify what side we let win strategically here not morally since I think that is the most fair method.

[beeboy]

:/:/:/:/
I am still not completely decided this feels shitty.

[beeboy]

Actually I don't want this game to end in a draw, we can kingmake tomorrow.

[beeboy]

I also outed the last scum so ehhh

[beeboy]

Vote Varsoon pls

[beeboy]

Thanks for modding Titus and Firebringer ^_^

[beeboy]

Some odd things of note

Asari!Rolestopper protecting Turian.
Turian!Gunsmith giving the sole gun they gave to Asari!Beeboy. Who shot Turian!Varsoon. Who was protected by Asari!Rolestopper.

LOL

[beeboy]

I wanted to be dead night 1 and I survived the entire game lol.

[beeboy]

@Titus can the dead thread be released? ^_^

[beeboy]

[beeboy]

@Titus can the dead thread be released? ^_^

I announced I was giving 48 hours for the dead to object.

I was not aware the dead thread was included in that. My bad.

[beeboy]

I think Cakez learned a valuable lesson about protective roles.
You target people you want alive not dead.

[beeboy]

I was pretty sure Suzune was town when we lynched her. If you ctrl+f my name in her ISO you could see why I didn't want her alive.

[beeboy]

lmfao KC i still have no damn clue what you were thinking there. he's our ENEMY yo

Sister I thought we where friends.........

[beeboy]

I wouldn't trust Varsoon with a gun as well tbh.

[beeboy]

I liked when I black mailed Varsoon and derailed the thread for like 25 pages :')

[beeboy]

</3

[beeboy]

I don't know how a claimed VAnilla Asari was supposed to use that power.