Doctor Who Mafia 2- GAME OVER!

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I know what to do. It's the will of the people.

unvote, vote: Taffmaster

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He railed about Aisar, and some lame comment about my predecessor Xythar, that's about it.

Aisar was railing against Taffmaster, Theo, claimed to be scum with Taff and ABR, then voted for me, claimed to be scum with Theopor_COD, Cicero, Xythar, Yosarian2, Tarhalindur and WomensRights...

I've only read half the game but it's hard not to vote for Aisar/Roach or er... Xythar aka myself.

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Why did you guys ignore this?

I AM SCUM LYNCH ME PLEASE I CANT PLAY ANYMORE HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY 1 =)

Thanls for that. I missed this post entirely. I meta'd him just now. He's a lying little dick. He claimed cop when he was a townie in his newbie game. He hates that the games here take so long. I wouldn't trust anything he said because I think he hates the site and is a childish brat. BM can modkill him or replace him as he deems appropriate.

Town can vote him for an easy scum kill but don't be surprised if he turns out to not be scum. He acted like a shit in his newbie game.

Ya know... that post bugs me. Damage control much?

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Got it.

unvote, vote: Cicero

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I see Cicero's reaction more clearly now.

Taff's reactions are pretty town.

unvote

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Game's a little disheartening. I'll pick back up when it seems to be worth it.

You're more than a little disheartening yourself. Why don't you make an effort? Are you demoralized scum? You want to make things hop? Vote for someone. Vote for Flameaxe! Vote for me! Do something.

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Good idea! Here's something to make it worth it again.

unvote, vote: ChronX

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Okay, dokay, I'm in.

vote: Roach

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DOUBLE POST:

While I'm glad one of the mafia has been modkilled, I'm still concerned with Flameaxe's behavior in the game.

Did you notice we're starting a wagon on you? Or are you pretending not to?

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ChronX also outed himself from a Mini he'd signed up for (the Normal Mini sign up thread I think). I might be wrong, but it doesn't look like it's related to this game.

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Since I am not feeling the wagons against the current leaders, I've decided to look back on the game with my secret formula.

vote: ChanelDelibird

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ARgh!~!!!!!! You know you can't train old monkeys!

unvote, vote ChannelDelibird

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Oh alright. I am going to go along with this. Team spirit and all.

unvote, vote IamMars (aka ChronX)

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unvote, vote: Flameaxe

- out of exasperation I suppose.

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I am not restricted in any way. In fact - I got confused with an ongoing game that shall remain nameless, and

unvote Flameaxe, vote: ChannelDelibird

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My vote for Flameaxe does not belong to this game. And since Iammars's claim is credible, I am going to go back to ChannelDelibird, who was involved, early in the day, to what I believe to be distancing.

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Also, didn't you say:

Taff's reactions are pretty town.

Doesn't mean he's town. Maybe it means I think he's scum and I am trying to avoid being nightkilled.

Let me explain my reasoning, since I was too lazy to spell it out earlier on.

Taff was the first wagon in the game. Reeked of Day 1 distancing. By page two, these were the people voting for him:

Tarhalindur
ChannelDelibird
Erg0
theopor_COD
cicero
Aisar

I GUARANTEE all of you, that if Taff turns up scum, at least one of these 6 players is scum. Maybe even two, depending on how much scum there is in this setup.

Maybe Taff was telling the truth in this post: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 132#811132

After that I look at reciprocal distancing, ie, between Taff and another player. Theo, cicero, ABR, ChronX, CDB, Xythar, erg0, Yos - but especially cicero.

I could pick between any of these players, really, Tarhalindur, ChannelDelibird, Erg0, theopor_COD, cicero - ChannelDelibird being also guilty of the crime of lurking got the vote.

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If someone could do a PBPA on me, that would be win.

Ugh? That would be the WIN? How? Is this some teenage lingo I am unfamiliar with?

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How could we have missed this!!! ??? !!!

[DrippingGoofball]

So, your astonishing conclusion is that,

if

Taffmaster is scum, then one of these

six

players must also may be scum.

Hey, it's Day 1. Gimme a break. That's all I got.

Which brings me back to, if you think Taffmaster is scum in the first place, why wouldn't you vote him?

Because although he looks like he's part of a distancing scheme, he doesn't look too scummy.

Doesn't your whole "distancing" theory go out the window if he

isn't

scum?

That's true.

Whereas, if we lynch the person you are currently voting for "distancing" and he turns up town, that tells us exactly what? Are you then going to move on to your

next

most likely suspect for "distancing?"

That's also true, it wouldn't be hugely informative. Again. It's Day 1. What do you want me to do? Crack the game?

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I see. I forgot that, thanks.

I think you might have brought the game to a standstill with that boring comment.

Care to comment on Taff vs. Roach if you haven't already?

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Can we lynch whoever I'm voting already?

You scumbag! You say you want a lynch, and you aren't even voting! Whassup with that?

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##unvote: Cicero
##vote Dripping Goofball

Boom. Headshot.

Brilliant. I went to check out your "contribution" and so far, it hasn't been stellar. And I noticed that you started the game voting for Tarhalindur. Hey, maybe the two of you were distancing? Since I am on the fence about voting for Tarhalindur or Oman, you've just given me a reason to go one way rather than the other.

vote: Tarhalindur

Oh, and if Tarhalindur comes up scum, whoever has the power to make a nightkill for the town should at the very least give our little friend "caps" some consideration.

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You are mixing up games again. Oman is in fact, dead, and cannot be voted for.

unvote

Whoa... I am going to ask my doctor to increase my dose of Senilexx... I am indeed mixing up games again.

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No, if she was a Jester, she would have already been lynched. I saw her a jester once, it was a sight to behold.

Yes, thank you. It was the pinnacle of my achievements on this site. A legendary performance, if you don't mind my saying so myself.

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No, if she was a Jester, she would have already been lynched. I saw her a jester once, it was a sight to behold.

Yes, thank you. It was the pinnacle of my achievements on this site. A legendary performance, if you don't mind my saying so myself.

Please link to relevant game. I want to read this.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 227#387227

Note how I replaced at a time when Twomz was at lynch -1, and with a looming deadline to boot. The tide was about to turn.

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I hope this is the right game...

Good point regarding caps. Caps must go.

vote: caps

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Two possibilities here:

(1) caps is scum and wants to out the real doctor before going down in flames.
(2) caps is the real doctor, in which case he'll be dead tomorrow anyway. And since he doesn't know who the cop is, chances that he'll protect the right player tonight are dismal.

Scum seems more likely because no doctor in their right mind would claim doctor with so little pressure.

Also, I wonder, if caps is false claiming, perhaps the real doctor should shut up and not counterclaim.

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Then what are you going to do when Vollkan and FlameAxe flip scum when the game is over?

It's not like you have an investigation on them.

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I like the IamMars wagon.

vote: Iammars

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Axel if you got nothing bright to say than keep that mouth shut.

:nothelpful:, Albert. Axel is a strong player, and I don't see what he's said that "wasn't bright"; personally, I want him to post more, not less.

Yes, but something tells me that Albert's post is of the "reading between the lines" variety. Maybe.

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As an aside, getting recruited by a cult is one of my mafia lifetime goals. But with the cult leader being dead, I doubt I'm going to be in the cult this game.

Anyway, Shteven, why bring up the cult speculation? We have no evidence that the cult exists beyond its leader, Pooky. Unless we get more cult members popping up, we should consider the cult dead.

I appreciate you thinking that I'm protown though.

Congratulations!

You DID fulfill your other lifetime goal of sounding like a lying cult recruit in this post.

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Actually now that I think about it, we had three kills last night. There might be two scum groups and Pooky just tried to recruit scum.

Or,

much more obviously

we have a vig and/or a SK? Covering up, mister cult recruit?

Tie up your shoelaces, you keep tripping.

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What kind of vig kills N1?

A bad one, I've seen it happen more than once.

Anyway. The cult recruitment business, while funny, is low-probability, low-priority. Moving on.

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It's possible we have an SK/Vig, and it's possible he tried to recruit scum and died. If someone suggests one, you can't assert they're wrong and are lying; as a townie, how would you know? Unless, of course, you're the SK. I doubt you are, but that would be the only case where you could be certain, and since you seem to hate people who miss cases, I thought I'd mention it.

I must have a problem with reading comprehension.

What does this mean?

It's possible we have an SK/Vig, and it's possible he tried to recruit scum and died.

And what does this mean?

If someone suggests one, you can't assert they're wrong and are lying; as a townie, how would you know? Unless, of course, you're the SK.

How about this one?

I doubt you are, but that would be the only case where you could be certain, and since you seem to hate people who miss cases, I thought I'd mention it.

What is he trying to say?

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Not at all interested in encryption. I am a mafia artist, not a mathematician.

Everyone not voting should do so immediately.

unvote, vote: Shteven

- Because he offended me earlier. Learn to respect Goofballs, Shteven.

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Ibby is uncharacteristically lurkish, isn't she? Haven't played much with her. Anyone has better insight on her contribution so far compared to her behavior in other games?

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I like Schteven's play too much to vote him.

I like Albert B. Rampage's play too much to vote him.

Just kidding.

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Vote MoS

Hypothesis: MoS doesn't have a killing role.

Supporting evidence: I was not nightkilled.

[DrippingGoofball]

how sure are you that you are fully sane and competent as a cop?

There's only one way to find out.

vote: cicero

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Anyone in favor of me waiting?

Don't waste our time on this no-brainer.

You claim right now, and then we lynch you. Capice?

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1. If what you say is true, then why did you investigate MoS? If you thought Mars was scum with Cicero wouldn't it make sence to investigate Mars instead of MoS?

The answer to that one is absolutely 100% obvious. I won't answer it because if I do, I'll be feeding ABR answers and I don't want to do that. Hint: we lynched Mars yesterday and he'd be a very poor choice to investigate, roleblock, or doc-protect. That's the thing with dead players. They're poor night choices no matter the circumstances.

2. Why are you voting MoS instead of Cicero?

I can think of some explanations for that one, but I'll let ABR speak.

We don't need to have the answer to that question for cicero to claim. Especially since cicero is really wanting to wait, he really wants to delay it, that's obvious. To me, that's more reason why he needs to claim now. The longer we wait the greater the chances he'll make up something clever.

Cicero - claim.

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We lynched Mars yesterday, DG? I don't remember doing that. The name Shteven rings a bell though.

Thought we did... where's that blushing face emoticon... aw! Here it is!

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QFT

Unvote. Vote Taffmaster

And can we all try not to turn on each other for fast wagoning? This one is kinda blatantly obvious and I want a piece of it too.

WHEN THIS GUY TURNS UP TO BE TOWN DONT BE MAD AT ME FOR VOTING HIM

Yes - if you turn out town everyone can lynch me next.

Conversely, if Taffmaster showed up as scum - I'm not necessarily a townie. I could be bussing him or distancing him.

It's interesting that cicero was willing to wager his own skin that Taffmaster is scum. BUS'ing much?

TOP SUSPECT: Taffmaster.

Why are people starting to vote Mastermind of Sin in this game??

MoS must be innocent, haha.

Taffmaster's vote against Yosarian was not a scumtell. It was a political statement. I'm not counting it against him.

Wonder what that meant.

For everyone else - I know Daleks, Slytheens(sp?), Cybermen, and Face of Boe now. Are there any other really MAJOR recurring enemies or friends of the Doctor that I should check out?

Note: cicero is faking that he doesn't know how to spell "Slytheens."

cicero also berates Yosarian2 a bit, and especially ChronX.

I don't think Roach is scum [...].

Aisar was a bored asshat [...]He claimed vanilla townie and I believe him.

I predict [Roach's] play will be distracting and likely look very scummy.[...] I predict once dead he will probably turn up vanilla townie (but that there are still worse things that could happen to be honest).[...]Just getting my opinion on the record.[...]If you want to lynch Roach EVEN THOUGH he's obv townie though... well... I guess that would remove an irritating player AND give me lots of wagon jumpers to lynch.
There's plenty of room over on my ChronX wagon though, if you guys want to stop kicking puppies and start playing for real now.

Noted. Roach is town. Maybe Aisar too. ChronX is scum

SECOND SUSPECT: ChronX

Are you of the mistaken impression that Axelrod was the only player voting for me or considering voting for me?

Axelrod bus'ing cicero? A possibility...

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Oh yeah - last night I protected Adel which not only didn't help her - it made me wonder if I actually killed her.

Night zero I didn't send in a night choice.

What kind of doctor doesn't send in a night choice?

Why shouldn't we lynch you? You'll be nightkilled anyway. Might as well find out your true allegiance today, so that the vig can shoot down the right player. Wouldn't you selflessly agree?

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You know, Albert, as I believe there has been at least one time you lied and claimed cop when you were pro-town but not a cop, that kind of comment does not exactally fill me with confidence.

Mmmmm... didn't know that.

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I believe that Martha Jones has NOT finished her exams, and is not a practicing doctor. Not sure if that's hot or cold. Just thought I'd mention it.

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I couldn't care less. Lynch away. Damage is done. I have no one useful to protect and town is way ahead. I don't have a good reason for not sending in a night choice. I think I just forgot. What kind of dumbass scum doesn't MAKE UP a night choice for night one is the real question. But oh yeah, I know the answer to that: WIFOM.

Kids, if you think it's good for the town to lynch me, lynch me.

If it turns out Albert is actually town and not the cop he's a fucking asshole.

Actually - if you are alive tonight, wouldn't you be able to effectively protect ABR even if you end up nightkilled?

We would have one more result from ABR tomorrow - IF he's the cop for real.

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Right Albert?

Don't you want cicero to protect you tonight? He's going to be nightkilled if he's the Doctor, he'll be dead tomorrow, and you'll be alive with one more result!

Anything wrong with that plan?

*wink*

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Even if by some off-chance that he's telling the truth, he will probably VIG me instead of protecting me.

Nooo... he can only protect you.

Let's see.

If you are nightkilled, and cicero isn't, we lynch cicero tomorrow anyway.
If you are not nightkilled and cicero is alive, we have to lynch cicero.
If you are not nightkilled, and cicero is dead, c'est la vie.

If cicero is scum, he'll take his chances and not NK you. So we have another result from you - whether cicero is scum, or town. No?

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There are also enough NK roles that one live doctor wont save him. Scum will hit twice.

Protection works against multiple kills.

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If you are Slitheenm, DGB is probably too.

FoS DGB

You're just tiffed because my proposal is slowing down cicero's lynch.

If protection doesn't work against multiple kills then it's a no-brainer, no dicussion needed.

mod: Does doc-protection work against multiple kill attempts?

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Checking in a sec but I dont have time to post properly

I dont think I want to put a vote on cicero.

@ PokerFace

^^^^
Read the above comment from Taffmaster.

Then read cicero's attack on Taffmaster VERY CAREFULLY.

This is what I found:

cicero to Taffmaster:
"if you turn out town everyone can lynch me next."
"if Taffmaster showed up as scum - I'm not necessarily a townie. I could be bussing him or distancing him."

Do you think the above might mean that cicero was bus'ing Taffmaster?

Your opinion please.

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I chose to protect Mcpaltp on night zero.

Who is McPalpt and why protect him? Like you guessed he'd be number one choice for the nightkill? Is he, like, so super-sneaky clever that the scum can't allow him to live???

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In other news, I would be very appreciative if the person who stole MoS's vote N1 would 'fess up.

If I could he'd be my first choice, but I can't and I didn't. I wish I did.

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If there's a better way for me to do night 0 protects

let me know.

Yes, yes there is, and you don't need to be the most experienced player to know how. Wouldn't you guess that players like BM, Pooky, and Glork (and myself, ah, I feel like flattering myself) are night action magnets? Especially for the scum. The scum will want to eliminate active players that are good at finding scum.

And never, ever bother protecting MoS or Quagmire. The scum doesn't want to nightkill these two.

McPalpt? Gimme a break.

You're too smart for such a stupid choice, cicero. You are the liar.

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Well I just parsed the wording and it says that I managed to pass my exams, that I intend to use my medical skills to help.

Nice try but Martha Jone has not passed her exams.

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If cicero is telling the truth, it's possible he's an "insane doc", a doc who kills anyone he targets (in other words, the mod tells him he's a doc, but he's actually a vig).

Earth calling Yosarian2! Earth calling Yosarian2! Do you hear us?
McPalpt wasn't killed, why are you saying if cicero is telling the truth he's an insane doc that kills his target????

Nominee: Yosarian2
Category: Most bizarre statement.

It's like you're trying to cover up for cicero but it's gone terribly wrong hasn't it...

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Also - send me some of your stained glass in your remorse. It's Christmas. It'll make a good gift for someone.

Aw, shucks, you're a sweet kid aren't you. Except that next time, don't say it'll make a good gift for someone. Say "I will cherish it always" - then give it to your least favorite teacher or the newspaper delivery guy.

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Um, I DID, in fact, correct that about 5 minutes later, you know, when I finished getting caught up and noticed Cicero had changed his claim; I was thinking insane doc when he said Adel was the only person he had targeted.

Nomimation retracted! No longer qualifies.

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He claims to have targeted me, and I live. I did not notice him at night. I feel evil in his nature, but also feel his aloneness. He is too dangerous to live.

Vote:Cicero

Why are Yos and mcPedipalp getting the idea that cicero is a killer doctor? Where did I miss that?

[DrippingGoofball]

Adel-----> I still think it's highly probable that I killed her.

So now you're basically a vig?

[DrippingGoofball]

The Daleks targeted Mastermind of Sin and managed to steal his vote.

I missed this. Where is this information coming from?

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Also people discussing Martha Jones Allignment as a character, theres no reason for BM to have mixed up the game and made her scum

Are you saying that you support cicero's claim, and that maybe ABR is, say, insane?

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Since no one has counterclaimed cop I doubt that ABR is insane. He's probably sane.

Cicero doesn't sound like a miller role.

confirm vote: cicero

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I WIFOM a lot. But then in other spots I concede.

Mafiascum historic moment:

WIFOM within WIFOM.

mathematical notation: WI(WIFOM)FOM

Cicero is like the Russian doll of WIFOM. Open one WIFOM doll, and there's another, smaller WIFOM doll inside. Again and again.

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[...]do we have any evidence of these

Smithereens

in game?

Are you per chance a Slitheen pretending not to know the difference between a Slitheen and a Smithereen? You should know from your scumrole PM.

If I were a dayvig I'd be testing that theory on the spot.

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Never lynch tomorrow a player you should lynch today.

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I feel like I am being played for a fool in this game.

unvote

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Especially regarding me, she has barely even mentioned me except to jokingly speculate that I don't have a killing role and that I was being voted because I'm probably town in this game.

That's right! You got a free pass in this game. Enjoy!

There are people with more information that I have, and the game is quite active, so I lay back. The trees are practically shaking themselves.

I don't see the case against McPedipalp, other than the refusal to demonstrate the PR is real. It is worth testing though.

vote: McPedipalp

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Unvote, Vote: DGB

Anyone who has played with her before should be able to look at her last post and know there's a problem with her in this game.

It's sooooo easy to play with your mind... and there are so many ways...

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^^^I'm not the only one who sees this, DGB. This has nothing to do with whatever feud you think we have going on. You have some explaining to do.

What do you want me to say, sweetie? In this game, you're all cute and fuzzy and cuddly. Like a big soft teddy bear. I have have this urge to buy you an ice cream cone. I don't know why I feel that way. Just relax and enjoy your break.

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unvote, vote ABR

Screw it all. I've just adopted a 'kill Albert at the earliest opportunity in all games, regardless of anything' meta.

Oh, you wanna play those games? Not in games I'm in, you don't.

unvote, vote: TheFonz

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Players who are always a detriment to the town regardless of alignment should ALWAYS be killed at the earliest possible moment.

That's why we have vigs.

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Albert has his own style. I enjoy it. I like the Fonz too, he plays the game. I hate to see two people I like getting into squirmishes.

I think Korlash should come out of his igloo and bring some Alaska-cold ice cream for everyone.

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They should just call this Grudge mafia...
Early Predictions in my reread... I think Kanaga, Jamuraan, and Flameaxe are most likely mafia... Getting town vibes from Yamahako and Caps, and I am not so sure about Vollkan...
>.>

Yay for being helpful!

29. Kanaga (Dalek Caan) - Mafia Goon, killed Night 0
25. Jamuraan (Dalek Thay) - Mafia Goon, Modkilled Day 1
5. Vollkan (Dalek Emperor) - Mafia Godfather, Killed Night 1

I'm laughing my head off... Korlash... you're a genius. Three out of four! Only they're dead, except for Flameaxe.

Let's kill Flameaxe!

vote: Flameaxe

[DrippingGoofball]

Unvote.

defile corpse: Flameaxe

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah... I am pretty awesome aren't I?

You are. Looking at the LIVING players, who is scum? Don't bother making some anal-retentive, nitpicky, long case. Vague hunches and impressions is all we need. Trust your instincts!

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Maybe I'm being unimaginative, but I can see no *good* reason for a pro-town player to disrupt other players' attempts to scumhunt. (Come to think of it, Korlash has been doing that too... and DGB seems to be throwing a softball at Korlash in her last post... bussing, perhaps? )

Bus'ing Korlash??? Hell no. As a townie, I wouldn't vote for Korlash if he claimed scum, that's how much I like to be in a game with him.

If you're trying to get Korlash to scumhunt,

He will. I actually trust his instincts. That part wasn't a joke, even though I knew it would be interpreted as one.

[...] and asking someone else to hunt for scum when you haven't been scumhunting yourself is very hypocritical.

Awww, take a chill pill. Korlash has just replaced in, I am very happy, and looking forward to his opinion.