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I don't know. I tend to think the exact opposite.In post 238, Maxous wrote:YAW probably would of put more effort into the defense if they were buddies with SC.
I could see him slightly defending his buddy to test the waters or what not, but if he doesn't gain any traction on his defense, I'd expect him to back off.-
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If I agree with someone's reasoning, and vote with them because of it, is that not sheeping?In post 243, PeregrineV wrote:In post 242, Xkfyu wrote:
I don't know. I tend to think the exact opposite.In post 238, Maxous wrote:YAW probably would of put more effort into the defense if they were buddies with SC.
I could see him slightly defending his buddy to test the waters or what not, but if he doesn't gain any traction on his defense, I'd expect him to back off.
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Fair enough.In post 253, PeregrineV wrote:Not in my book. Sheeping usually involves some sort of trust in the other other player, however temporary. Agreeing with someone's reasoning is just that.
I agree with BBT then.
Where? I don't remember any AtE. I just remember FB making his usual D1 troll posts.In post 253, PeregrineV wrote:Thoughts on OtherHeadIsScum use of Appeal to Emotion.-
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I'd call that pretty null for FB.In post 257, PeregrineV wrote:In post 255, Xkfyu wrote:
Where? I don't remember any AtE. I just remember FB making his usual D1 troll posts.In post 253, PeregrineV wrote:Thoughts on OtherHeadIsScum use of Appeal to Emotion.In post 239, PeregrineV wrote:
54 and 55In post 132, Maxous wrote:
can you give me an example?In post 129, PeregrineV wrote:
When I feel like it's tactical, it's scummy.In post 128, hebichan wrote:Okay, you ATE as town then. I guess that is more factually accurate. Regardless, I have personally mislynched you because of your ATEing.
When I feel like it's sincere, it can make people a townread.
However, it almost always feels tactical- like now.
i'm a bit confused by this
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regarding SC, I get why people are voting him but i'm not overly convinced. we'll see.
In order for it to have been tactical, like you said, there would need to be something to gain from it, and I'm not seeing how that's the case in those two posts.-
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Like I said, normal D1 trolling for FB.In post 259, PeregrineV wrote:And that's a secondary issue I don't know how to parse. For all of that, he takes it back to the realm of 60-
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Lol so it's suddenly rude to speak the truth all of a sudden?In post 262, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
You are rude.In post 261, Xkfyu wrote:
Like I said, normal D1 trolling for FB.In post 259, PeregrineV wrote:And that's a secondary issue I don't know how to parse. For all of that, he takes it back to the realm of 60
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The truth is neither good nor bad. The truth simply is.In post 264, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
The truth is often very rude.In post 263, Xkfyu wrote:Lol so it's suddenly rude to speak the truth all of a sudden?
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I don't get it. Was there a conclusion in all of that that I somehow missed?In post 267, KuroiXHF wrote:
This sounds scummy, but I like this line.In post 263, Xkfyu wrote:
Lol so it's suddenly rude to speak the truth all of a sudden?In post 262, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
You are rude.In post 261, Xkfyu wrote:
Like I said, normal D1 trolling for FB.In post 259, PeregrineV wrote:And that's a secondary issue I don't know how to parse. For all of that, he takes it back to the realm of 60
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Are you with SirCakez or something?
Or maybe I'm off. I see this as scummy because I'd probably say something similar to that. Then again, I play differently than everyone else.
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What's funny? I like to laugh too.In post 269, SirCakez wrote:lmao-
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Honestly, he has a point.In post 272, SirCakez wrote:Magna wants to PL me-
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It's really not.
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Well, this debate will never be settled, so let's move on.
Your top 2 town and scum reads please?-
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You think IPS is scum because of what you posted in post 34?In post 281, Maxous wrote:I would like to say more but honestly, too many of this game are very null to me here.
I think IPS or YAW are the most likely scum as of now.
As for town-reads, I like what BBT is doing. Vedith/FB hydra feels like town.
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@Cakez, what's your opinion on this:In post 252, TiphaineDeath wrote:@cakes #180 dude, you know why I am so tired right now. We can talk about it later, but yes, it is good enough xD.-
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Dare I ask?In post 289, SirCakez wrote:PV looks town (not his scum meta at all, and I don't think PV is one to adapt to his meta)
To hell with it. I just can't resist...
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So, you believe that PV is some Mafia playing automaton that doesn't deviate at all from his lurking ways when he is scum?
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As a matter of fact, I'm getting my reads together right now.In post 307, hebichan wrote:
You ever gonna post anything content related...In post 305, Xkfyu wrote:Lol ok fine.
I just can't do this with you right now. I knew I shouldn't have even asked.
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Ok so, I have town reads on BBT and MoI.
The way BBT questioned YAW's town read on him, and the way he continued to follow up on it makes me think he is town. Plus, post 162 is the kind of blatantly flippant post that I tend to town read.
I agree with his "willing to lynch" philosophy in respect to MoI in post 268, but even if I didn't, I'd still think it was coming more from a town mindset.
I am also leaning slightly town on Kuroi, based on our interaction earlier. It was weird. Almost too weird to have been faked.
My only real scum read is YAW right now, but I could see me supporting a Mollie lynch, for the ridiculous soft claim.
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For the record, I am more concerned about your reasoning for town reading BBT, than your defense of Cakez, though that certainly didn't help.In post 367, Young and Witless wrote:So the thing is.
My record at reading Cakez is abysmal. I've found that if I want to scumread him he's probably town, and if I want to townread him he's probably scum.
The problem being that even when I tried to apply this rule I still arrived at the wrong result.
So, like, I see why people don't like my reasoning. But maybe people (BBT, Xkfyu and TD in particular) can talk to me about their reads on Cakez instead of just calling mine fake.
I have actually had similar problems as you have in reading Cakez in the past. Eerily similar, in fact. That's why I don't really bother wasting my time trying to read him early on, and he usually stays in my "null/willing to lynch" pile, until I finally have to read him, or until I see something that completely convinces me of his alignment.
So, actually, having said that, yeah, I am more concerned about your town read on Cakez here, as I don't think anyone having such a similar outlook on Cakez as I do should be town reading him right now.-
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I'm not saying it's scummy to try. I'm saying it's scummy to force a town read, which is exactly what it looked like, especially considering the town read came after Cakez came under pressure.In post 408, Young and Witless wrote:So you're saying that people who have trouble reading Cakez shouldn't even attempt to read him early on, and it's scummy even to try?
And talk to me about BBT if you don't like that read. What's your read on him?
As for BBT, I've already stated that I have a town read on him and why, in post 332. So again, I feel like the reason is bogus. There isn't anything in post 143 that I don't think BBT would say as scum, and when he rightly questioned you on this, you just hand-waived it.-
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I agree with you about 380, but I disagree with you about 386. That one looked genuine to me.In post 420, Maverick1102 wrote:Why is Mollie still on Kuroi when it ended long ago? Seriously, there's newer things to comment on like the YaW wagon (which I kinda want to join but I really don't like Mollie's play more than I like the YaW wagon).
I don't like the amount of meta and half-baked faux-assertive stances in this game thus far. Trying to appeal her case as town by associating with someone who townreads her (#380) is just weak and looks like 'why me'. The fluff questions (and I shan't be letting this go, I'm very firm on this) were exactly that. Finding out how Kuroi organises his thoughts is bollocks, frankly and when you combine that with a weak link to meta that really says nothing much at all it looks very forced, like Mollie is trying to look like she's doing shit, which she ain't.
#386 looks like a forced attempt at playing into Townie Recklessness and I dislike how obtuse Mollie is being. It's like she's trying to be arrogantly tough to read, which to me just stands out as scum.
I'd really appreciate more people looking at and commenting on Mollie and Kuroi please. This and YaW ought to be the wagons today and I'm reasonably happy to see this through to completion today.
I came away from the Mollie vs Kuroi spat no better than I went in. Though, that's probably mostly because I didn't pay much attention to it. Neither side made very much sense to me.
Yeah, I still don't get the soft claim either, and really, I still don't like it, but I think I want to see where it leads. So, I don't think I'm interested in lynching her right now.In post 421, Maverick1102 wrote:Add to the above the softclaim earlier in the game and I really think we need to pressure this much further.
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What was wrong with it?In post 428, TiphaineDeath wrote:MAverick #420 is a terrible post, that is all, carry on.-
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Out of all the reasons to be convinced that YAW is scum, this is what sold you?In post 457, pirate mollie wrote:
yannoIn post 455, Young and Witless wrote:
Do you think I have any trouble coming up with reasons for reads as scum?In post 453, SirCakez wrote:You're asking why is flailing scummy?In post 454, pirate mollie wrote:
why does this sound like creature and not ssIn post 452, Young and Witless wrote:Maverick is probably town.
Why is this scummy?In post 437, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Because both heads town-read SC and both heads flailed when trying to explain their town read.
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I was just sheeping bbt cos I townread him and it sounded like a good idea at the time and I wasn't sure of what else to do cos this game has thrown up what might be a lot of false positives for me so I am trying to muddle my way through that but omg you really are scum aren't you-
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Ok...why?In post 482, pirate mollie wrote:why yes. yes it is.
What was it about that post that has you so convinced suddenly?-
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That's the second time you've mentioned that.In post 485, pirate mollie wrote:
it is cos I don't get the feeling that I am talking to ss. I feel like I am talking to creature.In post 483, Xkfyu wrote:
Ok...why?In post 482, pirate mollie wrote:why yes. yes it is.
What was it about that post that has you so convinced suddenly?
To be clear, you're just saying that you think SS is playing more like Creature, and therefore you're scum reading them?
You're not saying that you believe Creature is posting, but pretending to be SS, right?-
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Assuming that's actually what they are doing, and it works out for them, and we never catch on, what would they gain from it?In post 490, pirate mollie wrote:
why?In post 489, Xkfyu wrote:But to answer your question, I think that would be an absurd reason to scum read a hydra slot.-
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First off, yes, links please. I would like to see that, if for nothing more than entertainment value.In post 496, pirate mollie wrote:
no1 has actually said that but I can show you games where 1 hydra head pretended to be the other 1 and they turned out to be scumIn post 492, Xkfyu wrote:Like, show me one scenario in which that slot is caught as scum, and one of them says "Man, if only we had signed our posts backwards, we wouldn't be in this predicament."
Secondly, did they do it BECAUSE they were scum?
Because if they didn't, it can't be considered scum indicative.-
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I remember us talking about this exact thing in Math's Mafia.In post 501, Young and Witless wrote:For Xkfyu, I liked in 255 how he didn't back down from what he was saying despite his terminology being challenged, and I think the way he was trying to get reads out of people without caring how it makes him look reminds me of his towngame.
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In your opinion, is there much difference between being "self-conscious" and being "self-aware?"In post 504, TiphaineDeath wrote:Scum are much more often self-conscious than town.-
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You got something better?
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Why aren't you considering the possibility that there were already scum on your wagon, or at least already scum reading you?
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Fair enough.In post 544, SirCakez wrote:There probably were, but I don't see why 1 scum would avoid an easy wagon on me unless the entire scum team was already there or something. Which I doubt.-
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Oh the irony...In post 588, Young and Witless wrote:In post 586, SirCakez wrote:
What does this mean?In post 568, hebichan wrote:Yeah sure, I'll just take that fall for Cakez and YAW.Scum flailing.-
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Before that post, I had already talked about how I agreed with BBT's case against them.In post 593, farside22 wrote:Why is Yaw a scum read?-
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Well, he probably sucked.In post 593, farside22 wrote:the player i replaced makes me wish I didn't replace him. God I hate players like that on a personal level when they are town.-
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I don't get this. Can you explain what you didn't like about those posts?In post 658, Ankamius wrote:
These are the ones I'm weirded out by:In post 626, Young and Witless wrote:I'm leaning town on mollie (though I've never seen her scumgame, so I'm a bit paranoid).
What posts gave you a weird feeling?In post 589, Ankamius wrote:Wisdom feels slightly off to me too after I tried searching out the YAW case, but I don't think the weird feeling I got from his posts are worth pursuing unless they keep continuing as such.
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In post 527, Wisdom wrote:How is it different than any other kuroi approachIn post 603, Wisdom wrote:
you're not voting her thoughIn post 601, Maxous wrote:why are you confused that I would scum-read her for this?-
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Yeah, wisdom is town.In post 679, Wisdom wrote:
True;combined with the previous post, this is me essentially telling maxous to vote hebichan and stop voting YAW for awful reaaonsIn post 674, Ankamius wrote:Wisdom's final post has the same type of tone as the second one; it's a weird observation to point out since Maxous has been adamant in scumreading YAW, who he is already voting for.
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What was this sudden unvote about, Ank? It seemed kinda awkward.
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Did I really leave that little of an impression on you that you don't even include me in your read list?In post 585, farside22 wrote:I'm going to do this a bit different.
Mostly ask questions and put a list together.
Mollie: why is it scummy that Krio doesn't know how many games he's been scum?
Peregrine what are your current reads and why?
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Bbt tunneling seems off to me.
Mollies question to Kurio was out of the blue and I haven't seen her question others.
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That doesn't even make sense. Explain.In post 588, Young and Witless wrote:In post 586, SirCakez wrote:
What does this mean?In post 568, hebichan wrote:Yeah sure, I'll just take that fall for Cakez and YAW.Scum flailing.-
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You aren't the first person to mention this, but I don't agree.In post 627, farside22 wrote:As or YAW, I just see a guy trying to figure the game out.
I get the feeling that they are more concerned with defending themselves from the lynch than they are with solving the game.-
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If we lynch YAW and they flip scum, I would be much more concerned about those that were pivotal to starting the hebichan counter wagon.In post 650, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If we lynch YAW and they flip scum, you know you're getting lynched next, right?-
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I agree, which is why I believe they are more concerned with defending themselves than actual scum hunting.In post 712, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:YAW are doing surface level 'scum-hunting'. Asking general/busy questions (which they don't seem to care about the response to) and stating reads to make it look like they're doing stuff.