Doctor Who Mafia 2- GAME OVER!

[Roach]

/confirm Role PM retrieval.

I love 'Doctor Who'. But enough of that...

LET'S START!

Unvote

in case I'm voting for someone.

[Roach]

EBWOP

Alright, I did a quick read of the topic...

Nothing seems to jump at me more than Flameaxe's posts. There was even a swear in one. Sounds like SOMEone is defensive...

[Roach]

Flameaxe, do you think that your posts are contributing to the greater good of this game? If so, how?

Until you answer:

FoS: Flameaxe

for being a troll for the first, what, 9-10 pages?

[Roach]

Hahahahahahahahah swearing =! a 'fucking' scumtell. Shame on you for thinking that, at all.

You STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

Until you do...

Vote: Flameaxe

for avoiding the fact that he is a troll.

[Roach]

Weee....I obviously care. Metagame better.

Dude, ANSWER MY QUESTION.

[Roach]

Prove that my play in this game makes me scum, then I will answer.

Dude, you're bargaining here. *cough*SCUM-TELL!*cough*

The way you play (and I

dare you

to prove me wrong) in this game is different than the last game I played with you (remember Mafia 65, Pursuit of New Vinci?). In that game, you were active, analyzing, and very much a Townie.

Here, you're not. You're trolling, (possibly) lurking, and maybe even bashing players in this game.

Compare that to the other game. See a difference?

[Roach]

Roach wins.

QFT!

[Roach]

People change, buddy. I've done the same thing in all of my recent games. Also, 65 is ongoing, so shut the fuck up.(1)

My last post

wasn't bargaining at all(2)

, it

was a simple request for a better voting reason(3)

. All I see here is going after me

for small personal attacks(4)

. I would also like to say that I am doing neither of your other two reasons at all.

1) I know 65 is ongoing, BUT I was using it for comparison. Not to attack you.

2) Well, your previous post was asking something from me in return for doing something for me. That's bargaining.

3) Better voting reasons were given BEFORE I voted for you. (Remember my previous

FoS

on you?)

4) Personal attacks? Maybe. Small? No way. These are HUGE strikes against you, pal.

Anything else before someone follows my vote with another vote on you and we have a bandwagon started on ya?

[Roach]

DOUBLE POST

Just cause he has a PR doesn't mean that he shouldn't talk.

Well, if mcplatp has a PR, then shouldn't he be able to defend himself?

Yes, mc's play has been sparse and confusing, but at least he's playing, right? Therefore, shouldn't he be able to defend himself?

[Roach]

1) It's still ongoing, try reading rules. Still shut the fuck up.

2/3)

Your reasons were terribly flimsy. Voting for 'being a troll'?(1)

Come on now.

I know you suck, but you can at least try to make it seem like you don't(2)

.

4) Personal attacks are nothing more than that. Personal.

1) Flimsy they may be, but my reasons are true (somewhat).

2) ABR doesn't think I suck. Even

I

think I suck. But then again, once in a while I'm proved right.

[Roach]

Forgive me, BM, for referring to an ongoing game, but I needed evidence to support my post. Won't happen again.

[Roach]

Alright, I've been reading the past few pages, and needless to say, they're an interesting read, but Flameaxe is STILL the vulgar, obnoxious, idiotic, swearing troll he is. Therefore, I'm not unvoting.

I know Yamahako is also voting for Flameaxe, probably for the same reasons I am.

Flameaxe, now is the perfect time to stop being a troll and PLAY. Defend yourself. Have you been the good little boy you are and contributed your two cents? If so, are your two cents good for the town? If so, how are your two cents good for the town?

[Roach]

HERE I AM! DON'T PROD ME!

[Roach]

DOUBLE POST:

While I'm glad one of the mafia has been modkilled, I'm still concerned with Flameaxe's behavior in the game.

[Roach]

DOUBLE POST:

While I'm glad one of the mafia has been modkilled, I'm still concerned with Flameaxe's behavior in the game.

Did you notice we're starting a wagon on you? Or are you pretending not to?

Wagon? Why? Because of my behavior towards

that bloody troll

Flameaxe?

[Roach]

Alright...

WHY IS THERE A BANDWAGON ON ME?

That is my question to you.

[Roach]

And that means I am? Can't you tell I'm a different person?

[Roach]

And that means I am? Can't you tell I'm a different person?

Yes. No.

Fact is, you're an easy bandwagon. People are tired, they want to go to sleep. So, they try to lynch you.

O I C! Then let's lynch Flameaxe while we're at it!

Why am I an easy wagon?

[Roach]

Roach, a question, why should we just give you a clean slate after Aisar's bizarre behavior?

Because I'm different. New player = new slate. Simple as that.

Now, vollkan, my previous experience with you has not been a good one. You hammered me. Remember?

Now, I'm not going to be so low to say that you are scum...but then again...

[Roach]

Now, vollkan, my previous experience with you has not been a good one. You hammered me. Remember?

Yes, and you were the godfather. What's your point?

New game, new slate, new role. That's my point.

Now, I'm not going to be so low to say that you are scum...but then again...

No please do. That's exactly why I wanted to wagon you.

Do I sense a scum-tell?

Bold is response.

Feel free to misquote, but be warned that you will misquoted as well.

[Roach]

Well, cicero, Garnasha, and mcpaltp...

Sorry, I'm just really focused with getting Flameaxe lynched. I'm drawing blanks on those three.

[Roach]

Sorry, I've been working on a project.

[Roach]

And that means I am? Can't you tell I'm a different person?

you aren't. You replace Aisar, and if Aisar was scummy, you are scummy. are you stupid or scum? That new slate stuff continues on this, and you're basically trying to say:
look, I don't care if somebody else did something that indicates I'm scum, you can't hold me responsible for that.
While in fact you are responsible. We're not here to give replacements a new chance, we're here to lynch scum.
Trying to make town discard their record of people who played your role before you feels ever so scummy to me.


For failing to admit something as obvious as that, added to Aisar's behaviour,

vote: Roach

. You should be lynched, so I don't care anymore what the number of votes on you is, my vote is going there and staying there regardless of if it puts you on L-1 or hammer(didn't check whether one of those was the case) unless someone exceeds you in scumminess.

Obviously, you have NO idea of my play style. Yes, Aisar's play was scummy, but that doesn't mean I am scummy by default.

[Roach]

LISTEN! I am DIFFERENT. I play DIFFERENT.

Aisar claimed my character before I replaced him, yes? Therefore, I see no reason WHY I should be lynched, other than you

idiots

people who got this wagon on me are disillusioned. My play is DIFFERENT because now I'm here, meaning that people will start voting for me left and right, which is now bad because I will now:

CLAIM: Pete Tyler

. I'm just a

Vanilla Townie

trying to route out the scum.

My 'attack(s)' on Flameaxe was substantial because I was CITING HIS PLAY, unlike those voting for me who fail to cite mine.

So, please. Aisar claimed, now I will claim. See?

[Roach]

Roach, the fact that your playstyle is different doesn't mean your role isn't.

You keep insisting we shouldn't judge you by Aisar's play, as if the fact that your playstyle changed(1)

means your role changed. I think you are Slitheen.

My primary reason to suspect you is the fact that you don't want us to look at Aisar's play to learn what your role is(2)

.

That ain't playstyle, that's dumb(3)

.

imperfect info? I know just one pro-town role that can vote with perfect info. You make a null argument against the BW. You also are throwing around a lot of "just noting"s, which basically means you think someone is the case and want it known but don't want to be held responsible for it later.

1) I do, because the role doesn't matter, it's the PLAYER that has it that DOES matter. I'm not saying my role is different, I'm saying that

I

am different.

2) That's because I want you to look at

my

play instead of Aisar's. When a player is replacing another player, do you start a wagon on the new player right off the bat or do you wait and hope for the new player to slip-up?

3) Like you for voting for me because of my predecessor's play instead of my own? That's dumb, too. We're even now.

[Roach]

Roach, you're wrong. If a player does something scummy, that makes it more likely they are scum.

If they get replaced, that dosn't change the odds of them being scum(1)

, so

they're STILL more likely to be scum then if they hadn't done the scum tell in the first place(2)

.

1) Who? The player that got replaced or the replacer?

2) To me, each player starts off with a clean slate. That INCLUDES players that have replacements (or, more specifically, the replacements themselves). Is that wrong, so wrong that it warrants me a vote?

[Roach]

Roach, you're wrong. If a player does something scummy, that makes it more likely they are scum.

If they get replaced, that dosn't change the odds of them being scum(1)

, so

they're STILL more likely to be scum then if they hadn't done the scum tell in the first place(2)

.

1) Who? The player that got replaced or the replacer?

2) To me, each player starts off with a clean slate. That INCLUDES players that have replacements (or, more specifically, the replacements themselves). Is that wrong, so wrong that it warrants me a vote?

You make my brain hurt(1)

and I wish I thought you were scum.

Stop playing the victim(2)

. Your question 1 answer makes no sense. and

your number 2 is just plain wrong(3)

.

1) Well, that should be a sign that you should think more often. Anyway, sorry if I do.

2) Well, that's going to be hard, because I

am

the victim. Aisar's play was scummy, yes, and I'm ashamed that I'm replacing a complete ass. But his role (and therefore my role) is PRO-TOWN. And people are voting for

me

, not Aisar, because of

Aisar's

play, not

mine

.

3) Right now, when I read that comment, I try to stifle giggles. Why? There are a million different ways I can misquote your comment and make it into a bad joke.

[Roach]

2) To me, each player starts off with a clean slate. That INCLUDES players that have replacements (or, more specifically, the replacements themselves). Is that wrong, so wrong that it warrants me a vote?

Yes. This is VERY wrong.

But is it wrong enough to warrant a vote?

[Roach]

Aisar's gone now, we should get the suspicious vibes off of Roach.

^THIS is what I'm talking about. People are judging me on

Aisar's

play, not

my own

. That's BAD.

[Roach]

Before BM prods me, I want to post that I'm alive.

[Roach]

Roach, if you want to convince us you're pro-town, it beehoovs you to start acting in a way helpful to the town.

Such as getting Flameaxe lynched? Very well.

[Roach]

I'm not trolling. Get jo termz right, yo.

Who needs a PBPA when I can quote this?

[Roach]

HERE I AM! MOD DON'T PROD!

[Roach]

Alright.

Anyway, since I still seem to hold the majority of votes, I think I still have a good defense already posted when I first entered the game. If someone could do a PBPA on me, that would be win.

[Roach]

If someone could do a PBPA on me, that would be win.

Ugh? That would be the WIN? How?

It would be win because someone can bring up my first post of the game (and those thereafter) to find my defense.

[Roach]

Your defence is that you love Doctor Who?

Kind of, yes.

Actually, I think that I can find my defense on my own...

[Roach]

LISTEN! I am DIFFERENT. I play DIFFERENT.

Aisar claimed my character before I replaced him, yes? Therefore, I see no reason WHY I should be lynched, other than you

idiots

people who got this wagon on me are disillusioned. My play is DIFFERENT because now I'm here, meaning that people will start voting for me left and right, which is now bad because I will now:

CLAIM: Pete Tyler

. I'm just a

Vanilla Townie

trying to route out the scum.

My 'attack(s)' on Flameaxe was substantial because I was CITING HIS PLAY, unlike those voting for me who fail to cite mine.

So, please. Aisar claimed, now I will claim. See?

Nevermind, 'ere it is.

[Roach]

Righto then. Movin' on.

[Roach]

Sorry for not posting. Will do meta-check soon...

[Roach]

BAH! I'll do a meta on this game soon...

[Roach]

I'll have my thoughts up soon, just hang in there...

[Roach]

/confirm prod.