Street Fighter Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Dunnstral]

Okay so maybe ranger antihero?

This doesn't even make sense

like how did you get there

[Dunnstral]

So now either Ranger was buddying up to me as scum and BOTH scum were on her and she's mafia with dwlee

or Zakk and Suzune are scum

I'm going to choose to believe that Antihero is town on the basis of his role and how it fits in vs scum roles

This still applies for me, I didn't say it because of the guilty stuff

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UNVOTE:

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So is that somehow acceptable for you. Yes, I think we should just kill the masons. You know as well as I do that if one mason falls the other will to. So that is something you are willing to gamble on. Do not be silly we had a double kill last night we need to get it right today we do not have time to play around.

Zakk claimed a guilty on me

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If you get lynched and you are town then the town will lynch Zakk and I. One of us would die and the other would follow during the night, thus allowing the town to lose the game I believe. So you are gambling on the entire fate of the town.

I'm not the one who claimed a guilty result

[Dunnstral]

If you get lynched and you are town then the town will lynch Zakk and I. One of us would die and the other would follow during the night, thus allowing the town to lose the game I believe. So you are gambling on the entire fate of the town.

I'm not the one who claimed a guilty result

Yes but you are the one willing to gamble it all on you being correct.

I unvoted, didn't I?

why are you stuck up on that?

[Dunnstral]

Why does anti have to be scum?

Why can't ranger be scum?

[Dunnstral]

p-edit, because it was obnoxious that you would gamble the game on you being right.

I don't recall doing that?

I unvoted myself shortly after voting.

[Dunnstral]

I read your stuff....

Think I need to hear from other people

You insisting I was in the wrong and gambling when your buddy claimed a guilty on me is so off by the way

[Dunnstral]

We've potentially got quiet a few confirmed towns actually

if there were mafia traitor anti would be... an odd night pt checker when there's a neighborizer and a mafia traitor

Like that role is super watered down

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Does masons even make sense with the rest of the setup

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Does masons even make sense with the rest of the setup

Do not set up spec like that. I did the same thing with heat. It is silly to do it again.

It also makes the most sense for the mafia to have someone who can find private topics with so many private topics in this game. The town clearly was supposed to use the hoods to solve the game and if the mafia could safely find them, then they could destroy the towns line of attack.

[Dunnstral]

masonry would've given a false positive to anti's role too

hmm

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Why didn't you do that work in the masonry so suzune could see it

[Dunnstral]

and it's daytime. lol

wasn't it implied you had day talk?

[Dunnstral]

nvm I read the rest

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Dunn has flipped flopped all over and ended up only responding to posts that were about Zakk and I being scum and not commenting on any of mine directly. Which is kind of frustrating because I felt like I was making good points and they just backed off.

No I didn't

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They were out of options tho. Dwlee or Luna. If they killed Dwlee instead today would be FIVE times harder

If I'm town what scum team combinations are possible?

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Almost50 dying also really fucked over scum

Which was probably why that was the first thing Dunn commented on at daybreak.

Really? Is that why I said:

A50 should hide behind people he thinks will die.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Suzune

I'm not actually willing to believe the masons are real if they're going to try to direct the lynch from Ranger to me

especially Suzune who scumreads me every game without real reasons; I doubt she'd be doing this again especially when in a masonry to talk about it

[Dunnstral]

Not gonna let Suzune just get away with randomly scumreadng me every game either

Only reason she's alive is because of zakk

Ranger doesn't seem liek scum and anti's claim is believable and so nos is probably town too - the "masons" are mafia

[Dunnstral]

If ranger or dunn flips town antihero is confirmed scum unless the masons are scum

I think me and Ranger are both town.

[Dunnstral]

Plus I did not lynch you or turn against you in the first game we played together.

You scanned me? Which was pretty much a lynch in that setup

Whatever though - I don't understand why you'd be pushing me over Ranger as town

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

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I'm willing to lynch outside of the mason pair on the condition that if town is killed we get the masons the next day

I actually think that's optimal

[Dunnstral]

I know

But the "masons" are together and are either both town or both mafia, so it does not make sense to lynch them today when a scum flip elsewhere would clear them

So I'm willing to lynch elsewhere if we get the "masons" tomorrow if he hit town.

[Dunnstral]

I'm considering it.

On the condition that if she flips town we lynch the mason claims tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

Do you disagree?

[Dunnstral]

If ranger flips town I will consider anti

No

If Ranger flips town the masons are lynched

[Dunnstral]

If ranger flips town I will consider anti

No

If Ranger flips town the masons are lynched

That's never gonna happen while I'm alive


(kek)

ok then

VOTE: zakk

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You keep saying it's less likely to be ranger but don't actually have any thoughts on who the mafia is if ranger is town

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dwlee

[Dunnstral]

I think it's dwlee if the masons are town because I'm townreading Ranger.

If dwlee is mafia I think he's with one of nos/anti which is bizarre, probably nos

[Dunnstral]

Actually

Anti could have known that beebot was in a neighborhood because there was a spy.

It is very possible that he is fake claiming

VOTE: antihero

[Dunnstral]

which is bizarre

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Dwlee explain how Nosferatu can be scum with anyone other than anti when anti has an inno on him

oh yea.. godfather?

explain how Nosferatu can be scum with anyone other than anti when anti has an inno on him

traitors don't have private topics

ergo a traitor would be a functional godfather to a private topic detector

fuck, dwlee, even nosferatu mentions this possibility

get your head out of your ass.

i was using dunnstral's post against him lol

[Dunnstral]

i was using dunnstral's post against him lol

[Dunnstral]

IF Dunn flips town it's ranger/Nos

Why nos but not anti?

[Dunnstral]

And when I flip town, what is the scum team?

[Dunnstral]

You realize that if Ranger is town and I'm town, and you're town, lynching me loses the game?

[Dunnstral]

If dunn is town anti is confirmed scum cause it cant be nosferatu and ranger

Why can't it be zakk and suzune?

[Dunnstral]

asking dwlee

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I think the mason claim might be legit too

We should get anti instead of tunneling on me for reasons like "it can't be those other guys"

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I like it. I'm townreading the masons, townreading ranger, and might even be townreading dwlee. I think the scum team is antihero and nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

dunn/ranger would just be like "oh but the masons aren't town because they wanted to lynch antihero" and it'll be one of us dead tomorrow too

Why? You think if me and ranger are mafia dwlee votes with us?

[Dunnstral]

dunn/ranger, instead of being like "yo the masons are scum" now have to be like "yo it's BOTH anti/nos" (which is extreeeeemely unlikely)

I mean

If both Ranger and I are town, you lose the game by voting me.

If both Ranger and I are scum, you would win after an Anti town flip

I don't see why you'd want to vote me

[Dunnstral]

I'd still rather lynch anti over nos

but right now that's my scum team

[Dunnstral]

Because anti can be mafia with nos town?

And I think his claim is kind of a cc to yours, and it makes sense to lynch there first

[Dunnstral]

I do not think a traitor would be likely on the other hand, just based on all the other things anti would have if town (neighborizer, masons)

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: ranger
?

Are you willing to lynch the masons if she flips town?

[Dunnstral]

So lynch the guy who won't respond?

[Dunnstral]

that should have been directed at Dunn

...I don't see anything there that could be directed at me

[Dunnstral]

What are your thoughts on antihero?

You don't care about his potential fake claim?

[Dunnstral]

So if nos is scum his plan is to lynch me then lynch the masons

[Dunnstral]

ok if masons are real town loses

I see zakk doesn't want to consider anything else

VOTE: zakk

[Dunnstral]

so why can't we lynch anti

His role doesn't make much sense if masons are town

I think it's anti nos

VOTE: antihero

[Dunnstral]

Show me any scum hunting you've done all game

Why are you ignoring me scum hunting Titus?

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VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

VOTE: Titus

VOTE: Titus

willing to ignore beeboy's scum line

yeah let's sheep dwlee

VOTE: Nos

VOTE: Titus

VOTE: Nosferatu

VOTE: Titus

Titus if you're town I have no idea why you'd be tunneled on me like this. Some explanation?

Otherwise

VOTE: Titus

@Dwlee are you really questioning my vote on you? Look at your past 10 or so posts

VOTE: Titus

Everyone is scumreading her but nobody wants to vote her.

VOTE: Titus

VOTE: Dunnstral
Fuck it.

As someone who just saw scum-ranger lurk through the entirety of Bloodborne Mafia,
VOTE: Ranger

VOTE: Titus
Is this still happening
I skipped the last 5 pages

Hahaha get wrecked scum

Nero's so confbiased it's hilarious

Comin' for you next, cutie.

I got you, didn't I?
How many buddies do you have left?

This guy isn't town either

What do you think of PeregrineV?

VOTE: Varsoon

VOTE: Varsoon

Even if Antihero is lying varsoon is still survivor so I don't see why we wouldn't lynch varsoon today.

If varsoon flips survivor it's safe to assume antihero lied (survivor would claim to be in neighborhood and not lie to avoid getting lynched - after all that's their win condition) lynch antihero the next day.

reminder that antihero can claim a guilty on a scum buddy

I know

Varsoon was seemingly going down anyway and anti waited for an opportunistic time to out said information

VOTE: Antihero

VOTE: Nosferatu

We can continue to tinfoil about antihero in the meantime

actually that's probably a bad idea

VOTE: Nosferatu

I've obviously omitted a ton of other votes

You're really ignoring the fact that for me to be mafia I'd have been bussing

3

mafia this game
With Titus and peregrine being hard busses

And you act like you voting titus after titus was hammered is the reason she got lynched

All you've done this game is claim mason and coast on your claim

[Dunnstral]

2 actually seeing as I'm not scum

wasn't including you in the 3

Just included you and anti to show what I've been pushing

[Dunnstral]

strong townleans: Ranger, beeboy, almost50, antihero, and (weak-ish) Titus
nulltown: Sircakez, The way it ends, Drippinggoofball
Null: Varsoon, TiphaineDeath, Prophylaxis, Heat, Fire Assaain, Nero Cain
nullscum: Brian Hollywood, Kappy, Suzune, nosferatu
mafia goon: Dwlee99

And peregrine needs to be replaced? or did I miss it

Titus are you serious?

I've voted: Beeboy, Dwlee, Fire assassin, and displayed suspicion at suzune but somehow I'm trying to play things safe

Titus what are you even talking about

VOTE: Titus

Not for the memes, that second part is nothing and you know it

I think Titus is mafia.

What were your reads again?

Beeboy, titus, sircakez, dgb town reads.
Nero, Nosf scum reads
Super undecided on you
Varying levels of "I dont even know" to "I think they

might

be ___" on everyone else

that's lame

Yeah I'm less inclined to believe dwlee is mafia

And more inclined to believe Titus is mafia because I can't see her town motive especially at points directed to me.

I want Titus shot but not for the memes, she's pushing stuff from a scum mindset.

Suzune isn't an acceptable vig shot

VOTE: Titus

willing to ignore beeboy's scum line

If Titus is town, Nero is mafia instead

That's not what I said.

I only said if Titus is town, you're very likely mafia instead

Though I believe that Titus is mafia first and foremost

All of Titus, Dunn and Almost still need death though.

Because in this list, I'm town and believe that a50 is town.

Also that dumb theory post you linked looks like something scum remembers and links, not something town remembers

Yeah uh Nos is mafia

Titus tomorrow please

beeboy is town

Let's get Nosferatu and Titus

Sir cakez can you get in line and vote nos please

Because I want to get Nosferatu

And Titus

VOTE: Titus

Are you serious saying I'm scum with Titus?

Why don't you vote here? Everyone seems to want her dead but I'm here alone voting her

I'll gladly be shot if we can just get Titus

a50 might be town and is a dumb lynch right now

beeboy, thoughts on titus?

VOTE: Titus

I mean, Titus wasn't even on my wagon of 8. Come on. I was an easy lynch and she sure could've finished it if she wanted to.

dumblogic

Titus if you're town I have no idea why you'd be tunneled on me like this. Some explanation?

Otherwise

VOTE: Titus

@Dwlee are you really questioning my vote on you? Look at your past 10 or so posts

My bad, didn't realize we were in multiball.

Regardless, seems we agree that Titus is scum so don't act like I have cooties and come vote with me

YOU DIDN'T DO MUCH OF ANYTHING AT ALL

That's why I voted you.......

The sheeping part wasn't serious, by the way but Titus latched on in a way that indicates she's a scumrobot

I'm not voting you right now

Thoughts on Titus?

Because her push on me is dumb.

Your lyncher theory is just flat out wrong by the way because the reason I started pushing Titus in the first place was BECAUSE of dumb read/vote on me

Which I still believe, and she won't explain her read and just tries to push it.

So why haven't you voted Titus when I was trying to get that going?

Why do you have to solo vote TheWayItEnds (who obviously isn't getting lynched)

Don't disolve the Titus wagon

So in summary, there were a bunch of wagons, but then they dissipated and congregated on Ranger?

no. The two wagons were Titus and PV and then I had a little 3 man bandwagon then we had a sudden Ranger wagon that got to l2 in like >1 hour

Yeah seriously, Ranger is L-2???? For "lurking" meanwhile the PV wagon never took off

Titus still top scum, Ranger is a horrible lynch pushed by scum to get off of Titus/PV

For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?

Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.

I didn't. You pushed a mislynch hard.

We are lynching PV and then I'm getting all of Titus, TD Varsoon and Cakes lynched.

Sounds good

beeboy vote Titus??????????????????????????????

I don't understand why we can't get Titus

People are intentionally avoiding voting her

Ignoring this thread for 24 hours. Like damn vigging your buddy is ballsy Nero.

There's no way Titus is town.

^scum with titus

Actually I might just want to get Titus

Titus tomorrow

Why would I...?

I want to get Titus but am willing to get SirCakez

VOTE: Titus

Figuring this out is giving me a headache >.<

Anyone got any ideas?

We can stick with Titus or lynch Cake for that reaction

Or lynch Zakk for that reaction and lol voting me

Gonna assume Nero has a reason to think there's a third party scum

Also I was not, in fact, a lyncher on Titus so there's that

The fact that Titus had nothing to say about me makes me strongly believe she's mafia, actually

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So in summary, there were a bunch of wagons, but then they dissipated and congregated on Ranger?

no. The two wagons were Titus and PV and then I had a little 3 man bandwagon then we had a sudden Ranger wagon that got to l2 in like >1 hour

Yeah seriously, Ranger is L-2???? For "lurking" meanwhile the PV wagon never took off

Titus still top scum, Ranger is a horrible lynch pushed by scum to get off of Titus/PV

For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?

Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.

I didn't. You pushed a mislynch hard.

We are lynching PV and then I'm getting all of Titus, TD Varsoon and Cakes lynched.

Sounds good

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

Clearly you were on and off the Titus wagon multiple times

I was on titus, varsoon, and peregrinev

Yet you act like I've done nothing all game

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

Show me who dunnstral convinced to lynch anyone

Nobody

He's just been being a floater / active lurker the entire time

Really? When the votes switched off of pv/Titus onto Ranger I hard defended Ranger and tried to get it back onto Titus

PV was then shot and flipped scum

Then I was finally able to get like 6 other people to vote Titus

[Dunnstral]

Titus if you're town I have no idea why you'd be tunneled on me like this. Some explanation?

Otherwise

VOTE: Titus

@Dwlee are you really questioning my vote on you? Look at your past 10 or so posts

She's tunneling on you 'cause she's mafia and knows you are the scum not on her faction.

My bad, didn't realize we were in multiball.

Regardless, seems we agree that Titus is scum so don't act like I have cooties and come vote with me

nty

how many games have you played on this site?

I'm not voting you right now

Thoughts on Titus?

She can be scum because she has a track record of being shit at reading me yet declared I was town. She might be playing into a huge weakness she knows I have as town.

VOTE: titus
yea this makes sense

Why Ranger

Nah I don't want Ranger

I still think that Dunn referring to the scum team as MAFIA is a 3p tell

Uh
No

I sorta have suspicions that Dunn is a lyncher that needs to lynch Titus and Thus Titus is pushing back and tunneling on him. Part of me doesn't care but I'd like to keep Dunn from winning b/c fuck that guy

LOL are you serious

I'm not a lyncher
And even if I was so what anyway right

@dunn

*shrugz*

maybe so.

I mean all I know is she voted Jackrito.I also remember something about her calling your votes pattern bad. Then you voted her and referred to her as MAFIA (like you were hunting the mafia team)

There was no second kill last night so either its singleball or the other kill was blocked or something. I think 3rd parties are often BP so I wonder if her team shot at you, you didn't die and that's why she's so convinced you are scum. She has countered my argument with "no way scum would shoot Dunn/Jackrito over DGB" I feel like her pushing/tunneling you but just real lightly and she's kinda hanging out in the shadows means she's prob group scum.

and then there was

I'll gladly be shot if we can just get Titus

wich is what gave me the lyncherish feel.

@Nero:

Maybe I will, but -for now- I want a Nos lynch more, bc he's the more active one of the scum duo (scum duo refers to the "two of them", NOT the whole scum team. In other words, I think they're both scum, so I'm going for the more active thus more dangerous of them.)

@Titus:

Deal (on the VC analysis thing). Dunn is town though.

Why is Dunn town? He jumps from sheeping to voting on a dime. His votes seem largely reactive and pushing on terrible wagons?

@Nero, Stop lying. Ty. I am pretty active here.

VOTE: Dunnstral
Fuck it.

reading this thread

is like wading in a pool full of diarrhea

[Dunnstral]

This is easily verifiable, so I don't think Anti woulf fake it.

VOTE: Varsoon

@Nero:

Shooting Varsoon now seems like a good idea. He flips, anti gets confirmed, and we have the rest of the day to get another lynch.

Here's a post they remember which makes Dunn seem town

I don't understand; I see a50 voting varsoon and talking to nero?

[Dunnstral]

She was the counter wagon to two mafia.

I was scum with her in stack the deck (albeit the traitor) and she is not playing similar here as she did there

I'm townreading her. It does not make much sense for her to be mafia

[Dunnstral]

Anti or nosferatu

I feel like the masons are town

Ranger is town

Dwlee is maybe but you guys won't lynch him

most likely is nosferatu/antihero

at least one of them

and then maybe I'm wrong on ranger

or maybe it's just dwlee

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: jackrito

God damn re-reading the entire game thread can be a bitch...but I think I have enough confidence to go off of what I believe has stuck out to me.

VOTE: Brian Hollywood

*shrugs*

Kappy is on VLA so I am not going to get anything by wagoning him.

You have been on my radar since the SoulEaterQueen post. I know Soul was replaced which is why I'm keeping Anti-Hero on my radar. However, with everyone wanting to be "opportunistic" about hopping on my wagon bc of a couple bad posts, which I'll admit were soley based off of RVS but given my current predicament, I think it's safe to say we're far beyond that..but this just seemed downright careless to me.

Ranger we are wagoning Brian Hollywood would you like to join us?

Another prime example of carelessness. Boy are we feeling confident today. The scum meter is just getting higher and higher.

Dunnstral slot is probably town.
DGB, Titus and Heat are all town.

Brian Hollywood and Kappy are scum.

No, I am town, but thanks for pushing your scum meter higher and higher...

I see you guys are having trouble complining a propper reads list. Here let me help you with that.

town

05 Nero Cain
04 Ranger
20 Varsoon
16 Antihero
17 Prophylaxis
18 Heat
09 TiphaineDeath
13 TheWayItEnds

weak town

07 Nosferatu*
11 DrippingGoofball

null

14 Kappy
15 PeregrineV
02 SirCakez
03 beeboy

scum

06 Fire Assassin
12 Brian Hollywood*
19 Dunnstral
08 Suzune
10 Dwlee99*
21 Titus
01 Almost50

Funny how you put yourself at the top of the list. I would say this is "off" to me, but then again it's you, therefore I'm simply keeping you on my potential scum watch list for now.

After going through everything, I'm feeling pretty confident that you are scum, beeboy. My scum meter is just too much in the red not to ignore it.

UNVOTE: Anti-Hero

VOTE: beeboy

Anti-Hero, don't think you're off the hook because when beeboy comes back as scum, I'm immediately voting for you next. You all saw it right here. So don't be surprised, if I even make it through this first day to be honest, when I instantly put my vote on hero. My RVS is over...you all were looking for my thoughts....there they are.

Carelessness and scum reading you is scummy?? This looks like grasping for straws here.

VOTE: brian

nosferatu do something ffs
VOTE: nosferatu

I have. I've let you know that both dunnstral and brian are both scum. PV could also possible scum.

VOTE: beeboy
you guys already know

Part of me wants to believe that there is no neighborizer and heat is just scum with beeboy.

UNVOTE:

I would have bought it
I don't think Heat's admittance of neighborizing Beeboy is AI tho

why would scum allow a tracker to live?

im back!

Vote: Sir Cakez

aside from the shit reads why?

@Nos:

He was.. before the stunt Nero did unvoting then revoting me on the next post.

I feel this is dragging too much, so I'll change the strategy >> FULL CLAIM

I'm a COWARDLY HIDER. I can hide behind town aligned players but not behind scum players. I announced my target (FIRE) last night and IF a vig existed and they shot at me then Fire IS town.

Now I can no longer announce my targets beforehand or I'd be shot WITH my target if they're town, meaning I'm rendered as useless a VT.

NOTE: I'm TOWN ALIGNED, not 3rd party!

why does this make dunn conf town but not fire like you said earlier

Also hiders die when they're shot? Your role is more like a pseudo bodyguard or something?

VOTE: A50

whatever.
UNVOTE: A50
VOTE: PV

VOTE: zakk

have we considered that perhaps there's a scum rolestopper and strongarm duo who both targeted TD? Because quite frankly, it's strange that no one hassuggested this, especially seeing how targeting TD shouldn't be the reason A50's claim is sketchy to people. The weird bit is the fact that a hider would exist period without a vig to target him to actually make him an effective role. This peculiarity is exacerbated by the fact that he claimed to be a "cowardly" hider, and that he wouldn't make it to anyone who was scum, removing the weak cop aspect of the role. The role is completely useless under the current specifics of it that he's given to us.

VOTE: A50

pedit: can we just stop all this soft claiming shit and mass claim?

I'll actually never trust a claim again if masons are scum

VOTE: dunn

Like I get called out for doing nothing and look at what Nos has been pushing this game

I don't think those were serious pushes on pv either, just vote plops when convenient

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: nosferatu

If ranger is town it's also convenient for mafia to be trying to get a mason killed today

[Dunnstral]

Day 2, Vote Count #18

Current Vote Count:

(4)

Almost50 -- Heat, PeregrineV, TiphaineDeath, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(2)

beeboy -- Fire Assassin, Ranger

(0)

Ranger

(0)

Nero Cain

(0)

Fire Assassin

(3)

Nosferatu -- Varsoon, Almost50, SirCakez

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Dunnstral

(1)

TheWayItEnds -- Suzune

(0)

Kappy

(3)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Nero Cain, beeboy

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Titus

(0)

Varsoon

(0)

Titus

Not Voting:

Kappy, Prophylaxis, Dwlee99

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

Here's where they were voting pv

[Dunnstral]

So I mean

Who is the better busser here?

Show me who dunnstral convinced to lynch anyone

Nobody

He's just been being a floater / active lurker the entire time

He plays like petapan as scum

He plays like me as scum

Trust me I know how it works

You make everyone doubt themselves but have no clear direction you're pushing OTHERS in, even though you make sure your vote history is pretty clean

Soooo here's the scoop

I'm not 100% on dunnstral and I'll never be

But this game could last forever so

If antihero gets back and has nothing amazing to say

Dunnstral is swinging

And that's that



Sorry not sorry

Like this stuff you're pushing me for is not true? And is better said about pretty much everyone else in lylo besides me

If nosferatu is mafia, do you think I could also be mafia? I'd have to be bussing

4

mafia in that case

Even your read here where I'd have to be bussing 3 mafia and pushed mafia all game long is tinfoily

[Dunnstral]

Dunn

If you want to vote for anti or nos

Then why was your vote just on me a few minutes ago

Because I can barely believe that you can be scumreading me at this point

And the way you were tunneled on me you probably didn't deserve to win if town anyways

Like I'd have to bank on masons being mafia even though it's not my first choice otherwise town just loses when they lynch me (almost certain a mason gets lynched if I flip town, especially if Ranger is town)

[Dunnstral]

(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger,

Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon

, Almost50
2 flipped scum
6 flipped town
3 unknown
le sigh

[Dunnstral]

I'm back on page 7- and kind of short on time.

Is there a Brian case?

I'm back on page 7- and kind of short on time.

Is there a Brian case?

iso him he has like 6 posts

I'm back on page 7- and kind of short on time.

Is there a Brian case?

iso him he has like 6 posts

I did, but I agree with the beeboy read, and I like him as a player, and there is 9 days left. If there's a actual case, I'd like to read it.

VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

what are you doing with your vote

VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

I want a Brian flip even more now bc this vote is gross

I am like, almost willing to vote and/or hammer brian because of how bad that switch was by dunn xD

Are you guys serious?

Peregrine is mafia, Brian is town, Peregrine has a dumb tmi read on Brian and his argument of "I just don't see it, anyone got a case?" Isn't helping

VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

I want a Brian flip even more now bc this vote is gross

That vote gave me dry heaves.

VOTE: PeregrineV

ok Brian's town Peregrine mafia

I want a Brian flip even more now bc this vote is gross

That vote gave me dry heaves.

Really guys? Lol

Just waiting for Brian to flip town and Peregrine to flip mafia

Lol scratch everything I said I wasn't thinking

Preflip associations (don't crucify me) makes me think Dunn and bh are scum and pv is town BUT it's pre flip so don't mind meee

[Dunnstral]

I'm back on page 7- and kind of short on time.

Is there a Brian case?

iso him he has like 6 posts

I did, but I agree with the beeboy read, and I like him as a player, and there is 9 days left. If there's a actual case, I'd like to read it.

Waiting for Brian Hollywood to catch up. I feel pretty good about the people on his wagon, to be fair.

dwlee and Nero Cain feels vaguely town on town to me.

this post is actually real bad.

If you think it's bad, then why are you not voting me for it?

hey,
why don't you walk me through your dwlee townread?
(and TD, do that one too)

there is 9 days left.

going up to deadline for the sake of "taking all the time" is a scourge on modern site meta

(2) beeboy -- PeregrineV, Brian Hollywood
(1) Nero Cain -- Dwlee99
(3) Fire Assassin -- Titus, Almost50, TiphaineDeath

Nosferatu and anti were both active and both completely ignored what was going on regarding me and pv and brian

[Dunnstral]

(11) Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger,

Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon

, Almost50
2 flipped scum
6 flipped town
3 unknown
le sigh

Idk.. it is possible ?

I see it more likely that there is a gap somewhere there, like

Ranger, Antihero

,

Nosferatu

,

Titus, Varsoon

I mean, do you think there's a gap just for the sake of there being a gap

I'm going to go back and look at what actually happened

[Dunnstral]

Day 1, Vote Count #14

Current Vote Count:

(0)

Almost50

(0)

SirCakez

(2)

beeboy -- PeregrineV, Brian Hollywood

(0)

Ranger

(1)

Nero Cain -- Dwlee99

(3)

Fire Assassin -- Titus, Almost50, TiphaineDeath

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Nero Cain

(0)

DrippingGoofball

(8)

Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

Kappy

(1)

PeregrineV -- Dunnstral

(0)

Antihero

(1)

Prophylaxis -- Varsoon

(0)

Heat

(0)

Dunnstral

(0)

Varsoon

(1)

Titus -- Fire Assassin

Not Voting:

TheWayItEnds, Kappy, Suzune

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

SirCakez is V/LA until July 4th.
Kappy is V/LA until July 5th.

Day 1 Will End on Thursday, July 7th, at 9 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-07 21:00:00)

Day 1, Final Vote Count:

(0)

Almost50

(0)

SirCakez

(2)

beeboy -- PeregrineV, Brian Hollywood

(0)

Ranger

(0)

Nero Cain

(1)

Fire Assassin -- TiphaineDeath

(1)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Nero Cain

(0)

DrippingGoofball

(11)

Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon, Almost50

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

Kappy

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(0)

Dunnstral

(0)

Varsoon

(2)

Titus -- Fire Assassin, Dunnstral

Not Voting:

TheWayItEnds, Kappy, Suzune

With 21 votes available, it took 11 votes to hammer.

VOTE: Brian Hollywood

I feel like the memes make it impossible for me to engage Titus here.
I mean, it does cure the walls on walls on walls that happen but
ugh

Also, is it just me, or were the last 10 pages just a bunch of readslists?
I just
I can't
whatever.

VOTE: Brian
I don't even want this lynch.
L-1, Claim and stuff.

VOTE: brian

yep this can be a corpse now

God damn re-reading the entire game thread can be a bitch...but I think I have enough confidence to go off of what I believe has stuck out to me.

VOTE: Brian Hollywood

*shrugs*

Kappy is on VLA so I am not going to get anything by wagoning him.

You have been on my radar since the SoulEaterQueen post. I know Soul was replaced which is why I'm keeping Anti-Hero on my radar. However, with everyone wanting to be "opportunistic" about hopping on my wagon bc of a couple bad posts, which I'll admit were soley based off of RVS but given my current predicament, I think it's safe to say we're far beyond that..but this just seemed downright careless to me.

Ranger we are wagoning Brian Hollywood would you like to join us?

Another prime example of carelessness. Boy are we feeling confident today. The scum meter is just getting higher and higher.

Dunnstral slot is probably town.
DGB, Titus and Heat are all town.

Brian Hollywood and Kappy are scum.

No, I am town, but thanks for pushing your scum meter higher and higher...

I see you guys are having trouble complining a propper reads list. Here let me help you with that.

town

05 Nero Cain
04 Ranger
20 Varsoon
16 Antihero
17 Prophylaxis
18 Heat
09 TiphaineDeath
13 TheWayItEnds

weak town

07 Nosferatu*
11 DrippingGoofball

null

14 Kappy
15 PeregrineV
02 SirCakez
03 beeboy

scum

06 Fire Assassin
12 Brian Hollywood*
19 Dunnstral
08 Suzune
10 Dwlee99*
21 Titus
01 Almost50

Funny how you put yourself at the top of the list. I would say this is "off" to me, but then again it's you, therefore I'm simply keeping you on my potential scum watch list for now.

After going through everything, I'm feeling pretty confident that you are scum, beeboy. My scum meter is just too much in the red not to ignore it.

UNVOTE: Anti-Hero

VOTE: beeboy

Anti-Hero, don't think you're off the hook because when beeboy comes back as scum, I'm immediately voting for you next. You all saw it right here. So don't be surprised, if I even make it through this first day to be honest, when I instantly put my vote on hero. My RVS is over...you all were looking for my thoughts....there they are.

Carelessness and scum reading you is scummy?? This looks like grasping for straws here.

VOTE: brian

[Dunnstral]

cause I dont think 4/5 scum vote in a row lol

Why not?

Hey, remember puppy mafia?

Vote Count 2.09

Thestatusquo -
[L-1]Dunnstral - [5]

Thestatusquo

, Gendaberry, Trivium,

Firebringer, Titus

Firebringer -
Heat -
DeathRowKitty - [1] Dunnstral
beeboy -
Titus -
Trivium - [3] Heat, duppin, DeathRowKitty
Gendaberry - [1] Beeboy
duppin -

Not voting -

With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

Mod Notes:
Duppin V/LA through the weekend.

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2016-05-27 17:11:05)

Titus was mafia, the entire scum team was on me, they all joined the wagon at the end

The difference is that they had tsq to lead the charge

[Dunnstral]

the difference here is that anti/nos couldn't push a read to save their lives and instead it's a large game and there's even more mafia piling on at the end

and pv is off-wagon scum

[Dunnstral]

And?

Why does "in a row" mean anything when the votes are seperated by over 100 posts

Because you think the formatting looks weird? You think scum have to be spread out more?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Antihero

I think most likely is that they're just both scum

[Dunnstral]

that is 2 out of 3 voting in a row. This would be 4 out of 5.

I think scum have to be spread out more

This argument is a lot weaker than you think it is

[Dunnstral]

the reason for me wanting to not lynch a mason is because scum will kill antihero if we don't, because it gives them the highest probability of winning.

But you

did

want to lynch the masons earlier, so...?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

Did you read all the stuff I quoted from my iso?

Did you ever read anything I was writing back then?

[Dunnstral]

I am pretty much also betting the game that antihero is town

So if anti is town, we're both town, and you're town ranger, who's scum out of Dunn/Dwlee/nos?

Nos himself said the traitor thing too.
You are putting your fingers in your ears and being like "lalalala I can't hear you nos and anti are conftown" but they aren't and you writing that off because you supposedly think I'm scum is dumb

You and Dunn should both LEGITIMATELY suspect each other if EITHER of you are town.

The fact that neither of you do suspect each other is hella bad, and by default, scummy.


Why do you not suspect nos, ranger?
3 reasons pls

Please respond to the points I've made against me being mafia.

[Dunnstral]

Dwlee, can you at least respond to the stuff I pointed out? Do you think that makes me less likely scum?


What do you think of Zakk's continued pushing without acknowledging it?

[Dunnstral]

Am i getting buddied

me right now

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Dwlee, can you at least respond to the stuff I pointed out? Do you think that makes me less likely scum?


What do you think of Zakk's continued pushing without acknowledging it?

does it look like I'm pushing you as part of my scum team? What do you think that means regarding whether or not I think you are scum?

That's not really what I meant though - what do you think of the quotes I provided, and Zakk's reaction to it

[Dunnstral]

Dwlee, can you at least respond to the stuff I pointed out? Do you think that makes me less likely scum?


What do you think of Zakk's continued pushing without acknowledging it?

What haven't I acknowledged?

The part where I'd have to be bussing 3 other scum to be mafia?

[Dunnstral]

All you've done this game is claim mason and coast on your claim

This is absolutely true!
Now, given this!
Given that zakk and Suzune have done nothing but coast on their mason claim all game.

Tell me.

WHAT THE

HELL

ARE YOU DOING STILL BELIEVING THEIR BS?!?

This is pretty convincing

[Dunnstral]

Dunn lots of ppl voted scum even scum lol

It's v easy to camp out on scum in a one person wagon and then all of a sudden you're not on the wagon anymore when it looks like it's starting to get serious

Was this your reply?

Because one of my scumreads was shot while I was still pushing there

The other I death tunneled until they were finally lynched

The other one I admittedly was off of once the survivor claim came in (though I contributed in running them up to that claim, where they would likely have not made it to end game)

[Dunnstral]

Not that kind of coasting.

You didn't

do anything

and relied on your mason claim to keep yourself from being lynched

The only reason you and suzune haven't been lynched over sircakez and fire assassin is because you guys claimed mason. Not by play.

If anybody is coasting it's not me

Suzune is coasting in that sense of the word

[Dunnstral]

That, for absolutely no discernible reason and with NO strategic gain from having done so, they just randomly decide to hop on...

...OR, that the majority of their members stayed OFF the wagon because they didn't need to be on it?

But varsoon and titus did hop on in the votecount after that one

[Dunnstral]

Day 1, Vote Count #14

Current Vote Count:

(0)

Almost50

(0)

SirCakez

(2)

beeboy -- PeregrineV, Brian Hollywood

(0)

Ranger

(1)

Nero Cain -- Dwlee99

(3)

Fire Assassin -- Titus, Almost50, TiphaineDeath

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Nero Cain

(0)

DrippingGoofball

(8)

Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

Kappy

(1)

PeregrineV -- Dunnstral

(0)

Antihero

(1)

Prophylaxis -- Varsoon

(0)

Heat

(0)

Dunnstral

(0)

Varsoon

(1)

Titus -- Fire Assassin

Not Voting:

TheWayItEnds, Kappy, Suzune

With 21 votes available, it takes 11 votes to hammer.

SirCakez is V/LA until July 4th.
Kappy is V/LA until July 5th.

Day 1 Will End on Thursday, July 7th, at 9 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-07 21:00:00)

Day 1, Final Vote Count:

(0)

Almost50

(0)

SirCakez

(2)

beeboy -- PeregrineV, Brian Hollywood

(0)

Ranger

(0)

Nero Cain

(1)

Fire Assassin -- TiphaineDeath

(1)

Nosferatu -- Dwlee99

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(1)

Dwlee99 -- Nero Cain

(0)

DrippingGoofball

(11)

Brian Hollywood -- SirCakez, Heat, Prophylaxis, beeboy, DrippingGoofball, Ranger, Antihero, Nosferatu, Titus, Varsoon, Almost50

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

Kappy

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(0)

Dunnstral

(0)

Varsoon

(2)

Titus -- Fire Assassin, Dunnstral

Not Voting:

TheWayItEnds, Kappy, Suzune

With 21 votes available, it took 11 votes to hammer.

[Dunnstral]

So what are we going to do.

I still put money on Anti. I am though voting Dunn because it makes the most logical sense because I suspect it is not ranger.

You think I'm scum with Antihero? What's your reasoning behind that?

[Dunnstral]

Quote me defending Anti one time this game.

[Dunnstral]

Quote where I strong stood by an opinion of how people should stop scumreading Anti.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: zakk

Pretty sure you just slipped though

[Dunnstral]

post 1518 doesn't mean anything

we're 5200 posts in, two quotes from early game really trumps the 50+ quotes I supplied against me being mafia?

I called antihero town.... in post 552, when BOTH him and me replaced in at around the same time anmd he was active

I said we shouldn't be checking anti... because he was a claimed pt checker BEFORE a neighborhood spy flipped

[Dunnstral]

This short interaction with suzune tells me she's blatant scum or the worst player ever

Everyone should be decided on lynching the masons now

[Dunnstral]

Dunn really goes to bat for Anti sometimes. She defends her to almost everyone in the game. Making this pair slightly more likely because Dunn has strong stood by the opinion of how both Anti should play the game and how people should stop scum reading Anti- As well as the fact that Anti's claim being fake matters less if other people are more suspicious.

Like you're either blatant scum or you literally haven't read the game

[Dunnstral]

Zakk, you disagree that Suzune's posts just now... don't make sense?

Why would vote for suzune?

[Dunnstral]

p-edit, Dunn, just stop. I cannot handle it from one more person this game. I may go crazy.

In case you're town

Do you realize why those posts made me vote you?

It's because they're not real analysis. Even if you're town, that's still not real analysis. you admitted it. You used search in my iso and pulled the first 3 results from early game. One wasn't even relevant

[Dunnstral]

Suzune, can you acknowledge that for me to be scum I'd have to be bussing three of my partners?

Why am I still your top lynch for today?

[Dunnstral]

I literally don't fucking care

Fire assassin being a world class asshole almost killed my will to play mafia at all

And ranger is finishing the job

Just fucking put me out of my misery

This is all coming from the guy

Who replaced into a game

lurked for two days

Then came in and got into a discussion with someone

Then backtracked saying "oh I haven't gotten my role pm"

Then replaced out because you got brought to l-1


And this game, if town:

You've ruined the game for Suzune

You've tunneled without acknowledging any of the points I'm making

[Dunnstral]

TOOK ME A DAY LONGER THAN I THOUGHT BUT I AM DONE WITH WRITING

NOW LETS ROCK AND ROLL HERE

How's it going?

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, I have reached the I do not care point any more. I am mentally beaten down in this game, I am at my wits end. I am ready for it to end. I will not lie to you. I'm tried of disagreeing with people, I am tired of waiting for people to post. I need this one to end because it holds me back and does not make me happy. Knowing i have to return to it, knowing that everyone hates me in it, knowing that all my bloody work means nothing, I'm tired. I just want to cry. But, because i put up with it for so long. I need what I have done to mean something or at least for the town to win, otherwise, I will feel even bloody worse.

I ran everyone person in this game as pair to pair judging on how the responded to everyone else. Frequency wise and relationship wise you have gone to bat for Anti more then anyone else in this game. I know because I worked on your pair relationship. I thought that was strange considering anti did not defend anyone else. But you did it a lot. Especially when Luna fox because to think that Anti was scum because of how her ability was being used and the danger of it with so many private topics, you were always one of the first to raise an opinion.

Seriously though, gut instinct here. I want anti. Probably because I want to be right. However, I do not even know if I am that anymore.

I don't understand why between you and zakk I'm being pushed non-stop

No regards to what I've been posting

Just straight tunneling, not even about anti

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

Omg, Antihero is being the voice of reason right now

I'm willing to believe that antihero and nosferatu are town
I think town can win this game easily now.

The only two scum teams I will consider

Are [zakk, Suzune]
or [Ranger, Dwlee]

we have two lynches

Suzune we need to work out why your Anti, Dunn theory is dumb and we need to agree on a lynch

[Dunnstral]

Like if you look at my iso it's actually ridiculous to think I'm scum

I bussed all 3 of my buddies? Why am I being voted not even in lylo

If you just put in the effort you'll see town has it pretty good right now

[Dunnstral]

I'm not even sure how I should feel about this Zakk. Should I be upset with this action? Should I be angry? Should i throw my hands up in the air and leave?

What in the world?

I need people to who think about the game critically. I want someone to share ideas with. I need not mindless drones to order around. I want someone to think with. I thought at least briefly that Dunn was going to think with me, but they stopped responding

I'm here

[Dunnstral]

I don't understand why antihero is confirmed scum to you?

[Dunnstral]

Why is nos out of the picture?

Realistically rethinking it

It's really unlikely that there is a traitor like anti said. One of those roles where you add it into a game to try to weaken the scum team but it just dodges investigations and associative tells and like he explained town is pretty weak

with that in mind, I think anti would have to be mafia, but he is currently being the voice of reason and pointing out the same thing i was trying to

[Dunnstral]

Right so

If I'm wrong on this I'm going to get yelled at post-game

I think the scum team might just be Ranger/Dwlee

Something I hadn't been putting too much stock in is that I think Ranger likes to switch up her playstyle as scum... a lot

Her most recent posting looks like she was pushing the me/dwlee thing pretty hard while still appearling to me
Her antagonistic pushing of the masons reminds me of her in stack the deck and it doesn't look like she's trying to consider anti... which would easily be displayed if she knows the masons are town but is planning to night kill anti anyway to deny a result (Suzune displayed no suspicion of Ranger or Dwlee)

I'm not seeing game solving
I'm seeing her try to swing her weight around and convince me, and others, to vote the masons.. more specifically, zakk, and if she were mafia she'd know suzune would vote for me

With that being said, right now I think I'd like to vote for Ranger..... or Dwlee

[Dunnstral]

Nah zakk's townread on dwlee where he'd be willing to vote nos instead is dumb

[Dunnstral]

Also Dwlee would be purposefully not going on me right now so that we look likely buddies

and of course everyone is going to vote me over dwlee for ??? reasons so that would be the mafia win

[Dunnstral]

btw I'm a guy

[Dunnstral]

Anti since you're being reasonable here

do you want to consider that for me to be scum I'd have to have bussed all 3 flipped scum at this point?

Seriously, you've seen me on PV, here's me on Titus:

Spoiler:

strong townleans: Ranger, beeboy, almost50, antihero, and (weak-ish) Titus
nulltown: Sircakez, The way it ends, Drippinggoofball
Null: Varsoon, TiphaineDeath, Prophylaxis, Heat, Fire Assaain, Nero Cain
nullscum: Brian Hollywood, Kappy, Suzune, nosferatu
mafia goon: Dwlee99

And peregrine needs to be replaced? or did I miss it

Titus are you serious?

I've voted: Beeboy, Dwlee, Fire assassin, and displayed suspicion at suzune but somehow I'm trying to play things safe

Titus what are you even talking about

VOTE: Titus

Not for the memes, that second part is nothing and you know it

I think Titus is mafia.

What were your reads again?

Beeboy, titus, sircakez, dgb town reads.
Nero, Nosf scum reads
Super undecided on you
Varying levels of "I dont even know" to "I think they

might

be ___" on everyone else

that's lame

Yeah I'm less inclined to believe dwlee is mafia

And more inclined to believe Titus is mafia because I can't see her town motive especially at points directed to me.

I want Titus shot but not for the memes, she's pushing stuff from a scum mindset.

Suzune isn't an acceptable vig shot

VOTE: Titus

willing to ignore beeboy's scum line

If Titus is town, Nero is mafia instead

That's not what I said.

I only said if Titus is town, you're very likely mafia instead

Though I believe that Titus is mafia first and foremost

All of Titus, Dunn and Almost still need death though.

Because in this list, I'm town and believe that a50 is town.

Also that dumb theory post you linked looks like something scum remembers and links, not something town remembers

Yeah uh Nos is mafia

Titus tomorrow please

beeboy is town

Let's get Nosferatu and Titus

Sir cakez can you get in line and vote nos please

Because I want to get Nosferatu

And Titus

VOTE: Titus

Are you serious saying I'm scum with Titus?

Why don't you vote here? Everyone seems to want her dead but I'm here alone voting her

I'll gladly be shot if we can just get Titus

a50 might be town and is a dumb lynch right now

beeboy, thoughts on titus?

VOTE: Titus

I mean, Titus wasn't even on my wagon of 8. Come on. I was an easy lynch and she sure could've finished it if she wanted to.

dumblogic

Titus if you're town I have no idea why you'd be tunneled on me like this. Some explanation?

Otherwise

VOTE: Titus

@Dwlee are you really questioning my vote on you? Look at your past 10 or so posts

My bad, didn't realize we were in multiball.

Regardless, seems we agree that Titus is scum so don't act like I have cooties and come vote with me

YOU DIDN'T DO MUCH OF ANYTHING AT ALL

That's why I voted you.......

The sheeping part wasn't serious, by the way but Titus latched on in a way that indicates she's a scumrobot

I'm not voting you right now

Thoughts on Titus?

Because her push on me is dumb.

Your lyncher theory is just flat out wrong by the way because the reason I started pushing Titus in the first place was BECAUSE of dumb read/vote on me

Which I still believe, and she won't explain her read and just tries to push it.

So why haven't you voted Titus when I was trying to get that going?

Why do you have to solo vote TheWayItEnds (who obviously isn't getting lynched)

Don't disolve the Titus wagon

So in summary, there were a bunch of wagons, but then they dissipated and congregated on Ranger?

no. The two wagons were Titus and PV and then I had a little 3 man bandwagon then we had a sudden Ranger wagon that got to l2 in like >1 hour

Yeah seriously, Ranger is L-2???? For "lurking" meanwhile the PV wagon never took off

Titus still top scum, Ranger is a horrible lynch pushed by scum to get off of Titus/PV

For something like that there must have been something short of a cop (guilty?) or a scum slip, that is definetly not something i'd consider fast movement...

Scum might be aiming for a deadline scramble, how did the lynch go on D1?

Brian Hollywood was extreme Derp town who the whole town thought was scum. Then Almost50 hammered without a claim to try and get a vig to shoot him.

I didn't. You pushed a mislynch hard.

We are lynching PV and then I'm getting all of Titus, TD Varsoon and Cakes lynched.

Sounds good

beeboy vote Titus??????????????????????????????

I don't understand why we can't get Titus

People are intentionally avoiding voting her

Ignoring this thread for 24 hours. Like damn vigging your buddy is ballsy Nero.

There's no way Titus is town.

^scum with titus

Actually I might just want to get Titus

Titus tomorrow

Why would I...?

I want to get Titus but am willing to get SirCakez

VOTE: Titus

Figuring this out is giving me a headache >.<

Anyone got any ideas?

We can stick with Titus or lynch Cake for that reaction

Or lynch Zakk for that reaction and lol voting me

Gonna assume Nero has a reason to think there's a third party scum

Also I was not, in fact, a lyncher on Titus so there's that

The fact that Titus had nothing to say about me makes me strongly believe she's mafia, actually

[Dunnstral]

Admittedly I didn't push varsoon all that much

Put I was pushing there and was part of what made him claim survivor (where I backed off of him)

I pushed Titus all game long
I pushed PV up until he got shot which I couldn't have expected

[Dunnstral]

Contrary to what everyone is saying, a scum team of me and Ranger is actually quite unlikely.

I'll explain after Anti reads through some stuff and maybe he'll pick up on it

[Dunnstral]

Here is an interesting stretch from vote count 2.24 to vote count 2.25

Spoiler: don't click this if you don't want your mind blown

Day 2, Vote Count #24

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(1)

Ranger -- beeboy

(3)

Nero Cain -- zakk, Titus, TiphaineDeath

(0)

Fire Assassin

(1)

Nosferatu -- SirCakez

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(4)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Heat, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(4)

Titus -- Dwlee99, Dunnstral, Suzune, Fire Assassin

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Ranger is V/LA until July 12th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

Hey Dwlee, does the scum team have day talk?

Probably. I think in skull's last game scum had day talk

In Borderlands they did, but only because of a town role
Skull doesn't give scum day talk otherwise (we didn't have it in Killer Instinct)

Nah I don't really care just wanted to see what Dwlee said

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

my ranger townread is dead fyi, her lurking this much is a scumtell

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

Hi Varsoon!
Who do you think is scum?

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Well Titus, because I think you are scum. I will admit that Nero went on a long rant about things. However, for the first time ever, I do not sense that Nero is scum this game. We are though trapped in a loop. We are either going to lynch you, or we are going to choose another target because the game as stagnated.

Titus, Dunnstral (who I am voting iirc), and prophylaxis are the players I suspect the most.

I'm super tired and stressed out.
I got about 4 hours of sleep before having to get up to resolve the night phase in time for my game
So glad that game is done.

You suspect me but followed me onto Dunn?

Yup!

Suzune you should vote Ranger

I would love to vote Ranger. He is on my scummy list...

Okay, I hate to do this, but I am out for a while now. I am going to take that little vacation that I have been talking about.
Love you all. I will be back to work on this upon my return.

VOTE: Ranger
Nothing is going to happen with that Titus one today.

@Mod, I will be v/la until Monday 18th

Why is my Proph wagon not getting any traction

Because there's already a wagon on scum Nero.

Vote: Titus

some peoples lurker game is strong af this game

aka prophylaxis. and ranger. and varsoon.

Bloodborne Mafia (the stupid huge dumb stressful clusterfuck of a game I was running) just ended, so I can finally actually have the presence I want elsewhere without feeling stressed for neglecting my baby.

What's good, homie?

neglect it more and spam

VOTE: Ranger

That's perfect just what I was waiting 4

VOTE: ranger

ugh
VOTE: Ranger
this works then

Cause they tried to buddy me.
But ranger is today Titus tomorrow

No, Titus today.
Ranger maybe tomorrow.

Day 2, Vote Count #25

Current Vote Count:

(2)

Almost50 -- PeregrineV, Antihero

(1)

SirCakez -- TheWayItEnds

(1)

beeboy -- Ranger

(5)

Ranger -- beeboy, Suzune, Dwlee99, Heat, SirCakez

(1)

Nero Cain -- Titus

(0)

Fire Assassin

(0)

Nosferatu

(0)

Suzune

(0)

TiphaineDeath

(0)

Dwlee99

(0)

TheWayItEnds

(0)

zakk

(3)

PeregrineV -- Nosferatu, Almost50, Nero Cain

(0)

Antihero

(0)

Prophylaxis

(0)

Heat

(1)

Dunnstral -- Varsoon

(0)

Varsoon

(3)

Titus -- Dunnstral, Fire Assassin, zakk

Not Voting:

Prophylaxis, TiphaineDeath

With 19 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

zakk is V/LA until July 14th.
Dwlee99 is V/LA until July 17th.
Suzune is V/LA until July 18th.

Day 2 Will End on Saturday, July 16th, at 8 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-07-16 20:00:00)

What am I looking at here?

[Dunnstral]

Contrary to what everyone is saying, a scum team of me and Ranger is actually quite unlikely.

I'll explain after Anti reads through some stuff and maybe he'll pick up on it

how about just tell me now

Look at the way Ranger interacts with me. Brings up another game we were both in. If she's scum she's trying to persuade me to vote with her

[Dunnstral]

Yeah she'd have seen what I did to Titus when she faked a scumread on me and turned it into a townread real quick

[Dunnstral]

I don't think a traitor is likely with masons alive.... like that's too much investigative doodging without reason

alternatively if we get down to 3 players alive and no scum have flipped (unlikely tinfoil scenario) we can assume nosferatu is traitor

[Dunnstral]

Yeah she'd have seen what I did to Titus when she faked a scumread on me and turned it into a townread real quick

This is Titus' scum mo. Did it to me this game too.

I came into this game with a townlean on Titus

She "scumread" me for bad reasons

I tunneled her all game long until she was lynched

[Dunnstral]

1. me voting titus when the wagon was shifting to ranger (i'm town)

*proceeds to wagon the other two townies voting titus*

[Dunnstral]

I feel like once we lynch one scum all the associations will fall into place based on how everyone is playing.

ALSO WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING RANGER

VOTE: Ranger

*dies shortly afterwards*

They were claimed tracker

[Dunnstral]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

[Dunnstral]

Zakk from your point of view you should probably be wanting Ranger right now though

[Dunnstral]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

[Dunnstral]

Zakk from your point of view you should probably be wanting Ranger right now though

why?

tbh i have gone back and forth on all of you guys so much i dont even know, so i'm just throwing shit around and seeing where it sticks, and trying to make people see things every way possible, and at the end of the day if i'm lynched so be it, but i'm not gonna just let ppl slide by and nobody gets a pass, even antihero. even though he's pretty much conftown at this point.

Because by your own logic, you don't think a scum team of dunnstral, dwlee is possible

That leaves Ranger as the one that's always scum if you believe the scum are in that 3

[Dunnstral]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

I've been explaining this since yesterday, I've shown my work already

[Dunnstral]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

and why are you telling ranger you are willing to lynch dwlee, if that's his supposed scumbuddy

Because if Ranger is town she should be fine lynching Dwlee.

Antihero will almost certainly be the night kill, and She and I would be like confirmed town to each other (meaning the masons are scum)

[Dunnstral]

dunn you haven't once voted ranger in the entire game.

And?

Seriously go back and read my posts from last night

[Dunnstral]

you can't base your opinions on what i believe

laughing my fucking ass off

Do you want to get policy lynched?

Reread that entire interaction

[Dunnstral]

Right so

If I'm wrong on this I'm going to get yelled at post-game

I think the scum team might just be Ranger/Dwlee

Something I hadn't been putting too much stock in is that I think Ranger likes to switch up her playstyle as scum... a lot

Her most recent posting looks like she was pushing the me/dwlee thing pretty hard while still appearling to me
Her antagonistic pushing of the masons reminds me of her in stack the deck and it doesn't look like she's trying to consider anti... which would easily be displayed if she knows the masons are town but is planning to night kill anti anyway to deny a result (Suzune displayed no suspicion of Ranger or Dwlee)

I'm not seeing game solving
I'm seeing her try to swing her weight around and convince me, and others, to vote the masons.. more specifically, zakk, and if she were mafia she'd know suzune would vote for me

With that being said, right now I think I'd like to vote for Ranger..... or Dwlee

Contrary to what everyone is saying, a scum team of me and Ranger is actually quite unlikely.

I'll explain after Anti reads through some stuff and maybe he'll pick up on it

Contrary to what everyone is saying, a scum team of me and Ranger is actually quite unlikely.

I'll explain after Anti reads through some stuff and maybe he'll pick up on it

how about just tell me now

Look at the way Ranger interacts with me. Brings up another game we were both in. If she's scum she's trying to persuade me to vote with her

Yeah she'd have seen what I did to Titus when she faked a scumread on me and turned it into a townread real quick

Yeah she'd have seen what I did to Titus when she faked a scumread on me and turned it into a townread real quick

This is Titus' scum mo. Did it to me this game too.

I came into this game with a townlean on Titus

She "scumread" me for bad reasons

I tunneled her all game long until she was lynched

[Dunnstral]

@Ranger I am willing to lynch Dwlee today

@zakk I am willing to lynch dwlee today

who's dwlee's buddy?

Ranger

show your work

i thought you thought ranger was town.

and why are you telling ranger you are willing to lynch dwlee, if that's his supposed scumbuddy

Because if Ranger is town she should be fine lynching Dwlee.

Antihero will almost certainly be the night kill, and She and I would be like confirmed town to each other (meaning the masons are scum)

we're not scum

try again.

that solution is not true.

Then Dwlee and Ranger are scum, and I'm willing to lynch there first. The solution is true.

[Dunnstral]

and today he is willing to vote dunnstral.

like you take this vote completely out of context
and there's no way you forgot that context

you made very veeery sure that you couldn't in any possible way be blamed if dunn flipped town

which makes me VERY sure you and dunn aren't scum together.

also, these posts.
495, 517, 527, 529, 530, 535, 537, 538, 554

it ain't dunn/dwlee, we can cross that off our lists, people.

Hey remember when I called him out for doing that when it happened and it got ignored?

Not going to let Zakk get away with fake claiming masons and lying about a guilty. Explain your guilty.

If you're not mafia it's almost 100% Dwlee who was posturing there, you need to explain how you could have had an inno on me

[Dunnstral]

all non-suzune three townies in this game recognize the effort i've been putting in

I recognize your ability to skip past what I say then rehash it later on in the game and take credit and call me useless while not having found any scum yourself

[Dunnstral]

It's weird how both ranger and dwlee were sort of pushing the theory "nos is town because there wouldn't be 3 mafia voting in a row"

But that requires nos to be traitor and they wouldn't know he's scum so it's a nothing point

I think it's ranger and Dwlee.....

Both of them seem to think it's the masons

[Dunnstral]

It's weird how both ranger and dwlee were sort of pushing the theory "nos is town because there wouldn't be 3 mafia voting in a row"

But that requires nos to be traitor and they wouldn't know he's scum so it's a nothing point

I think it's ranger and Dwlee.....

Both of them seem to think it's the masons

[Dunnstral]

for them to be scum I'd think nos wasn't a traitor

Which is bizarre

[Dunnstral]

as in bizarre to think he's scum but not a traitor and with dwlee, he's just some godfather type role when it's not warranted

[Dunnstral]

I don't think nos is a traitor. I think Dwlee/Ranger as both scum is just the highest probability right now

VOTE: Dwlee

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ranger

[Dunnstral]

okay so titus calls ranger scum a LOT

Do they interact a lot aside from that

[Dunnstral]

I mean I'm already set on voting ranger right now but that's what you should be considering

[Dunnstral]

I mean I'm already set on voting ranger right now but that's what you should be considering

if ranger flips town

and thats a big if

but if

who do you think is scum?

You and suzune

Or dwlee + ?

[Dunnstral]

Probably Ranger

[Dunnstral]

I mean I'm already set on voting ranger right now but that's what you should be considering

if ranger flips town

and thats a big if

but if

who do you think is scum?

You and suzune

Or dwlee + ?

Lol Dunn how the fuck is ranger gonna be scum if she's town

P.S. RIP in peace, me (after this scum flip)

RIP me anyway after this town flip

The thing is I'm not really seeing a combination other than dwlee + ranger or you + suzune

I don't think nos is mafia with anti town. Theoretically anti + nos is a possible scum team but that seems like the least likely option

[Dunnstral]

ughhhhh

unvote

So who is scum to you?

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Maybe it's anti

[Dunnstral]

Ranger you should consider other possibilities

What do you think about zakk's theory that me and dwlee are an unlikely team? Would you be able to consider anti/nos as mafia?

[Dunnstral]

We're better off lynching someone who isn't a mason today to try and hit scum, as the masons are a package set anyway and if we were going to lynch them it would be in lylo

[Dunnstral]

vote her

[Dunnstral]

Nah why don't you uh come out with whatever you had to say

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Antihero

[Dunnstral]

I don't think a traitor role is likelier than anti scum

[Dunnstral]

Why would there even be a traitor from your point of view nos

[Dunnstral]

I want everyone's top suspect if anti flips town

And everyone's top suspect if he flips scum

Ready set go

If anti is town I'll believe nos is town.

Meaning it's either you and suzune or ranger and dwlee

If anti is scum we should rope nos

[Dunnstral]

What are we waiting for

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Actually let's slow this down a bit

i think Nos is most likely mafia, with Ranger in 2nd

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Nosferatu

Full speed ahead

[Dunnstral]

I think dwlee is town

Nos could easily be mafia

But if not I think it's ranger

[Dunnstral]

You shouldn't be thinking I'm mafia after yesterday though.

[Dunnstral]

I need to be absolutely certain before I vote.

I don't plan on voting dwlee over you

[Dunnstral]

Hammer Nos?

[Dunnstral]

So you think last scum is either ranger or me?

I should be obvious town after yesterday

[Dunnstral]

I don't know how you can think I'm mafia

[Dunnstral]

I want to hear the argument for nos being town

Which was never made public

[Dunnstral]

Ranger you're not even looking at the actual players isos, though? Only at scum's isos

Currently I think Nos is most likely to be mafia, why do you think it's Dwlee?

[Dunnstral]

Let's get nos

[Dunnstral]

You don't have a reason to suspect me and don't have a reason to townread nos.

[Dunnstral]

Rather, there are reasons for you to believe the opposite for both

[Dunnstral]

Dunn has strong stood by the opinion of how both Anti should play the game and how people should stop scum reading Anti- As well as the fact that Anti's claim being fake matters less if other people are more suspicious.

Are you serious This reads more as a smear campaign than someone trying to figure out the game, when have I done that stuff...?

[Dunnstral]

You don't have a reason to suspect me and don't have a reason to townread nos.

This is true!
That Dwlee does should tell you...

what

, exactly?

So why can't we hammer nos, who i think is most likely to be mafia, and then if not you let me figure this out tomorrow?

You must realize that even if dwlee is mafia here he won't be lynched until nosferatu and suzune are dead (a very good reason for him to want Ranger dead, by the way, so he can lynch me tomorrow)

[Dunnstral]

ok.

Before this game ends I'm lynching nosferatu.

That means if it's not them I'll have to decide between one of ranger/dwlee today

[Dunnstral]

So why can't we hammer nos, who i think is most likely to be mafia, and then if not you let me figure this out tomorrow?

Well to be blunt.

Because I don't think you will.

You say you will.
You say you'll analyze.
And maybe you think you will.

Maybe, you actually think you'll put in that effort.

But I don't think you actually would.
I don't think you would actually give the analysis actual, real, serious THOUGHT.

If you could prove me wrong, then I'd vote whoever. Me, Nosferatu, wouldn't matter. If you could show me proof, actual, hard, physical PROOF that you would, seriously, legitimately, actually well and truly, consider the options, weigh things, and try with your absolute best might to make the right call.
I'd hammer.

But I don't think you can.

Now, mind you.
I've thought of one or two ways already that you could demonstrate this. More than what I've thought of may exist, even! But I can't actually tell you what you'd need to do in order for it to be proof, because if I told you what you needed to do for proof, then you doing it would no longer be proof. Just appeasement.

So, can you brainstorm something that can demonstrate this?
(Hint: saying, "You have my word?" is not the answer.)

well its either ranger or dwlee anyway so does it really matter tho

Yes, because I think you are town, and if you flip town, we're gonna have a lylo of three unconfirmed player, with Dunnstral like 99.99% chance having the hammer vote...
...And he is currently convinced that Dwlee is town.

Sooooooooooooo...lynching you really

would

matter, because right now, I don't see us winning if it happens. (See also: needing proof from Dunnstral.)

Really

[Dunnstral]

What if I said I think she's town

[Dunnstral]

Like dwlee should realize Ranger obviously townreads me

[Dunnstral]

But he plans on voting me over nos if Ranger is town

And I think Ranger is town

You can see why I'm hesitant to vote Ranger, yes?

[Dunnstral]

If Ranger is town, then who is scum to you guys?

Because right now the ones not thinking about anything appear to be dwlee and nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

Ranger: You want me to vote Dwlee/Nosferatu, right? You're only opposed because you think I'd hammer you over dwlee, and that I wouldn't think things through?

You realize that if you're town and get lynched, I'd still want nosferatu

[Dunnstral]

I am in objection to you not thinking and handing Dwlee the win.

I told you I thought you were town?

[Dunnstral]

Im so DUNN with u dunnstral

nice one

[Dunnstral]

Can you explain to me why I should lynch Ranger over Dwlee?

[Dunnstral]

But the timer