Survivormeet Invitational - Game Over

[pablito]

VOTE: radja

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Sending PM to Shadoweh:

I like your face. Alliance me please? I got your back boo.

Sending PM to Majiffy:
Hi do you like watching big brother. I'm in love with zakiyah's nostrils. I hope you join her fan club with me. I heard we have the same friends on this tribe. Vote with me please.

Sending PM to DeathNote:
I'm so excited to be in a game with you. I've always wanted to be in a game with you since forever. Let's get together and run this game all the way to the ftc. I promise to help you idol hunt but only if you give me the opportunity to backstabbed you gloriously before you do it to me. Dealio?

Dear specs: I think I got this game done. Not being voted out first and I will win because yeah my elo is better than yours.

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Needs more drink posting.

I need more drink. Day drinking please.

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Shadoweh have you made your jury speech yet?

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That's so OTT4 klick. So iconic.

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Confirming your vote makes you such a #gamechanger

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Dear specs I want to play this entire game like inv0 or utrp2 but then holy had to say something and I can't let that go so get ready for like OTTNN5 please thank you.

Also to answer your silly questions:
I trust Dragons the most to take care of my dog.
The trust mate I tribe the most is Radja
On a scale of reck to grim I trust pie like gamma level.

Oh and you go ben coco.

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Pm to xof: hey I think we should f3 with hippy and drink shots of bourbon. I trust him lots and also p.s. I like your face.

PM to PrivateI: you remind me of zakiyah's sexy nostrils. Also hippy is targeting you so let's make a f3 with him. Also let's get drunk together.

I need to go idol hunting now I think. Going to loudly announce I'm going into the woods to pee because my bladder is about fifteen minutes full of urine and I need someone to go with me to hold the toilet paper while I pee.

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Have we all decided on sleeping arrangements yet. There needs to be hook-ups in this game.

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I bet someone was listening at the bathroom when Shadoweh was doing her confessional.

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Trust me I do not have an idol.

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I think it's clear who shadow picked and based on that knowledge I do not believe she is scum or has an idol. And if someone hasn't picked up on her crumbs then yeah

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VOTE: gamma

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Why do I say anything?

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I don't trust you Mr. Haschel Cedricson. Especially after we were allianced earlier.

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It's okay guys. It's alright to vote me. I know you want to

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No really. I know all of you always wanted me out. I've come to peace with it.

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Congrats mate.

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I prodded ur mom

cofntown

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It's okay guys. It's alright to vote me. I know you want to

No really. I know all of you always wanted me out. I've come to peace with it.

I don't like these posts, but I also don't like the day to end because that means post-meet blues are right around the corner.

FoS: Pablito

Why not? I'm totally expecting everyone to VOTE me. Because it would be so iconic. Argh.

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FLUSH - does that mean someone needs to sht in my mouth?

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Yup.

Sup?

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You're requesting a claim? I'm OGML the hero of this story and you're all the villains.

Would you like more from me? I can actually start playing the game if you'd like. I was still trying to figure out how to role play this one.

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My analysis on the people on my wagon:

hiplop

knows me and my style probably better than anyone on this website not named OGML (although std should be up there if he remembers much from those good ol' days) - I would not be surprised if he thought that my interactions in this game are different from how I normally play. But that should be fairly obvious. Then again, hiplop has played this game as mafia and not as the invitational, so this seems genuine. Then again, I wouldn't put it above him to do this as scum.

Bellaphant

was the second to vote. There had been three days between their votes and a wagon on Shadow was starting to seriously build at that point. Bella was wondering more about my involvement with speccing though so she was genuinely building a case on me at that point.

Klick

joins on shortly. No comments on me before that. No read.



At this point I make a post about my thoughts on Shadow. Dragons mentions it but chooses not to vote me. I am curious why. Haschel dittoes that action

Gamma

votes me afterward. Considering I've made a post and there's not really other posts around to look at, I don't feel bad about that vote.

YNGO

- continues to wagon, just like the Shadow wagon.

UT

- ditto

Blackberry

- wagons again, but this one feels weird because there's an admission of not having read the thread. That's either ballsy scum or just blatant wagonning. You guys decide.

Majiffy asks about the case on me. This could be scum trying to build cred or is just genuine questioning.

PrivateI

Foses me then later votes me.

Those confirming their vote essentially (or reaffirming that they're okay with my lynch) - Gamma/Pie, Klick.

BPC

then votes. I'm not bothered by that vote because no one's playing the game yet and we're in a lull.

Now there's a weird thing going on with StD/Ceph defending me and the quick vote on dragons as a result.

I think I guess the most suspicious ones in this interaction are Berry, Klick? and I'm curious about Haschel's opinion if we're moving out of RVS.

With Berry, there's disinterest in the game, but wagons. I feel like at least the others who are randomly wagonning are active in the game and seem to have more interest in getting the game moving.

There really is nothing in this game so far to go off of. I do not have an idol just like I said before.

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Now there's a weird thing going on with StD/Ceph defending me and the quick vote on dragons as a result.

We're not defending you. We just can't figure out why people are voting you, and didn't like Monty's vote.

That said, I don't know what the point of this post is.

I'd consider that some type of defense. It's also not very pointed. Do you have concerns with any specific votes?

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BPC was L-1. If I were in his position, I'd be okay with putting L-1 on me for joking around and not playing. Berry is playing similarly but put the vote earlier in the sequence. If I'm scum putting votes on a frivolous wagon, I'd be comfortable doing L-1 especially when there's momentum and there's a vote coming before then. I think my opinion is more on the vote itself and the sequence of getting me to L-1 - I don't think I have an opinion on BPC and I think my comments are not connected to BPC being the voter.

PrivateI is building a case, but there's a difference between that one and Bella. Bella's doing it when no one was really voicing their opinionof me, PrivateI did it when there was already legitimate words on me. Maybe that's scum trying to legitimize a vote. I didn't even realize that I wasn't commenting much on PrivateI, thanks for that one.

I'd say there's scum on the vote, but I'd be likely to think that there's scum off the vote as well. I have a better grasp of those not on the vote because those that are not have actually mentioned reasons. Those on the vote have not and therefore I can't get a read too well.

Pedit: I'm mentioning idols because OGML was all "BAM, idoled" during survivormeet. Because of my role, I feel like it needs to be known. If my role were pirate mollie, I don't think I would even mention it because it's not applicable to my character.

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gamma - if you picked OGML would you mention idols? jokingly or otherwise?

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BPC's vote got me to play the game. I don't mind that it did that. I don't mind if it gets others to play.

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Lol shadoweh thinks she's in charge

But she is.

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That was not the reference. It was ti my shadow post

I was not mentioning my own vote. Didn't even realize I was voting there VOTE: unvote

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mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

VOTE: Bellaphant

srsly pabs who da scum tho

I want berry prodded and questioned. I get good vibes from Bella but that's only gut. I trust shadow. I don't know scum. Maybe hiplop.

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I want berry prodded and questioned. I get good vibes from Bella but that's only gut. I trust shadow. I don't know scum. Maybe hiplop.

I'm confused. You have a scumread on hiplop strong enough for him to be your second-biggest suspect, but you said he seemed genuine and that the main thing he noticed about you was something that you agree is correct?

Is that a fair characterization of your stance on hiplop?

Hiplop when I wrote gto my genuine label but his disappearing and not being as intense in the game is starting to get scummy. When he's intense he's here and he goes full jugular. His vote in me felt that way but the more he is away the more suspicious I get.

Time is the unwritten context which changes my read.

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Fair enough. I am fairly wishy washy and I often hedge.

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Shadoweh <3 pablito. That's what's going on.

I'm most suspicious of Berry and hiplop at the moment but am willing to just sheep wherever Shadow goes.

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I can do this based on Dragons commentary

VOTE: bpc

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Actually wait. Bpc is busy with lol and mk. I think that explains the reduced engagement VOTE: unvote

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VOTE: Radja

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These mods

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Yes. VOTE: bipolarchemist

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So is it important to note that both Bella and Radja opened up with votes on xofelf then?

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Hiplop was pretty intent on playing mafia from the outset. I urge you to re read him and share your opinion.

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That's a fair assessment then.

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You go ben coco

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Std is a boss

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Xalxe, did you get a chance for your D1 read yet?

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Let's not mess up this vote count thing again. Isn't it actually L-1 because of DN's vote?

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... Idk I was going off what the VC was from there

Yes that is accurate.

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Errr. Statement accurate only. Pun intended

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Xalxe is a good lynch. BPC was scummy, but reasons for Xalxe have already been posted above.

BPC was the alleged non-hammer vote on me and didn't move during the rest of the day. I think one of hiplop/BPC is scum for not doing much once my wagon died down. hiplop is only getting a pass for making one good post recently, but Xalxe is just doing my head in.

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<__< What the fuck was that for, we had a deadline extension and none of you asked Xalxe to claim?

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VOTE: privatei

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I'm sheeping Shadow.

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Okay VOTE: hiplop based on a meta read.

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I'm sheeping Shadow.

hiplop D1 went hard at me and dropped off in nowhere land. I don't think that matches the town-hiplop I know. D2 he made one good post and dropped off in nowhere land.

I originally wanted to vote hiplop earlier today (and most of yesterday), but I was just sheeping Shadoweh most of the time this game.

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Oh, and the main reason for suspecting hiplop/bpc yesterday was because they parked their votes on me during D1 and since I was the counter-wagon to the

two

scum wagons - I felt that it was likely BPC and/or hiplop were scum that were trying to get away from hiding from taking a stance on those wagons. Also to try to get the mis-lynch on me since there were technicalities and such. (the other person to park the vote was PrivateI. Therefore both are good to pressure.)

As such, hiplop, what was your opinion again on the radja-bella competing wagons in D1?

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They were f2f in Chicago.

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Fair enough. What do you think about his lack of moving vote in end of d1?

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Piggygal what do you think of mist's last post?

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Xofelf, who is the most iconic player in this game?

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I was really just wondering what someone else thought about Mist's creation of the dichotomy of Majiffy/Kmd. I didn't find it savoury, and I asked you because you hadn't spoken much recently. I get why you don't see it as town vs town. I don't see it though. I don't like people who label too much of TvT or TvS because it could be chaining up lynches.

I think both are town for what it's worth. Kmd came on the scene real well. And Majiffy seems genuine. I'm more worried about those that are lurking at the moment - also xofelf doesn't inspire town feelings in me. You know who inspires town feelings for me? Dragons. But they're also awesome guys, so it's just the cherry on top.

Majiffy if there were lurkerscum who would it be?

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No its the second one

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VOTE: hiplop

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Makes sense. So I'm still thinking about that vote-parking theory at end of D1 - that leads me toward PrivateI then.

Re-read D1. Interesting things to note: Haschel was active. He also said that he understood Radja wagon but not Bella wagon. The biggest detractor from Bella-wagon were Haschel and Berry. Both aimed to getting Radja lynched instead.

Meh, there's lots of good stuff in D1 knowing that Bella is scum too, I'm not motivated to explain more. Just VOTE: PrivateI

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I'm too exhausted this week to do a proper post.

1) Still not happy with how PrivateI built up to wanting to vote me

It's okay guys. It's alright to vote me. I know you want to

No really. I know all of you always wanted me out. I've come to peace with it.

I don't like these posts, but I also don't like the day to end because that means post-meet blues are right around the corner.

FoS: Pablito

2) Potentially fake-called the L-2

That's L-2, I think.

3) Vote-parked for the rest of the day while scum helped bus scum (as evidenced by the two major wagons being Bella vs. Radja). The vote parking is actually justified here.

Can everyone just claim and shit.

And if you're not voting vote someone please. Not voting is equivalent to stalling at this point >_>

Are you kidding me?

I don't like Blackberry at all atm. Claiming, frankly, doesn't help us now, and I don't think it will until much later.

Mod, I think the vote count is wrong somehow. There are 19 players or so (maybe 18?), but your last vote count shows 21 votes casted or not casted, and four people are recorded as not voting, but the number not voting is listed as five.

Looking at it now...

Finally, I don't have a wagon I want to hop in at this time. I like Pablitoscum, and I think Dragons and Radja are just town fighting.

4) D2 hasn't explained anything about any possible change of thoughts on pablito, but then comments on UT regarding pablito-wagon. If PrivateI is unsure if I'm scum, I'm not sure if I buy this statement, because there's no standard to make any claim about alignment (sure, it may look sketchy, but whatever). Hiplop and I caught Bro as scum in Homestuck because of this flippity-floppity stance

Spoiler:

we could lynch PrivateI

I don't see a downside

Oh so that's your argument

"Oh I had no reason and now you caught me lying going to brush it off with sarcasm/10"

Cute.

I don't think there's something wrong with changing wagons when yours doesn't seem to be working

And now the argument changes again

Lets see how many more reasons Dragon comes up with to justify their bad voting pattern.

Some you think he couldn't pick which of his partners to bus? Why aren't you bitching about my voting patterns

do you have anything to add or do you want to die today?

I don't really understand UT so far, but he hasn't been here since Monday (haha, I'm one to talk), so I don't have more material to figure out what's happening. He did the same thing Day One, jumping on the Pablito wagon after half the votes needed to lynch had already been cast, and not throwing any votes out until then. He seems to favour casting unfounded, unrelated aspersions from the side, and hopping on the "Anyone, As Long As It's Not Me" wagon once it gains momentum. While this might be a (two-time) winning strategy for a Survivor game, it's scummy as it can be here.

Vote: Untrod Tripod

My understanding is that if PrivateI thinks I'm potentially scum, then isn't it actually good that UT jumped on pablito-wagon in the first place? The reason why this is a flip flop is because later on PrivateI questions me about my votes, which could be seen as PrivateI potentially suspecting me or at least trying to reopen the pablito-wagon.

Spoiler:

VOTE: privatei

i still would have preferred the gays died

Okay VOTE: hiplop based on a meta read.

Was Hiplop's post scummy/"meta" enough to warrant switching votes, when it seemed like you were just hopping on a wagon in the first place? Explain the vote on hiplop as well.

PrivateI's ISO does not have 100% consistency for me, and that is a big scumtell for me. It's not foolproof though, but I think it's damn-worth well pursuing.

Also PrivateI's voting history looks suspicious.

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@pablito, do you have opinions on any Radja/Bella/PrivateI interactions?

From the iso privateI was blatantly veering toward discrediting the radja wagon and if I remember from my contextual d1 reread it seemed like there was intentional non commenting on bella.

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Eh. I feel like best course of action is to pressure hachel or replacement

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VOTE: haschel

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Isn't Mist being replaced too?

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okay

voting haschel is fine and all on wednesday

but right now there's literally nothing in that slot so do something else until then, please

VOTE: Mist

My previous post was in regards to the above.

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Bella was the late D1 counterwagon. So he's okay with hammering Radja, but is opposed to the one on Bella. So yes, pressure good.

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I was voting Haschel but I'll just do this to make the vote count easier

VOTE: aptil

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VOTE: privatei

Ok.

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VOTE: xofelf

Reasons.

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Totally.

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I think massclaiming is good. MattP is a good doctor. I can buy that role going with that person.

I approve of a xofelf wagon.

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Lol. VOTE: klick why didn't I see it before

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So pablito's "reasons" against xofelf weren't actually reasons reasons. k.

I have my reasons. They are the same reasons for why shadow did not want to wagon xofelf. I'm just going in a different direction with those reasons.

As for klick...isn't grimm actually our doctor? I was pretty not sure that a non restricted doctor would make it into the setup. Having two doctors is unheard of. One is dead.

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Doc mason protecting a compulsive bg would be over powered no?

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BP sk? RB sk? RB-jester?

I think there are claims that will not want to claim the lack of death possibly. I don't disagree with mass claiming and waiting until then rich. But I am not sure lack of reason for no kill is a reason to think klick is conftown

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Why has no one asked klick why he has been switching back and forth between targets? If you save gamma why bother saving someone else? Further more if you save gamma twice why did you even go back to saving gamma?

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VOTE: xofelf

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I think Klick should ask the next person to claim so we can get this massclaim started. No one's expressed any opposition, right?