Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

[iraonavp]

Maestro should just say who it is, no reason to go half-way and give a group.

[iraonavp]

No, there aren't any solid reasons.

[iraonavp]

If you didn't care, why did you even respond?

[iraonavp]

VOTE: SirCakez

For bussing FROOTLOOP and Katsuki.

[iraonavp]

he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list

^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

smart

Is this sarcastic? Because what Maestro is suggesting is withholding information for no reason...

[iraonavp]

he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list

^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

smart

Is this sarcastic? Because what Maestro is suggesting is withholding information for no reason...

I do have reasons. I outlined them in my claim-post. If you don't agree with them, it does not make them wrong, and it does not mean they do not exist. It just means you don't agree with them. I'm not sharing my Guilty until we have a full massclaim

AND

the majority of living players say they would rather lynch the Guilty. This being a gambit makes no sense if I were Scum.

Do you want me to go over why I'm not sharing the Guilty, iraonavp? Step by step? In a slow voice?

Yes.

You did not outline any reasons because a massclaim doesn't help us find out your sanity...

[iraonavp]

kraska77 claimed VT already...

But Maestro, I know. Massclaiming is good, you just changed from why you shouldn't claim your result to that...

[iraonavp]

Btw @ira / @ckd, I'm not sure if you realize it, but I almost singlehandedly switched the lynch to Froot Loop yesterday hours from deadline. I never in a million years would've needed to do that, nor would I have wanted to do that, if I were somehow a Scum double-voter in this setup. You have no fucking ground to stand on if you want to try and discredit my result or the fact that I'm Town. So you can stop trying right now.

What?

I never said that, just think you are anti-town....

[iraonavp]

Well, it seems like kraska77 is town-aligned because why would you not include king of hearts in the game?

[iraonavp]

Popcorn is too slow, Maestro gets antsy so everyone should just claim immediately when they get here...

[iraonavp]

If I stop talking then I'll get mislynched for avoiding the thread...

[iraonavp]

I know, it's ridiculous... Hopefully it won't happen here unless MoD replaces into the game.

Well, it seems like kraska77 is town-aligned because why would you not include king of hearts in the game?

i need to make a collage of iraon quotes and stick them on my wall so that if i'm feeling down i can look up and think, "it could be worse"

What? Maybe you disagree, but I think I will turn out to be right.

[iraonavp]

Untrod Tripod, why are you pretending that there is only one scum-aligned player left when there is probably two?

[iraonavp]

Some non-face card
Compulsive bodyguard
Night 1 muffin
Night 2 muffin
Night 3 maestro- for reasons that he pretty much summed up in 1399.

You have to tell us the card in case...

Also, curiouskarmadog is compulsive bodyguard same as I am.

[iraonavp]

File under mildly interesting and possibly relevant: the only relevant information I can find relating the term "viceroy" to playing cards is the fact that in historical pre-French-style playing card decks in Istanbul, the "King" was a card that outranked the "viceroy" cards, which were later replaced by the Queen (originally "viceroy") and the Jack ("second viceroy") in Italian/Spanish and French-style decks. For those not in-the-know, Italian and Spanish-style decks use the tarot-like suits of coins, cups, wands (or batons), and swords. French-style decks are the ones we use today, with ♤♧♡♢.

("Viceroy" and "Alice in Wonderland" seems to turn up nothing other than several reviews for a luxury hotel in Miami which may or may not still be in business.)

PEDIT: Oh look, claims. I'll get right on that snazzy formatting, shall I? Who's next, PV?

PEDIT2: What the fuck ira, you don't need to claim Scum dude.

What? I'm town-aligned...

[iraonavp]

i doubt ckd is a bodyguard but i guess we'll find out soon

Why did he say he wasn't a doctor and not to express town-aligned reads then?

[iraonavp]

maybe because he's not a doctor and feels it's better to not openly talk about town reads

No, because he knows all bodyguards die targeting the same target...

[iraonavp]

Okay, I will not post for 48 hours but I am immune to lynches in that time and I won't even respond if you ask me directly.

[iraonavp]

Ira came up guilty but yeah I'm paranoid

I know, it was really obvious that curiouskarmadog was town-aligned but the adults were talking...

I protected Maestro, because he is confirmed as town-aligned.

PeregrineV is clearly town-aligned now... And zMuffinMan is maybe town-aligned.

VOTE: kraska77

[iraonavp]

Also @maestro why irao when everyone wants his flip asap? Why delay his death

This is basically claiming that she is frustrated that I can't be mislynched any more... That's a really weird thing to think of, not natural at all.

Also, it is a slip because kraska77 knows I am town-aligned. Otherwise that point doesn't make any sense, you wouldn't berate or throw shade onto someone who'd just marked one of your scum-aligned reads for death, would you?

Otherwise, it would be Untrod Tripod. But I don't really think so...

[iraonavp]

VoteCount 2.5

DrippingGoofball [4] - Seraphim, kraska77, thenewearth x2
iraonavp [3] - zMuffinMan,

Katsuki, Froot Loop

Katsuki [8] - Vedith, DrippingGoofball, Ankamius, iraonavp, SirCakez, Untrod Tripod, PeregrineV, curiouskarmadog [LYNCH]

Not Voting [1]

- Spiffeh

With 15 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-08-29 15:00:00)

I would kind of like to lynch Iraonavp, but scum were trying to move the lynch from Kat to him.

Ankamius is also cleared in the same way...

[iraonavp]

We are 5:2 now.

and you...

you are probably the single worst mafia player i've ever had the mispleasure of being stuck in a game with. i don't think i've ever seen you help town in any way

first, let's examine the fact that there was almost zero chance maestro wasn't paranoid. the only time fakegod has run a cop in any of his recent games is kuribo in wonderland - a game where there were multiple cops of unknown sanity and the setup was known to include a godfather. outside of that? never done. he's run limited utility ones (including a novice one), variations of cop (like parity cop), etc, but never a full cop. let alone a full cop THAT CAN ALSO VIG HIS TARGETS. that's an insanely powerful role and not something any sane fucking mod includes in a setup. i explained yesterday that it was unlikely fakegod included a full cop on several fucking occasions. and oh, what happened next? you fucking stumble into the thread like "DURRRR LET'S LYNCH THE GUILTY HURRRR FUCKING DURRRRRRRRRR". good one, fuckwit

next, let's examine the chance we're at 5:2. there are NO town investigative roles. all of the town power roles (vigs and complusive bodyguards) are INHERENTLY ANTITOWN. there was a chance, albeit remote, that the game could have ended in a scum win n2, but even disregarding that, town has no real power, let alone power enough to fucking counter a bulletproof scum vig in a game where it wouldn't be strange for several town deaths to happen on any given night (and we got pretty lucky in that respect). this setup isn't fucking 13:4. it's 14:3. look at previous fakegod setups to get a good fucking idea of what sort of setups he runs. notice a fucking theme? he stacks power on low number scum teams or gives shitall power to higher number scum teams. all of the previous setups like this one have been 14:3 and guess what? scum won pretty much all of them, too. you think fakegod was like, "well, i know scum have been winning a lot of these 14:3 setups but fuck it... ima include one of them most insanely powerful scum roles ever created (bookie) and give them an extra player to boot. then i'm gonna gimp all the town power roles for shits and giggles"?

jesus fucking christ

You should relax, friend... It's just a game, you know...

[iraonavp]

So what do the people who want to actually play the game want to do? We could lynch muffins! Or iraon or ank. Or pv even! So many possibilities

Why are we assuming 5:2 pv?

How do we know we're 5:2 btw? Is that just a guess or....?

Okay, maybe they are both scum-aligned then...

[iraonavp]

Well, you are confirmed as town-aligned, but I never said I was... I am town-aligned, though!

[iraonavp]

What?

I know, but even innocent child is not confirmed as town-aligned because it could be a bastard game secretly...

[iraonavp]

Okay well that puts me in kind of an awkward position.

See, I know I'm town, so the fact that you're just putting your vote on me tells me that a. Mafia would let you live til endgame b. You'd vote me in LyLo

So that makes it hard for me to justify not voting you regardless of my read. I'll take my confirmed town status to me over your unconfirmed status. oh well. Sorry, dude, I was enjoying playing with you. Perhaps another time. I hope you don't flip town and this unpleasantness was just scum theater.

vote Muffin

Or, you could just vote kraska77 instead, so the game would be over...

[iraonavp]

Okay, bye zMuffinMan...

[iraonavp]

Convincing argument. Have you been following along, or are you going to ask for time to read?

Doesn't seem believable...

[iraonavp]

I know, what I meant is that your questioning of TellTaleHeart doesn't make sense because the slot is already confirmed as town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

kraska77 is scum-aligned because of an unbelievable stance on the validity of any bodyguard claims, inside the neighborhood.