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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:17 am

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Vote: Parama

I protest the policy of votes not counting before the game starts!
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:34 am

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In post 6, Fire Assassin wrote:My goal in this game is to get lynched day 1.
Can we make my goals a reality?
You'll have to work hard to make that happen.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:41 pm

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I see game start but not phone reading. See you tommorw
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:35 am

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In post 1564, RachMarie wrote:what the heck is a motion detector?
I think another site called them Fountain Watch. They basically target a player and can tell if they take a night action.

I think.
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 2107, RachMarie wrote:ahh Pere you do exist

get your butt in this game dude I need to peg you
I started reading 20 pages but then was like...nah.

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Post Post #2120 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:51 am

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Glance/skimmed CCC iso. What about them is supposed to be scummy?
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #6) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:11 am

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In post 2124, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 2120, PeregrineV wrote:Glance/skimmed CCC iso. What about them is supposed to be scummy?
Blatant contradictions in how they approached only one VT in a role madness theory.
No scumhunting.
Constant deflections from CCC.
No one townreads them yet it's like herding cats to get the votes.
At least Lapsa and Elitism have asked if I had a guilty and rolefished me, and no one batted an eye.
Scum are trying to decide whether to bus.

Join us PV, let's be BoP.
Apathy is strong this early in the 42 player game.
We have no more info today than yesterday.
I miss shos.

I might join later, if I can't find a better vanity wagon on someone I think is scummier than CCC.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:13 am

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Just form what I read, kind of agree with Kling here.

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Post Post #2152 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:24 am

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In post 2150, Bacde wrote:
In post 2116, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 2112, Bacde wrote:What did DGB do?
Allegedly claimed VT when not a VT.
Why not a VT? Why is she not a vt
Is CCC scum?
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:54 am

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@Bacde

In post 2152, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2150, Bacde wrote:
In post 2116, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 2112, Bacde wrote:What did DGB do?
Allegedly claimed VT when not a VT.
Why not a VT? Why is she not a vt
Is CCC scum?
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:58 am

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In post 2177, Bacde wrote:
In post 2173, PeregrineV wrote:
@Bacde

In post 2152, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2150, Bacde wrote:
In post 2116, Cookie Bakers wrote:
In post 2112, Bacde wrote:What did DGB do?
Allegedly claimed VT when not a VT.
Why not a VT? Why is she not a vt
Is CCC scum?
How would I know

I don't know who CCC is
Read their posts. Conclude *something*.
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Post Post #3175 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:26 am

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Vote: Townblock
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Post Post #4918 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:40 am

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In post 4728, Lapsa wrote:PeregrineV performed no action
I will confirm this.
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Post Post #4919 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:40 am

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In post 4734, Skelda wrote:
In post 4728, Lapsa wrote:PeregrineV performed no action
PeregrineV is also Not Vanilla.
I will also confirm this.
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Post Post #4921 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:41 am

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In post 4737, RachMarie wrote:I could definitely go for Pere scum
You would be wrong.
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Post Post #4923 (isolation #15) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:42 am

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In post 4739, iraonavp wrote:PeregrineV is not VT.

VOTE: Thor665

Don't believe his claim...
Are we just repeating ourselves, or did I just get a ton of love last night?
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Post Post #4926 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:57 am

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In post 4924, RachMarie wrote:umm you got lots of love last night because peeps were wondering if you had gone all unicorn on us :P

like are you actually there

and often when you are not there you be scumz

so yeah love your way makes sense.
Last week was just work busy, and weekends are rare.

Plus its 42 player game.
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Post Post #4927 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:59 am

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In post 4925, Boem_u_dusi wrote:PeregrineV, considering you were absent for most of the game I'd like you to claim and out your actions (if there were any).
I've been here the whole time.

I'm a neighbor, if that helps. My action is to post in my PT : "Hello?" every week or so.
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Post Post #4932 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:32 am

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In post 4928, RachMarie wrote:wow

LOL

so who is in your hood?
Steve the Miller
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Post Post #4935 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 4934, RachMarie wrote:wtf? Pere we dont have a player named Steve in the game seriously :facepalm:
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Post Post #5062 (isolation #20) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:07 am

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In post 5049, RachMarie wrote:Thor talk to me

About Gollum, about the other lurksacks, and about who on and off of boring's lynch wagon is likely to be scum.
If boring was the last red mafia, then what your asking for is not relevant. Town and bluescum are both trying to kill redscum.

Have you looked at CCC and townblock's isos and interactions?
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Post Post #5065 (isolation #21) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 5064, Elyse wrote:VOTE: hebichan

Why is this still getting away
You're giving up being #5 on a Thor wagon to start your own?

Why for?
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Post Post #5112 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:38 am

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Vote: Creature
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Post Post #5123 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 5120, Thor665 wrote:
In post 5110, RachMarie wrote:Gee thanks, I love you too :P
Nothing but love, but you know my opinion of your play.
That said, I'm being run up as confirmed scum who is lurking - by too many people to have it all be scum.
It's mind boggling.
Yeah, it's the new black.
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Post Post #5370 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:23 am

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In post 5369, Basic wrote:
In post 5339, Boem_u_dusi wrote:The kindest thing we can do for Basic/hebichan slot is to put it out of its misery.

VOTE: Basic

I still don't believe Thor665, but I don't want to repeat myself. I am distrustful of Lapsa as well for targeting Cookie Bakers on N2 (along with Drixx, who flipped town doc).
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH.

I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS TO BE A PITY LYNCH.
WTF?
I HAVE NOT READ AS MUCH AS I HAVE TO BE HUNG WITHOUT WARNING.
THAT IS NOT A KINDNESS.
I HAD JUST MESSAGED AN HOUR BEFORE THAT I WAS CONTINUING TO READ.

Yes it will take time to get through 200 pages, but its time im willing to put in.
I thought that much was clear.
I intend to continue, if thats ok with the crowd and i know im not going to be hung as a PITY LYNCH.
Ive been working the since the 4th and took yesterday for myself because when i got home in the morning i was REKT.
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Why vote for a pity lynch if you have genuine suspicions elsewhere?

Im not saying your scum btw. i havent read enough admittedly.

But if you have something you FEEL is lynchable for, please state it.
Otherwise, good sir, that vote is weak sauce.

WEAK SAUCE.
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Cant speak for Hebichan but i do plan on contributing if you give me time. Any votes on me in the interim are bullshit.
You've got someone now who is willing to go over EVERYTHING and give an opinion.
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Conclusion: Its pretty clear she's conf/town.
Im happy to vote with RachMarie for a bit.
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BTW. The answer to the SK/vig scenario is on page 16, post 391.
So its a vig and scumblueteam i assume. Because the back up vig Long Island Medium was shot no?
Anyway. Im taking the night off.
Probs read more tomorrow again, if not apparently lynched in the interim.
Iso the scum flips.
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Post Post #5373 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:48 am

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In post 5358, RachMarie wrote:Scummy play but that convoluted message with Kling and Shaz meh the claim man the claim
Mathblade
what is the actual claim?
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Post Post #5507 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:13 pm

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Anyone see any associatives with Creature?
On phone so hard to check right now.
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Post Post #5509 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:23 pm

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In post 5508, iraonavp wrote:He was basically lurking the whole time, Thor was probably bussing him though so then he looks more town-aligned. Because Creature is just a lurker goon, he is perfect bus material and Thor never gave any reasons why...
Looking At creature iOS, it looks like creature felt Thor had a result finding him guilty and wanted him lynched.
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Post Post #5566 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:32 am

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In post 1557, Wake1 wrote:
Official Vote Count
1.20


Hot Chocolate
(22): iraonavp,
Skybird, amalgam
, RachMarie,
DrippingGoofball
,
hebichan, serrapaladin
,
TownBlock
,
Foxbird
, Elyse, Boem_u_dusi, Varsoon,
Bacde, BlackStar
,
boring
, Lapsa,
Parama, Elitism,
Seraphim
,
Cookie Bakers
, Shaziro,
VA-11 Hall-A

Cookie Bakers
(3):
Drixx, Accountant
,
CCC

CCC
(2):
Creature
, Narna
Boem_u_dusi
(2): MathBlade,
Hot Chocolate

Parama
(1):
shos

Accountant
(1):
Fire Assassin

Seraphim
(1):
long_island_medium

VA-11 Hall-A
(1):
Klingoncelt

Varsoon
(1): Almost50

Not Voting
(8):
Blanche, PeregrineV
, AlpacaAlpaca/Thor,
Skelda
, Bellaphant/Gollum,
BBmolla
, Aeronaut/Vedith,
Egg


With 42 alive, it takes 22 to lynch.

Deadline
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Post Post #5649 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:45 am

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In post 5648, RachMarie wrote:we have had JOATS that had x shot vig shots,

where?

I see three flipped JOATs, no vigs amoung them.
Thor's claim didn't have a vig that I saw.
Lapsa didn't seem to have one either.
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Post Post #5653 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:53 am

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In post 5649, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5648, RachMarie wrote:we have had JOATS that had x shot vig shots,

where?

I see three flipped JOATs, no vigs amoung them.
Thor's claim didn't have a vig that I saw.
Lapsa didn't seem to have one either.
Forgot the 6th JOAT, Varsoon. I didn;t check if he had a vig claim.
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Post Post #5654 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:54 am

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In post 5652, MathBlade wrote:Rolefishing instead of reads* sorry brains crossed words

Got any reads PV? Or am I right to be skiddish of you?
Working on it.

Be skittish.
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Post Post #5657 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:54 am

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In post 5541, MathBlade wrote:CCC (19): Cookie Bakers, iraonavp, Foxbird, boring, Shaziro, VA-11 Hall-A, DrippingGoofball, Varsoon, Narna, Lapsa, TownBlock, Klingoncelt, Creature, Skelda, Elitism, Parama, Elyse, serrapaladin, Seraphim

TownBlock CCC and Creature are known blue scum

A common bussing tactic when scum is clearly caught is to throw as many people on to end the day as possible.

Iroanavp doesn't make sense to be blue scum from VCA and other things
This wagon has very few blue on the front meaning it is not a planned bus.
This is more evidence towards Iroanavp derp town.

What is more likely is blue scum saw the writing on the wall and flash lynched CCC to get it done.

Combining this with the convenient from Narna it is to set up a moment they could question me over my CCC townread because IMHO they knew I was scum.
Let's talk about this post.
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Post Post #5658 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:55 am

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In post 5655, Varsoon wrote:I am not a vigilante.
Need three players you think are scum.
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Post Post #5660 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 5659, RachMarie wrote:Thanks Shaz

Umm Var did you put in an action at all last night if so what?

Pere he claimed JOAT a while back
Who?
I know Varsoon did.
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Post Post #5662 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:04 am

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In post 5659, RachMarie wrote:Thanks Shaz

Umm Var did you put in an action at all last night if so what?

Pere he claimed JOAT a while back
Also, since Kling (and you, I presume) have been keeping track,

Is anyone still alive NOT a neighbor?

PeregrineV
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Post Post #5687 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:14 am

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In post 5676, RachMarie wrote:oops sorry add shaz to that list of course sorry about that

so yeah people in hoods still alive are:

shaz
Narna
Math
Vedith
and

Me
Me/Gollum are also in a hood.
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Post Post #5688 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:16 am

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In post 5684, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Gollum

Lapsa really isn't town here though.
Need some posts quoted tying him to Blue if you truly believe that. I couldn't find any.
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Post Post #5689 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:18 am

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In post 5686, Thor665 wrote:People are now taking pride in not knowing what is going on.
This might be the most obnoxious game I've ever played in.

Do some setup spec.

6 town JOATS?
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Post Post #5705 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 5704, Boem_u_dusi wrote:Lapsa could be scum, but he has a great taste in TV shows.
why could Lapsa be bluescum?
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Post Post #5905 (isolation #40) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:52 am

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I thought Red was already gone.

2 Blue in

Narna
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Post Post #5906 (isolation #41) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:52 am

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In post 5904, Shaziro wrote:
@Mod: Can scum perform a kill successfully on the same night as they are night killed?
Why wouldn't they?
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Post Post #5908 (isolation #42) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:53 am

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Also, Thor's flip has me eyeballing the JOAT claims.
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Post Post #5909 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 5900, RachMarie wrote:Ira has claimed neo

he was pushing thor over creature


PEDIT
plus his confession that was just quoted by Shaz yeah that too.
LOL, I thought he was joking...
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Post Post #5915 (isolation #44) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:08 am

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In post 5913, RachMarie wrote:hmm wow usually they do allow the last one standing to do both.

Missed that in Wake's OP

thanks

so odds are Thor did not kill last night and instead we had both a vig and an SK
Why wouln't Thor kill? He's a 6-shot JOAT on night 8. I think he would have used his things by now.
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Post Post #5924 (isolation #45) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:59 am

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In post 5919, Elyse wrote:
In post 5899, Shaziro wrote:
In post 5836, iraonavp wrote:Okay, I am blue-aligned then...

Red, you need to attack Boem_u_dusi. Trust us, we have worked out everyone's role by now, we know who you are. There is a good reason for this, it's necessary in order for either of us to win and you can work out why if you think about what already happened... We won't kill you, it's just shooting ourselves in the foot. I consider us to be purple-aligned, which is both red and blue united against the inferior primary color! We know there is extremely minimal risk for you to kill Boem_u_dusi, and town-aligned players will for sure win unless you do it...

Vigilante, no reason to even try... We have doctor to heal me!
This is why. He even ended it with a good reason to lynch over vig!
lol

VOTE: iraonavp

Why is PerV not scum?
If you are voting one blue scum, and we expect another blueJOATscum, which scum would I be?
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Post Post #5937 (isolation #46) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:05 am

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In post 5936, RachMarie wrote:still that makes 3 blue or 4? that have flipped I guess I need to look at the OP again uggh
4

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Post Post #5999 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:55 am

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There is one blue scum.

Pretty sure the SK is BP, and scum know who it is, and have shot them multiple times.

My choice for last blue scum is Lapsa.

My choice for SK is Elyse.
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Post Post #6005 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:42 am

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In post 5684, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Gollum

Lapsa really isn't town here though.
In post 5711, iraonavp wrote:That makes Lapsa confirmed as town-aligned because there were no fewer kills... Why else would he target Cookie Bakers other than to heal?
In post 5714, iraonavp wrote:Thor slipped! He is only voting Creature because he expects to get lynched... He had no reasons to vote Creature, the vote was entirely for show.
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Post Post #6006 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 5984, Narna wrote:But I'm a role modifier guys!
I thought you had already claimed something. Where was that?
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Post Post #6009 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:10 am

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In post 1557, Wake1 wrote:
Official Vote Count
1.20


Hot Chocolate
(22):
iraonavp
,
Skybird, amalgam
,
RachMarie
,
DrippingGoofball
,
hebichan, serrapaladin
,
TownBlock
,
Foxbird
, Elyse,
Boem_u_dusi, Varsoon
,
Bacde, BlackStar
,
boring
, Lapsa,
Parama, Elitism,
Seraphim
,
Cookie Bakers
,
Shaziro
,
VA-11 Hall-A

Cookie Bakers
(3):
Drixx, Accountant
,
CCC

CCC
(2):
Creature
, Narna
Boem_u_dusi
(2): MathBlade,
Hot Chocolate

Parama
(1):
shos

Accountant
(1):
Fire Assassin

Seraphim
(1):
long_island_medium

VA-11 Hall-A
(1):
Klingoncelt

Varsoon
(1): Almost50

Not Voting
(8):
Blanche, PeregrineV
,
AlpacaAlpaca/Thor
,
Skelda
,
Bellaphant/Gollum
,
BBmolla
,
Aeronaut/Vedith
,
Egg


With 42 alive, it takes 22 to lynch.

Deadline
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Post Post #6017 (isolation #51) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 6011, RachMarie wrote:And Pere you are not confirmed town dude
Fortunately, all of my scumhunting will take my own role into account, so you can do what you need to, but you can save yourself a lot of time and trouble and work with me.
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Post Post #6018 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 6012, RachMarie wrote:PeregrineV
Narna claimed role modifier
RachMarie Conf Town last mason standing
Elyse
Lapsa claimed JOAT
Almost50
Mathblade claimed Macho
I am/was Neighbor with Gollum
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Post Post #6030 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:33 am

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In post 6023, Narna wrote:The town has spoken. I'm cool with Lapsa being the lynch. I think PV should share any info he just hinted at having this late in the game.
You mean all this?
In post 4918, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4728, Lapsa wrote:PeregrineV performed no action
I will confirm this.
In post 4919, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4734, Skelda wrote:
In post 4728, Lapsa wrote:PeregrineV performed no action
PeregrineV is also Not Vanilla.
I will also confirm this.
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Post Post #6038 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:48 am

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In post 6035, Narna wrote:Only the enlightened shall know. You may keep your vote on me.

I plan to vote in a pool of Lapsa, Elyse, and a50. I want to hear from Elyse though.

@PV I must've misinterpreted this.
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Fortunately, all of my scumhunting will take my own role into account, so you can do what you need to, but you can save yourself a lot of time and trouble and work with me.
It's telling Rach that I am town, that I won't self-scumhunt, and she can save time and energy by treating me as such.
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Post Post #6039 (isolation #55) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:49 am

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In post 6038, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6035, Narna wrote:Only the enlightened shall know. You may keep your vote on me.

I plan to vote in a pool of Lapsa, Elyse, and a50. I want to hear from Elyse though.

@PV I must've misinterpreted this.
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In post 6011, RachMarie wrote:And Pere you are not confirmed town dude
Fortunately, all of my scumhunting will take my own role into account, so you can do what you need to, but you can save yourself a lot of time and trouble and work with me.
It's telling Rach that I am town, that I won't self-scumhunt, and she can save time and energy by treating me as such.
@Narna- If your town, then it goes for you too.
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Post Post #6040 (isolation #56) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:50 am

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In post 6034, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6031, Narna wrote:
In post 6026, Almost50 wrote:Oh! I misread that 2nd quote then.

Still, Math is not flipped, so you can't say this is how irao defended a scum buddy.

I'm going after the SK bc you are more dangerous now. No way Lapsa survives after you flip, and even if he doesn't get shot by the vig he is th clear designated lynch of tomorrow if things stay the way they are.

You on the other hand have been cruising, and -at one point- had me move you from a scumspect to semi-confirmed town. You're a very good manipulator.
Math is my townbuddy, he defended blue scum by targeting another blue scum d2.

If you misread the quote, what's the reason I'm scummy now then?
PoE. You or Elyse for the SK. Lapsa for the Blue JOAT.
there is a large consensus of you as the SK.
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Post Post #6048 (isolation #57) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:15 am

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In post 6022, RachMarie wrote:PeregrineV claimed neighbor with gollum
Narna
RachMarie Conf Town last mason standing
Elyse
Lapsa claimed JOAT
Almost50
Mathblade claimed Macho

so basically that means almost, Elyse, and Narna have no claims

And there is one JOAT that has claimed

and JOAT is very likely what we are looking for here


VOTE: Lapsa
Narna claimed neighbor I think too. not sure if anything else real.
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Post Post #6052 (isolation #58) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:25 am

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In post 6045, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6040, PeregrineV wrote:there is a large consensus of you as the SK.
Well, I'm NOT. Go figure. I'm officially SK hunting, and for a good reason.

Also, let me ask a hypothetical question: If I was cleared of carrying a gun on N1, and have been lurking in the shadows for the opening 5 days or so, and -HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING- you had a Tracker/Follower ability, wouldn't you have been inclined to track/follow me to verify I had not night action just to be sure? You think the Town full Tracker, full Follower, Voyeur, Motion Detector & Jailkeeper, plus all the JOATs who all had shots of said action.. ALL missed me? NONE of them tried to check on me?? Would YOU not have done it?
If they checked you and got something to confirm you did or did not do something, then they would/should/could post it.

My guess is they found others scummier than you at the time, and so decided not to check you.

If you are gun cleared, then you could be the SK, or a JOAT with non-gun powers, or just town with no gun.

Does anyone else have any results regarding you that you or they want to share?
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Post Post #6053 (isolation #59) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:27 am

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In post 6051, Elyse wrote:Hi I need to read the last few phases comprehensively. I've been kind of just tagging along cause we've had so many guilties and expecting to die some night but it hasn't happened. So that's my fault.

I don't get what's going on with Narna/Math but hoping they'll be able to confirm each other. Rach still being alive either means she's going down the wrong path or scum/SK expect the other team to kill her.

I want to lynch Lapsa > PerV > A50 in that order.

Can someone explain why PerV isn't being considered? I may have missed that.
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Post Post #6054 (isolation #60) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 6050, Almost50 wrote:Well, I'm not going to ask you to fully claim. What I am going to ask though is for you to confirm or deny having any unclaimed info (whether it be by virtue of your own role or conveyed to you through the neighbourhood) that may help limit our options for the SK.

Put another way, can you clear at least one person (other than Rach, obviously)?
Actually, everybody should do this, if they haven't already.
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Post Post #6055 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:40 am

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In post 3264, Wake1 wrote:

If a Mafia faction is eliminated, it will be announced in-game.

Why did no one point this out to me days ago?
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Post Post #6057 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:52 am

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In post 6056, RachMarie wrote:umm we did say red was gone after Thor flipped it was in the day start post

was kind of surprised there was one red left actually which is why I did not think Thor was scum.
I started day 7 thinking all the red scum were gone.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8298050
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Post Post #6059 (isolation #63) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:57 am

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In post 6056, RachMarie wrote:umm we did say red was gone after Thor flipped it was in the day start post

was kind of surprised there was one red left actually which is why I did not think Thor was scum.

Anyways, you need to organize the fullclaim list.

I recommend starting with Lapsa, then,

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Post Post #6061 (isolation #64) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:03 am

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In post 6060, Elyse wrote:
In post 6053, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6051, Elyse wrote:Hi I need to read the last few phases comprehensively. I've been kind of just tagging along cause we've had so many guilties and expecting to die some night but it hasn't happened. So that's my fault.

I don't get what's going on with Narna/Math but hoping they'll be able to confirm each other. Rach still being alive either means she's going down the wrong path or scum/SK expect the other team to kill her.

I want to lynch Lapsa > PerV > A50 in that order.

Can someone explain why PerV isn't being considered? I may have missed that.
I've softed town.
What does that mean

Yeah one of the things to look for with the last blue scum is if anyone suggested there were more red after 5 of them died.
This makes no sense given the mod's post 3264.

If 5 red scum died, and the mod did not announce it in-thread, then there are more red scum (and there was-Thor).
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Post Post #6064 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:12 am

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In post 6062, RachMarie wrote:I actually missed that with the fact Wake got incredibly busy and the backup mod took over
Yeah, me too. But i don't think anyone pointed it out.
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Post Post #6065 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:13 am

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@Rach-
In post 6059, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6056, RachMarie wrote:umm we did say red was gone after Thor flipped it was in the day start post

was kind of surprised there was one red left actually which is why I did not think Thor was scum.

Anyways, you need to organize the fullclaim list.

I recommend starting with Lapsa, then,

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Post Post #6091 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 6088, Lapsa wrote:by the looks - i'm up against the wall

taking input from everybody - including my scumreads



no more trolling, willing to explain every read/vote there is
Why did you select your targets you did each given night?
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Post Post #6092 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:09 am

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In post 6067, RachMarie wrote:no it was not brought up until thor died


PEDIT

Ok lets popcorn

starting with Lapsa we know you are a JOAT we need your actions now.
No need to popcorn- we'll do it in the order you want.

If you use my list, Elyse needs to full claim next.
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Post Post #6104 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 6103, Narna wrote:I think it's you according to the list, but I don't mind. The role is useless at this point and I doubt I would be a nk target.

Deputy/Neighbor

I was laying low in the first half of the game in an effort to outlive the cop. I gave up on that after Skelda died, and I didn't inherit the vanilla cop. I made some illogical leaps to peg Math as macho cop instead of macho neighbor.
Who is your neighbor again?
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Post Post #6149 (isolation #70) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:45 am

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I have training all day today, so won't be back until later or tomorrow.

I am town vig.

night1 I shot Blanche.
I was looking for scum among the lurkers using the activity page. I was confused the next morning, since I had submitted a kill on kraska, who had like 5 posts. Turns out he was part of the Blanche hydra.

night2 I shot Foxbird
Once again, looking for scum trying to not post in a 42 player game

night3 I shot Seraphim
12 posts after 3 days, but I got lucky and shot scum.

night4 I shot Skybird
Low posting, which I partially attributed to scum meta, plus ISO looked dodgy.

night5 I did not shoot
The days/nights were happening quickly, and I didn't have time to research a good shot, so I skipped it. We had blue and red flips, and until we knew the mafia size, I wanted to start making more informed shots.

night6 I shot Serrapaladin
Didn't like the iso and seemed to be trying to fly under the radar.

night7 I shot Creature
When I isoed him, he seem to be softing some sort of role, but didn't seem to have any actual contributions. Plus, Basic flipped town, and I thought both were scum.

night8 I shot vedith
Low posts, bad iso, everyone else was more townish.

Elyse claim covers the 2 extra kills.
I haven't gone through the other claims to compare to kills, but based on Eylse, I don't think there is an SK anymore. There would be too many missing kills/crosskills/protects for there to be 4 killing roles each night.

Right now I thinkg Lapsa is blue scum because of JOAT, but Narna-scum because of worst claim ever.

Anyways, I'll be back later to catch up and answer questions.

We should be able to deduce Red/Blue kills on most of the nights.
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Post Post #6167 (isolation #71) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:05 am

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In post 6154, Lapsa wrote:
In post 5999, PeregrineV wrote:
Pretty sure the SK is BP
, and scum know who it is, and have shot them multiple times.

My choice for last blue scum is Lapsa.

My choice for SK
is Elyse.
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In post 6149, PeregrineV wrote: I haven't gone through the other claims to compare to kills,
but based on Eylse, I don't think there is an SK anymore.
There would be too many missing kills/crosskills/protects for there to be 4 killing roles each night.
== total clusterfuck
It's math. the number of kills is not consistent with an SK. it does match her claim.
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Post Post #6168 (isolation #72) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 6155, MathBlade wrote:I think I want to hear who Peregrine V thinks is scum first. Lapsa was in my two before the claim but based on how this is laid out I want to see what PeregrineV's reads are before doing anything.

May be able to ferret if right before we lynch. Don't want to go forward without everyone's reads on paper.
Lapsa first, because I think JOAT is too juicy for scum to NOT claim it.

then maybe Narna for the claim. We don't have a cop. Sure, it could be Wake messing with us, but there you have it.
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Post Post #6169 (isolation #73) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:09 am

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In post 6159, RachMarie wrote:yes that is a good idea especially since I seriously doubt I will be still here if we are wrong and there is still a SK
There should be no inappropriate pity party. I'm not shooting anymore. Almost50 should protect no one but you. He has to die before you do.
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Post Post #6170 (isolation #74) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:10 am

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In post 6161, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6147, Lapsa wrote:@a50 why are you favoring SK lynch over blue lynch?
Because I'm a doctor and I may be able to save the Mafia kill target. I cannot stop the SK though bc they are Strongman as evident by the Shaziro kill whom I was protecting. I thought I explained that already in my post addressing Rach.
Most likely you were blocked. There is no SK, and I'm not a strongman.
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Post Post #6171 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:13 am

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In post 6164, Almost50 wrote:WoW! Your low profile has been pretty useful for once :lol:

But are you a "strongman" vig?? I've never seen one before, but how do you explain Shaziro?
I don't have to, you do.

In post 6164, Almost50 wrote: In fact:

VOTE: PV

THERE is your strongman, ladies and gentleman. Waiting for last to conveniently claim Vig, claim all his kills accurately, and refute the SK being in-play altogether.

No way there's an X-shot Vig with another full vig. NO WAY.


P-edit:

I was mainly addressing Rach and explaining why we need to find the SK sooner than later.
Gee, why did I wait until last to accurately claim all my night actions?

I probably knew who I was dealing with, and how they would react.
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Post Post #6172 (isolation #76) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:17 am

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Vote: Lapsa

:up:
The intelligent lynch of the day.

Now, lunch is over, let's see where the game is after work....
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Post Post #6175 (isolation #77) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:23 am

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In post 6173, MathBlade wrote:Nope. We need less kills.

Let's assume you are the town vig.

Then tomorrow it is 1 scum 5 alive.

Let's assume you are the SK and we lynch you same answer.

Let's assume you are the SK and we don't lynch you and lynch scum and the game doesn't end.

1 SK remains >> you GG no re.

Let's assume you are the SK and we lynch town.

1 v 4 with two scum left and the two towns have to lynch the other townie and hope scum cross kill.

Objectively lynching you is the best thing we can do.
There is no SK. There is not enough kills for an SK,
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Just saying.
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Post Post #6176 (isolation #78) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:25 am

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In post 6174, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6170, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 6161, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6147, Lapsa wrote:@a50 why are you favoring SK lynch over blue lynch?
Because I'm a doctor and I may be able to save the Mafia kill target. I cannot stop the SK though bc they are Strongman as evident by the Shaziro kill whom I was protecting. I thought I explained that already in my post addressing Rach.
Most likely you were blocked. There is no SK, and I'm not a strongman.
Blocked by whom?? Check the claims again and keep in mind there's a max of fake claims. Now let's assume Lapsa is JOAT with a Roleblocker shot and he did block me. Where did the OTHER kills come from? In fact, forget Lapsa. Assume ANYONE is a Roleblocker or has a RB shot and used it on me. That would only mean ONE NK left, bc they could not have RB'd AND killed in the same night as per the rules.

So, NO. I was NOT RB'd bc there has been TWO NKs, which means Blue Scum opted to perform a KILL over taking any other action (if they still have unused shots).
Gee, doc, it seems like you have my kills and you have Elyse's kills and a brain.

Figure out the kills for each mafia.

I'll go learn CPR.
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Post Post #6457 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:55 am

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In post 6439, Boem_u_dusi wrote:WP Elyse

still think lynching PeregrineV was asinine

I concur!!!
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Post Post #6460 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:02 am

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In post 6456, RachMarie wrote:Pere I am sorry I actually pmed smith after I realized I had hammered instead of putting you at L-1

You were so lurky even when not on vla and just not as invested as I have seen you as town and I was sure there was a SK no matter how many times Math said there wasnt, and even you said the shots did not match up.

None of the JOATS had a vig role or a killing role other than the maf faction kill, so I knew there had to be 2 maf teams a town vig and a SK. I was thinking you might have been the SK but I did not mean to hammer you like that.
Early game was mostly picking off the lowest votecounts. After the first 2 nights the kills slowed down, so no reason to think an SK existed. Thor no-shooting threw me.

I was better off reading and not commenting as much, since I could do my voting at night.

There actually shouldn't have been enough votes on me FOR you to hammer, but shoulda woulda coulda.
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