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Post Post #9463 (isolation #400) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:27 am

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Thinking TFL and S_S are most likely town here, MoI comes after.
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Post Post #9464 (isolation #401) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:27 am

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I am looking to ally with someone trustable.
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Post Post #9465 (isolation #402) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:27 am

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Oh right, random + MoI are gems.
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Post Post #9466 (isolation #403) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:27 am

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Then what is farside?
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Post Post #9469 (isolation #404) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:30 am

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In post 9462, Almost50 wrote:you didn't understand the counter for defusing the Cluster you say?!
Story:

I saw something about it.
Didn't understand it.
Decided to ignore it for now.
Game went very fast paced.
I forgot about it.
Had actually no idea it was there.
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Post Post #9471 (isolation #405) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:32 am

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You say he could be a scum vig?
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Post Post #9476 (isolation #406) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:42 am

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idk, I don't agree with TFL/Shadow being scum.
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Post Post #9477 (isolation #407) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:43 am

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In post 9462, Almost50 wrote:Fuzzy bc he clearly could not have just forgotten to vote in Beachabalooza after having been reminded of it TWICE by grapes in their PT.
Just actually wondering this.
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Post Post #9483 (isolation #408) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:16 am

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I don't see how TWIE can't be lying about being a vig, he could be claiming that to explain the GS result on him.
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Post Post #9486 (isolation #409) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:19 am

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Simply my presence in the game, doesn't I look my more active there?
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Post Post #9487 (isolation #410) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:20 am

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Welp idk then
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Post Post #9492 (isolation #411) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:33 am

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No, I decided to not talk about it because I wanted to test the possibility of my target fakeclaiming. Also didn't really trust Xk or S_S.
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Post Post #9502 (isolation #412) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:28 am

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In post 9494, Almost50 wrote:
In post 9490, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Almost – I forgot to ask earlier – did your Night action bear any fruit? I would have expected to see something from you on it but have to ask.
And I meant to say something but didn't know how to do it w/o outing myself, but things have changed.

The profile Creature has is mine, and the false one is #2. Creature did NOT perform an action last night.

As for me: The event is used up already (Joy Ride). The passive rewards you & RR already know about (of those living) but I suspect the whole scum team would also know since I allied with SC on E1.

The action you and RR also know about (but nobody else should have bc I told nobody except you two). It's a 1-shot ability though that gets refunded on Season Finale. It was used previously on McMenno showing he didn't "perform a HARMFUL action", while on Creature it says he "didn't perform ANY actions"
The result was on randomidget though.
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Post Post #9503 (isolation #413) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:30 am

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I would vote TWIE, but farside22's ability makes me hesitate.
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Post Post #9504 (isolation #414) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:31 am

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Guess you aren't paranoid because you're a crystal gem and you can win with mafia anyway.
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Post Post #9507 (isolation #415) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:33 am

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Could go for Shiro then.
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Post Post #9509 (isolation #416) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:35 am

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In post 9461, Creature wrote:
In post 9176, Creature wrote:So last scum would be between Shiro/randomidget/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds/MagnaofIllusion/Shadow_step
randomidget and MagnaofIllusion are Crystal Gems

farside22 is what?

Leaving Shiro, TheFuzzyLogic99, TheWayItEnds and Shadow_step
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Post Post #9511 (isolation #417) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:37 am

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Why would I blatantly lie as scum?
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Post Post #9515 (isolation #418) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:40 am

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I think it was a redirect.
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Post Post #9518 (isolation #419) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:42 am

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I am Ronaldo Fryman, I do these blog posts.
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Post Post #9520 (isolation #420) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:42 am

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I must do them everyday otherwise I'll lose that ability. The mod slightly edits it to make private info incorrect.
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Post Post #9521 (isolation #421) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:43 am

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I also have a 1-shot of the ability to investigate someone. I'll get 1/4 of the info correct, if the stress is high, I'll get 3/4.
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Post Post #9522 (isolation #422) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:43 am

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In Season Finale, I get another shot of that ability.
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Post Post #9523 (isolation #423) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:44 am

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I have an event that can be triggered at 3+ stress (priority: 3) where I film a documentary, I find the nature of the Crystal Gems and the Crystal Gems know I know their nature.
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Post Post #9527 (isolation #424) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:48 am

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I wanted to get the stress to 3+
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Post Post #9528 (isolation #425) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:49 am

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What can I get from four pieces of info in which only 1 is correct?
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Post Post #9532 (isolation #426) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:50 am

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I wanted to claim what I wanted, not entirely.
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Post Post #9535 (isolation #427) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:52 am

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Whenever I am lurking, nobody wants to lynch me.

Whenever I am active, people want to lynch me.
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Post Post #9536 (isolation #428) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:54 am

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Pregame: Blog post and allied with Snarky.
Night 1: Blog post and tried to ally with Shiro.
Night 2: Blog post and allied with SnarkySnowman.
Night 3: Investigated randomidget, blog post and allied with Shadow_step and Xkfyu.
Night 4: Blog post and tried to ally with grapes.
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Post Post #9537 (isolation #429) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:54 am

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aka I think the blog post doesn't count as an action. Snarky was a compulsively ally roleblocker.
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Post Post #9539 (isolation #430) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

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Oh nvm, I forgot my investigation on random succeeded.
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Post Post #9540 (isolation #431) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 9538, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9535, Creature wrote:Whenever I am lurking, nobody wants to lynch me.

Whenever I am active, people want to lynch me.
For the record, basically every individual I've had an alliance with has wanted to lynch you, you were just never a priority.

-Cerb
And then when I started trying to push the game, everybody had me as top priority.
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Post Post #9541 (isolation #432) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:55 am

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I wanted to ally with someone trustable there.
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Post Post #9545 (isolation #433) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:58 am

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I don't see why scum would lie about being Crystal Gems.
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Post Post #9546 (isolation #434) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:59 am

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In post 9544, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9540, Creature wrote:
In post 9538, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 9535, Creature wrote:Whenever I am lurking, nobody wants to lynch me.

Whenever I am active, people want to lynch me.
For the record, basically every individual I've had an alliance with has wanted to lynch you, you were just never a priority.

-Cerb
And then when I started trying to push the game, everybody had me as top priority.
Sorta what happens when people slot you as scum, and you do nothing to change their mind, then suddenly show up and remind them that you exist. :p

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I do this likely every game. If you think it's a scum tell, it's the same as saying one-liners or putting itself in its readslist are scum tells.
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Post Post #9550 (isolation #435) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:02 am

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Alliances?
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Post Post #9552 (isolation #436) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:03 am

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Also, I forgot to say the ability I used on randomidget only works when I'm in an alliance.
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Post Post #9556 (isolation #437) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:05 am

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In post 9550, Creature wrote:Alliances?
Huh? I thought the night started with +3 stress?
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Post Post #9558 (isolation #438) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:06 am

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I'll ask the mod about that.
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Post Post #9561 (isolation #439) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:08 am

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It's strange though, I'm pretty sure there was a night that started as Tragic Destiny.
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Post Post #9562 (isolation #440) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:09 am

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No, I allied with randomidget on Pregame but the alliance was open during Day 1 and Night 1.
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Post Post #9564 (isolation #441) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:11 am

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Welp, I misunderstood things, there were never any Tragic Destiny.
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Post Post #9565 (isolation #442) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:12 am

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So 1/4 of these is correct.
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Post Post #9578 (isolation #443) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:49 am

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No, I actually submit an alliance request to randomidget during Pregame.

Then the Alliance PT opened Day 1 and Night 1.

Same applies for the other allies I stated, I sent an alliance request that night.
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Post Post #9579 (isolation #444) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:50 am

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I mean't randomidget there.
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Post Post #9580 (isolation #445) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:51 am

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In post 9574, kraskaesque wrote:
In post 9572, Almost50 wrote:
In post 9562, Creature wrote:No, I allied with randomidget on Pregame but the alliance was open during Day 1 and Night 1.
??? Pregame had no active alliances! It would have required a (pre-)pregame phase for you to have picked an ally in pregame.

So, what you're saying is your alliance with random was during pregame and ended with the start of episode 1, then on E1 you were allied with Snarky, then you allied with Shiro on E2, then allied with Snarky AGAIN on E3 (even after you KNEW he was a passive roleblocker), then you allied with Xf+Shadow on E4, then you submitted a request to ally with grapes for E5 which didn't work so you're not allied today.

VOTE: Creature

I also find it highly unlikely the mod would edit your blog to include "incorrect info" as this would be the mod directly lying to us. I could see him redacting certain parts, but "to make private info incorrect." as you put it in is a bit stretching it.
i vaguely remember a "mod lies" crumb in one of the blog posts way way back
Was referring to the fact that mod edits my messages.
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Post Post #9582 (isolation #446) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:52 am

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There's no scum flavor for Keep Beach City Weird Blog, I'm pratically conftown;
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Post Post #9584 (isolation #447) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:53 am

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9536 isn't a lie, I just accidentally wrote Snarky rather than random.
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Post Post #9586 (isolation #448) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:59 am

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idk, just to make sure, this is what I received (can't copy-paste):
randomidget has an event that can be triggered at 1 or + stress.
randomidget is selectively nightkill immune.
randomidget can secretly offer rewards to his allies.
randomidget can discover info on other player's actions.
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Post Post #9588 (isolation #449) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:00 am

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If for some reason it's a lie, either something affected my result or the setup was broken and you should shout on Varsoon.
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Post Post #9590 (isolation #450) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:02 am

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I think selectively might mean he can select himself to be bulletproof.
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Post Post #9593 (isolation #451) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:04 am

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No idea. Setup forcing me into this doesn't make me a bad town.
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Post Post #9601 (isolation #452) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:12 am

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In post 9595, Reasonably Rational wrote:Creature can you please summarize your claim? You said you could investigate the gems in some way? Have you? What did you find out? If you haven't, what WOULD you find out?

@MoI - What would he need to be able to say about you guys to convince you? (Think about it because I see no reason why scum would have any need to investigate the gems whereas there are big question marks for us, which every time we bring up causes you to subtly OMGUS us).

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It'll announce I filmed a documentary.
The event will swing stress 3 points to Slice of Life
I'll learn the nature of the Crystal Gems and the Crystal Gems will learn that I know their nature.
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Post Post #9602 (isolation #453) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:12 am

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I didn't do it yet.
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Post Post #9603 (isolation #454) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:13 am

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In post 9598, Almost50 wrote:
In post 9586, Creature wrote:idk, just to make sure, this is what I received (can't copy-paste):
randomidget has an event that can be triggered at 1 or + stress.
randomidget is selectively nightkill immune.
randomidget can secretly offer rewards to his allies.
randomidget can discover info on other player's actions.
So, your "result" had the name of randomidget EXPLICITLY mentioned in it, and you still suggested it could've been a redirect???????? :!: :!: :!:
Would Varsoon put someone else's name so I know whether I was redirected or not?
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Post Post #9604 (isolation #455) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 9596, MagnaofIllusion wrote:If Connie-fake claim can actually be scum (which you point out that people bought) then why does Creature think his blog whatever confirms him as town and couldn't just as easily be a scum ability that matches his fake-claim?
Same can be said about Titus confirming herself as town could easily be a scum ability that matches her fakeclaim.
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Post Post #9607 (isolation #456) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:18 am

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Okay, my investigative ability is one shot and only usable when I'm in an Alliance. I'll learn four abilities, three incorrect one incorrect. If the stress is 3 or higher, three will be correct, one incorrect. During the Season Finale I'll be refunded another shot of this ability.
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Post Post #9608 (isolation #457) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:19 am

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Okay then.
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Post Post #9609 (isolation #458) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:22 am

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If it turns out be a mod error, I'll just not include this game in my wiki.
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Post Post #9613 (isolation #459) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:32 am

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Still think I'm a bad town? I checked a lot of times, it says randomidget, so if it's a lie, it wasn't because I misunderstand, it's because the setup screwed me.

But I don't think you're going to catch up on that anyway even if I flip town.
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Post Post #9614 (isolation #460) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:32 am

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Okay, then push that stress to 3+
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Post Post #9615 (isolation #461) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:33 am

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But still think this will be another TTH Summer Mafia where the setup screws me. And like my wiki says, I never won any game where I was lynched, so scum will automatically win.
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Post Post #9616 (isolation #462) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:34 am

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Who will actually want to put stress at 3+?
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Post Post #9619 (isolation #463) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:43 am

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I didn't know what to do at the time, I didn't expect many players to die and the stress to go so low.
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Post Post #9624 (isolation #464) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:02 am

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If the Crystal Gems and Leftovers can win with mafia, we're possibly in LyLo today.
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Post Post #9625 (isolation #465) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:04 am

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Anyone remember whom the Crystal Gems and the Leftovers allied with?
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Post Post #9626 (isolation #466) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:05 am

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Nvm, if there are 3 scum left, it's basically overkill for town.
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Post Post #9633 (isolation #467) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:21 pm

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Is stress increase still possible not considering town lynches?
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Post Post #9640 (isolation #468) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:15 pm

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idk, I have the feeling TWIE is a better lynch.
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Post Post #9676 (isolation #469) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:19 am

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I think my results are supposed to be 1/4 accurate from DGB's flip.
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Post Post #9677 (isolation #470) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:22 am

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In post 9671, Randomnamechange wrote:Read the flavour, we are the ones fighting the mafia.
MoI says flavour doesn't matter.
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Post Post #9680 (isolation #471) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:56 am

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I don't know what Crystal Gems are then, if they are town, why would they be named under a Crystal Gems win condition over Earth win condition?
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Post Post #9681 (isolation #472) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:57 am

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In post 9680, Creature wrote:I don't know what Crystal Gems are then, if they can only win with town, why would they be named under a Crystal Gems win condition over Earth win condition?
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Post Post #9683 (isolation #473) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:00 am

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So basically town with an extra win condition?
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Post Post #9685 (isolation #474) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:06 am

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Meh, yeah, there are too many Crystal Gems to let them win with scum (unless scum is underpowered).
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Post Post #9687 (isolation #475) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:08 am

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Shadow_Step
Almost50
- Beach-a-palooza
Shiro
Farside22
- Beach-a-palooza, though, can win with scum
Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx)
- Beach-a-palooza
grapes
- Beach-a-palooza
mastin2
- Beach-a-palooza
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lyncanfire)
MagnaofIllusion
- Crystal Gem
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- Crystal Gem
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Post Post #9688 (isolation #476) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:09 am

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Assuming farside22 needs to be lynched, our PoE is: Shadow_step, Shiro, farside22, kraskaesque, TheFuzzylogic99, Creature and TheWayItEnds.

This list takes up 7/13 of the players.
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Post Post #9689 (isolation #477) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:09 am

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There's also the worry that scum could've coordinated one of themselves to look town in Beach-a-palooza.
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Post Post #9691 (isolation #478) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:11 am

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I think kraskaesque is most likely town in that list, Shadow comes next.
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Post Post #9693 (isolation #479) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:16 am

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Shadow, what's your opinion on leaving farside22 alive?
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Post Post #9695 (isolation #480) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:24 am

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Yeah, can't feel safe when MoI is attacking someone outside the PoE pool.
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Post Post #9697 (isolation #481) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:28 am

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Why not RR?
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Post Post #9699 (isolation #482) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:32 am

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Shadow_Step
Almost50
- Beach-a-palooza
Shiro
Farside22
- Beach-a-palooza, though, can win with scum
Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx)
- Beach-a-palooza
grapes
- Beach-a-palooza
mastin2
- Beach-a-palooza
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lyncanfire)
- Beach-a-palooza
MagnaofIllusion
- Crystal Gem
TheFuzzylogic99
Creature
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- Crystal Gem
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Post Post #9701 (isolation #483) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:34 am

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It's not even fluff though.
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Post Post #9703 (isolation #484) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:36 am

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In post 9702, MagnaofIllusion wrote:The strength of Beach-a-palooza is that the math is rock solid and can't be manipulated to "look Town".

I also laugh at how RR is cleared by you via Beach-a-palooza when they clearly aren't.
You actually said a reason RR is cleared in your first statement.
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Post Post #9705 (isolation #485) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:39 am

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How many scum could've voted mastin2 to make her sum up 7 points?
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Post Post #9707 (isolation #486) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:42 am

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I doubt there's more than 6 scum.

One scum died early. Therefore up to 4 scum could've voted farside22 (as there's no .5 in the number of votes).
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Post Post #9708 (isolation #487) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:43 am

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Also, scum doesn't have much coordination there as all PTs were locked, right?
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Post Post #9710 (isolation #488) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:09 am

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In post 9709, MagnaofIllusion wrote:6 total scum including DGB or not?
Including DGB.
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Post Post #9711 (isolation #489) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:10 am

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In post 9709, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Don't think so. I didn't have an Alliance that day but I know the Crystal Gems PT was open. I assume other PTs were also.
Nvm, must've confused.
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Post Post #9712 (isolation #490) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:11 am

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Still think we should go after the non-topwagoners first, it's possible all scum are there.
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Post Post #9715 (isolation #491) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:17 am

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Still want to see what others think about farside22 before voting TWIE.
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Post Post #9717 (isolation #492) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:35 am

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VOTE: TWIE

Bah whatever, that's taking too long
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Post Post #9718 (isolation #493) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:36 am

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farside22

Can you confirm if you don't quintuple vote TWIE?
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Post Post #9721 (isolation #494) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:47 am

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Because farside can win with scum.
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Post Post #9723 (isolation #495) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:49 am

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UNVOTE:

Okay, what are the alliances then?
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Post Post #9725 (isolation #496) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:00 am

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She said that.
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Post Post #9726 (isolation #497) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:01 am

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Also, Titus must've targetted me N1, anyone knows what she did?
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Post Post #9728 (isolation #498) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:04 am

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Let me search this in the 4 hundred pages.
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Post Post #9729 (isolation #499) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:05 am

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Though, I am pretty sure Titus said that she said that.
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Post Post #9732 (isolation #500) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:19 am

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In post 6730, Titus wrote:
You claim you can become a third party. Kevin doesn't make sense for the third party that is in existance.
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Post Post #9733 (isolation #501) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 6707, farside22 wrote:
In post 6700, Titus wrote:
In post 6698, Firebringer wrote:Titus your not suspicious at all about dgb blatantly brown nosing you?
Of course I am. But I have proven that Farside omitted things that are lynchable for on their own, Farside's treated me like shit all game, refused to full claim after I exposed them, their Roleblocker claim is full of crap, they blew up the joyride when it seemed to have no purpose for their role, shaded Yume and just spammed the shit out of the thread.

I will love suspicious niceness compared to Farside right now.
2 out of 4 girl could be said about you.
Treated like shit and spamming the thread.

I slept on it and although I'm 95% certain you'll call me scum with my claim and all the proof is in the game and you'll just ignore it here is what you missed with my subtle hints.

The points can be used to help town.
As I said I can use them to make my vote multiply.

There is an event I can trigger which I need to be at a certain point and the level will be at a certain point and a player and I will be in a race.
The race I'm not explaining further since I'll be alive to use it ifor not shot tonight thanks to Titus ousting me.

The final thing is if I chose not to use my ability at all at a certain point system I leave the game and go from town to a 3rd party win con.

And if you haven't guessed by now, apparently, I get points for disbanding from players.

So in short end of day 1, pretty sick of Titus attitude, stopped caring/trying to even reason with her, disbanded, asked everyone to target me so I can get the fuck out of the game with a garenteed win then watching sheeping, dealing with fighting and hoping it happened before day 2.
As you can see no luck.
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Post Post #9741 (isolation #502) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:49 am

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In post 9739, Reasonably Rational wrote:and you end up with 4 slots
Just wondering, what are these slots?
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Post Post #9743 (isolation #503) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:02 am

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idk, lynching inside that looks risky and scum could be all elsewhere.
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Post Post #9784 (isolation #504) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:50 am

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Come at me farside22.
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Post Post #9785 (isolation #505) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:51 am

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At least I won't be lynched during MyLo/LyLo incase MoI is left alive.
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Post Post #9786 (isolation #506) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:52 am

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Mod

Can you at least confirm whether there was a mod error in my result or not?
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Post Post #9787 (isolation #507) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:54 am

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TWIE should go, farside22 should also go unless you're confident you'll get scum before farside22 can side with them.
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Post Post #9797 (isolation #508) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:44 am

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The only way I am getting lynched is if farside22 uses all her extra votes on me.
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Post Post #9799 (isolation #509) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:58 am

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Yeah, the stress was at +1 when I got my results.
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Post Post #9802 (isolation #510) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:00 am

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Maybe one of the abilities he claimed to match my claim might actually be slightly different?
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Post Post #9805 (isolation #511) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:02 am

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If MoI actually could win with scum, that would explain.
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Post Post #9806 (isolation #512) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:02 am

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Though, I find it unlikely.
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Post Post #9807 (isolation #513) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:02 am

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Where's everyone?
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Post Post #9810 (isolation #514) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:11 am

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VOTE: farside22
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Post Post #9812 (isolation #515) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:34 am

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Nah, farside22 should use all her votes on me.
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Post Post #9813 (isolation #516) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:35 am

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Or are you fine with the possibility farside22 can automatically quickhammer and win when it's MyLo/LyLo?
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Post Post #9816 (isolation #517) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 9813, Creature wrote:Or are you fine with the possibility farside22 can automatically quickhammer and win when it's MyLo/LyLo?
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Post Post #9817 (isolation #518) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:24 am

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I don't want to let farside22 control the lynch completely.
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Post Post #9823 (isolation #519) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:43 am

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Still think scum are most likely in TWIE, Shiro and possibly TheFuzzylogic99. I think 6 scum would be too much considering how heavily powered some third parties are.
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Post Post #9825 (isolation #520) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:47 am

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Hopefully there are just 5 scum + 2 third parties that can win with scum, otherwise this game was likely under 20% EV.
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Post Post #9826 (isolation #521) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:49 am

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In post 9823, Creature wrote:Still think scum are most likely in TWIE, Shiro and possibly TheFuzzylogic99. I think 6 scum would be too much considering how heavily powered some third parties are.
Nvm, I am getting paranoid of Shadow_step.
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Post Post #9827 (isolation #522) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:49 am

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Though, if he's scum, he doesn't have much power, so that's a plus.
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Post Post #9829 (isolation #523) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:22 am

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Hard to imagine scum lost 3 members very early yet they're still in a good position. So 2 scum left is most likely.
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Post Post #9830 (isolation #524) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:23 am

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Also, if there are 2 scum left, I find it least likely DGB voted one of the topwagons in Beach-a-palooza.
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Post Post #9834 (isolation #525) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:26 am

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I said only the results (not target) to Shadow and Xkfyu because I didn't know whether I could tell it was a town or a scum role.
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Post Post #9835 (isolation #526) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:27 am

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Even if it seems unlikely, I am not lying.
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Post Post #9836 (isolation #527) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:27 am

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It's somewhat like TTH Summer, something really weird you'll only find out aftergame.
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Post Post #9837 (isolation #528) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:28 am

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Also, my action succeeding when Snarky was supposed to roleblock me should also tell something, I don't think the mod would hide the fact I'm roleblock immune.
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Post Post #9840 (isolation #529) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:31 am

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Not sure if I can talk about that.
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Post Post #9842 (isolation #530) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:32 am

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In post 1, Varsoon wrote:You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
I think I am allowed to paraphrase mod communication, right?
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Post Post #9843 (isolation #531) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:32 am

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In post 9841, TheWayItEnds wrote:you're not sure if you can say that you messaged varsoon
I didn't need to.
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Post Post #9846 (isolation #532) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:48 am

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Yeah, it says my action somewhat succeeded, but nothing more than that can be said.
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Post Post #9847 (isolation #533) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:49 am

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And there's no game-changing mod error.
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Post Post #9856 (isolation #534) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 9850, Almost50 wrote:
In post 9837, Creature wrote:Also, my action succeeding when Snarky was supposed to roleblock me should also tell something, I don't think the mod would hide the fact I'm roleblock immune.
And it took you all this time to figure this out?? Mate, you're either scum to the bone or just bad to the core of your soul.
I already figured this out long ago, just reminding I am not lying.
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Post Post #9859 (isolation #535) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:27 am

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Okay then.
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Post Post #9860 (isolation #536) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:28 am

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Who's most likely scum there?
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Post Post #9861 (isolation #537) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:28 am

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besides TWIE
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Post Post #9871 (isolation #538) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:22 pm

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I think I am just scumread because of my results.
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Post Post #9872 (isolation #539) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:23 pm

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I don't want to defend that I can still be town out of my results as it can still be used against me no matter how towny I am.
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Post Post #9873 (isolation #540) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:23 pm

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I think this game should be locked if farside22 can't win with scum.
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Post Post #9875 (isolation #541) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:32 pm

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Also, what could it mean that I got a 1/4 result on random but he had 2/4 (assuming you know I am telling the truth)?

He could be lying to get me lynched, but if town don't lose majority from my lynch, then random not just would most likely get himself lynched, but also the other members of his faction.
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Post Post #9893 (isolation #542) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:47 am

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Hey farside, can you still use your extra votes on me?
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Post Post #9908 (isolation #543) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:29 am

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Though, if I flip town, what's your opinion on the result I got on you?
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Post Post #9910 (isolation #544) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:51 am

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If the entire Crystal Gem can win with scum, this game is absurdly unbalanced.
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Post Post #9915 (isolation #545) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:03 am

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How many votes I have?
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Post Post #9916 (isolation #546) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:07 am

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Well, I already have 3 votes, so farside22 should be able to hammer me.
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Post Post #9919 (isolation #547) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:08 am

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Also, I wasn't playing poor, what mainly got me lynched is that result I got, even if I didn't use that at all, I don't think it would impact The Cluster much. I was trying to gamesolve by PoEing it down to a few players while you were expecting my lynch would automatically solve the game.
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Post Post #9920 (isolation #548) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:09 am

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Don't lynch RR until one of the non-topwagoners flip scum or MoI/random shows that their "guilty" is actually reasonable, not another bad tunneling.
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Post Post #9922 (isolation #549) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:11 am

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I'm already in hammer range, let farside22 do it.
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Post Post #9923 (isolation #550) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:11 am

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TFL99, Shadow_step and Shiro went smoothly under the radar.
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Post Post #9924 (isolation #551) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:12 am

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TheWayItEnds, TheFuzzylogic99, Shadow_step and Shiro, these all need to fullclaim tomorrow, don't let MoI lead another mislynch before that.
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Post Post #9926 (isolation #552) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 9923, Creature wrote:TFL99, Shadow_step and Shiro went smoothly under the radar.
Maybe TWIE actually tried to do something, but these not (maybe only TFL99).
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Post Post #9927 (isolation #553) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:17 am

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Wait, so farside22's extra votes aren't limited?
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Post Post #9930 (isolation #554) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:21 am

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In post 9928, Almost50 wrote:They ARE limited. Up to half the lynch threshold +1
Scum #1: Hey, there are 9 players alive, do you know what we should do?
Scum #2: farside22, vote with us and we win
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Post Post #9931 (isolation #555) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:21 am

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In post 9929, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 9919, Creature wrote:Also, I wasn't playing poor, what mainly got me lynched is that result I got, even if I didn't use that at all,
I don't think it would impact The Cluster much.
Oh really? I thought you didn't understand the Cluster event. Now you are saying you didn't think taking an action would impact it. Which means you understood but made a decision to disregard the danger. These a contradictory stances.

Lynch this please ...
Past and present are different things if you haven't learned.
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Post Post #9932 (isolation #556) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:24 am

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In post 9930, Creature wrote:
In post 9928, Almost50 wrote:They ARE limited. Up to half the lynch threshold +1
Scum #1: Hey, there are 9 players alive, do you know what we should do?
Scum #2: farside22, vote with us and we win
Tell me, who's careless about farside22 and scum getting majority? You or me?
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Post Post #9933 (isolation #557) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:29 am

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lol I wonder how funny it would be if I were scum and town decided to leave farside22 alive.
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Post Post #9941 (isolation #558) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 9936, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So at that time of this replay you didn't understand and "forgot about it". Now you are saying "Oh, I just didn't think it would hurt".
Did I use "didn't"?
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Post Post #9942 (isolation #559) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 9919, Creature wrote:even if I didn't use that at all, I
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Post Post #9943 (isolation #560) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:49 am

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Your tunnel is so strong that soon you'll pick a set of posts and say I was crumbing scum.
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Post Post #9953 (isolation #561) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:51 am

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Maybe it could be Peridot?
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Post Post #9967 (isolation #562) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:03 pm

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Okay, let's first plan alliances then.
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Post Post #9968 (isolation #563) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:04 pm

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Maybe I'd leave TWIE/TFL99/S_S/Shiro with someone they can trust to fullclaim.
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Post Post #9971 (isolation #564) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:16 pm

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Hopefully that game doesn't have anything that can majorly screw night actions.
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Post Post #9996 (isolation #565) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:36 pm

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I am not even lying wtf
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Post Post #9997 (isolation #566) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:37 pm

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When I was making the night action, I wasn't aware of The Cluster event, now I am.
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Post Post #9999 (isolation #567) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:38 pm

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If someone has the power of insta-clearing someone...
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Post Post #10009 (isolation #568) » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:46 pm

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Are all alliances decided?
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Post Post #10010 (isolation #569) » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:55 pm

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Also, SirCakez is a master busser, so wouldn't be surprised if he was pushing one of his team mates earlier.
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Post Post #10011 (isolation #570) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:02 am

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In post 2340, SirCakez wrote:Upon some review
Moving CoolDog down to nullscum, Klingon to nullscum, Snarky to null, Xkfyu to scum and Kraska to nulltown
The rest of my nulls have basically nothing

Town:
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mastin
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Yume

Nulltown: Creature,
A50
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DGB
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Snarky

Nullscum: Shiro, Foxbird (Shadow_step),
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Klingon

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Post Post #10012 (isolation #571) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:03 am

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maybe some of the greens (non-bolded) are inaccurate.
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Post Post #10016 (isolation #572) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:39 am

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I suggest not matching {Shadow, TFL, Shiro, TWIE}
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Post Post #10018 (isolation #573) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:41 am

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I could change my vote to TWIE, but I don't think I'll convince TunnelofIllusion to stop scumreading me.
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Post Post #10024 (isolation #574) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:45 pm

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Not sure anymore, we could simply assume farside22 won't support scum and not lynch her, that'd make things easier.
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Post Post #10026 (isolation #575) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:47 pm

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Shadow_step/Shiro/TheFuzzylogic99/TheWayItEnds

Is it a good table?
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Post Post #10039 (isolation #576) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:19 am

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Are all alliances set already? If not, why still not?
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Post Post #10041 (isolation #577) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:22 am

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In post 10040, Reasonably Rational wrote:He also did express a willingness to lynch creature within the pt yesterday
lol

Scum: Wow that guy is acting exactly like how I met him when he was town before, but I'll pretend I scumread him because nobody has that same feeling.
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Post Post #10042 (isolation #578) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:23 am

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TWIE and Shiro are already the scum team.

If there's one more scum, I don't know who it is.
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Post Post #10043 (isolation #579) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:24 am

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If I am left alive and get an alliance, I still can sort of cause harm to scum.
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Post Post #10044 (isolation #580) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:25 am

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In post 10043, Creature wrote:If I am left alive and get an alliance, I still can sort of cause harm to scum.
As during the massclaim they'll have to either claim their scum role (which might look bad as a town one) or create one and risk being caught in a lie.
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Post Post #10068 (isolation #581) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:19 am

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Though, I'd rather lynch who's Beach-a-paloooza non-topwagoner.
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Post Post #10071 (isolation #582) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:45 am

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Post Post #10090 (isolation #583) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:39 am

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In post 10089, Almost50 wrote:What exactly has Creature said or done that makes him town to you?
Do I look like scum who has given up?
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Post Post #10091 (isolation #584) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:40 am

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If you're bothered that me not moving my vote off farside22 means I still want to lynch her:

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #10092 (isolation #585) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:42 am

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Who would you lynch from Shiro/TWIE?
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Post Post #10093 (isolation #586) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:42 am

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grapes

Who would you lynch from Shiro/TWIE?
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Post Post #10097 (isolation #587) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:55 am

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lol what

5969 isn't even my readslist
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Post Post #10110 (isolation #588) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:08 pm

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VOTE: TWIE

TWIE: kraska, mastin2, RR, me

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Post Post #10112 (isolation #589) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:21 pm

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It's worth noting that it's likely the scum team didn't know DGB was the traitor.
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Post Post #10115 (isolation #590) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:28 pm

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You mean scum distribution (scumputer)?
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Post Post #10116 (isolation #591) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:34 pm

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They weren't sure DGB was scum, so that could have been three town wagons and scum just need to take their pick. If they assumed DGB was the traitor, I don't know how they would act.

If you mean scum distribution, then no.
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Post Post #10117 (isolation #592) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:35 pm

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Nvm, I noticed DGB claimed traitor to Klingoncelt, so that was a huge hint she was a traitor.
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Post Post #10139 (isolation #593) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:39 am

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Reason we need to decide on all alliances before hammering.
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Post Post #10140 (isolation #594) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:40 am

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Inb4 "there can be two town vigs, still want Creature lynch"
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Post Post #10142 (isolation #595) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:52 am

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That's fair.
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Post Post #10143 (isolation #596) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:52 am

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It's probably just TWIE + Shiro (the third one could be one topwagoner if there's one)
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Post Post #10147 (isolation #597) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:03 am

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Who should I ally with?
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Post Post #10148 (isolation #598) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:04 am

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RR/farside22
kraska/fuzzy
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Post Post #10149 (isolation #599) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:06 am

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mastin2 should ally preferably with grapes or one of the gems.
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