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FixedIn post 18, James3 wrote:Okay I need to figure out if you're stupid, ignorant, or scum. So tell me ssbm, what if anything do you know about my game history?-
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Okay so you're simply ignorant/unaware, not unintelligent.In post 21, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I don't know anything about your games, we've never played together and I don't usually read completed games
You see, I came here from the ToS Forum Mafia section. For about a year I played Mafia on that forum, and by the end I was without a doubt the most skilled active player there. Eventually the disparity was so vast that I had to be banned to keep things fair for the rest of the players (officially it was for abrasiveness, as many of their players suffer from SSS and my personality conflicted with that).
Anyway, I always claim day one (and yes it was serious, for those that didn't understand that), and press others for their claims. I do this for the purpose of analyzing the behavior of others to determine if they are scum or town. Already I'm picking apart your posts and those of others for a level of analysis that is probably higher than you could comprehend.-
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I've determined with a very high degree of probability that this is scum.In post 22, Land of Xanth wrote:Appealing to meta after being cc'ed...
I'm good with lynching James.
Yes, already.
VOTE: James3
Serious vote is serious.
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No. This is my only account on this site.In post 43, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Are you a KainTepes alt?In post 42, James3 wrote:
You see, I came here from the ToS Forum Mafia section. For about a year I played Mafia on that forum, and by the end I was without a doubt the most skilled active player there. Eventually the disparity was so vast that I had to be banned to keep things fair for the rest of the players (officially it was for abrasiveness, as many of their players suffer from SSS and my personality conflicted with that).In post 21, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I don't know anything about your games, we've never played together and I don't usually read completed games-
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That's not an ad hominem. Saying "you are ignorant, therefore you're wrong" is an ad hom. Simply making a diagnosis isn't a fallacy because it isn't an argument. This is basic logic.
I didn't say ToS, I said ToS FM. Site metas aside, FM is FM.
There's a high probability that you're scum because your behavior (well, Grey's mainly) is very unlikely to be from a town member. The behavior or potential behavior of others is besides the point.-
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The claim that I was appealing to meta was flagrantly dishonest. I merely asked ssbm. There's no reason for a town member to seriously push a lynch for what I said and it doesn't appear to be explained by simple unseriousness or bad play.In post 50, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Well, I guess you aren't trolling James.
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Behavior is NAI. Could you explain the scum motivation behind LAX's attack on your play so far? I'm not getting a plea for town cred vibe so far from them in finding how you've decided to open RVS scummy.
Noting that someone is unfamiliar with my meta isn't an insult. Thicken your skin.In post 51, Land of Xanth wrote:Um, it's the insults and attitude I am having a problem with. It looks bad. I don't care about the you're wrong or right. It looks as if you're purposely trying not to get along and you're trying to be anti-town.
And we don't do those claiming strategies here. Adapt.
And what probability bullshit. I can say the exact same thing from your behavoir. Grey's behavoir is based on his playstyle, so if you're calling his playstyle scummy, that in itself is scummy.
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They didn't do that claiming strategy on the ToS forums either. I don't mindlessly follow the herd.
And that Grey is unvoting me now that he realized it'll be hard to lynch me, only further shows that the push was opportunistic and therefore indicative of his being scum.-
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Also, here's another bit of flagrant dishonesty from Grey. He purportedly unvoted me because he realized that my cop claim was serious. But his original reason for voting me was that a had "responded with meta" to a CC. But if, as Grey claims to have thought, my claim were not serious, then I would not have actually been responding to a CC. So Grey has admitted that he was either being dishonest in his original reason for voting me, dishonest in his reason for unvoting, or both.-
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It is not easy to lynch a serious cop claim on day one. That three players were voting me does not change this reality.In post 63, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Looks like conf bias to me. Considering 6 players had posted so far, one was an ego poster not in the game yet, one was you, and 3 of the remaining 4 were voting you, I don't think you looked hard to lynch, so what makes you think the motivation behind Grey head's unvote was that you're hard to lynch?In post 57, James3 wrote:And that Grey is unvoting me now that he realized it'll be hard to lynch me, only further shows that the push was opportunistic and therefore indicative of his being scum.
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So rather than actually try to act in the best interest of the town, you are admitting that you were just trying to avoid being seen as scummy (and thus avoid being lynched).In post 66, Land of Xanth wrote:
Yeah, I'll save you some time on your read. Start hereIn post 62, James3 wrote:So you're admitting that pushing cop claims is scummy. Would you like to add any other details to your confession?
Subject: Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.
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Want to find scum? Start with those who have pushed for my lynch todayIn post 1115, -Grey- wrote:Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.
Doing so denies town information if the claimer actually is a cop and actually does live through the night due to a protective role.
Only Scum has the need to see a cop claim lynched because not doing so forces you to shoot me and pray I'm not protected.aftermy claim.-
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I've given you a taste. That's sufficient.
Or does your framer need to know who I'm checking?
Not my fault that you claimed scum.In post 73, Land of Xanth wrote:
I'm tired of trying to talk to you because all you care about is sung your agenda down my throat instead of actually trying to sort me.In post 71, James3 wrote:
So rather than actually try to act in the best interest of the town, you are admitting that you were just trying to avoid being seen as scummy (and thus avoid being lynched).In post 66, Land of Xanth wrote:
Yeah, I'll save you some time on your read. Start hereIn post 62, James3 wrote:So you're admitting that pushing cop claims is scummy. Would you like to add any other details to your confession?
Subject: Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.
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Want to find scum? Start with those who have pushed for my lynch todayIn post 1115, -Grey- wrote:Cop claims don't die d1 period, even if they're shitty claims.
Doing so denies town information if the claimer actually is a cop and actually does live through the night due to a protective role.
Only Scum has the need to see a cop claim lynched because not doing so forces you to shoot me and pray I'm not protected.aftermy claim.
Go to hell.
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While unlikely, there is a greater probability that they are just a bad town player (how experienced is Uzi btw?) than there is for you. I've seen townies jump on existing wagons in ways that appear to be scum opportunistic before, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility, although doing it to a cop claim would require a profound lack of skill from a town member. OTOH, I see basically no way that you're town.In post 74, Land of Xanth wrote:Also James, why would you rather have us instead of Uzi?
They are the one that hopped on your wagon after you said to take your claim seriously, did they not?
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A scum member could very easily see the wagon building up and not make the connection that a cop claim is inherently unlikely to be lynched day one. People momentarily forgot little obvious things all the time.In post 75, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I didn't like his vote for you after it was confirmed he wasn't trolling.In post 67, Land of Xanth wrote:
LolIn post 58, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I remember the monster in your avi getting banned just before I quit and people losing their shit
But I want you to talk to me about the gamestate. Cause your vote was sorta oppertunistic.
Why did you hop onto the wagon on James after he confirmed his claim was real?
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Why does him confirming his claim was real make you feel my vote was opportunistic? He's in no danger of being lynched and I don't have to believe his claim.-
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You're town slipping way too hard.In post 85, Land of Xanth wrote:
I don't think there is a framer in the game considering I don't believe the game is bastard. Hold on, let me check.In post 80, James3 wrote:I've given you a taste. That's sufficient.
Or does your framer need to know who I'm checking?
And I don't see how hiding analysis is pro town. If you genuinely believe in seeing my lynch at the end of the day, you'll pull out everything you got to get me lynched.
@MOD Is this game bastard?
Because he jumped on me after the cop claim, he's very probably scum. But there's an offchance of him being a VI, and that offchance is greater for him than it is for you.In post 89, Land of Xanth wrote:
This makes no sense to me. You're basicly saying that because he jumped on you after the cop claim makes him bad town? If so I guess that makes sense. If not, explain it to me like I am a pre-schooler.In post 80, James3 wrote:While unlikely, there is a greater probability that they are just a bad town player (how experienced is Uzi btw?) than there is for you. I've seen townies jump on existing wagons in ways that appear to be scum opportunistic before, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility, although doing it to a cop claim would require a profound lack of skill from a town member. OTOH, I see basically no way that you're town.
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PEDIT: LOL HI TYWIN
Pedit2: Eh yeah I guess I can agree with you
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Kyouko's vote and fake CC could've been a town-motivated reaction test. It doesn't indicate either alignment for him. Grey is more clearly scum than Uzi or Comm because he made bad faith arguments along with his vote, that highly contraindicates being newbsheep. Uzi and Comm are both basically in the same boat, though I'd scumread Uzi a bit more because he's obstinate, whereas newbsheep usually will retract after being called out.In post 95, Land of Xanth wrote:
Well Grey jumped on you after the cop claim as well. So did Kyouko and Camm. Does that make us all scum? Does that make us VI? What makes or breaks the difference between being VI and/or being scum in this case?In post 93, James3 wrote:Because he jumped on me after the cop claim, he's very probably scum. But there's an offchance of him being a VI, and that offchance is greater for him than it is for you.
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Okay I just checked Comm's profile and searched his posting history. Apparently he's brand new on this site and hasn't played FM in several years. Reasonless sheeping isn't alignment indicative for complete newbs. I retain a slight scumread on him because I was a claimed cop when he voted me, but he doesn't rank near Uzi and Grey, unless he convinces me that he's scum when he comes back.
You're not particularly bright.In post 106, Land of Xanth wrote:
Oh really? Cause Kyouko says exactly what he was trying to accomplish with his vote here:In post 105, James3 wrote:
Kyouko's vote and fake CC could've been a town-motivated reaction test. It doesn't indicate either alignment for him. Grey is more clearly scum than Uzi or Comm because he made bad faith arguments along with his vote, that highly contraindicates being newbsheep. Uzi and Comm are both basically in the same boat, though I'd scumread Uzi a bit more because he's obstinate, whereas newbsheep usually will retract after being called out.In post 95, Land of Xanth wrote:
Well Grey jumped on you after the cop claim as well. So did Kyouko and Camm. Does that make us all scum? Does that make us VI? What makes or breaks the difference between being VI and/or being scum in this case?In post 93, James3 wrote:Because he jumped on me after the cop claim, he's very probably scum. But there's an offchance of him being a VI, and that offchance is greater for him than it is for you.
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He also stated it was RVS earlier.In post 38, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:No I didn't take his claim seriously nor is my claim serious, it was a joke vote
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Okay that's not actually fair. You're giving the appearance of being unintelligent, though since you're scum it could just be an act.In post 107, James3 wrote:You're not particularly bright.-
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If anyone who isn't confirmed scum would like me to explain the bit about Kyouko's post, I will. Otherwise, you'll have to live with lack of understanding.In post 109, Land of Xanth wrote:My point is he said it was a joke and you read it as a reaction test, but the fact that you decide to descredit me as well as throw shade at me instead of attempting to fight the arguement is shitty.
And this is a hydra. If you are reading Grey's play as scummy, how do you read the Alisae's head play as?
Also give me a reason to believe you aren't conf biasing us.
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You and Grey are the same alignment by necessity. There's no need to independently read you two.
What on Earth are you talking about?In post 112, Zekromaster wrote:As an occasional ToS and IRL player, there it's pretty common to massclaim even on D1, as the "day" phase lasts like 3 to 5 minutes
The ToS game (which is not what I've been referring to, at any point in this game) has a D1 that lasts 15 seconds. Massclaiming is impossible in that time. ToS FM has a 24 hour D1, during which massclaiming is possible, but never done.-
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I'm modding my first game and this is the second game I've played on-site. So my familiarity with site meta is somewhat minimal. But that's besides the point, as my strategies didn't agree with ToS FM meta either, and I didn't let that affect me.
As for Zekro, he seems to both lack reading comprehension and simply not know what he's talking about in general. For some inexplicable reason, he believes that when I said that I played Mafia on the ToS forums, I was actually stating that I played ToS (which I do, but there's no parity between ToS and any sort of FM, so I left that unmentioned for lack of relevance). Moreover, despite speaking about it as if he did, he knows nothing about ToS, and is obviously lying about having played it (though I can't fathom why). Day one in ToS always lasts fifteen seconds without exception. And massclaiming on day one is not even possible, much less common.-
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Why do you say that?In post 144, Pepchoninga wrote:
Then they play really bad Forum Mafia on the ToS forum lol.In post 142, James3 wrote:Reading is wonderful people.
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I always claim day one. It provides ample information for me to read people off of.In post 135, Zekromaster wrote:First of all, still don't have the time to write a detailed post (and I'm pretty slow at getting into mafia games, 6 pages for me still look like not enough information even though there's plenty). Real life is a pain in the back entrance.
Second of all,James did something so scummy it looks towny. Claiming on D1 looks so fake no sane scumplayer would do it, as to not look scummy.
Third of all, sorry for the misunderstanding about James's ToS experience. Thought he was talking about ToS game, not ToS Forum Mafia. (Also, not playing ToS since the last time I opened Steam, which is like 6 months ago - I checked after posting and yes, D1 lasts 15 seconds).
Asking questions, so that I have something to analyze when I can get on to it tomorrow (aside from the normal posts in the thread)
@ssbm_Kyouko: What reaction did you expect from your fake counterclaim?
@James3: Some non-meta reason for claiming D1 (especially since your result comes in N2, with an higher risk of being lynched before it comes in if people don't believe you, or being nightkilled by a timeshifted killing role N1 or a normal killing role N2)? Basically, explain your strategy like I'm 5.
@CommKnight: I can understand the reasoning behind you believing his claim is fake, but why do you think he'd have claimed D1? Basically, couldn't it be a town falseclaim (if it's good or bad play, it's not what we're discussing here)? Is there any reason that makes you think that he is specifically scum?
@Everyone: If you could daykill someone right now, who would it be? (Looks like a weird question, but it has its reasons).
Voting between tomorrow morning and tomorrow afternoon.
tl;dr: James is so scummy he may be town, asking some questions, everyone state someone he'd daykill right now because I have some weird method of getting information based on asking random questions to people-
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit apparently.In post 147, Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm judging from your actions and way of playing.In post 146, James3 wrote:
Why do you say that?In post 144, Pepchoninga wrote:
Then they play really bad Forum Mafia on the ToS forum lol.In post 142, James3 wrote:Reading is wonderful people.
I said my experience comes from playing Forum Mafia on the ToS forums, not ToS itself.
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I fakeclaim as scum obviously.In post 151, PeregrineV wrote:
What do you claim if you are scum?In post 148, James3 wrote:I always claim day one. It provides ample information for me to read people off of.-
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If he were really a role cop, and he really believed that was incompatible with me being a 1-Shot Cop, he would have claimed it immediately. He didn't, ergo he's lying.In post 167, Land of Xanth wrote:
Do you seriously think for half a second that there isn't a second investigative role if you're a 1-shot cop?In post 165, James3 wrote:Okay, so Comm is confirmed scum.
UNVOTE: Xanth
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If he really were cop he would've immediately CCed.
This shit is redonkulous. No investigative claims are getting lynched on day fucking one.
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He likely believes that my mislynch would implicate you (which it would). I'd guess he prefers for us both to stay alive as long as possible so as to nullify my ability without you being lynched.In post 178, CommKnight wrote:
Says the guy who Grey is trying to stop from being lynched. Nice job throwing him under the bus with yourself.In post 177, James3 wrote:Grey is really trying hard to save his scumbuddy.-
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Again, my tactics are not representative of ToS, and they in fact caused much consternation while I was there.In post 211, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:ToS doesn't have the best reputation so he may just be blindly carrying some of his bad or in this case, controversial habits over.
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They referring to the playerbase on ToS.In post 212, James3 wrote:Though yes, they are as terrible as everyone says.-
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So SlySly claims scum. That makes things easy.In post 215, SlySly wrote:He's a 1-shot cop. He could screw up his one shot. He's not a big loss. If his claim is true and we lynched him, big deal. It would be worth it not to listen to his snippiness for the entire game. I'd be willing to lynch him just so the rest of the game can be fun.
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Sometimes it is. For example, the man in my profile picture could have sat around arguing with himself about whether or not the commies really intended to destroy the fabric of Spanish society. But he didn't, they were confirmed scum (literally) so he killed them.In post 406, Vifam wrote:Is life ever that simple-
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You're either bussing or one of you is neutral.In post 410, Land of Xanth wrote:
That's strange. You start pushing them for the same reasons we push them? And you still SR us, right?In post 403, James3 wrote:
So SlySly claims scum. That makes things easy.In post 215, SlySly wrote:He's a 1-shot cop. He could screw up his one shot. He's not a big loss. If his claim is true and we lynched him, big deal. It would be worth it not to listen to his snippiness for the entire game. I'd be willing to lynch him just so the rest of the game can be fun.
VOTE: SLySly
We can get the others tomorrow.
Not to mention what makes you think they aren't just bad town?
Also give me a read on Pep please.
With Love, Alisae
Bad town still want to win, they just aren't good at it. All I'm assuming is that he isn't a gamethrower.
All I can tell about Pep right now is that he seems to be unintelligent. Alignment-wise he's null.-
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One would hope that claimed scum would get lynched the same day.In post 590, Land of Xanth wrote:That's fair enough, but what's to say he'll be the one lynched today?-
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Claim. Now.In post 599, SlySly wrote:
Way to burst my bubble. I was hoping to surprise everyone.In post 589, James3 wrote:he'll claim something important shortly before the day ends in order to try to cause a nolynch.
I always claim day one. You can check my references if you like. I do it because I find it to be a profitable game strategy, as it provokes all sorts of reactions that allow me to get reads on people.In post 616, Zekromaster wrote:@James3, CommKnight, AnyoneWhoClaimedOrWantsToClaim:If you are really your role, why do you think claiming D1 is a good idea?.
@James3: Yes, I know, meta. But either you're bad town or hiding behind meta, no one sane would ever claim TWO DAYS BEFORE HIS FIRST RESULT. Zekromaster would like some more practical and logical answer, as he thinks "meta" isn't the real reason behing that claim.-
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Good as time as any to claim.In post 634, TTTT wrote:
Are you claiming quintuple-voter here?In post 631, James3 wrote:
Claim. Now.In post 599, SlySly wrote:
Way to burst my bubble. I was hoping to surprise everyone.In post 589, James3 wrote:he'll claim something important shortly before the day ends in order to try to cause a nolynch.
bcuz to me it looks like Sly is at L-6
That you do not have the skill to comprehend my strategy does not invalidate it.In post 636, Zekromaster wrote:
I: "Don't answer with meta!"In post 631, James3 wrote:
Claim. Now.In post 599, SlySly wrote:
Way to burst my bubble. I was hoping to surprise everyone.In post 589, James3 wrote:he'll claim something important shortly before the day ends in order to try to cause a nolynch.
I always claim day one. You can check my references if you like. I do it because I find it to be a profitable game strategy, as it provokes all sorts of reactions that allow me to get reads on people.In post 616, Zekromaster wrote:@James3, CommKnight, AnyoneWhoClaimedOrWantsToClaim:If you are really your role, why do you think claiming D1 is a good idea?.
@James3: Yes, I know, meta. But either you're bad town or hiding behind meta, no one sane would ever claim TWO DAYS BEFORE HIS FIRST RESULT. Zekromaster would like some more practical and logical answer, as he thinks "meta" isn't the real reason behing that claim.
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He is scum. Whatever role he's going to claim will not be his real one.In post 642, Pepchoninga wrote:James stop role fishing please. If you want the claim, help people get on the Sly wagon.
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ssbm seems town
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In post 790, James3 wrote:I've been kind of busy IRL. Could someone summarize briefly why the biggest wagon is on Pep, rather than SlySly?
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Because it benefits the town when scum are forced to claim.In post 807, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why do you keep asking people to claim when they have no reason to?In post 790, James3 wrote:I've been kind of busy IRL. Could someone summarize briefly why the biggest wagon is on Pep, rather thank SlySly?
Did he claim scum too, or are people just being bad?
Also, the post you quoted did not include a request for a claim.
Also, what is your role claim?
I learned that SlySly, Comm, LoX, and Uzi are scum. I learned that ssbm and Ramcius are very probably town. I don't make "light" reads.In post 862, TTTT wrote:
^plz answerIn post 765, TTTT wrote:Any others?
Also, what did you learn about other players from their reactions to your first post claim?
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I've been pushing SlySly for a while.In post 866, TTTT wrote:
4 hard scum readsIn post 864, James3 wrote:I learned that SlySly, Comm, LoX, and Uzi are scum. I learned that ssbm and Ramcius are very probably town. I don't make "light" reads.
2 hard town reads
but not really pushing anything?
you got a link to this other site you played on?
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=17-
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Do you have any questions about why he should be lynched?In post 894, TTTT wrote:
Looks more like defending yourself than pushing a desired lynchIn post 892, James3 wrote:I've been pushing SlySly for a while.
He made the case for me, it's only a question of whether the majority of the town wants to pursue victory or not.-
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I see that SlySly has changed from claiming scum to claiming jester. Frankly I don't buy it.
I have, for the record, been busy IRL, which is why my posting level dropped off.
Anyway, the lynch deadline snuck up on me too. While I don't have a real read on Pep, the fact that the biggest wagon is on him despite another player having scumclaimed indicates that he more than likely is town, being pushed by mafia desperate to save their buddy. I would strongly advise the town to switch the lynch to SlySly ASAP.-
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You stated expressly that you had been trying to get yourself lynched.In post 935, SlySly wrote:
I love when people twist things I say into something that I didn't say.In post 934, James3 wrote:I see that SlySly has changed from claiming scum to claiming jester. Frankly I don't buy it.-
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So you claimed that your wincon was advanced by getting lynched. As I said, a jester claim.In post 949, SlySly wrote:
I specifically stated I was still playing to my wincon.In post 948, James3 wrote:You stated expressly that you had been trying to get yourself lynched.
I've got a new scumread.In post 959, TTTT wrote:I didn't re-read, but I want a Ram lynch for infoz after these last two pages.
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Okay town, it's time to get serious. After carefully reviewing the Pep wagon, I've determined that it's nonsense. I can't say for a certain fact that he's town, but he's definitely not mafia. The wagon being built on him is clearly designed by relatively intelligent scum getting bad towns to sheep them. If you're town, you need to get off of it now. I haven't lookd into the Skelda wagon in the same detail, but at first glance it appears to be the same. Now, given this, I can conlcude with a high degree of probability that the mafia has day chat.
Now, while lynching SlySly is unequivocally the right option, since we're nearing the deadline I would be willling to lynch my weaker scumread Uzi.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
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Is there any evidence to believe that that was a tactical replacement? If not then we must assume it was due to IRL circumstances, and thus not alignment indicative.In post 1013, Ramcius wrote:
Lil asked to be replaced, so probably town, scum is in good position in dead game like this and not much reason to leave like thatIn post 1012, James3 wrote:Okay town, it's time to get serious. After carefully reviewing the Pep wagon, I've determined that it's nonsense. I can't say for a certain fact that he's town, but he's definitely not mafia. The wagon being built on him is clearly designed by relatively intelligent scum getting bad towns to sheep them. If you're town, you need to get off of it now. I haven't lookd into the Skelda wagon in the same detail, but at first glance it appears to be the same. Now, given this, I can conlcude with a high degree of probability that the mafia has day chat.
Now, while lynching SlySly is unequivocally the right option, since we're nearing the deadline I would be willling to lynch my weaker scumread Uzi.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
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That's an interesting conundrum. I'll leave you to figure it out.In post 1017, Nero Cain wrote:
if he's not mafia how is he not town?In post 1012, James3 wrote:I can't say for a certain fact that he's town, but he's definitely not mafia.
Who are your scumbuddies?In post 1050, XnadrojX wrote:Hello everyone and shit I have three days to catch up and do something. Reading thru thread rn, if anyone has a brief summary I'd appreciate it.
Query, are you not reading the thread, or are you a liar?In post 1058, PeregrineV wrote:
My issue with James is that when the game started he claimed, then was all gung-ho when his claim was doubted, and said he claimed to because he always does when town, and I ask him if he fake-claimed as scum, and he said yes, then kind of vanished.In post 890, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
I checked because I was so affronted by his strategy but usually I just ignore secondhand meta and go with what I've seen myself.In post 889, SlySly wrote:Does anyone ever really double check?
His scumhunting has been limited to anyone doubting him, and his claim is kind of the only reason he is still alive.-
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VI read on this oneIn post 1067, PeregrineV wrote:
Prove me wrong.In post 1063, James3 wrote:Query, are you not reading the thread, or are you a liar?-
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