Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia [Game Over]

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stop

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Gamma + Fire Assassin = ?

if you actually think i'd make that post as scum with fire as my scumbuddy instead of just peacing out for a bit and coming back later you're real bad at this game

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VOTE: Gammagooey[/b]

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VOTE: Gammagooey

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VOTE: Papa Zito

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Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

What are you gonna do about it?

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Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

What are you gonna do about it?

What do you want me to do about it?

Pipe down if you don't have anything substantial to share, or put your money where your mouth is

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yea that's what I thought

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dunn why are you voting PZ?

I think he might be mafia

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i don't believe that you really believed dunn was close to being hammered

nah I thought I was closer to l-1 than 3 votes - votes were confusing with no vc


You think this is the best thing to latch onto to?

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Ok that kind of shit isn't gonna do you any favors.

This was a really scummy post

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Votecount 1-3

Dunnstral (1): Vaxkiller
GuyInFreezer (1): Boonskiies
Not Chara (1): PeregrineV
Fr099er (3): GuyInFreezer, Gammagooey, Not Chara
Gammagooey(3): ThinkBig, Desperado, Vifam
Vifam(1): Superhans
Superhans (1): Fr099er
Desperado (1): Papa Zito

With 15 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch/no lynch.
Not Voting (3): Dunnstral, Malachite, Brian Skies

Deadline for Day One is: (expired on 2017-02-23 18:53:43)

VOTE: Dunnstral

I was going to vote Gif, but Dunn replacing Frie Assassin?

VOTE: Dunn

Dunnestral is at L-1 I believe.

There's actually no reason to lynch Dunn right now. At least give it a few days; he's barely even done anything this game.

Side note: UGH, I WANT TO HAMMER SO BADLY!!! I LOVE BEING THE HAMMER....

votecount wasn't there

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Brian I thought you were better than this

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I have no clue what GuyInFreezer is alignment wise

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perfect rating

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VOTE: Superhans

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This game is missing something

I think we're having a hard time driving stuff forward


THAT'S WHY STARTING TOMORROW I'll start making big posts talking about what's happened

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Maybe I'll start off on why desperado is wrong on boonskies

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VOTE: Brian Skies

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I think he's scummy because he was all like "oh look at me I'm going to push this game forward" and because he's scumreading two of my townreads for unknown reasons. Especially the one on PZ made no sense.

Pushing the game forward is scummy? Maybe I should go back to only posting about things that don't matter and/or entering a dumb "tunnel" on nothing and/or doing nothing, like:
GuyInFreezer, Gammagooey, Malachite, Brian Skies, Vifam, Desperado, PeregrineV, and ThinkBig

I'm on the case, by the way. It appears some people have been eagerly anticipating my presence

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I'm offended. Why is my tunnel dumb?

Actually, I was referring to Desperado's read on boonskies. (This should answer Desperado as well)

I have you in the "useless" category.

Also, why is Super not on this list?

Why do you think he should be on the list? Because I don't. Not sure how I read him yet, though. Probably don't care, I can't see myself voting there over other people

I think he's scummy because he was all like "oh look at me I'm going to push this game forward" and because he's scumreading two of my townreads for unknown reasons. Especially the one on PZ made no sense.

Pushing the game forward is scummy?

That's not what I said and you know it.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.


First of all, I'm pretty certain Thinkbig is scum. Look at this interaction:

Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

What are you gonna do about it?

Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

What are you gonna do about it?

What do you want me to do about it?

Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

What are you gonna do about it?

What do you want me to do about it?

Pipe down if you don't have anything substantial to share, or put your money where your mouth is

Thinkbig comes in and throws shade at me in 87. "Quick vote change" isn't really something scummy (especially since I just joined in), but Thinkbig is implying it is
I turn on him pretty hard, he then disappears, never to post again

No but really, having just played with him as scum where he lurked and avoided confrontation all game long, he's scum here.
VOTE: Thinkbig

Next interaction:

Ok that kind of shit isn't gonna do you any favors.

What kind of shit

VOTE: Papa Zito

That kind.

In 83, papa zito turns on me in a malicious way. As if I owe him something. i didn't owe him anything, and my slot wasn't under any suspicion but had a few rvs votes
His iso prior to this is him being kind of jokey
His response in 86 is really bad - he uses that to avoid answering the question

Since then, looking at his iso:

Work with me for a second, Papa. Other than Desperado who you are voting for, do you have any scum reads from any of the main wagons, which are/were Dunn, Fro99er, and now seemingly Superhans.

I'm sorry, are you seriously asking if I've developed solid scumreads on page 5?

over defensive; also this isn't trying to get things "going"

It's page 5...work with me man. I'm trying to start conversation and change off of our irrelevant conversation.

I'm not sure what makes our conversation "irrelevant" as I'm currently trying to worm into your head but sure. I've seen 3 scummish things so far.

1. Gamma's counterwagon comment when there was no counterwagon in existence.
2. Desperado's jump onto Gamma
3. Your complete and total overreaction to the game state.

None of this is worth much.

What about me? It was clearly implied that he found my post scummy/bad in some way

Next, Vifam ignoring stuff?

This post:

It's page 5...work with me man. I'm trying to start conversation and change off of our irrelevant conversation.

I'm not sure what makes our conversation "irrelevant" as I'm currently trying to worm into your head but sure. I've seen 3 scummish things so far.

1. Gamma's counterwagon comment when there was no counterwagon in existence.
2. Desperado's jump onto Gamma
3. Your complete and total overreaction to the game state.

None of this is worth much.

When did #2 happen

comes after post 84 from him, but there's no comments on thinkbig, or papa zito (who he was talking to, and who he was given an unsatisfactory response by) - What I'm talking about here is, Vifam for some reason drops his question in 84 after papa zito's 86, even though that's a pretty half-baked answer, and he never prods further. Thinkbig stuff probably warranted a response, as well

Looking through the rest of his iso for Thinkbig interaction:

idk about ThinkBig I can't remember anything he posted so far setting me off as town or scum


Id like to hear why Dunn is voting Brian Skies

NotChara forgetting about his ThinkBig read felt fake

Don't like how he asked Vax about his read on Dunn either

I suspect that Vifam has a good chance of being scum.


Not Much thoughts on Not Chara - I like their reads, though, but I don't have a strong read

GUT town Desperado and I don't care to look further there today; aka I'm not willing to lynch there over others

Boonskies GUT town, maybe scum are all townreading him. Going to want to keep an eye out for him though, he can still be scum and I feel like he'd blindside a lot of people

GuyinFreezer is pretty useless;

Oh also

VOTE: ThinkBig

Gut

chillin

wondering why you went straight to "lol you think we're partners????" when surely you knew it was multiball

kinda weird

Well that was a quick change in vote from dunnestral. Yuck.

*whispers seductively in your ear*
Do it baby, no one's watching

oh, right. i didn't like anything ThinkBig posted, that's what i was forgetting.
VOTE: ThinkBig

Finally

This strikes me as weird, not pushing thinkbig at all but "finally" when a lone vote is on him

PeregrineV here reminds me of another game, where he was scum. Overall useless in this game, making what he thinks are funny/witty remarks. I think there's a good chance he's scum, and would lynch him, much like thinkbig.

Brian skies is lacking in game solviness from what I expect (I know he'll respond saying it's day 1) possible scum

Fro99er feels like town

So people I would lynch today include: Thinkbig, PeregrineV, Vifam, Papa Zito

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I mainly want people to look from 82-~90

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He just said "that kind" and referred to something I had just posted, instead of whatever he was initially on about

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I don't know why I deleted it, but why do you have me outside your lynchpile even though you list me as probscum?

Better choices

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I feel like you have a skewed perception of me based on me getting to replace 30+ pages into a game and finding scum relatively quickly.

Probably

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PeregrineV here reminds me of another game, where he was scum. Overall useless in this game, making what he thinks are funny/witty remarks. I think there's a good chance he's scum, and would lynch him, much like thinkbig

LinK?

UNVOTE:

I'm not feeling the PZ read, but your reply to Brian just now makes me think you are town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071

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I'm not so sure about Dunn's point about Vifam ignoring stuff, i don't understand the scum motivation behind it

It's not scum motivation, it's just what happens

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why are you scum reading Vifam then?

Reason hasn't changed

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bad

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I saw the rest of your reads as well

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and he doesn't take a definitive stance anywhere

Untrue btw; I clearly state that thinkbig is scum and vifam is a top suspect, and that he pairs well with thinkbig

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Also, notice how Desperado ignored by comment to him about Dunn.

He's still responding to it

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Why are you looking at association before any real info has been revealed?

Also, notice how Desperado ignored by comment to him about Dunn.

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^So what do you think of my replace in?

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Fire didn't do anything, so you are your own slot.

...? But Malachite didn't do anything either

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that game with the planets

Not sure what game is being referred to btw

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that game with the planets

Not sure what game is being referred to btw

Bunch of neighborhoods, we elected a boss each night, that was the only way we could use our powers.

I think I probably wasn't in a game like that

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so cocky

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@Dunn can you give us something mor substantial?

?

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PeregrineV here reminds me of another game, where he was scum. Overall useless in this game, making what he thinks are funny/witty remarks. I think there's a good chance he's scum, and would lynch him, much like thinkbig

LinK?

UNVOTE:

I'm not feeling the PZ read, but your reply to Brian just now makes me think you are town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071

Did you link the wrong game? I don't see the resemblance in his play between the two games. I do think he's scummy though.

Well I was reminded of that game and I remember I called him out as scum early in that game too

Maybe you just don't have what it takes Brian

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Are you making fun of me vifam?

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What is that

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talking about the names in brackets

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people on ThinkBig, which i think is weird af cos he hasnt been able to play for the last 5 days (hopefully he'll be back online tomorrow).

I thought you thought he was suspicious earlier?

Him not being here doesn't give him a free pass where votes fly off him. I'm willing to wait.

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With regards to Dunnstrals 392 I agree that ThinkBigs behaviour is similar to how he played in as scum in the game 663 (#663). I wouldn't say I'm "certain" (as you put it) but I would happily join his wagon later today.

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Weren't scum guaranteed a 5 star role as well? just wondering.

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Weird that you claimed though
Not sure I want to lynch Thinkbig if he's claiming 5 star though

But that role... how does it help town? Just a roleblocker and then self-bp

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Wait, people chose colors??? Does that mean anything

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zzzzzzz lets lynch Chara

why

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TB is town af after that. I know exactly how he's feeling. He's invincible, got an awesome role, and wanted to share it to everyone, haha. I don't see scum making that move like that. Also, it allows him to not have to necessarily keep up with the game right away (he was gone for a while; he's probably not caught up) and insures his safety for the day because we aren't lynching that Day 1.

ugh

To me he feels more like annoying town who says dumb stuff and is lynchbait

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The 6 of us not on one of the main two wagons probably need to think about switching over. These smaller wagons aren't going to happen.

Nah, I don't want to lynch TB

somebody needs to explain why not_chara is a good vote before deadline hits; I'm not considering voting for it as of now.

VOTE: Aj The Epic

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He has some fake interactions concerning Dunn/Vax, he's also shown no real progression with his scumread on Vax but says he's willing to vote him earlier. His vote on TB is kinda weak too and his play overall just feels like he's floating his reads around potential wagons

who are you talking about/to

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V/LA until Tuesday. Busy with the holidays.

I'll respond to your case after I get home from the Hanukkah party. Your case against me is bad and you should feel bad.

I apologize for my inactivity. I have a lot to catch up on. Since I'm at L-1, I will claim:

Vanilla Town.

I am working. Please don't hammer until I get back.

In order to call it contrived, you have to believe that Alisae was attempting to appear genuinely dismayed.

What good is a reaction test if you're not at least trying to come off as genuinely dismayed?

==

Back to work. See you all around 11 PM EST

Getting ready for Shabbat. It has been a crazy week for me. I had two weddings to attend last week. Next week will be a lot less busy and so I can be more active, especially with the legal holiday on Monday.

UNVOTE:

For now. I'll post a full updated read list when I return.

V/LA until Monday

ThingBig, still want you to get around to elaborating on Desperado and Alisea.

Will do that tomorrow. I'm finally off work tomorrow and have nothing going on. For now, it is late and I do have to get up at 5 am for synagogue. Should be back after that.

Will post when I get home. Just needed to take a day off.

I will. I just needed a little break from the game. I'm probably gonna be lynched anyway.

Sorry for not posting last night. Didn't get home until 1:30 and had to wake up at 5.

@ThingBig - If you're town here you're going to need to make this game your top priority right now; there's a decent possibility you're getting lynched here today and if not today tomorrow. So if you're town you need to actually provide content and your thought process to actually show it to us.

I will. I've been extremely busy this week and am going back to school on Monday.

No. No one should self vote.

Be home in about two hours. Should respond more then

TB as scum in another game

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that game with the planets

Not sure what game is being referred to btw

Bunch of neighborhoods, we elected a boss each night, that was the only way we could use our powers.

I think I probably wasn't in a game like that

You were. We were. I'll dig for it later.

Are you talking about dragon age?

How is that "The game with the planets" man

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It just hit me

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Fuck it. Town deserves to lose this game.

VOTE: TB

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what was dumb about it?

even in the game thinkbig provided he didnt self vote as town

but he certainly did as scum in the game that me/think/dunn/hans just finished

This is true

We can hope he was gambiting and not town giving up at slight pressure

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I thought tb was hammered too

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I'd be ok with aj

Sneaking suspicion that tb is town but I wouldn't oppose his lynch

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I agree with 1103

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I feel good about aj being scum looking at what Brian is saying and mentally comparing it to when I saw him as town

I don't put NC in that anywhere

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well well well

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based on brian's flip and a quick examination of iso's

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

I think this looks like his partner. Otherwise, I'd vote him considering he could be other faction scum as well

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The way guyinfreezer talks to brian

I'd say there's a bit of talking past each other and then a bit of responding to unnatural things (?) in their isos

Just a feeling

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I bet desperado thinks he's cool coming in here and placing a naked vote without saying anything else

well, you're not

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That was your second mistake desperado

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Really? I feel like aj is more likely scum just between the two of them

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He's saying you're going to be blocked again

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and me

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GiF brought it up

probably because he killed superhans

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Tbh if i had a killing ability i would stab dunnstral regardless of my alignment and never look back.

No you wouldn't have, I didn't pay you much attention day 1

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But man I actually gotta read the whole game eventually now.

you really don't need to

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you looked like a player who is fun to nightkill randomly just to see the reaction in the dead thread.

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I want to lynch GIF

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I guess he's scummy

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I think Chara is scum but the fact that the only active players are on his wagon prob means something

I'm voting GiF. I have a strong feeling that they are scum

The thing I like about Dunnstral is that he isn't afraid to take strong, controversial stances.

I don't need to be strong and controversial, I just need to be right

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Nobody has actually provided reasons why GiF isn't scum. just hopped onto not chara

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GiF could be scum

Why do you think he was Brian's partner specifically

Gif's interactions with Brian, and that's where Brian acknowledges him where otherwise he doesn't really

Looks like they ignore each other than talk for the sake of talking

Why do you think we're wrong about Chara?

I don't know why he's this consensus scumread

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Does it help if you know Prince Lyon = Not Chara?

They made 2 posts then replaced out...?

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So no it doesn't mean anything to me, am I missing something?

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So we're voting not chara solely on something brian did?

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Yeah I can't agree to that

I'd be willing to vote for aj/pers maybe

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I'm on the wrong side of that line Desperado.

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Vax isn't voting me yet for whatever reason

Dunns in this game... he likes to rofl-lol-wut-opps hammer ppl.

no I don't

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Let's lynch gif

just saw the claim

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I'm against lynching nc

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I think he's town and people are dodging a gif wagon

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Note: GIF isn't voting/doesn't have an opinion right now

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why

there's no good analysis to suggest otherwise

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Oops

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Let's lynch perescumv next

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I need a pile of dead AJs and Charas first.

God I wish I was a vig in this game I'd be doing SO MUCH WORK

I might be willing to lynch aj. Not Chara

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Votecount 1-11

Malachite(1): PeregrineV
Gammagooey(2): ThinkBig, Vaxkiller
Superhans (2): Boonskiies, Brian Skies
ThinkBig (3): GuyInFreezer, Not Chara. Papa Zito
Vaxkiller (1): Gammagooey,
Brian Skies (1): Dunnstral,
Not Chara (2): Desperado, Vifam
Dunnstral (2): Fro99er, Superhans
With 15 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch/no lynch.
Not Voting (1): Malachite

Malachite has 7ish hours to pick up her prod before being replaced.

Deadline for Day One is: (expired on 2017-02-23 18:53:43)

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PV, do none of these wagons interest you? Or are you just gonna sit on your Mala vote? Your entire iso is full of jokes with no content and now you're just sitting on a slot that may not even continue to exist in this game.

Based on Brian wanting any wagon not his partner, I'd say AJ, Gamma, Vax, and NotChara, and Dunn are all not Red Scum.

Leaves Desp, Vifam, Frogger, Zito, Boon.

Not sure I agree with this reasoning

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oh I see

desperado was scum the whole time

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not not not not chara

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so no, I don't want to lynch them

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oh I see

desperado was scum the whole time

Based on my conversation with him about Boon day1, I don't think so.

Here we have peregrine only considering desperado for one team

probably because he's scum on the other team

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And he keeps going on about brian because that's the only maf he's looking for

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yea

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Don't croak on me tonight and we can lynch peregrinev

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VOTE: Peregrinev

he croaked

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i don't care

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I want to lynch peregrinev

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I want to lynch peregrinev

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Alright everybody pile onto pv ^^^

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Also I have something to confess.

you're mafia? I'd rather you played this one out

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Thing is I cant see PV being partners with anyone unless he's lone scum rn, everyone seems to be scumreading him atm

i'm not

What do you think about the jailkeep claim

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Thing is I cant see PV being partners with anyone unless he's lone scum rn, everyone seems to be scumreading him atm

i'm not

What do you think about the jailkeep claim

Why would he lie? If we lynch PV and he flips town, where does that get AJ? A lynch ticket. Not see why he would lie.

I never accused anyone of lying and was asking desperado

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I like to think that this day reloader is in fact town orientated and not both scum teams having a reloader of some sort.

I think that role stuff is fully random aside from town being gauranteed a 5 star if there are none

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Disagree on desperado "scum slip" I understood what he was saying

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But his alignment doesn't effect his character

theoretically both scum on one team could get refilling powers

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can we hammer

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(And I'm looking for feedback on the gacha mechanic so please feel free to also post that. I think in the future I'd run the gacha setup with singleball and make colors matter more.)

...I don't think I liked that

Though I never even got to pick and I was one of like 4 vanillas

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viewtopic.php?f=90&t=70507

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Vifam's 5 star role was way better than, say, Thinkbigs btw