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Reply's in red, but on another note.In post 101, Aronis wrote:My first act as a conftown innocent child (see post #94 if you have doubts about my alignment) is to form a townblock
anyone who wishes to join should fill out the application below and post it in this thread or the dark PT
Spoiler: Application
My brothers and sisters, it comes to my attention that there is a TRAITOR to the town within the dark side's midst. I implore you all that the proper vote for today, be on ye olde TRAITOR to the town!
Vote Bulbazak
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Why is the word traitor a bad thing to you?In post 262, Titus wrote:@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?-
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Ahhhh. I gotcha now. See, I know the individuals in the light side, and I'm attempting to pick up a read on them 1 by 1 in our PT as well as their actions in thread. By the word "traitor", my meaning goes to that person being scum. I'm sure there's a "traitor" in the light side as well, I just don't know whom yet. But I will take a read/peek into what I can to sniff out scum. I will not falter in rooting out traitors to this game!In post 267, Titus wrote:
Town has no logical reason to consider one and sparking said conversation can easily be a crumb.In post 265, EddieFenix wrote:
Why is the word traitor a bad thing to you?In post 262, Titus wrote:@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?
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Vote 79 CE
Let's see how this turns out. I've had a gut scum read of 79 CE for a bit, but I needed to sort out a couple other reads. Titus and Ved have hit my scum list. Gin is null-town. Bulb I feel is gonna dagger me in the back by being scum (cause he's cheeky like that ), even if I'm currently reading him town (even with my dramatic opening vote post). Dramonic is town. Zeus is town. Gin is town. Gamma Emerald is town. The rest who aren't here sit at null.-
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I knew you were bluffing. Is this seriously the best case you're going to put up? This "GOTCHA" post?? It would be hilarious if it weren't pathetic.In post 553, Vedith wrote:I was lying. But nice one on scum claiming putting someone to L1 when I said I would Lol hammer them, EddieFenix.-
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Confidence in this ploy will get you nowhere but the gallows or you just get labeled and ignored for the rest of the game for wasting a day vig shot and ending the day prematurely. If you're doing this to cause chaos and shake the voting tree, it's not a wise or smart plan at all. You've put yourself in a lose-lose/FUBAR situation.In post 584, Vedith wrote:
I've seen an image of a donkey sitting at a coputer desk playing Counter Strike on this site.In post 583, EddieFenix wrote:Your bluffing on this dayvig shot. Seen this gambit a few times on this site.
We can try to see who's got the crazy scenes all we like, but you're flipping... And flipping scum!
The issue there being is that I'm not going to flip scum. I've even crumbed what I am in the application. Watch and be amazed.Gamma Emerald wrote:
Even if Eddie flips scum?In post 559, Rautherdir wrote:You know if it actually works we're lynching you Vedith...-
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Are you HONESTLY attempting to tie me to scum from...In post 667, MathBlade wrote:Based on this VCA Rauthedir reads like Town newb, Aronis reads like lynchbait, Vedith always annoys me as Town, EddieFenix reads like a limp in vote after not providing more details like I asked. Titus and dramonic seem like scum partners.
Thinking Titus dramonic EddieFenix.
In post 239, MathBlade wrote:In post 237, EddieFenix wrote:@Bulb I'm all caught up. Just relaxin on page 10
Objection!!!!!!
EddieFenix has not provided evidence your honor! Show him the tutorial and how he presents evidence!-
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In post 702, MathBlade wrote:
I am not TrYING to tie you to anything I am saying that you're scum for not answering questions directed your way.In post 682, EddieFenix wrote:
Are you HONESTLY attempting to tie me to scum from...In post 667, MathBlade wrote:Based on this VCA Rauthedir reads like Town newb, Aronis reads like lynchbait, Vedith always annoys me as Town, EddieFenix reads like a limp in vote after not providing more details like I asked. Titus and dramonic seem like scum partners.
Thinking Titus dramonic EddieFenix.
In post 239, MathBlade wrote:In post 237, EddieFenix wrote:@Bulb I'm all caught up. Just relaxin on page 10
Objection!!!!!!
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I could care less about what happened before the official kick off post from Mastina happened. Confirmation bias holds no weight with me. The idea of "town meta" and "mafia meta" also hold no weight with me, because people can wear great masks when playing either side. I go on 2 basic instincts when playing, gut and logic. I've been known to tunnel and create dissonance within the hydra that Bulba and I share. My reads could flip tomorrow morning depending on how things shape up overnight.In post 842, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Because it's fucking 30 pages into Day 1 and many of these "strong" reads I'm seeing seem to have formulated within the first 10 pages. I'm sorry, but it's almost certain that most strong reads people have are due to pure, unchecked confirmation bias. The entire institution of Mafia is practically built on a foundation of confirmation bias, which is why I've come to hate the game.The only reasons I continue playing are because I've got some perverse addiction to the game and because I'm desperately clinging to the idea that there must surely be some way for Mafia to be anything more than a months-long dice roll to see who wins.In post 841, EddieFenix wrote:@Kelvin, how is having strong reads weird?
I'm really not trying to insult everyone playing, but none of you make any goddamn sense to me. You might dress it up a little differently, but the arguments I see from everyone are not much better than the Vedith's "Aronis used Red" argument. The other heads don't feel this way (or, at least, not as extremely), but I do. And since I'd rather not be a toxic presence in this game, I've kept posts to a minimum, rather than go on various tirades, because once I start, I have a really hard time stopping. And that's not productive for anybody. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to get off to class.
-Kelvin
Making sense... Well, I'm not sure that'll ever happen with anything tbh. However....
There's still PLENTY of day left and to be perfectly honest, the idea of "it's A or B, vote here now" without potentially seeing an option C that could easily be thrown onto the table is honestly problematic to me.Titus wrote:
If you're on this list, the game is stalling because of you. The game has decided that either 79 CE or Aronis needs lynching. Please pick one.In post 700, mastina wrote:Rautherdir - 1 (dramonic)
Mathblade - 1 (79 CE)
Vedith - 1 (Rautherdir)
Not Voting - 3 (Aelita, FourTrouble, Bulbazak)Unvote. I'm going to drag this out to see if we can't drag more scum to light. Because one of 2 things is going to realistically happen at this rate with C being theLARGEST OUTLIER EVER
A.) 79 CE or Aronis will actively swing and we'll get to analyze things from their flips and I don't want to rush ending the day at this point. (out of the 2, 79 CE is getting my vote again when the time comes to properly end the day, just so we're clear on that).
B.) Another person(s) of interest is going to see a fire lit under their feet which may lead to their demise. Mafia is fun and swingy game like that and to me is where we start to see true intentions come out.
C.) We majority vote no vote and see where the NK lands and go from there.
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Oh baby baby, I'd LOVE to hear the case on why I am scum. So please bring that to the table and I'll gladly dance.In post 1358, A2 wrote:
nancy you should know that I am lazy as shit.In post 1353, 79 CE wrote:Aslan, are you not going to catch up on the thread?
I'd like to go over reads with you and I can't do that when you're operating off incomplete information. Have you read anything besides Texcat yet?
What are you reads right now outside Texcat?
If you want me to ISO someone, give me names and I will ISO them.
As for my reads what I got for you currently is that Kelvin, Math, Quantum, Aelita, Titus, Vedith, Aronis, You, Dramonic town
Snarky, Rauth Null/Haven't Bothered to Sort
Eddie, Texcat, TB, BTD Scum
Gin v Bulb TvS
BTW Vedith you're falling off when it comes to the town charts just for not appearing.
Are we reading the same game?!
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So a completely flimsy case hinged on being unnoticed, adding much, just being there sparingly, tone being bad and being full of myself because I'm calling out the fact that you're calling me scum. Alright....In post 1838, A2 wrote:
My case is that you've been irrelevant and unnoticed and you haven't been adding much to the game. You've just been kinda there. So because of that you are probably scum.In post 1837, EddieFenix wrote:Oh baby baby, I'd LOVE to hear the case on why I am scum. So please bring that to the table and I'll gladly dance.
Tone here is bad, it sounds like you're trying to sound towny and full of yourself but it doesn't seem believable.
Did you miss the fake dayvig shot thrown in my direction from Vedith? Because in all honesty had that actively went off, he'd have been asshole deep in a world of pressure because of not only wasting his shot on day 1, but on town day 1. Wouldn't have gotten much information from my death because of your previous points of being unnoticed or adding much, would have it? Why shoot me to begin with for being able to notice you were lying about claiming to hammer at L-1, after also stating earlier that you'd shoot Gin with a shot IF you had it? From that fake day vig shot at post 558, you can see a change/shift in the active game. A scum read of Rauth is now starting to come across as town for some people.
Now, going back over that I still consider Vedith my #1 scum read, but I could easily talk myself into seeing Ved as town/dumb town on the other hand. He's confident that his shot will work, it'll flip me scum, and he sticks to his guns even after finding out it's not going to work as he intended. But, the complications with trying to justify that come with too many questions. Why make that fake day vig ploy in the first place? What does it accomplish? How does this affect the game going forward? Does my alignment flipping town change YOUR (the rest of the town's) perspective on Veds play?
In all honesty, I DO NOT like this post AT ALL
79CE had a SHIT ton of pressure on them that just evaporated, as you can see by the vote count at the moment. Also, add to the fact that Ved kept doubling down on something that hasn't sit right since it happened.In post 582, Vedith wrote:Also, my shot ends the day, so CE you owe me one.
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I'm not VT and neither am I essentially a VT. How does that make you feel?In post 578, Rautherdir wrote:I don't know.
After reading the rules some more, the dayvig wouldn't trigger until dusk anyways. Not that it would trigger at all since, as I said, you are in the dark and everyone in the dark is essentially a Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon until they leave. Which also means I won't be pushing dramonic on that claim since I see where he is coming from.
How the does this work in explicitly stated 14 town 4 mafia? Like, if this is Ved keeping up with appearances with trying to "shake" me from his fake dayvig shot, cool. Again, sticking to guns. But, if we go long term thoughts again, what does it accomplish? Yet, we just tap dance away and move on with the game.In post 581, Vedith wrote:
I'm talking about scum not knowing their roles in the dark.In post 580, Rautherdir wrote:I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that scum have day-talk. Not sure where though.
I am not essentially a VT, and I'm not Mafia at all.In post 580, Rautherdir wrote:You are not a VT. I am almost certain no one in this game is. However, as long as you are in the dark you are essentially either a VT or Mafia Goon.
Now what?
You're not going to be able to make a case on me on about my tone in this game, that's for certain. My opening post once the day started was quite theatrical/over the top on purpose. As soon as Titus attempted to hammer down on one word in my theatrical post, I made sure to address it outright. Veds fake vig shot, I made sure to call that out for what it was, a bullshit shot. Anytime anyone has asked me to address something I have and IF by some chance I missed ANYTHING, please throw it in my face and I'll look over it and answer in time.
As for not being here/around, from sunday to yesterday, I've been a very busy man. That part I can admit. However, I can gladly now keep proper tabs on the game and dig in. I feel that I don't need to spam and have the highest post count, I'd much rather have quality posts over a quantity of posts.-
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I did see that and I am watching both of them. Mainly because I feel that it's a T+S pairing IF they are true masons. Also, cute spammer? TF does that have to do with anything?In post 1847, Titus wrote:@Eddie, Aronis tried to pass him and Rauth off as dark pt masons. You see that?
If you have a problem with Vedith shooting you, you should have a problem with aronis.
I feel there's far too many words and people are just opposing this because they don't want the cute spammer to be scum.-
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QR, what part of ploys do you not understand?In post 1867, QuantumRadius wrote:
if you're planning on dayvigging me I would prefer that you're scumreading me first...In post 1866, Vedith wrote:
No, should I?In post 1865, QuantumRadius wrote:vedith are you scumreading me?-
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Nah. Your cookie is laced.In post 1882, A2 wrote:
Um...Scum play that way a lot.In post 1846, EddieFenix wrote:So a completely flimsy case hinged on being unnoticed, adding much, just being there sparingly, tone being bad and being full of myself because I'm calling out the fact that you're calling me scum. Alright....
Did you miss the fake dayvig shot thrown in my direction from Vedith? Because in all honesty had that actively went off, he'd have been asshole deep in a world of pressure because of not only wasting his shot on day 1, but on town day 1. Wouldn't have gotten much information from my death because of your previous points of being unnoticed or adding much, would have it? Why shoot me to begin with for being able to notice you were lying about claiming to hammer at L-1, after also stating earlier that you'd shoot Gin with a shot IF you had it? From that fake day vig shot at post 558, you can see a change/shift in the active game. A scum read of Rauth is now starting to come across as town for some people.
Now, going back over that I still consider Vedith my #1 scum read, but I could easily talk myself into seeing Ved as town/dumb town on the other hand. He's confident that his shot will work, it'll flip me scum, and he sticks to his guns even after finding out it's not going to work as he intended. But, the complications with trying to justify that come with too many questions. Why make that fake day vig ploy in the first place? What does it accomplish? How does this affect the game going forward? Does my alignment flipping town change YOUR (the rest of the town's) perspective on Veds play?
Also oh wow you faked a dayvig, man you sure are special!
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You're logic is unreasonably flawed. I called out someone fake dayvig, their lying about voting at L1 and their attempt to "gotcha" me which is another unreasonably bad logical attempt at even finding mafia, and then the post about 79 CE being in their debt after their wagon dissolved. Now you're pulling this crap... Oi vey... But please, by all means, keep throwing that shade in my direction. I'll gladly keep up this dance.
Creature's your potshot about posting more than me is laughable considering 12 of the posts on page 77 alone belong to you with 9 of those in a row which could be summed up as a complete MEH.-
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Thank you for squaring that away, Mastina. Much appreciated.
So now that we have that all squared away, Aronis and Rauth, has there been ANYTHING in (I'm assuming that you have one with this question) your neighborhood? What's going on in the dark PT? Kelvin, does anyone else in the hydra have thoughts on things? Ginngie, what makes me null to you? Besides not being able to read me lol.-
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He got back from his trip here thursday morning, either caught a bug or had food poisoning, and has not really up around doing much other than relaxing. So, I know he'll be here when he gets here.In post 2175, Creature wrote:Where is Bulbazak? Haven't seen him yet.-
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In post 2242, Creature wrote:I could do Eddie.
I don't think I would want to lynch someone from dark.
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I have 4 people who read me as scum (Vedith, Creature, A2, and Titus) and I'm not seeing a direct proper correlation as to why they see/feel that way. If anything, I'd be willing to lynch in that pool because 2/4 are scum reads of mine (Ved and Titus). However, I don't see town wanting to string up either of those two since they're honed in on Aronis. I'll wait and see how the last hours play out if anything.In post 2285, QuantumRadius wrote:there's no associations in an Eddie lynch
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Where does this read on me come from?In post 2317, SnarkySnowman wrote:Mostly caught up. Have some reads.
Town {79 CE, Ali, Bulba}
Townlean {Titus, DrCirno, Textcat, Rauth (1989), FKB}
Nulltown {Mathblade, Vedith, Creature, QR}
Nullscum {BTD6_Maker, Eddie Fenix}
Scumlean {dramonic}
Scum {Ginngie, Aronis}
Might just be in the running for best quote 2017 so far.Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:
Everyone's reads are ridiculous. Welcome to Mafia. I'm still all for lynching Snarky, but if we're lynching for bad reads, we've got no shortage of players to choose from.In post 2318, MathBlade wrote:Yeah definitely okay with lynching Snarky his reads are ridiculous.
-Kelvin
Alright Dram, what's your current reads?dramonic wrote:ill switch if it comes to that.
lynching snarky is never a bad choice.
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Shot reads don't mean Scum.In post 2318, MathBlade wrote:Yeah definitely okay with lynching Snarky his reads are ridiculous.
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And neither is a "I have more posts than X," so post count isn't going to cut it here. I -want- to give you the benefit of the doubt here because I feel your wagon right now is very opportunistic scum trying to stir the pot.In post 2432, SnarkySnowman wrote:BTD6, Eddie Fenix, and dramonic all have fewer posts than me, and I'm like 2 posts behind textcat. They have a combined total of 2 or 3 posts in the last 10 pages or something like that. None of them are replacements where I was. Lurker argument doesn't really cut it :/
Titus comes from gut and in all honesty QR's pbpa hit a lot of points I would have made. Ved, I've mentioned why I think he's scum on more than 1 occasion. So you've read my posts for diddly squat, sir.Bulbazak wrote:
Explain your Vedith and Titus scumreads, because frankly, they've came out of nowhere, and you've explained diddly squat.In post 2289, EddieFenix wrote:If anything, I'd be willing to lynch in that pool because 2/4 are scum reads of mine (Ved and Titus).
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Later part of my quote mate . I feel the same way right now. I won't be moving my vote anywhere anytime soon and I might miss deadline tomorrow because of appointments. Buuuuuuut, I'm definitely keeping an eye on things today/tonight.In post 2441, SnarkySnowman wrote:
It's not like I'm saying post count is everything - textcat for instance has good content and same number of posts as me. I'm saying the lurker argument for lynching me is opportunistic and not very townieIn post 2439, EddieFenix wrote:
And neither is a "I have more posts than X," so post count isn't going to cut it here. I -want- to give you the benefit of the doubt here because I feel your wagon right now is very opportunistic scum trying to stir the pot.In post 2432, SnarkySnowman wrote:BTD6, Eddie Fenix, and dramonic all have fewer posts than me, and I'm like 2 posts behind textcat. They have a combined total of 2 or 3 posts in the last 10 pages or something like that. None of them are replacements where I was. Lurker argument doesn't really cut it :/-
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Why...? Especially given if you're town, it can be helpful to have you around. Your death gives no information other than, "yo I volunteered as tribute!"In post 2495, DrCirno wrote:To be honest I would volunteer to be lynched today cos my role is downright fucking useless but hey lynching myself is not in my win condition.-
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Bulb's scum or incredibly bad town. As someone who -knows- your play style, how you painstakingly read the thread and people over, you of all people know my play style the best and where I come from and how I do things on both sides of the coin. This isn't AtE at this point so don't you dare try and use that for this argument either.
This is where I spend the most time analyzing Ved and his actions. I also went back thru your ISO. You have Titus as a shaky scum read, Ved as a scum read, and have had 79CE as another scum read even complaining about how hard it was to get the 79 CE wagon off the ground and when it evaporates, BOOP. Nothin. Now you're coming in here and leaping on my wagon? Opportunistic sneaking much? And IF you're town, pull your head out of your ass. You KNOW I'm like a dog with a bone when I get a scum read and Ved is my #1. I can't get that today, I know that. So I'll move onto #2.In post 1846, EddieFenix wrote:
So a completely flimsy case hinged on being unnoticed, adding much, just being there sparingly, tone being bad and being full of myself because I'm calling out the fact that you're calling me scum. Alright....In post 1838, A2 wrote:
My case is that you've been irrelevant and unnoticed and you haven't been adding much to the game. You've just been kinda there. So because of that you are probably scum.In post 1837, EddieFenix wrote:Oh baby baby, I'd LOVE to hear the case on why I am scum. So please bring that to the table and I'll gladly dance.
Tone here is bad, it sounds like you're trying to sound towny and full of yourself but it doesn't seem believable.
Did you miss the fake dayvig shot thrown in my direction from Vedith? Because in all honesty had that actively went off, he'd have been asshole deep in a world of pressure because of not only wasting his shot on day 1, but on town day 1. Wouldn't have gotten much information from my death because of your previous points of being unnoticed or adding much, would have it? Why shoot me to begin with for being able to notice you were lying about claiming to hammer at L-1, after also stating earlier that you'd shoot Gin with a shot IF you had it? From that fake day vig shot at post 558, you can see a change/shift in the active game. A scum read of Rauth is now starting to come across as town for some people.
Now, going back over that I still consider Vedith my #1 scum read, but I could easily talk myself into seeing Ved as town/dumb town on the other hand. He's confident that his shot will work, it'll flip me scum, and he sticks to his guns even after finding out it's not going to work as he intended. But, the complications with trying to justify that come with too many questions. Why make that fake day vig ploy in the first place? What does it accomplish? How does this affect the game going forward? Does my alignment flipping town change YOUR (the rest of the town's) perspective on Veds play?
In all honesty, I DO NOT like this post AT ALL
79CE had a SHIT ton of pressure on them that just evaporated, as you can see by the vote count at the moment. Also, add to the fact that Ved kept doubling down on something that hasn't sit right since it happened.In post 582, Vedith wrote:Also, my shot ends the day, so CE you owe me one.
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I'm not VT and neither am I essentially a VT. How does that make you feel?In post 578, Rautherdir wrote:I don't know.
After reading the rules some more, the dayvig wouldn't trigger until dusk anyways. Not that it would trigger at all since, as I said, you are in the dark and everyone in the dark is essentially a Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon until they leave. Which also means I won't be pushing dramonic on that claim since I see where he is coming from.
How the does this work in explicitly stated 14 town 4 mafia? Like, if this is Ved keeping up with appearances with trying to "shake" me from his fake dayvig shot, cool. Again, sticking to guns. But, if we go long term thoughts again, what does it accomplish? Yet, we just tap dance away and move on with the game.In post 581, Vedith wrote:
I'm talking about scum not knowing their roles in the dark.In post 580, Rautherdir wrote:I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that scum have day-talk. Not sure where though.
I am not essentially a VT, and I'm not Mafia at all.In post 580, Rautherdir wrote:You are not a VT. I am almost certain no one in this game is. However, as long as you are in the dark you are essentially either a VT or Mafia Goon.
Now what?
You're not going to be able to make a case on me on about my tone in this game, that's for certain. My opening post once the day started was quite theatrical/over the top on purpose. As soon as Titus attempted to hammer down on one word in my theatrical post, I made sure to address it outright. Veds fake vig shot, I made sure to call that out for what it was, a bullshit shot. Anytime anyone has asked me to address something I have and IF by some chance I missed ANYTHING, please throw it in my face and I'll look over it and answer in time.
As for not being here/around, from sunday to yesterday, I've been a very busy man. That part I can admit. However, I can gladly now keep proper tabs on the game and dig in. I feel that I don't need to spam and have the highest post count, I'd much rather have quality posts over a quantity of posts.
I watched you and Titus dance in the early stages and you put Titus's feet to the flames on a lot, and I can honestly/earnestly see where you come from. Calling out 1 word in my obviously overly dramatic post, which I might add you yourself dropped the hammer on 309
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Please no...In post 262, Titus wrote:@Eddie, why shouldn't we lynch you for saying the word traitor?
Titus, I really want to believe you're town, but you're making this so hard...
I'll finish the rest in a bit. I have some serious work I need to do first.
And after you got back from your flight the fire has just been gone. I've also watched Titus just float on thru the game, even opportunistically just now coming in and voting for me. No one else really applying pressure, she didn't even ask why I saw her as a scum read. Too many flags for me. So if I can get a Titus lynch today, I will. Cause the rest of these wagons have been complete and utter shit.
Anytime someone has stepped up and said I was scum, I have asked why to challenge them on it. And if I have to post from my phone tomorrow while out and about, I will. I won't go down without a fight.-
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You're safe. It's my head on the block. 3 of the people who were voting you, excitedly leaped to my wagon. I have 6 votes (that I counted). I'm the voyeur (used the word pervert from the survey that Aronis posted to crumb it) and my wagon is absolute garbage.In post 2580, SnarkySnowman wrote:Worst part is I may still be lynched anyway :/-
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We must be reading 2 totally separate games. Ved's actions/posts don't hold weight and you know that. But keep trying to delude the rest of the people into thinking that it's fine for his actions/posts to be bad.In post 2591, Bulbazak wrote:@Eddie: I do know you, and that's how I've reached the conclusion you're scum. You're being overtheatrical, but there's no real essence or core to anything that you do. There's no meat. Your Vedith scumread? Yeah, I missed that was in anyway serious, because you essentially just discussed a fake vig, which is not alignment indicative. And that's what it boils down to essentially: You're focusing on worthless crap like the fake vig or mechanics, and you're not actually digging in like I know you can. You're putting on a show. I know you can read me if I'm overtly town, which was why you not acknowledging that at the beginning of the game bothered me. Because I know for sure that you of all people would have picked up on that. I also knew that if you were unable to post in the main thread that you'd at least post in the PT and be using that for all it's worth. Hence why I was asking those questions. And you weren't. You've had reasons for not having time to post a lot this game day, but guess what? So did I. And nothing's changed much from the time I was up there to now, so that can't be why you avoided the thread.
In essence, you're a fireball when town and try to blend in when scum. And I just haven't seen that fire.
I've been talking about my growing scumread in the PT for awhile.In post 2574, Titus wrote:
Kinda where I am at but Bulba voting Eddie creeps me outIn post 2573, Frosted Kelvin Bran wrote:Whatever, we can at least give the claimed Cop a chance to prove himself.
UNVOTE: SnarkySnowman
VOTE: EddieFenix
-Kelvin
Oh, and Eddie, Voyeaur is a weak as crap role, so you definitely weren't laying low for that.
I'm not using the Light PT because I know scum Bulb's move set and have kept that in the back of my head since the beginning. I don't want to tip my hand because I know as a scum player, you take charge of your team. I'll pass on using something that can destroy my ability to hone in and tackle your game. Add to the fact that most of the meat has come from a few players, with a lot of the pages at the tail end of threads being people battling for page tops, my bloody eyes glaze over that last part 90% of the time where one entire PAGE my eyes glazed over from Creature spam.
Voyeur is not weak as you try and paint it to be. So don't you dare try to discredit that fact. This has got scum Bulb painted all over it at this rate. You know my lynch sucks and you leapt at the wagon early on to hide yourself in it. If I swing, when I flip town, Bulb and Titus need looked into. Because both of them have been "not feeling right" about one another since the start and it's like touch and go with those two. Ved I still hold as my #1 scum read.-
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So the person who said they'd sacrifice themselves just because can be easily read as scum? You wot mate?In post 2669, Creature wrote:So, if you don't want Eddie, I'd support you on DrCirno (which I can easily see as scum) and BTD6_maker (though I think he'd be just a policy lynch).-
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I point out the fact that besides the dayvig, coasting from Ved as well as the attempt at "gotcha scum' and the 79 CE owes me posts did NOT sit right with me after the attempted shot. Nothing Ved has done has been town indicative this game. Also, when/where did I say ROLE fishing me? I exposed my role myself and would have no problems. I'm going on the lines of knowing my thoughts and where I'm going/what I'm going to do. You take charge of your scum team, so you can maneuver around people like chess. TBH, the light pt for me has been just meh. It helped me sort QR and Mathblade. They're town to me. I also know you'd not be stupid enough to vote for Snarky for "compromise" reasons, especially with his cop claim. Nothing stopped me from participating bar my v/la that I had to take for personal stuff. I'm saying my eyes start to glaze over toward the bottom when I see spam posts trying to claim the page top.In post 2638, Bulbazak wrote:
When did I say they held weight? The Aronis push was crap, and we tangled about it early on. Since then, he's kinda been here and there, but there really wasn't anything substantial for me to get a read, especially since my early Dark interactions with him suggested that he might not be scum. Could he be? Maybe. But the fake vig thing is not why, and you know that.In post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: We must be reading 2 totally separate games. Ved's actions/posts don't hold weight and you know that. But keep trying to delude the rest of the people into thinking that it's fine for his actions/posts to be bad.
And you've also been around long enough to see fake vigs in action and not be phased by them. So why did you make it a point to kick up so much fuss about one?
WHAT?!? Are you saying that you're not using the Light PT to scumhunt because...I might use my partners, as scum, to find out all your secretsIn post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: I'm not using the Light PT because I know scum Bulb's move set and have kept that in the back of my head since the beginning. I don't want to tip my hand because I know as a scum player, you take charge of your team.somehow? I mean, that makes no freaking sense. For one, I don't recall this game having mafia day chat. And I even went back to look at the rules, and I didn't see anything there. Now, I may have missed it, but you're telling me that you're not using the light PT because you're afraid that I'd be actively role fishingyou?!
Come on, Eddie. You're going to have to do better than that.
What about using it to figure out the other players in your PT or to further scumhunt? You have freaking Titus and Gin in there! You're telling me that you decided not to figure them out early because you were scared of me before the game even started? Bull crap!In post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: I'll pass on using something that can destroy my ability to hone in and tackle your game.
And what stopped you from participating before Creature joined?In post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: Add to the fact that most of the meat has come from a few players, with a lot of the pages at the tail end of threads being people battling for page tops, my bloody eyes glaze over that last part 90% of the time where one entire PAGE my eyes glazed over from Creature spam.
Wow. You watch somebody and see what actions are performed on them, but not who did it. Yes, you are just as powerful as a cop, watcher, or tracker. Even hiders quake in fear at your awesome powers.In post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: Voyeur is not weak as you try and paint it to be. So don't you dare try to discredit that fact.
You think I'm hiding? Seriously, I come out of nowhere and vote you, and somehow I'm trying to be sneaky? You know my scum game better dude. We've had discussions on optimal scum play. And you know that if I was scum, there's no way I'd come out of nowhere to jump on a sudden wagon onIn post 2619, EddieFenix wrote: You know my lynch sucks and you leapt at the wagon early on to hide yourself in it.youof all people. I'd either jump on Snarky or Aronis for compromise reasons or try to start Texcat back up.That'dbe hiding, not this crap you're trying to peddle here.
My vote lasted on you too long at the start? Weak as hell to start. My activity? I keep a pulse on the game and knew it was going to be a long day 1 because of how swingy things always are. I'm getting my hands dirty by challenging those who have this terrible scum read on me and at this point. You're parroting most of the arguments being thrown in my direction at this rate, just attempting to wall it and make it look pretty.Bulbazak wrote:In the Dark PT, Bulbazak wrote: It started with his vote on me. I know we have kind of an ongoing joke, but I was very active during pregame, and there was enough there for him to get a reliable read on me. That's why I prodded him on that at the beginning. I thought if it was just a joke, fine, but that vote should have gone back off rather quickly, since Eddie knows me enough to have spotted how transparantly town I was being. He let that vote ride way too long. Then there's his lack of activity in the thread. I didn't make a big deal of it, because he kinda had a bit of an excuse here and there, enough to give him some leeway. First there was E3, then I was away and he was doing the lion's share of the streaming for Critical Reset... But I found time to post during my trip, and even with him having some additional responsibilities, that shouldn't have kept him from posting. And I haven't gotten back to taking over the streaming since I got back, and he's been able to post more, so there was nothing stopping him during those two weeks from actually being active in the thread. Eddie likes to keep his head down as scum. That's why he hid in the hydra and scum day chat in Hunger Games, letting me do all the talking. He thinks he's a great manipulator, but he doesn't like to interact too much. As town, he gets his hands dirty, and he's not afraid to fight. Ever since he's started posting regularly, Eddie hasn't been saying anything of substance. He'd be in the middle of things and asking some hard hitting questions, not talking only about mechanics and fake vig shots. And while he's doing this, he's throwing up false bravado, which he doesn't need as town. He's putting on a show, but he's not really doing anything.
And you didn't think I at least didn't attempt to think the same way while also remaining cautious of you? This post is putting words in my mouth as well as attempting to paint me as paranoid.Bulbazak wrote:How I approached this game and Eddie: Use the PTs and pregame early to get a headstart on figuring out alignments. Give Eddie some time so that I can more accurately read him, and if town, work with him to game solve.
How Eddie wants us to believe he approached the game: Don't use PTs and don't post in the thread. Bulba IS scum. Don't question it. Don't game solve. He's out to get you Eddie. And he'll use his magical scummy powers to do so. And you're powerless to stop it.
Given that we've played in multiple Mastin games together, including Maniacal and both Hilariously Unbalanced, and given that he's never done this and always been quick to read and interact with me, am I really supposed to buy this level of bull crap paranoia he's trying to sell.-
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Titus, I was starting to come around on you TBH. But I still hold true to my read. Again, this is fine for me. I'll take a death if it means rooting out scum. Bulb needs to be top priority at this point. If he is town, he'll avenge my falling by reading deeply into it and taking those who took a case against me to the hot coals. If scum, lynch him with fire. You DONT want him alive to run the scum team. He's a very calculating player in who and who not to lynch and he'll run the scum team to a perfect victory if he can get it. I feel that QR and Math are town. I had a post way back with other reads. A2 is someone to keep an eye on. Ved needs to be dead. 79 ce needs rope as well. There's way too much coincidence going on there and I live by the Gibbs rule 39. Add to the fact they floated along and come in and vote on my wagon at the end, faaaaam. Aronis, thanks for trying to start the town block. It didn't exactly stick, BUT, build on it. FKB, I get opportunistic scum vibes from you with how you've had no true reads this game. Dramonic, btd6, sorted into town by PoE. Texcat.... null for me. Did I miss Gin? If I did, town vibe via PoE.
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Also, A2 was someone I said to watch. Gut feels scum there.In post 2710, Creature wrote:
So no scum in light or I striked scum out?In post 2705, EddieFenix wrote:Creature Poe town. Dr TOWN. Snarky, I'm believing his cop claim so town.-
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Lynching in just light though Creature...? Come on. You're not going to be able to get away with that all game. Mafia is going to move those who they see useless or widely read town scum reads to light if you go that route. Dram commenting it's a shit lynch and then just walkin out. Jeez.In post 2714, Creature wrote:Note that I just striked out the light part, because I don't feel like lynching someone from the dark part.-
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Just this. Juuuuuuust this.
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