Pokémon Generation II uPick — Game Over

Oversoul · Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:23 am

I mean unless we guessed right on the day I replaced in (which we did but you had an ability you never should have had in the first place) we were going to lose.
Anyway, I don't want to point fingers at anyone but I think from a balance perspective and the way the town played prior to me replacing in, this game was a) not enjoyable, and b) lost by the time I got here. I just expedited the inevitable.

Oversoul · Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:24 am

Still don't know why SK never voted Wisdom. I would have happily quick hammered wisdom had that happened

Wisdom · Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:24 am

That said, surrendering is a no-no in mafia. Everything can turn around. If you don't have the motivation to turn it around, replace out.

Oversoul · Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:26 am

Didn't surrender? Was still actively trying to find your buddies but guessed wrong on the Lufan/Tere thing.

I thought he was going to try and get cred for your lynch or something and he just messed up the prepared posts which is why I voted him.

Wisdom · Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:30 am

Funny thing is I didn't like that you replaced in because I figured you are yet another player mostly unfamiliar with me and familiar with muffin so you would most likely sheep him.

But the opposite happened

Oversoul · Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:31 am

Sure you could make the argument that I was reckless with my playstyle in this game (and over extended), which is true, but I never surrendered. Too many things stacked against the town by the time I showed up and mafia capitalized on that apathy/lack of motivation wonderfully. I was legitimately town reading Mac/Alchemist based on their play in comparison to the other townies.

Oversoul · Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:31 am

In post 3554, Wisdom wrote:Funny thing is I didn't like that you replaced in because I figured you are yet another player mostly unfamiliar with me and familiar with muffin so you would most likely sheep him.

But the opposite happened

no but I am probably just going to kill you anytime your post count reaches over 500 posts and you are not confirmed town.
You're like Titus in that regard. Inherently anti-town.

Wisdom · Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:33 am

eh I'm just active

Tere · Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:35 am

I'm fine with the scumboard being public.

Great experience - my 4th time ever as scum (random generator was broken on previous sites because reasons). Thanks very much for hosting and I enjoyed the flavour

A big massive scumhug to muffin because he played really well and as he will see from the scumboard the faked scum conversation he did was pretty bang on apart from including Xayzeck. Hilarious!

Enjoyed this large theme a lot but I think probably weekend V/LAs aren't really compatible with such a large and wordy game. Found it very hard to keep up, so something to consider for myself.

I am also amazed at how scummy is still above the line of town acceptability! I thought I was reeking scumbag.

Oversoul · Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:36 am

If you haven't found all of the scum by post 500, you need to stop.

It is a bell curve, Wisdom. And you're WAY off the "hump" of the bell curve.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:37 am

Play with me again, wisdom. When we're on the same team we're unstoppable. But either of our scum games beat the others' towngames.

Pedit: over soul that's not true. Wisdom posts as often as town than as scum. My theatre about wisdom's meta was legit, check that one out.

Wisdom · Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:38 am

In post 3560, Metal Sonic wrote:But either of our scum games beat the others' towngames.

I don't recall you beating me as scum?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:39 am

And finding <all of the scum> is a tough job, mate. Well, at least find 1 or 2 scum, but when they're all unflipped, you can't really tell.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:39 am

In post 3561, Wisdom wrote:
In post 3560, Metal Sonic wrote:But either of our scum games beat the others' towngames.

I don't recall you beating me as scum?

Does proxying through shos count?

Wisdom · Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:40 am

nope. That was shos fooling me like he does every time.

I kept telling mollie you're scum in the nightless though, so

Metal Sonic · Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:48 am

ah, fuck the nightless, i derped lol.

i'll get back at you

Oversoul · Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:57 am

In post 3560, Metal Sonic wrote:Pedit: over soul that's not true. Wisdom posts as often as town than as scum. My theatre about wisdom's meta was legit, check that one out.

I know. I am saying regardless of my alignment and his, at 500 posts the bell tolls for Wisdom.

Marquis · Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 5:59 am

I'm planning on running a Gen III non-uPick, traditional-style large theme sometime in the near future. (I'm staying away from uPicks for a while so there's a lot more time to work on balance and design.)

Other comments withheld.

Mac · Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:01 am

can we pre-in already?

Oversoul · Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:01 am

In post 3567, Marquis wrote:I'm planning on running a Gen III non-uPick, traditional-style large theme sometime in the near future. (I'm staying away from uPicks for a while so there's a lot more time to work on balance and design.)

Other comments withheld.

Yeah, uPicks are so hard from a modding perspective. When I did a uPick (of Pokemon actually) it was sloppy too. Hard to balance roles that you want to have versus "giving everyone a role".

I liked the first game in your pokemon series! Looked good

Alchemist21 · Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:07 am

Btw, I'm fine with releasing the mafia PT.

Professor Elm · Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:10 am

It's now public, then: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61434

pieguyn · Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:49 am

Are we still nominating dramonic for Don Corleone?

dramonic · Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:50 am

In post 3567, Marquis wrote:I'm planning on running a Gen III non-uPick, traditional-style large theme sometime in the near future. (I'm staying away from uPicks for a while so there's a lot more time to work on balance and design.)

Other comments withheld.

You should probably be a bit more careful with setup balance, scum was a lot stronger than town :/
Not saying that's what cost us the game, the fucktrain of the first 3 days did that.

EDIT:

dramonic · Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 6:50 am

You're just mad not everyone is willing to put up with your BS.