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Post Post #4725 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:35 am

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In post 4674, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh, and I don't think it really matters where those individuals were. The simple fact is three times in this game individuals made unilateral decisions to force lynches, and every one of those occasions resulted in a town death, with no chance of a scum death happening instead.

pedit: The ability existed to be a trap for bad mechanical players FA(in the early game), and a benefit/counter to scum absurdity in the late game. You were supposed to save it until late game to get optimal benefit out of it, not go off using it every day.
Refresh my memory, Cerb: was it you that was in the Hunters' PT trying to organize a double lynch on House & some other Townie?
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Post Post #4726 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:22 am

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Please can we stop this? We aren't going to agree and it's just going to upset good people by carrying on.
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Post Post #4727 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:35 am

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ok
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Post Post #4728 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:35 am

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I will still answer whatever is @me though

still never mention this game out of this game to me ever
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Post Post #4729 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:13 am

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In post 4679, Cerberus v666 wrote:It was clearly intended as a hard counter to any single overpowered slot
@MOD VARSOON DID YOU MAKE MY ROLE WITH THIS IN MIND ? THAT IT SHOULD BE STRICKLY NOT USED EARLY AND ONLY BE USED TO COUNTER A POTENTIAL SPEED LYNCHER WITH TOO MUCH VOTING POWER?
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Post Post #4730 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:21 am

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In post 4690, Shadow_step wrote:FA, the quicker you realise that A50 vigged you because the town bloc didn't trust your judgement in the future, and it wasn't entirely because I was conf town, the better.
Weeeeell half the town block were the scum and they actaully backed us xD


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I actually want to discuss this, why do you feel optimal town play is to accept the gladiate ?

You say they do not know the alignment of the person doing it, I will ask again. Which scum in their right mind ASKS you if you want to die or reveal themselves in a gladiate with you. Trapping themselves as potential lynch target?
I fully belieave(maybe biased cause I knew me) that it was a 100% obvious that this was coming from another town slot. If you are town, you make the choice of forcing a lynch between two townies instead of dying for the sake of town.

NOW, I can see someone choosing to gladiate if they feel their role is really important to fight for, I can see it being the case if you are somone globally townread and this came out of the blue(Meaning it is really fishy coming from town) But if you realise you are a low hanging fruit, a slot scumread by a lot of people and you just got this message, the chance of it being from scum are as close to 0 as you can get in this game without mod info.
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Post Post #4731 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:32 am

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I mean.

Personally, I blame myself for the town loss.
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Post Post #4732 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:34 am

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But that's just me. Yaknow.

I also put a bit of blame on Ranger and KC. They were also largely responsible for the town loss.
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Post Post #4733 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:36 am

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Yea you guys played 100% against town wincon what the hell?
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Post Post #4734 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:41 am

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my bad, my bad.
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Post Post #4735 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:03 am

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Yaknow I multi quoted something a while ago but now it's not here and I don't remember what I wanted to talk about

So instead I'm gonna go ahead and say hey varsoon I just started watching cowboy bebop (I am a sham and haven't seen a surprising amount of staple/introductory anime) and pls no spoil anything but know that I've totally gathered that it's just an alternate dimension of space dandy. Dandy is to bebop as bioshock infinite is to bioshock. There's always a lighthouse. There's always a dandy.
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Post Post #4736 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:12 am

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I have a designed cowboy bebop and its in last review steps!

I want to run that after my current game so there is that.

you won't play with me. as a mod I'm just sitting back there watching others fight so you will be totally safe from my slat and anger.
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Post Post #4737 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:13 am

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large theme not bastard not role madness

won't out anything else about it , but its themed not normal
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Post Post #4738 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:13 am

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large theme not bastard not role madness

won't out anything else about it , but its themed not normal
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Post Post #4739 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:14 am

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damn double posting
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Post Post #4740 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:54 am

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In post 4513, Titus wrote:
In post 4504, Varsoon wrote:
In post 4502, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4494, Varsoon wrote:21 Shenandoah, Kenner, Louisiana 70065
Send me all your nuts (and pizza)
If this is real I may actually buy you pizza someday. Is there a domino's or something nearby?
It's real and yes please dominos is tasty.
Dude, redact your address. Internet privacy yo.
I'm fine with you all knowing my address. If anyone online wanted to find it hard enough, they could. It's okay.
In post 4726, Randomnamechange wrote:Please can we stop this? We aren't going to agree and it's just going to upset good people by carrying on.
This, 100%
In post 4729, Shiro wrote:
In post 4679, Cerberus v666 wrote:It was clearly intended as a hard counter to any single overpowered slot
@MOD VARSOON DID YOU MAKE MY ROLE WITH THIS IN MIND ? THAT IT SHOULD BE STRICKLY NOT USED EARLY AND ONLY BE USED TO COUNTER A POTENTIAL SPEED LYNCHER WITH TOO MUCH VOTING POWER?
I created your role to have a lot of power and to be able to make its own judgment calls.
I wanted to reflect the way the character proceeded about their own thoughts on hunters.
You're someone who is powerful and capable of acting on that power.
Yes, it is one way to keep any single player from getting too much voting power.
In the game, Brador kills Hunters who try to discover the secret of the Hunt.
In the same way, Brador in this game is meant to kill Hunters and Scum alike--any player who they perceive as getting too close to dominating the outcome of the game.

A security measure. Anti-town? Yes. But powerful and so much so it probably shouldn't be considered a scum role so easily.
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Post Post #4741 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:56 am

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Thank you.
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Post Post #4742 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:58 am

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In post 4741, Shiro wrote:Thank you.
Thank you? He said the role was anti-town. Nobody said it was scum. *shrug *
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Post Post #4743 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:58 am

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Town had myriad ways of killing scum. Off the top of my head?
House's role could vig kill with enough beasthood
Sensei's role could vig kill any night and since it was a Nightmare Event, it would have a very low chance of being blocked/stopped unless the target had a Blood Vial.
R&L's role could vig kill that would become a gladiate if the kill was denied.
Almost50 could vig kill any flavor-claim, and on failure for the kill to resolve (due to hitting a fake-claim), it would out the player as lying about their flavor.

This was all meant to be curtailed and mitigated by the Blood Vial system and Ranger's role.
Unfortunately, Ranger really didn't make much use of his role and the Blood Vials didn't see a ton of use, either.
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Post Post #4744 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:59 am

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In post 4736, Frozen Angel wrote:I have a designed cowboy bebop and its in last review steps!

I want to run that after my current game so there is that.

you won't play with me. as a mod I'm just sitting back there watching others fight so you will be totally safe from my slat and anger.
No more gladiate roles Varsoon, they dont work :/
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Post Post #4745 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:00 am

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I agree.
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Post Post #4746 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:01 am

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gladiators are bad news bears
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Post Post #4747 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:02 am

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Gladiates own.

This game did have a lot of town utility, relatively. 3/4 scum roles were centered around being Neighborizers which have to invite themselves at some point and the other one was just a BP. Unfortunately pretty much all of town's killing abilities got aimed at other town while scum amassed a huge amount of power.
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Post Post #4748 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:03 am

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I recently had a role in marathon which I thought was a cool way of using a gladiator. In addition to gladiating my target, it also made them hated.
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Post Post #4749 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:05 am

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Get back inside this hydra Nahdia! You can't have your own opinions.

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