Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

[iraonavp]

Convincing argument. Have you been following along, or are you going to ask for time to read?

Doesn't seem believable...

[Untrod Tripod]

It was sarcasm, you clod

[iraonavp]

I know, what I meant is that your questioning of TellTaleHeart doesn't make sense because the slot is already confirmed as town-aligned.

[iraonavp]

kraska77 is scum-aligned because of an unbelievable stance on the validity of any bodyguard claims, inside the neighborhood.

[Maestro]

Ira, shut the fuck up.

[Untrod Tripod]

I know, what I meant is that your questioning of TellTaleHeart doesn't make sense because the slot is already confirmed as town-aligned.

How's the slot confirmed, again?

[TellTaleHeart]

Maestro

is nearly an open-and-shut case. There's already his protown voting record. The double vote also makes him extremely likely town. A scum double voter would have nasty interactions with the mafia bookie. If you're already going to reward scum for being able to predict the lynch, it just seems unfair to give them that much more influence in the lynch that grows as the game goes on, town numbers dwindle, and the lynch threshold decays. It's an interaction I would have to think FakeGod would avoid.

Untrod Tripod

has a protown voting record and if he bussed Froot Loop, he did a hell of a job. In particular, I have a hard time believing he would bus Froot Loop out of nowhere on Day 3 when it looked like smooth sailing to an Ankamius lynch. The responses of Froot Loop to UT's prodding don't look like scum-scum interactions either. For example

Froot Loop's post that I quoted looked extremely awkward to me and extremely scummy because it looks like he's just trying to appear active and asking "probing" questions without actually contributing anything to the game. It looked hella scummy to me. So I voted him.

I'm a she.

There's not much I can do if that's your response to my tone. I asked Hark about the votes because I would normally think that moving your vote off someone implies that your read of them had changed but I asked for clarification because Hark said his RVS style is to prod different people. I've said more about Cakez and CKD.

I feel like this is a playstyle thing as well. You said I haven't contributed to the game but I've commented on and questioned things which I think have been relevant. If something's not clear about what I've said, or

you

think I should be saying it in a different way, that's not AI.

@CKD - I've looked at the post now. I'm not really sure what you're getting at. You voted for him for saying that he's townreading people?

This feels like a genuine parrying attempt, as opposed to the typical scum response which is either to make a snippy, OMGUS-y jab or to lie back and think of

England

the scumteam.

As someone else pointed out earlier in a VCA,

Ankamius

was a scum-heavy wagon. There's that. There's his protown voting record, and neither time looked like a bus to me. Also, I just never mentally got on the "Ankamius is scum" train that a lot of people seemed to be on. I've seen him as scum before in StrangerCoug's large theme game a while back and there it wasn't that difficult to see he was bullshitting his reads. I'm not getting that this time.

I hope ira doesn't take this the wrong way, but

iraonavp

is a read that uses a good dose of "too bad to be scum." What self-respecting scum would think "I think it'll be a

swell

idea to claim to bodyguard someone under threat of a vig kill!"? (By the way, his story is backed up by Post 825 where he specifically instruct Seraphim to kill kraska.)

Okay, but is that what you think,not just something you can think? Are you bodyguard?

Seraphim might kill you, you know...

Still, how DGB claimed is not scum-aligned because there is not much time left in the day.

I can chat with seraphim about that in the pt at night

so? There were only 2 votes on her

Okay, make sure to shoot kraska, Seraphim...

There was also that 1v1 argument with MuffinMan and how Froot Loop and Katsuki behaved in response. Two townies immediately wrote the initial interaction off as town v town, CKD and SirCakez in Post 621 and Post 622. But Froot Loop and Katsuki immediately jumped to call ira scum shortly thereafter. That makes me think the argument really was town v town, they would've been given plausible deniability and an opportunity to put ira in a good place but they trashed it.

PeregrineV (Harkonnen97)

is the slot I think I'm probably going furthest out on a limb for, but I still think it's probably town. Hark initially struck me as a gut town read and that was mildly reinforced by his replace out after Muffin called him bad. I also think Froot Loop's push on him was opportunistic and aiming for a mislynch:

VOTE: PeregrineV

The series of posts about CKD doesn't sit well with me. I think there's conflicting motivations between the original response and the vote.

I don't know why Seraphim reacted like that to Vedith's claim. I can't see a reason to think particularly one way or the other about it.

That she walked back later, which is generally not something you do when you're bussing:

About Peregrine, I was talking about 282, 283 and 284. I read it as PV stating CKD's role and then voting for Cakez for doing that. But I misunderstood. I also didn't connect then that PV replaced Hark, who I thought was town. So I'm town-reading that slot at the moment.

[TellTaleHeart]

Meanwhile, there's nothing from kraska or any previous occupants of the slot that makes me think it's town. Interactions with Katsuki/Froot Loop are nearly nonexistent. kraska only mentioned Katsuki

after

he was hammered. Marquis and Wingback's posting and pushes were pretty weak. I could easily see Marquis setting up a pick-and-roll on UT during his initial Froot Loop push coming out of the RVS. Both of Wingback's pushes were on town.

Nothing really looks good for this slot.

[TellTaleHeart]

Maestro

to clarify you can't investigate and kill on the same night, correct?

[Untrod Tripod]

vote kraska

Let's do it

[TellTaleHeart]

[TellTaleHeart]

We stand on the precipice of victory.
Who will have the courage to make the final hammer of justice?

[Ankamius]

Aaaaand TTH completely redeemed that slot.

I'm comfortable lynching that slot now; the only other slots I don't have a strong townread on at this point are Maestro and Iraonavp.

VOTE: Kraska

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 5.1

kraska77 [4] - iraonavp, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod, Ankamius [LYNCH]

Not Voting [3]

- kraska77, PeregrineV, Maestro

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-09-22 15:00:00)

[FakeGod]

kraska77 , who was

Card Guard

,

Three of Hearts

, and

Mafia

Bodyguard/Flavor Cop

, has been

lynched

in

Day 5

.

Town

Win Condition has been met. Endgame incoming.

[FakeGod]

`

The infiltration attempt has been foiled. The traitorous Card Guards were flushed out and shredded, and the evil Alice was captured.

"Nice try, but you really never had a chance," taunted the victorious Queen of Hearts. "The sudden emergence of the Castle of Hearts on the Map? The traitor Cards? I orchestrated the whole attempt."

"And it worked, it seems." nodded Leica, "You managed to root out an evil Alice!"

"That is not the only goal I had in mind," the Queen replied as she snapped her fingers. The Card Guards immediately surrounded and held down the other two astounded Alices.

"I intend to set up a new story, and I really can't have all you Alices running amok and risk ruining it," the Queen curtsied, "Ladies, it was fun while it lasted, but now..."

With a maniacal glee, the Queen yelled at top of her lungs, "Off with her head! Off with-"

The Queen ruled supreme.

Ending

~

Off With Their Heads!. . .

The Bulge, grapes, Blitzkrieg, Seraphim, Vedith, DrippingGoofball, curiouskarmadog, SirCakez, TellTaleHeart, Untrod Tripod, iraonavp, PeregrineV, Ankamius, and last but not least, Maestro, aligned with Town, wins the game!

[FakeGod]

Links will go here.

Mod PT - includes full Role PMs and night actions
Dead PT
Forgotten Corner - Neighborhood PT

Scum PT will not be released.

[DrippingGoofball]

woohoooooooooooooo

[FakeGod]

THIS is how you replace in.

Well done, TTH.

[Ankamius]

I can't really say I'm proud of this win. It really felt like town won more because the scumteam didn't do a very good job of looking town more than town actually playing well.

[Ankamius]

That replace in by TTH was beautiful, though.

[Ankamius]

TNE and Maestro really threw me off with how they played their role before Maestro claimed; if either had paid more attention to Katsuki before the lynch had gone through, I most likely would have gotten to the same page as everyone else. The fact that Maestro/TNE's play looked contradictory to what Maestro claimed as well as the way Muffin was trying to direct things around it made me really leery about them being a scumteam.

[Untrod Tripod]

Shrug, a win is a win. We lynched the scum.

There were some salty motherfuckers in the deadthread and some salty motherfuckers in the game, but I can't really fault them for it. Sorry I tried to lynch you, Ank.

[Untrod Tripod]

Great job by TTH. Coming in with fresh eyes and being super confident about your reads was awesome.

[TellTaleHeart]

Thanks guys. That was fun while it lasted. ^_^