Kingmaker the third (OVER!)

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A WORLD OF /IN

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Aloha.

Tell me why I shouldn't be voting Sotty.

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Dry-Fit might be scum.

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CDB, why may Dryfit be scum?

The snipey comment at TierShift struck me as easier than talking seriously about Kingmaker choices, although I must admit the "come on!" tickled me. It might just be an innocent thing.

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Desperado, what do you think of Sotty and Dry-Fit?

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Hey guys, we've got time. Let's not rush this vote.

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It might be Dry-Fit and TierShift together, actually.

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Hey guys, we've got time. Let's not rush this vote.

why?

Because this is an interesting phase of the game and I want to make the scum talk during it for as long as we can get away with

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CDB is good for king too, didn't realize I wouldn't be able to change votes.

CDB why am I scummy?

Out of everyone here, you look the most like someone looking to rush quietly out of the kingmaker voting process. You not realising that your vote was final is a point in your favour there, though.

I don't have many townreads yet, which concerns me.

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VOTE: Desperado

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VOTE: Desperado

Why Desperado?

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Desperado is town because he's being straightforward and his thoughts on the votes were similar to my own. I don't want Sotty or CDB as kingmaker either. CDB more paranoia.

I might have missed this earlier, but why not Sotty?

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Reasonably content with any of the three leading candidates tbh

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Is Wisdom about?

And the mind-meld begins.

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Sotty should be kingmaker imo

What do you think of the competing wagons?

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I feel reasonably confident that Dry-fit is scum.

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Sotty should be kingmaker imo

What do you think of the competing wagons?

Happy with either tbh... but I'd prefer sotty

How do you feel about how they happened, who's on them, etc?

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Gonna ask scumchat for a replacement

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Tier is town.

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Tier is town.

Excellent.

Dry-fit Dark for scum?

Need a little more time on DLA but that's a reasonable hypothesis

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I'm gonna be pro-town and lurk so the replacement has less to catch up on.

lol

Yep. Dry-fit, we're obviously going to continue talking. You not joining in while everyone else talks is not pro-town, it just makes you harder to read.

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dry-fit for day 1 execution. Waddaja say?

Yes.

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Majority decides in the vote, right? Then the replacement doesn't really decide.

Wisdom's slot is the only remaining vote, so whichever it picks between the top two gets it. Voting for anyone else would be unhelpful to the extent of scumminess

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Hello, Wisdom. Whichever way you vote is fine.

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But we've got 4 on each wagon, and need 6 to decide, or am I wrong?

Just 'whoever gets most votes' not 'straight majority needed'

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I look forward to Wisdom writing more words.

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Why is Titus auto-scumread by everyone (inclusing me in this game) in every game that I have ever seen

I think you're exaggerating. He's pretty town here.

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CDB is town but wrong. PF probably town too. I may have been wrong to vote Desp unfortunately.

Do you even know why you voted me in the first place?

You certainly didn't fill us in.

I do. I didn't like Sotty getting votes so fast. And I didn't like that Sotty voted CDB. Those reasons don't really hold up but those things were significant to my mind at the time.

So, are you saying you thought Sotty and I were buddies, and that she was trying to set me up as the backlash wagon to her early votes?

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Guy > Dry Fit > Pokerface > Titus is my kill order Sotty.

Guyett is a good scumread. I'm null on Pokerface at the moment, though, and Titus seems town.

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ALL HAIL QUEEN SOTTY!

Execution order by :03

wait I thought desp won the maker vote?

Yes, and Desp made Sotty Queen.

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Hey Wisdom

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So, are you saying you thought Sotty and I were buddies, and that she was trying to set me up as the backlash wagon to her early votes?

I'm not entirely sure what I was thinking there. You gotta think quick in marathon and kingmaker voting is an unusual kind of thing.

I get that it's frenetic but you knew enough about your thinking to mention Sotty's vote on me as relevant - that's the part I don't get.

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Wisdom Wisdom Wisdom Wisdom Wisdom

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Dry-fit & Pokerface are not interacting like buddies at all btw

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Guy/Dry/Pokerface is a scum team you can take to the bank and cash

3 scum in 11p?

Unless I read the roles wrong we have 3 assassins and an SK

We have a *possible* 3 kinds of assasin role and a *possible* one SK. Not all guaranteed to be included

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Wisdom is a good shout for D1 execution

Whoa, slow down there baby

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DLA is not very good at recognising what scumhunting looks like but is town

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Guyett or Dry-fit should be the kill. Dry-fit is probably the most informative, IMO.

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DLA is not very good at recognising what scumhunting looks like but is town

I apologize for my rushed analysis.

Don't, it makes you look town. But you are overthinking on me

so much

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Has Desp townslipped here? I think so.

hey you know what would be a good thing to broadcast

NOT THIS

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Definitely want Dry-fit to be dead today.

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Getting serious scumvibes from Jason now.

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what if DF flips town?
Poker or wisdom tomorrow imo

Bridge, cross, come to it

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Getting serious scumvibes from Jason now.

Only if Guy is town.

My Jason read is totally independent of anyone else atm

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Getting serious scumvibes from Jason now.

mmhmm

Been having them but I doubt he's scum twice in a row.

Congratulations, you're straight in at No.1 in the

WORST SENTENCE OF 2014

competition.

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Yeesh. That is exactly what I would expect scum to claim though I don't mind so much if you switch to Guyett, Sotty, should you have cold feet

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2 shot doc isn't in the role list?

It is

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Actually, we're 11, aren't we? Doc claim is slightly less of an obvious scum play than with 10

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Grammar goes out the window, CDB when I type fast. Or are you calling my post bullshit CDB? I can prove I was having those doubts.

I'm saying it's ridiculous to say "he seems scummy but he was scum last time so he's less likely to be scum this time"

his odds of being scum are the same as all of us

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Shit, an SK!

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Wisdom, did you get a chance to reread?

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Go back and read the roles list please CDB.

I am not incorrect. We have an SK.

Also, regarding your last statement. It is mathematically accurate that Jason is no less likely to be scum here but people are not RNG.

Yes, but the RNG that Zach undoubtedly used because Zach is a good mod IS, in fact, an RNG.

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Whats RNG?

Random number generator

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Your surprise at their being an SK prompted that request. I wasn't denying we had one.

I wasn't surprised so much as annoyed.

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well there goes all that i had reads on. 2 scum and 1 sk seems likly now

whats the case on jason?

CDB, kill this please. Sooner rather than later.

Nah, if PF is scum - and I'm not convinced that he is - I want him to have as much time as he needs to repair all those lost reads.

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was there anyone actually against the guy wagon?

You had a night to find this out

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Jason, I'm probably going to kill you. Talk me out of it.

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Fit may well have scum slipped

I don't scum slip my man. Well except for this one time that I did.

Guyett and Titus I think are good kills.

I'm wondering why Dry-Fit would be killed. This reference of Titus is all I found really, but I'm guessing that Titus wouldn't be in on the kill.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Dry-Fit was killed for being a doctor

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I'm actually for a DarkLight kill today. Poats a lot without any real meaning. I get cases are not really used in marathon, but his calling scum posts seem very labored and not even a reason behind them. Not even 1 line as to why

We are never, ever, ever killing DLA.

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didnt the sk kill dryfit?
why didnt scum kill him?

Dryfit was assassinated.

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DarkLight night spec is horrible thouugh

DLA is the towniest motherfucker in this game. Drop it. Drop it. Drop it.

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Claim time, Jason.

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this ninjaing is hilarious I've said the same as someone else at least 7 times now.

town is DLA CDB and desp perhaps sotty

LOLO9LOLLOL

We caught 2 scum last time via this exact method... naming people dead or not in game :

That was not why they were scum

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Claim time, Jason.

Hero

oh you mother-

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So Desp, tomorrow we elect someone scummy as King and have them kill Jason. If they kill anyone else we instacute them D4.

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and yes i can fucking hear you about pokerface, christ

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Pokerface, claim time

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I mean by lining up tomorrows lynches before todays go ahead

HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW

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Execute: Pokerface

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I should have just called bullshit and executed Jason. So annoyed at myself.

Also scum probably tried to kill the SK there

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Hang on, Tiershift. Desp, why Tiershift?

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Yeah, sorry, tbh this is just a straight case of Tiershift killing Jason today

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Guy/Dry/Pokerface is a scum team you can take to the bank and cash

3 scum in 11p?

Unless I read the roles wrong we have 3 assassins and an SK

i think desp SK-slipped here

I don't think that's any more likely than Desp reading the role list and getting the wrong impression. Why would the SK know there were three assassins?

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wait I'm not claiming only if you will want to execute me tomorrow

You'll kill scum today, you shouldn't claim

Jason is obviously trolling scum now

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Ok I'm a fucking hero

That's why I didn't like jason's claim even though zach said multiple versions of each role were possible

Why did you ... anyway it doesn't matter, Jason is lying through his teeth, I regret every second for which he continues to be alive after I spared him yesterday

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Is a new kingmaker necessary with only 4 alive? We can't exactly no-execute

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Obviously everyone massclaim. Wisdom first

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Is a new kingmaker necessary with only 4 alive? We can't exactly no-execute

You can vote for one if you want, but it's not.

Cool.

VOTE: CDB

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DLA, claim time

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anyone CC impeacher?

let's have this go in order, mmkay?

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sure why do you get to make the order

Because I'm the one who decides who dies

I'm also pretty damn town but that really is secondary here

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OK, I'm also a peasant. So here is me explicitly not executing Wisdom which means that you can stop being paranoid about my towniness

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It breaks my heart that it's probably DLA but it's probably DLA

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I mean, I do believe you hero claim, I think, and the things I thought made DLA town were more not-groupscum. SK works well enough.

Let's not beat around the bush, we'd get here anyway:

Execute: DarkLightA

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Hurrah! Finally a town win!

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Hurrah! Finally a town win!

Look at me letting you win because I thought you'd defend me, and this is what you do?

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DLA why didn't you CC impeacher

Idk... I guess that may have been a wise thing to do in hindsight

Yeah, hard to see coming but, after the night scene, you really needed to do it, although Wisdom's earlier suspicion of Desp probably still would have had me go the same way in the end.

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I am getting the itch to run a large theme kingmaker after my micro game runs.

That will probably be a couple of months from now.

I've really fallen for the format these last few days! I didn't use to like Kingmakers at all. Might have to play should one come to pass.

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CDB was townreading DLA hard until the end.

It was the individualism of his play that struck me - I hadn't been expecting an SK at the time.

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This was actually why I originally targeted you. I looked through the ISOs of the usual suspects, and couldn't find anything firm. I figured I'd have a run at you as no one else had. Little did I know that it would backfire so hard with you totally patronizing me, lol

Haha! Sorry if it came off condescending. I think the kitten avatar may have put me in that frame of mind.

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Partly the reasoning behind changing my avatar a few years back. It certainly contrasts avatars like Titus'.

Well that's certainly broken the spell, you conniving so-and-so.