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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:00 am

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In post 13, ZONEACE wrote:Some people deserve to have their graves danced upon. Margaret Thatcher is one of those people.

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:05 am

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In post 20, ToastyToast wrote:I think (at least in America) people know so little about Thatcher, and only know her as a very tough female politician. My friends from Northern Ireland and scottland realize this and get pissed when people start to praise her.


I see her as the UK doppleganger to Reagan.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:09 am

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I feel like that's a low blow to Thatcher. Reagan was inept.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:15 am

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In post 27, Majiffy wrote:I feel like that's a low blow to Thatcher. Reagan was inept.


They had similar political ideals.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:24 am

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... So she's a conservative.

Let me go break out the noisemakers on that astute observation.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:43 am

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In post 29, Majiffy wrote:... So she's a conservative.

Let me go break out the noisemakers on that astute observation.


I said similar ideals to Reagan, not that she was a conservative, but yes they both were.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:47 am

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In post 29, Majiffy wrote:... So she's a conservative.

Indeed, which is part of the reason the US (which leans right compared to Europe) misses her.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:49 am

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In post 31, Mr. Flay wrote:
In post 29, Majiffy wrote:... So she's a conservative.

Indeed, which is part of the reason the US (which leans right compared to Europe) misses her.


I still remember Reagan's demise. The media acted like a god had just perished.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:51 am

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In post 30, Zachrulez wrote:I said similar ideals to Reagan, not that she was a conservative, but yes they both were.

Pray tell what other ideals you were referring to, if not political ones.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:54 am

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I guess unsurprisingly I knew quite a few people at Oxford who looked back at her fondly.

But, I mean, it's not a perfect comparison to her and modern day conservatives (whether little c republicans or big C tories) by any means. First, although she can certainly be criticized for any number of policies, the world coming into her premiership was vastly different from now. Lots of things that the left barely ever advocate for now were the accepted status quo then. So, the simple fact is that hoping to return for Thatcher or Reagan is kind of a false dream... they won most of those battles. Continuing to fight for "deregulation" now is vastly different than then, when the airlines (for example) were highly regulated driving prices way up.

Second, there are other departures:

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The evidence is there. The damage is being done. What do we, the international community, do about it? … It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. We have to look forward not backward, and we shall only succeed in dealing with the problems through a vast international, co-operative effort. …

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I can't imagine a modern conservative Republican making that.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:08 am

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In post 33, Majiffy wrote:
In post 30, Zachrulez wrote:I said similar ideals to Reagan, not that she was a conservative, but yes they both were.

Pray tell what other ideals you were referring to, if not political ones.


Obviously the comparisons would be political? I'm not sure what you want from me here.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:14 am

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In post 35, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 33, Majiffy wrote:
In post 30, Zachrulez wrote:I said similar ideals to Reagan, not that she was a conservative, but yes they both were.

Pray tell what other ideals you were referring to, if not political ones.

Obviously the comparisons would be political? I'm not sure what you want from me here.

I'm not sure what your statement was intending to be if not for a direct comparison over
conservative political ideals
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:58 am

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In post 36, Majiffy wrote:
In post 35, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 33, Majiffy wrote:
In post 30, Zachrulez wrote:I said similar ideals to Reagan, not that she was a conservative, but yes they both were.

Pray tell what other ideals you were referring to, if not political ones.

Obviously the comparisons would be political? I'm not sure what you want from me here.

I'm not sure what your statement was intending to be if not for a direct comparison over
conservative political ideals
.



Dude, why are you being such a dick?

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:51 am

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In post 32, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 31, Mr. Flay wrote:
In post 29, Majiffy wrote:... So she's a conservative.

Indeed, which is part of the reason the US (which leans right compared to Europe) misses her.


I still remember Reagan's demise. The media acted like a god had just perished.
no he was a Saint not a god
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:19 pm

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this news gave me happy feelings

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:45 pm

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In post 40, Umbrage wrote:this news gave me happy feelings

if that makes a bad person I don't want to be a good one



You aren't a bad person.

You're less than a person.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:48 pm

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:58 pm

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