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Post Post #153 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:49 am

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In post 150, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm sure this is true, but it's not evil corperations trying to save a buck by screwing women over.

Well, watch something like Mad Men. Look at the prototypical office which has male executives and female secretaries. Work out the average salaries.

A big problem is that culturally, girls aren't likely to embrace or be interested in STEM topics because they don't want to be socially ostracized by their peers. Or they buy into BS stereotypes like "girls aren't good at math" and don't even try.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:36 pm

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In post 192, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Florida's governors

No.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:42 pm

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In post 336, Brandi wrote:I dunno what my country is afraid of happening if we cut military spending~ Like would it make the news in other countries "US cuts military spending by 5%" and then every other country will be like "AHAHhwehehehhehehehHASHAHA now is our chance to finally KILL AMErICA"

A lot of military equipment, munition, vehicle, and other manufacturing plants are on us soil and provide us jobs. Plus all the private industries are contracted by the us military. So a cut in military spending is usually directly tied to people losing jobs in districts of entrenched party members.

It's out of control and nobody has a popular solution.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:06 am

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Kasich bumped Christie for 10th place in the RNC polls (and therefore gets invited to the main debate).
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Post Post #350 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:22 pm

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In post 349, Brandi wrote:I think it would be really cool if instead of throwing out food at grocery stores and restaurants it could be regularly given away. Even at some places employee's aren't allowed to have them unless they pay for it. Wish I knew why it had to be that way.

Liability.

If someone gets sick from tainted food or if they had an allergy to some element of the food, then they have a viable lawsuit.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:09 pm

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Not saying anything more than a very small minority is tainted. But if it is, it's a massive financial loss if the sick person sues.
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Post Post #359 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:46 pm

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Does the fact that Trump have a huge lead and is trusted to "fix" the economy mean that the rest of the GOP field is horrible or the GOP base are morons?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:49 pm

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Also, this is awesome..

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Post Post #363 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:01 pm

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In post 361, quadz08 wrote:those are both broken

SHould be fixed now
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Post Post #422 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:49 pm

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In post 408, SleepyKrew wrote:...then you're a fucking moron.

Could we discuss politics without name-calling?
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Post Post #428 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:41 pm

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In post 426, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 422, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 408, SleepyKrew wrote:...then you're a fucking moron.

Could we discuss politics without name-calling?

You can't discuss politics with someone that's aggressively ignorant.

Then don't discuss them. Go yell in a cave instead.

The most ineffectual liberal is the one that resorts to insults.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:51 pm

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In post 548, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I wouldn't have a problem at 35% for the rich, but not 50%. People deserve to keep some of their income.

Are you in favor of rolling back the tax rate back to 1950 levels?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:18 pm

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In post 554, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 551, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 548, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I wouldn't have a problem at 35% for the rich, but not 50%. People deserve to keep some of their income.

Are you in favor of rolling back the tax rate back to 1950 levels?


It would depend on what those are.

A little over 90%. It's important to understand that after a war (WWII), income tax on the rich watypically raised to high levels to pay off all debts incurred. The rate was dropped to about 70% during the early 60s when everything was pretty copacetic. When Reagan took office, he slashed it down to about 29% under the theory that the savings would be passed down to the poor (they weren't). They went back up to 40% under Clinton, then dropped to 35% under Walker Bush and raised back up to 40% under Obama. Statistically, the Obama tax increase was pretty insignificant.

Most of our debt is due to the 15 year (and ongoing) war in Afghanistan and Iraq (and on-going War on Terror). Raising the tax of the poor to the levels of the tax on the rich (the "flat tax") only results in the poor being fleeced and driven into further poverty.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 562, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I would say 35% is about right.

Finish this sentence: "I don't feel like we should pay for our recent and on-going wars because...."
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Post Post #566 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:45 pm

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In post 565, MonkeyMan576 wrote:It's based on faulty information anyway and both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden are dead.

I didn't ask if you personally agreed with the war.

The war happened (and is still happening) regardless of your personal feelings. Money was borrowed to pay for that war.

The US can't just ignore the financial obligations because of buyer's remorse. You can't just propose a flat tax and force the poor to pay for that war.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #15) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:59 pm

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Why do you always equate taxing with punishment? Are you being punished by being protected by the best military force on the planet? Is your safe drinking water, clean air, and untainted foods some sort of curse that you suffer from? Is the idea that somewhere in your country children are getting a free education and not being crippled by polio giving you night terrors?

You get a lot back from your taxes. You've stated that you're not well-off. So you're actually telling us that you would prefer those more rich to pay less so that you could have less free public services. Or worse that the government becomes so broke that they have to privatize services. Meaning that you'd have to start paying for stuff you already get for free. Why?

The American rich got and stayed rich because this country gave them the freedom, the opportunity, and the safety to do so. It is their duty to pay back into the system so that others can also succeed and make the country greater as a whole.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:18 am

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THis feels like we're veering off into a nature vs nurture debate.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:57 am

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In post 602, Untrod Tripod wrote:it's a pretty insidious (and racially charged) problem that people make the assertion that athletes coast on their physical gifts and don't put in the work to become great

And then there is John Daly.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:45 pm

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In post 617, sthar8 wrote:
In post 613, Psyche wrote:what is katsuki's argument???

genetics are unfair so fuck poor people, i think.

They've got poor genes anyways.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:00 am

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In post 621, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I think the point is that it shouldn't be up to government to "even the playing field" for the rich and the poor. Having an unfairly high progressive tax is basically saying the rich shouldn't be rewarded for success. It's saying that there aren't a lot of rich people that are willingly generous with their money. This just isn't the case, in America you are rewarded for success, not punished. There is a balance that can be struck between taking care of the poor and allowing people to keep their hard earned money.

Can I ask you.. Why do your fervently fight for the interests of the rich and not for your own self-interest?
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Post Post #711 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:47 am

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In post 707, Psyche wrote:he'll need to stop saying crazy/stupid stuff

Like what?
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Post Post #712 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:49 am

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Biden doesn't really excite me. He's of the same pro-corporate mold that Clinton is. Democrats don't really have a wide platform to choose from (or it's completely ignored because of the GOP circus).
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Post Post #740 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:14 pm

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In post 728, Rhinox wrote:
In post 720, Untrod Tripod wrote:College sports are not an "extracurricular" for most actual students. they're just a thing you CAN spectate and are forced to spend hundreds of dollars on every semester.

they're an exclusive club for a very tiny group of students that does nothing to further the actual mission of a university

Again, there's a lot more to "college sports" than the big D1 programs.

D2 and D3 level sports are a lot more inclusive, and generally don't cost other students anything to spectate. Many of the students playing sports at these levels are also achieving academic honors. Lots of the bigger schools have student led club teams and compete against other schools' club teams.

The big D1 programs are also a draw for admissions, which I'm guessing isn't taken into account when deciding if a program is operating in the red. I'd bet that 30 full athletic scholarships to run a successful D1 program gets more students enrolled than giving the equivalent in academic scholarships. And if you hypothetically discontinue a big program like a D1 football program because its operating in the red, and you lose a ton of admissions because students no longer want to go there, that's even less money coming in to spend on the actual mission of a university. And considering a lot of these schools are state schools,
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admissions likely means losing state money as well. And like, the ohio state marching band likely wouldn't exist in its current state if the ohio state football team didn't exist in its current state.

Your point is invalid, bruh. :lol:

Seriously though, do colleges make up those operating costs (and beyond) in alumni contributions? I always thought that keeping boosters and donors happy was the number one reason that athletic programs are given such prominence. More so than admissions.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:09 am

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In post 742, Espeonage wrote:Serious question, how bad could Kanye be as president?

Depends entirely on how well he chooses his advisers and how well he listens to them.

Left on his own devices he does stuff like saying "George W. Bush does not care about black people" during a very public charity fundraiser.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #24) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:43 am

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In post 746, T S O wrote:Are we actually debating the merits of Kanye in the White House?

Compare and contrast the strengths, weaknesses, and popularity of Kanye West vs Donald Trump as presidential candidates.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #26) » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 827, Telo wrote:If the candidates wives are a liability why is no one mentioning that Trump has had at least 3 of them and 2 weren't even American.

If I was Rebublican I'd vote for a dude with a Brown wife before I voted for one with 3 babymammas.

No, no. Republicans love heterosexual marriages. They really don't care how many someone has had.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #27) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:05 am

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I turned over to the GOP debates for a second after work. I heard Jeb deliver the line of "My brother kept us safe when he was in office" to thunderous applause and I just turned that right off.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:23 am

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Though I thought your link said "rich-people-in-praise-of-Donald-Trump" and thought that was the joke.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #29) » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:11 pm

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http://gawker.com/ben-carson-wouldnt-me ... 1735027922

Then Fox’s Brian Kilmeade asked if, like Obama, [Ben] Carson would would still travel to visit victims’ families despite some residents protests of grandstanding, to which Carson replied all too casually:

"Probably not. I mean, I would probably have so many things on my agenda that I would go to the next one."
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Post Post #874 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:55 am

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In post 873, Cephrir wrote:I don't think they feel bad about themselves for thinking those things in the first place though.

Yet they'll look around real quick before they say them.
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