2016 US Presidential Election Thread

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he means legal immigrant mexican-american I am pretty sure

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just like racism isn't generally evil people trying to murder everyone who's not white

that doesn't mean it's not a problem that needs fixing

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Depends on if she thinks she needs to attract moderates or pull the harder liberals to the polls, I think

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they're known as that now, but the republican party will do their best to paint her as a CRAZEH LIBERUL because that's how you win elections 98% of the time nowadays

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you realize that those are not the only two options, right

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my issue with articles discussing that is that she was a palin supporter like 8 years ago while she was in high school

that's a

long time

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She could go way out on a limb and pick up Wendy Davis but that would seems to me like it would be stupid

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he's an old white guy, zor, obviously

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I think the whole server issue has really hurt her credibility/trustworthiness in the general public's eyes.

it hurt her integrity / intelligence in my eyes, that's for sure, and I'm about as liberal as they come

as an IT professional in state government, doing that kind of shit is basic levels of "no shit, sherlock"

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"lots of people do it" doesn't make it acceptable, and I don't know if "careless with classified material" is a good thing to have in a President

I mean, I don't think I'll be voting for any of the Republican candidates still on the table over Hillary if she wins the Dem nomination, but she's certainly not my ideal candidate

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no worries, sammarino, I'll be voting

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we are clearly coming at this from different perspective - I can be fired with the snap of a fingers for deleting important emails or storing them on a non-authorized device, and that's the case for pretty much every government employee. I'm not enthused about electing someone who willfully broke that rule with

literally every email she sent or received

as one of the 5 most important people in the federal government

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One could also argue that an increase in transparency is an overall good.

it's not like she did it in the name of transparency, or that it even indirectly led to greater transparency - this argument holds no bearing

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wait you mean you don't agree 100% with a major party?

i am utterly shocked by this development - shocked, I tell you

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what do you want to drop then? it's fine and dandy to say "we should spend less" (in fact, I'm pretty sure that statement has near-unanimous agreement across the political spectrum) - the issue is that no one agrees what not to spend money on.

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what do you want to drop then? it's fine and dandy to say "we should spend less" (in fact, I'm pretty sure that statement has near-unanimous agreement across the political spectrum) - the issue is that no one agrees what not to spend money on.

Big Bird.

lol

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What does that mean in practice?

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I dunno, I just don't understand how someone can say "if you aren't making money, then you don't deserve healthcare/food/shelter"

like, those are basic needs in life and really shouldn't be subject to the whims of the economy if at all possible (and it should be possible in the wealthiest nation on earth, come on now)

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those are both broken

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they are both the same picture now

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breaking down in tears in what way

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it is almost as though sometimes people having differing definitions and opinions of what 'racism' is (same with similar -isms)

ta-da, welcome to a fair chunk of modern political debate

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It's not, he's rather more conservative than the average MS user

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Oh i think college sports especally football are a stupid waste of money.

this is why I love that my alma mater's sports funding is entirely self-sufficient. No tuition or government money goes into funding sports stuff. (Possible exception of scholarships)

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they keep boosters and donors happy and those boosters and donors contribute directly back to the athletic program, for the most part

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the apples analogy isn't a particularly good one in this scenario >_> apples don't invest very particularly well

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also it takes much longer than a week

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by 'spotty' you mean 'he identifies more strongly with gun culture than most liberals'

which, yes, is probably why he's not angling on the spotlight there.