Brexit

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I'm in tears. I don't know how to deal with this. All of the rights and privileges that my generation should have had are being burned down, one by one, by those who benefited from them.

I don't really want to leave behind the people and cultural connections that I have to the UK, but it feels untenable. I want to live somewhere inclusive with socialised healthcare. Now I guess I have to find somewhere new - probably in Europe, but who's to say, with the extra instability that will now come to the whole of the EU, that anywhere to which I move stays that way? And I don't even know what career I would take there, because I don't want this one any more. Buying a house feels like such a distant dream.

Honestly, right now, it's impossible to know what it is I'm supposed to be looking forward to.

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CDB is there anywhere I can read more about this? I'm horribly uninformed and I want to understand what is happening

It's kind of hard for me to concentrate right now and I can't find the link to an article I read that explained this better than I'm about to, but one of the major reasons why this has happened is because there is a huge, gaping divide between the north and south of England (really, between London and not-London), where years of hardship and government cuts have been spun by said governments and right-wing media to blame immigration and the EU instead. There's such a pervasive desire to stick it to the political elite, just to feel like their voices are being heard, and that ill feeling has spiraled into this. It's turkeys voting for Christmas, because they're just handing more power to people who will only make things worse for them, but we've served so much of the country so poorly.

I have no idea how we can recover from it.

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I'm not psyched about Corbyn's performance during the run-up to the referendum but I think it's very hard to tell how much of that is down to him and how much is down to media largely biased against him not giving him much of a platform. Not that that will change anything, of course.

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Making first, tentative investigations into jobs on the continent. But still kind of want to wait to see if anyone actually pushes the button on Article 50.

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It's the principle of the thing as much as anything. Britain is turning into something really quite horrible on a lot of fronts, and the symbology of this decision is very possibly the final straw for me.

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All together now...

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All I ask is for, in either major party, just one person who is both a) competent and b) not actually evil

but there isn't one lol ffs why

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I would be pleased that Boris Johnson will not be our next Prime Minister if any of the alternatives were preferable. The two most likely candidates are Theresa May (who consistently advocates for repealing and leaving various human-rights conventions and is in favour of even more snooping on everybody in the name of security, is generally just flat-out evil) and Michael Gove (a ludicrous, egomaniacal shitstain who carried out a vigorous campaign of fuckery upon an already weary education system, and is the No.1 preference of Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre so fuck you very much to anyone who'd have him be

my

leader). It'd be like opting to be stabbed in the crotch rather than stabbed in the eye, but I'd have taken Johnson over either of those. The other candidates are no better, simply less likely to win.

There's also the general principle of the thing, which is that BORIS TORE THE ARSE OUT OF THIS COUNTRY IN A WAY THAT WAS DESIGNED PURELY TO MAKE HIM PRIME MINISTER and now he doesn't want to be the name attached to pulling the trigger on the worst foreign policy decision this country has ever made so basically IT WAS ALL FOR FUCKING NOTHING

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FUCK HIM INTO A SUPERNOVA AAAAAAAARGGGHGHGGGH

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Labour have even less hope of getting elected any time soon by being a slightly less mean version of the Tories (a position that will only continue to mean being dragged further and further rightwards), which was demonstrably shown to not be a thing at the last general election, than they do under Corbyn. I'm not sure they have a real hope either way. The party is an utter mess; that's only been brought into greater focus by the release of the Chilcot report and the attempts to rewrite history from the Blairites. (also, fuck Tony Blair.)

Probably the only way that a liberal-minded party could get into No.10 now is with a genuine progressive alliance between the leftist (or nominally leftist) parties, I think. And that seems like a long way from happening when the parliamentary Labour party are relentlessly imploding.

I've been put off Corbyn to some extent by his lukewarm (at best) support for the Remain campaign and the frankly weird spike in antisemitism that's cropped up around Labour since his election, about which I probably don't know enough but it still scares me. Having taken money from Iranian & Russian state TV is not a great look for a man of his stated convictions, either. But he's done better than much of the media would have us believe and I trust him to do actual good in power more than the alternatives.

What I want is to be voting Green in a proportionally represented election. When our next general comes (and bloody hell it had better be soon, except it won't because Darth Theresa is being anointed), I have no idea what I'll feel obliged to do.

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We may disagree on extent but my larger point was that I don't think that Labour are in a position to win a general election under Corbyn much more than you do. But we know that people are violently rejecting so much about politics with which the Blairite wing is too closely wrapped up. There's nothing that the PLP can offer by way of inspiration, just blandness and what's seen as equal complicity in the status quo.

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congrats on going-to-have another woman prime minister, I guess

And yet we'll still be waiting for a prime minister who is both a) female and b) recognisably human

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BORIS JOHNSON AS FOREIGN SECRETARY

IS THIS A JOKE

IS THIS ACTUALLY TROLLING