Accountant's Utopia Philosophy

[Killthestory]

accountant i enjoy reading your posts because they give me a different perspective on your moral objectiveness because i think very differently from you. i do like where you come from, though, and i enjoy reading what the opposite of me thinks.

keep up the good work, lad.

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i think ur immature for arguing for a person who's clearly set in their own ways over the internet when it's better to agree that you'll never be able to come to agree on something in a friendly manner.

but what do i know

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accountant doesnt outlaw other perspectives but his ultimate faith towards what he believes implies that other perspectives are bad.

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if you're complaining about him always talking about it, this is LITERALLY a thread named after him about his philosophy. if you don't care to hear, don't click on the thread.

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Perfection does not exist, accountant.

It does when you're a child who does not understand anything

low blow

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account geniune question is war bad?

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what if your country drafts you for a bad cause?

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what if your country drafts you for a bad cause?

That is bad.

So do you not know what to do?

I'm not trying to demean with you with that question either.

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you're the one putting the gun to their head

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metaphorically

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i guess that's one outlook but i don't think i'd ever be able to fight for the wrong cause knowing about it.

like, if they aren't telling me we're doing b ad things but i know they are anyway, kind of like the nazi's, i'd rather desert than shoot innocent people.

if it's a good thing tho or something i believe is a good thing (maybe im ignorant thats it a bad thing) then i'd gladly fight for my country.

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the muzzle of my rifle isn't sentient nor does it have it's own inner morals.

also, what makes your morals absolute and not my own inner morals? i feel that shooting people is bad regardless of if its for the state, but you seem to disagree.

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oh of course sorry.

but uh i dont like the concept of being a tool. i like to be human and make mistakes and be not perfect whatsoever

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it adds the life to life

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i enjoy being nervous. i enjoy being scared, angry, hurt, or even depressed. i may not have the room to say such things as my life has been going rather well at this point, but I do think without one side, you cannot have the other. A perfect life of living in your world sounds absolutely lame, no offense. i'd become vry sad or even rebel against your statehood because i enjoy exploring life and figuring out how everything works. i like competition, and i like to be happy by challenging myself and feeling new emotions everyday.

your society focuses too much on making your nation the best overall and not the best for your people. your people would never follow a regime such as that because much as we say we're all part of a machine, we're not. we're not tools or anything like that. a single person can do great things while another can do terrible things. people must be allowed to express themselves and be exposed to their full potential.

in the book anthem by ayn rand who was a pure genius, (i recommend reading the book, great read) she went across the concept of what you're trying to achieve with a utopia and why people would be unhappy.

but i'm not trying to force my opinions on you, either. i think you'll do great things, but you have to improve yourself and your views before you can accomplish anything. your determination is very admirable regardless.

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sesq i think your argument would be slightly more viable if u responded in a less demeaning way and choose to actively seek as to why accountant thinks that way and not try to force your opinion on him.

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so basically you're forcing your opinions on him since you don't like his current one.

i don't know what woke means, but you sound silly.

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i enjoy being nervous. i enjoy being scared, angry, hurt, or even depressed. i may not have the room to say such things as my life has been going rather well at this point, but I do think without one side, you cannot have the other. A perfect life of living in your world sounds absolutely lame, no offense. i'd become vry sad or even rebel against your statehood because i enjoy exploring life and figuring out how everything works. i like competition, and i like to be happy by challenging myself and feeling new emotions everyday.

your society focuses too much on making your nation the best overall and not the best for your people. your people would never follow a regime such as that because much as we say we're all part of a machine, we're not. we're not tools or anything like that. a single person can do great things while another can do terrible things. people must be allowed to express themselves and be exposed to their full potential.

in the book anthem by ayn rand who was a pure genius, (i recommend reading the book, great read) she went across the concept of what you're trying to achieve with a utopia and why people would be unhappy.

but i'm not trying to force my opinions on you, either. i think you'll do great things, but you have to improve yourself and your views before you can accomplish anything. your determination is very admirable regardless.

I know you enjoy all these things. I think that's partially due to the fact that humans are complex, messy and multifaceted. Such things have no place in my society. When you have been taught the correct path, you will no longer have paradoxical beliefs like "I enjoy being depressed".

It is definitely possible to have happiness without sadness. I haven't felt real sadness for months, and I'm perfectly happy.

You will be allowed to explore life, figure out stuff, compete, conflict and challenge yourself under my regime. Do not worry.

People will be allowed to express themselves, but the "self" will be simple, so the expressions are simple and correct.

you can't just say someone's correct though, accountant. the best pieces of art were mistakes, and the greatest accomplishments were done during times of great strife for some. is someone being depressed worth it if they create something new for the world?

accountant i've never met someone who hasn't felt sadness in months, so i don't know how i'm supposed to validate your claim apart from the internet.

again with the correctness.

also yes humans should have free will because that is what defines us as human.

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I mean, you could theoretically disobey your rightful commanding officer and choose not to shoot people, but you'd be a coward, a deserter and a disobedient person who has no sense of order, authority or hiearchy. Or you could just follow orders and know that no moral weight falls on you. Your choice.

i'd keep my dignity and morals and desert.

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free will also leads to goodness and there is no productivity or success without it.

you have free will, do you not? that is what drives your determination. that is why you seek to do great things. if you turn humans into mindless zombies, we lose productivity and do not be successful. we're also not very happy.

@accountants second post, if i had a better situation that lead to the correct action id take it, but there is no correct action there seeing as it's two bad things. desert your country or do very bad things. personally, i can never shoot someone as a 'tool' so i would desert.

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actually you have plenty of choice to do what you will. there is no single path.

i think we think fundamentally different, and i don't think i can hope to convince you to my view.

@accountant, deserting doesn't kill people, so i'd rate it just regular bad. if it's very bad and just bad, i pick bad.

[Killthestory]

@accountant, deserting doesn't kill people, so i'd rate it just regular bad. if it's very bad and just bad, i pick bad.

Disobeying authority, acting without concern for your rank and place in society, insubordination and cowardice. All of these things bundled into one is way more than just regular bad.

then i guess i'm a bad person

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accountant look at my signature and c if u agree

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it's always good to have different perspectives on the same situation

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accountant look at my signature and c if u agree

I disagree. Ruling can be difficult and inconvenient. The people do not necessarily live to serve. The people live to promote the correct path, and one of its tenets is a proper respect for authority.

ok good

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accountant what if everyone were like you and utopias existed but there wasn't enough resources for everyone and a world war erupts.

that wld be rather bad hm?

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does your utopia promise to have problems

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then your utopia is a false illusion

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you're taking the life out of life

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that single post is your complete and utter inherent problem

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lmao blinzer finally got to you accountant. you shouldnt have directed him to this thread. you know what happens when blinzer goes on a forum

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uh oh the circle jerks coming back.

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accountants location is so fitting it almost feels like i have stepped into wonderland

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uh oh deleter you're straying into dangerous territory

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accountant's premise is in fact correct you fool

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re-education is key in the society we live in today

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he's talking spiritually clearly